Digimon - Apocalymon

WTF Was this guy all about ?
WTF was this even ?

No watch the sub and try to explain it to me.

So basically he shows up out of nowhere after they defeat the 4 dark masters, not foreshadowed or anything, he simply shows up.

Then he talks some bullshit like
>Evolution bad I'm made out of the failed digimon who did not evolve
Question how the fuck is this possible ? In digimon if a digimon dies he reincarnates so how is this fucker even possible ?

Then the show goes full nonsense anime ending.

Top evolved digimon can not even hurt this guy, he destroys the merch that lets the kids evolve their digimon then he kills the kids and digimon.

And then the kids un-kill themselves because they believe in the hart of the cards (or something) and they un-kill their digimon because they believe in the hart of the cards (or something) then they evolve their digimon to the top level without the merch because they believe in the hart of the cards (or something). And the same max level digimon who where trash before VS this guy defeat him because the kids believe in the hart of the cards (or something) then he is dead THE END.

WTF was this even, EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS. Especially where did this fucker come from ?

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>where did this fucker come from
From out of the Digital World's asshole. All other answers are wrong.

Is there a real answer or is this another example of anime simply going insane in the final episodes ?

How often does this happen in anime ?
And is this top anime nonsense right here ?

The kids achieved "top level" so they had to fight something beyond top level which was always going to be an asspull. They essentially just made the Digimon devil, which might have worked if they had set it up, but yeah the lack of foreshadowing on this ruined it. I think it's a problem with the genre, they needed to be proactive with the power-creep management and they just weren't which necessitated ass pullery.

I dunno, the writers really didn't think about it before hand.

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Adventurefags will claim this shit asspull villain made sense then cry about Belial lol

I mean I'm OK with a digimon devil or whatever however the way they win is literally trusting in the harts of the cards it is so contrived.

Also the guy talks crazy, if he was some external force of evil that mutated digimon into their evil forms or something he be interesting.

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Omegamon wasn't a thing back then.

>Adventurefags will claim this shit asspull villain made sense
I'm a Adventurefags and ever since I was a kid the guy deeply confused me. Now that I think about it digimon adventure wa always a parade of new big evil guys.

First it was devimon then a monkey then Myotismon in the human world then they go back and have the 4 dark masters.

That confused me the most was his nonsense talk and the BS way they un-kill themselves and defeat this guy.

Did Bandai and Toei Animation not have a better idea for how to defeat him ?

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>Omegamon wasn't a thing back then.
Ok, I think there ware ways to defeat him that look logical. What are your suggestions ?

I proposed this (I'm stealing from adventure 02) basically the guy can not be defeated. However the kids sacrifice their medallions (and the ability to have bigger level digievolutions) to defeat him.

BONUS :
Make the guy be the big bad who in some harry potter move decided to basically link himself into the medallions meaning that they can not destroy him since the medallions are his Horcruxes or some shit.

The alternative is that the kids need to make a a super strong blast and the only way to do it is by basically changeling so much energy into the medallions that the medallions get destroyed.

What do you think ?

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Adventure really felt like they were pulling new villains out of their asses unrelated to each other
02 might have gone overboard with "man behind the man behind the man" but at least most of the villains were connected

>Adventure really felt like they were pulling new villains out of their asses unrelated to each other
As a kid you really did not notice it.
However Apocalymon and his ideology and fight where so illogical.

> "man behind the man behind the man"
And it was forced as fuck.

> were pulling new villains out of their asses
Do not all digimon series do the same. When was it different ?
Digimon fusion ?

The true Adventure (and Digimon as a franchise) climax was the Vamdemon fight in the real world. The Dark Masters arc after that was just a fever dream.

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>climax was the Vamdemon fight in the real world.
Agree.

However pupetmon and his gun play.

youtube.com/watch?v=j4R8B1uyXPk
Hot.

>Do not all digimon series do the same. When was it different ?
Frontier if you ignore the Royal Knights
They spent 38 episodes defeating the group of villains and Cherubimon who were all introduced early on, Lucemon was mentioned
The other two were asspulled

>The other two were asspulled
Yea this is a thing in digimon.

Either way anyone want to talk about how nonsensical the talk of this Apocalymon guy is ?

"Why do you get the pizza, when I get the crust"

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Why did they change his name in the US ?

Do kids really get a Vam = Vamp = Vampire connection ?

Watch the sub, it does not get better !

>The english dub
Cancer, terminal cancer, the VAs tried to shit on the show 24/7

>Do kids really get a Vam = Vamp = Vampire connection ?
VamDEMON
Demons are scary

>VamDEMON
>Demons are scary
Hold the fucken phone !
I remember there being a digimon named something like D-mon or something like this

digimon.fandom.com/wiki/Daemon

So this IS OK ENGLISH DUB !

Changing Deemon to Daemon is a serious stonks moment

I imagine it was because of Saban. They had some very strict rules regarding what could be allowed. Its why we had the whole "next dimension" thing with early DBZ.

>devil
he was more of a tragic character
which is a shame that they fumbled his chance at living in the light with tri

>Deemon
I can not even google this. Link to wiki page of this Deemon.

>stonks
I do not understand your zoomer meme talk.

