The 90s isekai had such a better atmosphere than the current copy/paste era isekai.
I don't know what's more astonishing - the fact that it was a an isekai shoujo, the fact that it was made in the first place, or the fact that it was written by a male when most of it radiates "for women" energy. Or maybe, the most important mystery how does Merle get away with everything she's done?
Like, you know what I mean.
What atmosphere? They were just in generic fantasyland where there was never any attempt to establish the world or state of society whatsoever beyond the fact the evil empire is waging war on all the other countries. It's as if nothing in the world exist beyond whatever Van went through. It's an utterly soulless pile of shit.
>It's as if nothing in the world exist beyond whatever Van went through.
That's exactly the issue with most "just get isekai'd to learn lessons and then return home" isekai. Authors are very worried the audience will get too attached to the Otherworld and wonder "why not just stay there?" and so the authors try to paint the Otherworld as transient and momentary rather than an actual place one could move to permanently if they preferred it.
Is that......!!!?
Was this the first huge representation of transwomen in anime? Sure, there were side characters here and there, but Donaldo was like a main character start to finish.
the writing is just as trashy as isekai made today is though
Wasn't Ranma the biggest win in the 90s for mentally ill people?
I think the writing was about on the same level as Neon Genesis Evangelion (but for women instead of men) so I agree it was trashy
A lot of older series used imagery and sound design to invoke a sense of fantasy in a series, as where more modern stuff is instead using references to other works. Not that the older series didn't reference other works but usually they were smaller and more allusions to inspirations, as where the modern stuff tends instead to be using a more direct approach referencing a narrower array of inspirations to tell you what sort of things are in the world.
Hitomi and Van had next to no chemistry.
She paired much better with the other guy. Alan?
The only good isekai back then is 12 Kingdoms
Fushigi Yuugi, Escaflowne and the rest were just as bad current generation isekai
Pic related best girl
Hibari-kun wins the first place podium
t. woman
Yes but thanks to the reclassification of the DSM. Being Trans is no longer a mental illness. Playing Vidya is so that means I can earn neetbucks in America.
Huge if true
So at the end of the day, did Hitomi literally not get anything out of the journey? She didn't even get knocked up? How pointless.
No, just a fag
Probably nostalgia speaking but I love it. It was also one of the very few anime back then with a German dub that was not cringeworthy, the others being Ranma and Cowboy Bebop. Back in the day when it was virtually impossible for a kid to watch anything other than the dub in their country, that was a big deal.
same also best intro, maybe escaflowne is too good for these american plebs
I like when isekai stories make the main character treat the other world as something unreal, insubstantial or just temporary delusions only to slowly grow attached to it and realize it's something worth protecting with real people Thomas Covenant is best isekai
>absolute beautiful ost, if not one of the best there is
>beautifully drawn every shot the same quality as a ghibli movie
>story actually progresses, the characters start "generic" but get much more depth as the story progresses subverting expectations
anyone saying escaflowne is just okay has either newer seen more than a few episodes or straight up shit taste
Yes that's perfectly fine. I was just referring to those stories where treating the Otherworld as fake persisted until the very end, often with one of the final few lines of the story after the MC returned back to his own world being something along the lines of "in the end I wasn't even sure if it all really happened or if it was just a dream". That's usually just a cheap cop-out for so-called "deep writing that leaves things to the reader's imagination" but in reality it was just a way to half-assedly appease both those who want the journey to have been real and those who want it to have been fake.
nobody is saying it's okay they're saying it's bad which it was. it might seem good compared to what airs today but that's not a high bar at all and doesn't do the show any favors. it looked nice but the story was subpar. it was shit even in its era.
>progress
Escaflowne's story and characters only ever get worse, without exception. The biggest subversion of expectations is that people actually liked it.
sure, the only thing that give people even the slightest attention spam is mindless waifubaiting and coomershit
There would be less people shitting on it ITT if the last third of the story wasn't gutted.
Probably.
Maybe, but the first act wasn't very good either.
Ever notice that these yahoos like to make bold claims with cursing and/or ad hominems while never backing their claims with evidence or examples of what they're talking about? Yeah, me too.
Yeah, I do notice that. How do any of the characters gain depth as the story progresses? From what I recall Hitomi entirely stops thinking about much of anything other than getting fucked by Van or Allen towards the end. Much of the agency she displayed before the halfway mark just vanished. Sadly that user wont ever elaborate or attempt to clear up my inability to see the character's growt since he decided to start yelling about "waifubaiting" and "coomershit".
Only nostalgia cucks say this shit good
Ain't got nothing on Mushoku
It's funny how much of Escaflowne was ripped off by Araki for Part 6.
All isekai made before like 2012 or so are better than the modern types. Mainly because those were actually trying to tell a story
I think Escaflowne is great but Hiromi is a shit heroine. Everything about it is great except her
>The 90s isekai had such a better atmosphere than the current copy/paste era isekai.
You're mistaking aesthetic for atmosphere. They're the same uninspired trash but in terms of aesthetic the 90s are way different and had its own identity.
>when the anime is such an early jojo reference that it precedes the jojo it's referencing
>You're mistaking aesthetic for atmosphere.
Can you explain the difference in this context?
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>They're the same uninspired trash
Escaflowne isn't uninspired in any sense.
But Ranma hate being a girl
Ranma is butter to me
>Escaflowne isn't uninspired in any sense.
Okay, list how it's inspired then
I'm listening
How did they get away with this
Just started this and Rayearth.
Old shoujo isekai is the only acceptable form of isekai.
Plus whatever the fuck .hack is.
>balgus balgus balgus balgus
Did Persona stole from this?
yes