Golden age

>Maybe berserk not having an end was the best after all
I thought this was common knowledge the series had been dogshit for years with no signs of improving

Nah, Casca's dream was the peak of the manga.

DId you miss the part where the LITERAL FIRST PAGE OF THE MANGA is Guts fucking and murdering a fucking xenomorph and the entire first arc is about elves and demons and black magic and hunting the interdimensional evil god Griffith?

I know, I was exaggerating

Have they continued where he left off?

Yes, but chronologically

I can tell you arr an edgy teenager that only got into Berserk because it was le edgy mango woth titties and violence woooah

The entire post-eclipse story is how Guts becomes an edgelord after what the traumatic experiences he goes throught and slowly starts opening up to other people again after realising he cannot take care of casca on her own

You are a swine, and Miura's writing was clearly lost on you.

I've only read the first chapter of Berserk and I already know it's shit

you need to go back to containment site made for handicapped mongoloids like you and then kill yourself, Isidro, Shierke, Puck becoming a pun, all shit

sex with schierke...

>nooo why did guts grow as a character and didn't remain an eternal brooding edgelord like literally me nooooooo

Embarassing

>didn't even mention guts as the problem in my post
truly you have brainrot, hang yourself you waste of space

Dark swordsman arc and post conviction are both choke full of dark fantasy elements all the way down. The most notorious difference between both is that in one Guts is a brooding edgelord and in the other arc he grows as character. I known perfectly what you are crying because that's the same all the edgy teenagers that read berserk complain about, that is Guts is no longer an edgmaster that gets really angry and does edgy one-liners and is always alone because he is so cool

Come back when you can legally post on Yea Forums. Reported for underage

This.
I liked some of the more recent chapters though like the one FINALLY remembering the god hand again though too bad we will never really know what's up with them because 10 years of this series were wasted on boat adventures and elf shit.
I can't believe I even miss old Griffith. I actually liked him back in the old days. After his revival he was a pure garbage non-character.

I have never complained about the lack of edginess but clearly you're mentally retarded and have the reading comprehension of a baboon, everyone and their mother can see that the more it got fantasy the more it got standardized and neutered, it's not about not being as edgy, it's not about Guts not being fucking depressed, it's about becoming a blander piece of shit that lacked the great storytelling and characters that the first half did.
You're mentally deficient, you're a pretentious prick like everyone that comes out from that shithole, the site not that cheap whore of your mother, you don't understand shit and you need to throw yourself off the highest place near and rid everyone of your foulness, you fucking failed abortion.

>entire post is just impotent screeching

Edgy teenager alright. Reported again for underage

It only went to shit when they got on the boat and not a moment before. Guts vs Serpico rematch was great. Guts + Serpico vs Ganisha was great.

Counterpoint: Nobody cares about how Guts "slowly opens up again" it's the most common story trope ever invented. It's not interesting to read in and of itself and Miura was clearly not soul-attuned to it like he was for the ANGRY parts of the manga.

People who hate the RPG party don't understand Berserk and are just edgy teenagers.

I can tell that you need to go back.

>no! the characters should remain static, and guts should be always be a brooding edgelord like me, fuck you stepdad!

>tells other to become old enough to post as he doesn't understand the basic rules of reporting
I think you might be underage yourself my man

>gets explained why he is mentally handicapped
>acts mentally handicapped
this one is one me

It surely gets more interesting to watch someone advance his character instead of
>man so angry he slashes harder, hard enough to slay a god
Writing-wise, it would have been a major asspull for Guts to not get the iconic armor, and still somehow beat Femto/Griffith

>It only went to shit when they got on the boat and not a moment before.
Completely false everything involving the trolls and Ganisha is a massive waste of time for readers and the author.
We know Miura didn't plan ahead and there are many times in the story where it shows and became a problem that could have easily prevented

Why do nu-Berserk defenders always act like this? Can't you make normal posts with reasoned arguments instead of blatantly projecting and assuming what the other party thinks?

Berserk was a monument to storytelling and comic-making during the first half of its run, and then Miura started running out of gas. I would even say Conviction itself is already showing the problems, even though it's the "edgiest" arc of them all. Regardless this impressive run of form in Berserk happened to coincide, or rather necessarily coincided with Guts in his "trauma" phase, because that's clearly what Miura was telling from his gut. Once the story got past that point, and he needed to advance plot and character, he stopped tapping into that fire and therefore naturally leaned back on narrative tropes and commonplaces. This just makes the manga worse, regardless of which specific tone it wants to pick. It also happens to be that Miura is not the most meticulous writer so this mode did him a disservice in the way of introducing characters that went nowhere (e.g. Isidro), dragging out boring and predictable plotlines that added nothing (e.g. Griffith conquering randos) and generally distracting himself with stupid shit that wasn't particularly good to read (e.g. the gradual switching into perma-gag mode for characters like the elves and most pages being filled with irrelevant joke panels)

That arc was shit, it's like 10 volumes of just getting to the city and the boat with nothing going on other than fighting goblins and demons.
The city part is probably the most infuriating part considering they get to the boat thanks to farnesse and inmediately go back rescue her because tardkasa burned the permit, and thanks to that we have to eat like 5 volumes of killing mobs and an indian doing magic shit.
90% of the content after conviction is aimeless filler and even conviction in some moments already was, the story barely started getting on track in the last chapters after like 2 decades.

