>14 Princes, plus Queens and affiliated bodyguards, spies, soldiers, servants and hunters >Three mafia outfits, one of which is just 23 people indiscriminately murdering to gain nen >Spiders >Zodiac >Five passenger tiers with a crew of 200,000+stowaways >All in all at least 50+ new nen users with their own intricate loyalty and motivations + 14 autonomous nen beasts with indecipherable activation requirements
Was it hubris to write an arc so outrageously unwieldy? Or did Togashi purposefully create a contrived setting so hopelessly unmanageable he would have an excuse to abandon it and focus on living the rich NEET lifestyle?
I've been saying this all along. He started winding the series down post-Chimera Ant and the Election Arc was well received (o my genie brother notwithstanding) But the fact that he just decided to jump into a new arc with even more narrative complexity than Chimera Ant which is in itself the introduction to an EVEN LARGER arc which will take place in an entirely new environment was just fucking insane.
I dont think he did it to make an excuse to give up. He could have given up at any point, hell most people would have been fine with it ending after Election Arc if he just wrote a handful of chapters to serve as an epilogue for Kurapika / Leorio's stories. But the man just kept going and going, and now we're going to end on a picture of two soldiers staring at their guns as they turn into snakes. Fucking stupid
Cooper Miller
>(o my genie brother notwithstanding) This is still a massive plot hole imo. Nothing is stopping Killua from just ordering Nanika to undo anything bad that happens to his friends. At the end of this arc he could literally just say "Hey Nanika, restore Kurapika's lifespan and hey bring his entire clan back to life why not lmao".
Owen James
>and hey bring his entire clan back to life why not lmao You'll have to try harder, speedwatcher. There are clear limitations to her power. Nanika can't even heal a fucking bird or a fucking fingernail from a distance. She also wasn't able to cancel Gon's nen contract, only heal him. So not only she's not capable of restoring Kurapika's lifespan as it is a nen contract, but also she can't bring back someone from the dead.
Princes, plus Queens and affiliated bodyguards, spies, soldiers, servants and hunters So far three princes are dead, the queens not named Duazul or Oito are not relevant to anything, and while we do have a lot of named guards. Only about 1-2 for each prince are relevant and that's to say that some princes like Sale-Sale have no relevant personnel unless you subscribe to one theory regarding Silent Majority. >Three mafia outfits, one of which is just 23 people indiscriminately murdering to gain nen Same thing, only a handful of mafia members actually matter and the rest will likely remain cannon fodder even in Morena's cult. >Spiders Here to die >Zodiac So far only Mizaistrom has mattered because his actual job is managing the ship's security. The other zodiacs are either babysitting a guy who doesn't plan to run away until landfall or handling other logistical issues. I doubt anyone else other than dragon zodiac will matter >Five passenger tiers with a crew of 200,000+stowaways Tier 1 is it's own cosmology. Tier's 2-5 are a battleground. Everyone else are just there to die and feed the chaos. >All in all at least 50+ new nen users with their own intricate loyalty and motivations + 14 autonomous nen beasts with indecipherable activation requirements Nen abilities are still simple enough to grasp and we have a far more present narrator to explain them. But the rules of the new abilities are still intuitive enough that posters were accurately guessing even guardian spirit abilities with enough characterization of the princes. Not to mention all but Benjamin's and Woble's have been spoiled to use to some degree.
I think he just let his health convince him to walk away. The volumes of the actual story are solidly paced and well planned out. Nothing leads me to believe he was having an issue with the actual plotting of the story.
Nathaniel Garcia
I think it's the opposite. My guess is he was worried he wasn't gonna get to tell whatever tale he originally had in mind for the Kurapika finale because after Chimera Ant the momentum and the stakes of such a story weren't cutting it. However, at the same time, he had such a big spanning world that as soon as he dipped his toes into something momentous again--created some narrative weight in Kurapika-friendly terms--he discovered a million more things he could explore with his series if he just let it run. However, whatever he had in mind for the Kurapika resolution was likely too final to really let the story continue forward after it was done (especially after he had already functionally closed Gon's arc--he's left with little to do if Kurapika also has been handled).
And so, between the first thing and the second thing, he put himself in an impossible spot: He wanted to tell so many new stories, but he had already started the story that closed the book. So he crammed as much as he could into the one thing, hurried it the fuck up with the plot points and world building, and the whole thing became waaaaay too unwieldy in about a second, like it obviously would.
In other words, he overwrote himself into an unmanageable corner of intermingled plot points and running character threads. But not because he was looking to bail, but because he wasn't.
>which is in itself the introduction to an EVEN LARGER arc which will take place in an entirely new environment was just fucking insane Dark Continent arc is fairly simple and easy to design setting. Politics, and intrigue between so many different factions and individuals is far more daunting of a setting for any writer. Dark Continent in comparison can just be written as any other battle manga with mystery of the month to solve, or villain of the month to defeat, and then end up with a view of what's the power level ceiling as he did with YYK.
Hudson Bell
Retard. Gon can still feel his aura so he got it back. Nanika literally revered him to his pre-Heaven's Arena state.
Joseph Stewart
Tranny shit aside, what if Nanika actually is female? We know Alluka is just a faggot, but maybe the creature inhabiting him is in fact female, and that somehow altered his view of himself.
Jose Evans
im just being honest here, when i read the latest arc after finishing the anime i ignored pretty much all names because of just how many fucking characters that were introduced and 95% of them don't even seem to matter in the slightest... at least so far. if the fucker dies before finishing the manga i'll just think the animes ending was the real end.