Nice bling, would've killed for shit like this when I was a kid

However the guy literally named Deamon is OK ?
Who looks like this :
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youtu.be/QrXvav3Z4OA?t=40

???

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The shape looks cool !

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>However the guy literally named Deamon is OK ?
Yes

God, when I saw it I remembered how much I wanted one I'd probably wear one even now

WTF ?!
WTF localization team ?!

Fuck off, ESL retard.

> How did he evolve if Digimon reincarnate

Apocalymon resides in the Dark Area (he's listed as a "Dark Area Digimon).

Here's an excerpt regarding the Dark Area:

"The Dark Area is a place to which Digimon are ultimately transmitted when their life span finishes or they are defeated in battle, and is guarded and supervised by Anubimon, who constantly surveys the arriving data; if their data is good, it will reset them back to a Digi-Egg, but if they are evil, it imprisons them within the eternal darkness."

Going off of this, presumably Apocalymon is the conglomeration of data from dead Digimon who were also evil and weren't given the chance to reincarnate. Of course, none of this was explained in the anime, so I can't blame anyone here, but for those who genuinely wanted an explanation, there you go.

As for the destined using their inner crest to give powers to their Digimon, yeah it's generic anime bs, but it's a running theme throughout Digimon. The children's growth (particularly if it matches their crest) leads to increased power in their Digimon.

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>God, when I saw it I remembered how much I wanted one
Exactly how the japs who made the anime to sell this merch wanted you to feel.
youtube.com/watch?v=6aliY_rdO9w

> I wanted one I'd probably wear one even now
You can buy one even professionally made out of gold and stuff. Like for real real; real god and stuff.

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Meanwhile this was not okay

Why did Toei think it wad a good idea?

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yeah I saw this complete set for like 65 bucks on e-bay, but if I'm gonna end up buying one I'd rather it'd be real jewelry

Ironically better since at least Negamon/Abbadomon had a goal which was to return everything to void

Toei literally doesn't give a shit.

forgot the pic

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forgot pic and meant that Negamon is better then Apocalymon

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>>Here's an excerpt regarding the Dark Area:
>
>"The Dark Area is a place to which Digimon are ultimately transmitted when their life span finishes or they are defeated in battle, and is guarded and supervised by Anubimon, who constantly surveys the arriving data; if their data is good, it will reset them back to a Digi-Egg, but if they are evil, it imprisons them within the eternal darkness."

Interesting.
1) Where did you get this info from ?
2) How the fuck did Apocalymon get out of the Dark Area ? Did he kill Anubimon or got more powerful or WTF ?!
3) Hold one a second did devimon not reincarnate ? The first devimon of the show as this bat minion of Myotismon ? Or did this not happen ?

Thanks for the explanation, any way to force whatever Apocalymon says in the sub to make any sense in light of this ?

PS:
For a show that literally has Angels and Demons/Devil type digimon it is somewhat out of place to have Anubis as the guardian of their afterlife.

PS 2:
Am I the only one who thinks the name "Dark Area" sounds lame ? Would "the outer darkness" not sound more menacing ?

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>Why did Toei think it wad a good idea?
Because they are japs and hardly have any Muslims.

LOL did they keep that in the English version ?

>yeah I saw this complete set for like 65 bucks on e-bay, but if I'm gonna end up buying one I'd rather it'd be real jewelry
1) Buy it or 3D print one
2) Cast in gold

Or talk to a jeweler.

youtube.com/watch?v=rYNTua5fXxY

I think its just called Magna Explosion in the dub. Even the official subs called it Extreme Crusade.

>Toei literally doesn't give a shit.
LE greedy Asian merchant will sell you everything. Shamelessly.

Buy march round eyes !

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That's why Tamers is better. The only asspull there is the one meant to be a gigantic fuck you to the audience's hearts by screwing over the kids.

>Extreme Crusade.
LOL I post that other western children's show that has characters wanting to be "crusaders" to the sound of real crusading however posting this show is forbidden.

Daily reminder 300 years from now a children's character will use the attack move "extreme holocaust"

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>Why do you get the pizza, when I get the crust
He couldn't accept women being hypergamous, it's totally understandable.

>He couldn't accept women being hypergamous, it's totally understandable.
What ?

>look how deep this show is by ending on a downer
low iq writing

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I like his look.
Form what game is he ?

>he says this while posting one of the worst Digimon seasons that effectively landed a deathblow to the franchise

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I don't remember what was it?

>Tamers
The eternal Tamers poster.

Not him, but it was completely fucking stupid and just Konaka going his mindlessly edge persona taking over (see Texhnolyze for other examples). There was no buildup or any hint that the kids would lose their partners other than a bit of worry from Lee's father.

Not him.
I did not like frontier however its Ok in retrospect. I think the reason why adventure is so loved is because of its large cast of varied personalities.

> that effectively landed a deathblow to the franchise
You are thinking of Fusion / Xerox wars, so much is wrong with that show !

Final enemy of Colon Adventure

XW and Appmon were just raping the corpse at that point. Savers tried, and failed, to revive it.

>Colon Adventure
I be real here I like to play a digimon game however I do nto know where to start and people keep telling me that some of the digimon games are simply fucked, likesid meier's alpha centauri of creature evolution games or simply bizarre or broken AI game play. OR BS like you catching digimon with toy airplanes.

What is a good modern one ?

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