Yeah this. Most of my favorite fantasies aren't even dark it's not about the absence of darkness but the loss of identity. Late Berserk was, save for a few scenes, a generic JRPG fantasy that tried to win the fanbase over by shoving in more and more magical women, lolis, chibi shit and funny meme characters. Look at what they did to basically Gut's whole team. There was a time when every single one of them felt like a human with an own agenda and conflict, now they are just there for the jokes or to the nanny.
Also, almost all of the few good scenes of the last years were good because they were referencing plot points from when the story was still good.

As another user put it old Berserk was about the horror that is the human cruelty and how it affects the psyche of even the strongest people, modern Berserk is about fighting fantasy monsters with magic.

>gets more interesting to watch someone advance his character
No? Why would an "advancing character" be inherently more interesting than a proper depiction of a particular, call it static, moment in the psyche? Not to mention, Guts as a character changed a lot during the good Berserk era. Dark Swordsman is completely different from early Golden Age who progresses a lot until late Golden Age, then tragically falls, and once again when we meet him back for Lost Children he is already in a different state of mind compared to the original Dark Swordsman arc. The entire "edgy phase" leading up to Conviction is a changing journey; Guts realizing he should stick together with Casca forever is only the end of that journey, not some random binary switch out of nowhere that signals "NOW we will progress the character!" that is complete nonsense.

I would argue edgy Berserk has far more character development than post-Conviction Berserk, which wastes pages on wistful stares of nothingness and overlong action scenes.

>it became Isekai trash when it stopped being edgy
It's the other way around you retard

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Millenium Falcon is still the best arc.

How? It has no significance.

You're fucking retarded.

He had Beast of Darkness inside him and Behelit, it is was interesting to see where it might have gone from there.

Explain its significance.

>this blatant zero effort bait thread got 41 replies

>native isekai
please for the love of christ take your own life tonight

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>Nobody cares about how Guts "slowly opens up again"
I disagree. Guts slowly opening up was done right in the Golden Age arc. It was a genuinely great, emotional story with top tier character development and everybody that didn't know how it would end yet was happy about Guts' development and the comradeship between the members of band of the Falcon. Everybody that hates the later parts loves the Golden Age arc and loves the scenes about friendship, trust and bantering.
It's not about hurr healing bad, it's that the writing is shit. It's not a story about men finding solace and love in a cruel world anymore, it's about blatant pandering shit and girly magic that solvse all problems with sparkles and elfes.

kek

He already had those two back during Lost Children. We spent 20 years of random running around recruiting party members fighting trolls and all that particular subplot had to say for itself was "I guess we can ride the coattails of the new shiny magical armor powerup" without actually changing anything about the inherent dynamic.

Based Miura

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Yes, but:
-The "opening up" part of Golden Age isn't slow. It takes around 5~7 volumes at most, between the first meeting with Griffith and the start of the Eclipse run.
-The fact that Golden Age was framed as a backstory with a foregone conclusion meant that we as readers were reading it with a different mental state, since we knew how Guts had ended up after all that.

It's very different from the JRPG party era "opening up" which is mostly an excuse for the meandering story and lackluster development.

>DUDE IT HAS GOOD ART AT THE END!!!! LOOK AT GANISHKA DUDE!!! BRO A TREEE???? THAT'S AMAZING YOOOOO
That's it pretty much for these simpletons.

He also had nothing to lose, besides Casca maybe, and even she was a shell of her former self. I think if the story continued Guts would eventually end up in a situation similar to Griffith.

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>besides Casca maybe
Which, precisely for being the only thing he had left, was the most important thing. The struggle between abandoning all to chase Griffith and living for the sake of those who need you was already fully present by Lost Children. We don't need all the paraphernalia to bring that theme to light, in fact all it does is obfuscate it.

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To be fair, it does have good art. The final Ganishka fight is one of the only forgivable parts of the Griffith side of the story post-Conviction, and Ganishka was done well enough as a character and foil bringing to light what Griffith/Femto was about in his reincarnated quest to conquer.

The problem is it all took so fucking long, was so slow, and 90% of the rest of the Griffith stuff PLUS most of the Guts stuff (you know the main part) was sleep inducing. The giga-ganishka VS Griffith scene is the last thing I would shit on from that arc.

This, but there were a few good moments

I don't agree to this consensus making it moot and void. Good day to you.

You're a piece of shit human being. Go listen to Children of Bodom or some shit.

heres your new black swordsman bros

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He's so tiny, what does he fight? Is this a swordsman for ants?

>Late Berserk was, save for a few scenes, a generic JRPG fantasy
that is the fucking point, speedreader-kun.
Whole point of Fantasia was that as a result of Griffitish and God Hand shenanigans the world was becoming more and more magical again.

This is what pissed me off the most. Not only were these parts dogshit (and I already suppressed the memory of the mob killing and how they got into that) they wasted so much time I am sure this series could have been concluded if Miura didn't fuck around so hard after the conviction arc. Conviction was running how long again? From vol. 14 - 21 or something? The last volume released was vol. 41 I think so literally half of the entire series was the later shit and it progressed the story less than earlier arcs did in a few fucking volumes. It could easily be finished by now if we weren't forced to follow an irrelevant ship journey for a decade and five volumes of random monster killing and all the other useless shit Miura wasted years on.

new chapter when?
too soon or?

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