I love her so much precisely because of her flaws. She's such a cute and endearing girl, and the most romantic part of her route.
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Luis Murphy
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Logan Young
I want to marry Sakura!
Nicholas Stewart
First time I get to use this image since 2009!
Colton Cruz
I'd gladly do. Sakura got such a vulgar body. I'd love to lose myself in her plump flesh and enjoy the walking obscenity that is Matou Sakura.
Logan Roberts
whore
Lucas Gomez
Would Sakura be as tragic if she didn't have a raped pussy?
Dominic Ross
The best. I bet she moves like a total pro from all that experience, making her an even better wife at pleasuring her husband.
Andrew Brooks
She was still abandoned by the Tohsaka into the Matou and abused while also having a low self esteem so yeah.
Ethan Harris
>I bet she moves like a total pro from all that experience
Dylan Reed
Sakura is a kinky girl! I love her so much!
David Allen
cuz sirou is sasuke. it just rolls off his tongue naturally
Jacob Anderson
I want to fix Sakura!
Jason Hughes
You really can't.
Asher Bell
DAMAGED GOODS.
Carter Taylor
Still a pretty wife who will love you forever.
Adam Taylor
>Zozz
what?
Dylan Lewis
friendly reminder that Zero and Heaven's Feel make the CANON, and that sticks, that's for ever.
Zachary Gomez
funny how zero and hf are also the peak of the fate franchise
Jordan Edwards
And they're both the best works in the franchise. I want to date and then marry Sakura!
Elijah Perry
She stinks.
Alexander Robinson
>Zero
I don't know if Zero is classified as canon because it was written by Urobuchi Gen.
Justin Fisher
Sakura's vulgar body and scent emanate from her clothes and show up no matter how much she wants to cover it under the guise of a demure woman. I bet Sakura's obscene scent fills up every room she is in and makes everyone around her turn into rutting animals. I want to enjoy Sakura's slutty scent and become one with her!
Lucas Kelly
cute and canon
Daniel Hughes
Fuck she's so perfect! I want to enter an abusive relationship with Sakura! I want her to turn from victim into my abuser!
Kayden Garcia
sakura is obviously a very good choice sine she grew up with shirou andi s the classic childhood friend trope BUT
rin in UBW with shirou is just waaayyyy too funny
Blake Flores
Do-Sakura
Gavin Gutierrez
rhin will never be chosen user, please wake up already
Gavin Baker
Rin is a bro.
Christopher Hill
This except Shiki loves Ciel since she's more similar to Sakura except the roles are reversed Senpai-wise.
Benjamin Perez
worm
slut
not canon
Christian Rivera
t. saberKEK passing as rhinofag
Cooper Gonzalez
I'm an Illyachad. Don't insult me.
Isaiah Morgan
>cute
>endearing
>romantic
Yikes.
Eli Johnson
All objectively.
Leo Campbell
The
>FUCK SABER
timeline is canon
haha yeah
Kayden Collins
best part is that yes it is
Matthew Jackson
I for one do not like Sakura Matou.
Juan Collins
A lot of people don’t user. She appeals to those who have little to no idea how woman are in reality, which is why she is a doormat who practically worships the playe- sorry I meant Shirou for almost “her” entire route.
Chase Jackson
>plebisharts
>people
Asher Gray
Damn, Rin got BTFO.
Samuel Long
>the most romantic part of her route.
user, even within the confines of HF, Rin mogs Sakura in the romance department so hard it's unreal. Nothing illustrates better how much more well-written and well thought out Rin as a character and as a heroine is in comparison to Sakura than the high jump plot point and how that figures into their relationship with Shirou and what it says about them.
Let's start by analyzing the importance of the high jump scene for Rin.
Rin is unique among the three heroines in that she is only one whose romance receives development across all three routes, not just her own. It is only by looking at the VN as a whole that one can truly come to grasp the totality of the nuances and dynamics of Rin and Shirou's relationship. Although the romance receives its teleological end in UBW, it is only by taking into account certain key scenes from Fate and HF that one can, mostly retroactively, completely understand how the two work together.
The key scene which must be contrasted with the high jump confession with Rin comes in Fate, the day after the battle with Berserker where Rin tells Shirou she can't teach him any more magic for the duration of the war and she promptly states than she has no intention of dropping out of the war despite losing Archer. We are treated to a monologue by Shirou where he expresses why he admires and likes Rin:
>I'm stunned.
>…No, I'm not surprised.
>I already knew Tohsaka was this kind of a person.
>She is really firm,
>and amazingly selfish,
>and so fascinatingly brilliant.
>[...]
>In other words, this is it.
>It feels like ages ago, but the Tohsaka Rin that Emiya Shirou admired was a girl like this.