David Myers
>Gon can still feel his aura so he got it back No, he literally called his dad because he wasn't able to sense anything.
>You had it when you were with me Are you being retarded on purpose?
Ryan Sanders
That's the likeliest case. Alluka was infested by a Dark Continent entity possessed of a female nature and it warped his self-perception. Killua goes along with the delusion because he knows how closely intertwined they are.
Colton Hill
he never lost his aura you retard, anything that has a pulse has aura. He lost his nen and Nanika didn't restore that so stop whining about nothing.
Mason Campbell
He's back to 'normal' as ging said. Back to how he was in the beginning of the series. He can get it back by unlocking and training it again.
Ethan Brown
Worst part is the last 3-4 chapters where every other page is a character infodumping not only their motivations and loyalties but also their persumed understanding of another character's loyalties/motivations along with what THEIR loyalties/motivations would be if they were in their shoes. Togashi might as well just switch to a visual novel at this point.
Eli Watson
>He can get it back by unlocking and training it again. Both Ging in the english and japanese scripts says otherwise. Gon's fucked for the forseeable future and you need a citation to prove he can get it back just because. Especially since a number of nen users have made similar vows to lose abilities and nen outright as a cost for their powers and none of them circumvent the rules.
Austin Hughes
>reading comprehension Ging never said anything about being fucked. He just said it would be ungrateful to ask for more.
Justin Brooks
Before this arc we only knew Kurapika passed out after Emperor Time and didnt know about the life span thing because Togashi obviously realized he needed more tension so he threw that ticking bomb there. Next time we meet Nanika she'll be sick and Killua will say he is not sure she can grant another wish, or maybe that she can only grant destruction wishes now, or whatever fits the plot.
You can bitch all you want about Togashi making shit up on the fly, but he has never fucked up in creating tension.
Kevin Watson
What a fucking speedreader you are. I bet if I said 'Gyro' you would just stare at me in confusion.
Jaxson Wilson
>Keeping track of all this Literally impossible. Togashi realized that every single event he wrote would cause ripples which affected nearly a hundred other characters. Dude should of just stuck with 'protagonist with LOTS of potential overcomes impossible odds!' that got him through the last five arcs.
>Ging never said anything about being fucked Learn to read. There's a reason I brought up the japanese original script because Ging literally uses a word that states divine punishment in relation to Gon re-learning his nen.
Specifically this part 罰が当たるって and this character jisho.org/word/罰
>Gyro Funny how Togashi just introduced a new type of nen ability that doesn't require the host to know nen to still have powers right? if I wasn't a drooling retard I might suspect something similar mightl come into play beyond the succession war but obviously that's just too far fetched a guess. All I'm saying is that for people to automatically assume Gon just gets his own nen back in the face of other facts is just them looking to complain about anything for a dead series.
He still has it. He can't control it. Hence pre heaven's arena.
Nathan Howard
>posts a whole sentence >highlights the word that's relevant in that sentence >provides translation of that sentence >the rest of the context is still clear given the english TL I don't need to do anything more user. If you think there's more context that proves you right the page is posted above. have at it. Just know I did it years ago and no, Viz is generally decent with HxH but they make mistakes and one of them is having Ging sound less resolute that Gon should not attempt to regain his nen. Combined with literal abilities that stop working when conditions are met, sometimes forever. It's not hard to understand that if Gon is going to regain his nen, the hurdle isn't as simple as a nen baptism and there's the very likely possibility that he just never gets it back in the conventional sense.
Jordan Rogers
>can't give full translation only a portion out of context Ok.
Isaac Watson
Someone finally figured it out. Yes, it'd be a nightmare to keep up with, ESPECIALLY after breaks. Complicated stories are very hard to just "come back to".
Landon Ramirez
Concession Status: [X] Accepted [ ] Not Accepted
Anthony Carter
I'll stick with the real official translation until you can develop a cope that's not cherrypicked sentences.
Then remain an EOP and think the MC can just do something the story doesn't support. If a baptism was so simple why didn't Ging just tell Gon to contact Wing and get it done? Logically, if your translation is ironproof that's the easy answer and there would be no consequences.
Jackson Clark
Because Gon knows that, it's implicit in being 'normal'. Ging doesn't have to tell him. He understands Gon will go get his nen back when he feels ready.
Your cope is weak.
Michael Gomez
not everyone needs a conclusion At this point he can forget half the characters and no one will notice you didn't even mention hisoka, beyond or the king if he keeps waiting he might soon be able to start brand new arc ignoring the boat altogether
Ayden Reyes
Let's be real there is no way someone like Gon would just give up on being a Hunter. He'd find some way to get his nen back even if it killed him
Ryder Butler
>Ging doesn't have to tell him He just tells him in both translations that he shouldn't try and to settle on his current life. Great implicit advice to his son to seek out a baptism when he's good and ready.
Michael Rodriguez
He doesn't need nen to do that.
Dylan Martin
Supposedly Togashi was trying to break a manga record for most named characters in a single arc.
an unsolved plot thread is not a plothole I dont understand how you people don't get the difference. If the story was over and it was never properly given context then fine
David Lewis
Man, Togashi tried and failed to surpass Aida with the insane amount of characters, but he just doesn’t have the skills to pull that off.
Even Oda separates characters sometimes, what an absolute failure of a mangaka.
He changed the rules and looks of the nen beasts mid-arc. I think he was having fun adding new things week-by-week but then realized just how big the boat story became and had to take a break to plan it out.