>That's why I'm happy.
>Tohsaka has to be like this.
>After all, I wouldn't know what to believe in if such a stubborn girl decided to give up.
The key takeaway from this scene is that Shirou likes Rin for the same reason that she likes him... (cont)
Adrian Cruz
Go back, tldrhino.
Brayden Nguyen
-- he views her as an unstoppable force of will, never giving up and pushing forward stubbornly, no matter how dire the circumstances may seem or how insurmountable the challenge. Shirou essentially views Rin as the female version of himself.
There is a reason this scene is placed quite early in the VN -- the purpose is to have the revelation about the high jump occur late into HF so that Shirou's view of Rin is recontextualized by the knowledge of how she views herself, namely as someone who isn't alike Shirou at all:
>I've always been like that. I determine whether or not something is possible. If I know it's impossible for me, I quickly give up. I don't try what I can't do, and I never regret it or think I'm powerless because of it.
>I'm cold like that. I'm a terrible person. Kirei called it machine-like instead of cruel."
>But Tohsaka isn't belittling herself.
>She's proud of how she is.
>"But I do sometimes think how pure it'd be to just keep trying without a thought for whether it's possible."
>"…Well, as a child, it's shocking to see someone that's completely the opposite of you, right?
>That's why it was traumatic. That guy who foolishly kept running was…"
>Someone I was happy to know existed.
>Tohsaka murmurs with a dreamy expression.
To fully understand the implications for this and the conflict between Shirou's view of Rin and Rin's view of herself, one must take into account a very interesting line said by Kirei about his protege in UBW as he prepares to turn her into the vessel for the grail:
>"You're right. You never give up until the very last second, Rin.
>At the very same time, you have this wonderful side of you that admits reality.
>Yes. This contradiction is very mellow."
This shows us that there is within Rin a conflict between two different natures -- that between Rin, the amazing strong willed girl who never gives up that Shirou views her as, and Tohsaka the pragmatic magus that she feels she is obligated to be. (cont)
Carter Harris
Yet despite her feeling that she should try to be the latter, she secretly yearns to be the former, which is why she feels so drawn to Shirou, who acts as an inspiration for her. He brings out the idealistic, uncompromising streak in her. He both passively and later as they fall in love actively encourages her to be the best she can be.
Shirou had always admired and idealized Rin. When he meets, he learns that she is different than what he had imagined her to be like. She's clumsy, cranky, snappy -- and most importantly of all, she isn't as strong as she appeared. She has doubts and insecurities. Traumas. She's constantly second guessing herself and belittling her own abilities. Yes despite this, he says:
>"The Tohsaka in front of me is so different from the one at school.
>Even when I put it nicely, she's sour, cranky, unapproachable, and so different that I want to scream.
>Man, it feels almost like a fraud.
>...Yet, still…
>Tohsaka Rin is just how everyone thought she was."
Despite her high school persona being shattered, Shirou continues to idealize Rin. The fact that beneath that facade of a strong willed girl that he had always admired and continues to admire lay a young insecure girl does not dissuade him or impact his view of her -- no he ends up liking her even MORE. The fact that she has so much baggage weighing on her back and is held back by her fears and weaknesses yet STILL manages to be as awe-aspiring as she is makes MORE amazing, not less.
>"But that's what saved me.
>She's softhearted, but a realist, with a strong heart that casts away her own weakness.
>...She bottles her doubts and pain inside of her and moves forward magnificently, enough to dazzle those around her."
And this is what makes the dynamic between the two so fascinating and wonderful, as best exemplified by the confession scene. (cont)
Austin Watson
It's Sakura x Shirou user.
It always was, it always will be.
they are the destined soulmates at the end of the day and the VN is very clear about it.
Oliver Adams
Worms.
Jose Johnson
>the VN is very clear about it
Nasu: Saber is Shirou’s soulmate, Rin is the classmate he admired, and Sakura is someone he felt he needed to protect.
Shame user, I know it’s hard for you, but it is really best you move on.
The FINAL and DEFINITIVE version of the FSN gives you your answer.
You now have my permission to seethe.
Lucas Taylor
>he unironically posted the fanfic
oh user, I....
Ian Williams
>idea created by the author
>written by the author
>fanfic
user. Take a deep breathe. Now release.
Adrian Morris
The theme of UBW after all is "struggling with oneself as an ideal" and the key takeaway is that despite the fact that ideals are inherently unachievable there is still beauty in the struggle to live up to them as closely as one can, knowing you never truly can. It is thus fitting that Shirou loves Rin so much that he yearns to have her live up to the Tohsaka inside his head, the idealized image that he refuses to let go off even after meeting the real her, to push her to overcome her fears, insecurities and traumas and be the amazing beautiful Tohsaka Rin that he knows deep she can be -- and he wants her to be. Shirou can see Rin's internal struggles and her lack of confidence in her own abilities, and decides to help her out. To Shirou, there is no greater joy that HE was able to help TOHSAKA RIN. He wants to always be there for her, to help her get back on her feet when she inevitable slips and stumbles, in order to help her live up to her potential. It's his confidence that Rin will always be able to get up, dust herself off and keep on being the amazing person and woman he fell in love with, that is so beautiful and amazing.
The high jump scene truly reveals why the romance between Rin and Shirou is so amazing as it exposes the reciprocal, mutually supportive relationship wherein Shirou acts as an example and as a source of emotional support for Rin as she overcomes her insecurities, and Rin acts as a fetter to Shirou's excessive altruism and suicidal tendencies while still completely supporting him in his pursuit of his ideal as she fell in love with him precisely because of the unyielding spirit that he prescribes to her but she feels she lacks. It's something that makes the romance so much more deep and layered.
In comparison, the romance with Sakura doesn't even come close to the level of thought and care that was put in the one with Rin. (cont)
Robert Taylor
Are you new to Fate by any chance?
HF is the true and canon route user and we all here know it.
In fact it was a closed deal since day of release back at 2004.
Gavin Harris
Chad Rinbro putting the worms on suicide watch yet again.
Charles Taylor
Based on Sakura's adult charms, I think instead of being a kouhai character she should have been a neighborhood aunt like character who's a junior of Taiga and thus Shirou's teacher as well. Rework her relationship with Rin by stating she's Tokiomi's sister and you've got a solution to the family dynamic problem that crops her. Plus adult Sakura and Rider would make for a deadly combo.
Anthony Bailey
user, I know it’s extremely hard for you, but just relax and read.
Your delusions are yours, and yours alone. You can live by them, but please don’t try and actually think they are real.
As you can see from the answer is very clear.
The DEFINITIVE version of FSN shows this. Third place isn’t bad user, you should take it.
John Davis
BB and Kama are better.
Andrew Davis
arent even good sakuras
Joseph Gonzalez
Wrong sister.
youtube.com
Carson Bell
>canonbros
feels good to be a VNfag connoisseur
Blake Cox
Following up a route where the love interest fell in love with the protagonist because of his persistance and thus chooses to support him in his pursuit of his impossible ideal with one where the heroine loves his for the same reason yet he is forced to give up on the ideal he cherishes so much due to strenuous circumstances and it's partly HER fault... is an amazing idea. There is so much potential for writing a unique and layered nuance there.
Sadly, all of that potential is wasted. Aside from a few scenes, this dynamic is woefully underexplored. Sakura expresses she feels guilty she is forcing Shirou to abandon his ideal after the knife scene and it's partially what drives her to confront Zouken... and that's it. Yup. That's fucking it. Neither of the endings truly explores how Sakura feels about any of that, nor do she and Shirou discuss it at any real length throughout the route. One fucking scene to fulfill that quote and that's fucking it. And why is this the case? Because Nasu didn't put any real thought into the romance. Why does Sakura love Shirou for his persistance? Because Nasu thought it would make for an interesting dynamic in a route where Shirou "ceases" in his persistance and iron will? No -- it's all because Nasu sought to contrive a situation that would make Sakura even more resentful of Rin and cause a confrontation between the two. Sakura loves Shirou for being the naive idealist he is... because that's what Rin loves about him and Nasu needed to have a reason to get Sakura jealous of Rin.
And that I think perfectly exemplifies what's so bad about the romance. It's very half-baked and poorly explored because it ultimately exists as a conduit for the more interesting and well-developed sub-plots of HF, like Shirou's relationship with Illya and Kirei, and the conflict between the Tohsaka sisters. It's the part Nasu clearly gave the least shit about... (cont)
Nolan Lopez
which is why every romantic scene needs to be overblown melodrama with sappy music to tug at your heartstrings -- because Nasu needed to compensate for the rest of the romance being so underdeveloped, shallow and fucking retarded. The gulf in quality between the romance and the rest of HF is so massive that it is honestly quite hilarious. It's honestly embarrassing.
Anyway, I don't actually expect any of the dumb wormfags to properly respond to or address any of this. I just felt like typing it all out so I could have a desuarchive link at the ready whenever someone actually intelligent and intellectually honest came along so we could properly discuss the merits or lack thereof in all the romances and FSN as a whole. Not many of those around these days but typing this shit all out was fun so who cares.
PS: Rin is hot and I want to cum inside of her.
Go back where, user?
Noah Lewis
user, that’s a whole lot of BASED.
Grayson Martin
UBW true ending shirou gets both the dream and the girl