Do you think anime will ever be seen as art? Or just cheap entertainment for neckbeard 35 year old losers and teenagers?

hopefully never, wow
I don't need pretentious asshats in my community

I sure as fuck hope not, it would attract retards like Yea Forums.

lmao retard, Anno was one of these Otaku that is single-handedly responsible for anime being nothing but entertainment for losers and neckbeards

But the best anime are tv anime?

If somebody whom I wanna simp for likes anime, then it's art.
If somebody whom I detest or dislike likes anime, then it's shit trash for losers and teenagers.

I agree for an entirely different reason. When a form of media becomes (((art))) it immediately degenerates into utter dogshit as pretentious egotistical fucks create (((post-modern))) pieces. You can see this in vidya with Druckman and the like. I honestly pray that one day (((art))) no longer exists and people can just go back to making cool stuff that people enjoy rather than putting all their effort into making themselves look smart and important in the warped eyes of journalists and other pretentious fucks.

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>single handedly responsible for the direction anime had taken decades before he had any involvement with it
Sasuga Anno-sama.

>simp
Kill yourself, tourist.

Otaku programming will never be seen as art and it's not intended to be.

do you not know the history of Gainax? Anime only took that direction in the 90s duo to the iconomic bubble crash in Japan, and Gainax went full into Otaku pandering starting Gunbuster... not to mention their studio began as a studio made by Otaku for Otaku with the Daicon animation.

Serious discussions of anime as art never leave TV works out.

user please, your meds.

I didn't know Gainax was the only anime studio and that anno influenced literally every anime director out there. Sasuga Anno-sama.

There's already postmodern anime and manga.

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>Anime only took that direction in the 90s
Lol. Lmao.

The very few exceptions that exist don't break the rule.

It won't be as long as it keeps being used in Japan as publicity for the actual form of art: manga. Anime original movies can be art tho

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you fags are both gay
80s was the Otaku and Lolicon boom
all downhill since then

>one of these Otaku that is single-handedly responsible for anime being nothing but entertainment for losers and neckbeards
That would be Tezuka.

why did you post this ugly ass faggot, faggot.

lol

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The academy, obviously. It's why will smith got one and bruce willis didn't. And why dune didn't get nominated for direction.

I mean at that point in time late 80s there were like only 5 guys worth a damn directing anime

No, the poltard is actually right on the money this time.

How is manga art? It fucking sucks for the most part, I tried reading Gantz recently and the pacing is fucking awful, literally nothing happens issue-to-issue. It just forces home to me that this is an extremely commercialized form of entertainment and the only reason these comics are so horribly paced is because it’s supposed to incentivize gullible Japanese children to buying shonen jump every week.

It is because they are communists, they don't know what art or beauty is and subconsciously seek to destroy it to make everyone as miserable as them.

Spirited away did enough damage, I hope to god the academy never nominates any other anime. Keep their filthy hands away from that.

>I tried reading Gantz
You tried reading garbage, it's understandable you didn't like it.
>it’s supposed to incentivize gullible Japanese children to buying shonen jump every week.
There are hundreds of magazines that aren't shonen jump, and many mangaka self-publish.

It's been art since it's conception, you're a loser.

Non-TV anime is also mostly trash, that's not the point.

you should search harder, there are a shit ton of manga and they are produced by individuals the smaller the magazine is, also ignore mainstream shit that gets popular and focus on niche small works. Not saying that all is worth it, most of it is shit but there are diamonds to be found in there.

It’s escapism/porn for incels, anime will never be art, just like tranime fans will never be women

Try reading something that is not shonen jump or shit made for porn addicts then

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What’s that

Read a good manga like Vagabond, Mushishi or Akagi you twit. Just because you saw an adam sandler movie doesn't mean there aren't any good movies out there

It's actually because art is a really easy way to launder money and game the tax laws, so there's an economic bubble for shitty low-effort art.

Note that after the United States passed laws to close some of those loopholes is when those funny monkey jpegs started to get popular.

I like adam sandler movies

When anno voice acted on something else also rises, the people who were supposed to decide the academy award for animation admitted they haven't even watched it.

Blame: a manga with very few dialogues but gorgeous style and architectures

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Art isn't real. A cool manga is better than a stupid painting, and a cool painting is better than a stupid manga. Everything else is culture-cope.

>It's actually because art is a really easy way to launder money and game the tax laws
Yeah, Gainax did that btw...

Exactly, so anime is art. QED

All media is escapism and you need to go back to your garbage >>Yea Forums

I unironically stay away from Yea Forums cause the humor is worse than here, and that's really saying something.

Yeah, you stay away because those transphobic chuds hurt your little tranime feelings, we know. Now go dilate while watching your moe blob garbage

Those literal garbage cans were in a prestigious art museum. Need I remind you of the famous banana taped to wall.
cnn.com/style/article/banana-artwork-eaten-scli-intl/index.html

This is the future of all mediums that become "art"

>Yea Forums
>Transphobic
Don't they have constant euphoria threads

thankfully Japan still sees anime as nothing but for weirdos and the West is autistic and doesn't support the industry so who cares

Art is pretentious crap. Who the FUCK cares if something is art or not? This is art, as defined by the art community. Do you really want to be associated with those fags?
Fuck art lmao
Vydia and animu aren't art? GOOD

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Was it the same garbage and the same bag every time? What about rot, did the "artist" have to pick non-spoilable garbage so Their creation doesn't get spirited away over time?

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It's mainstream entertainment now, very popular with women in particular. The whole neckbeard meme doesn't really work anymore. As for art, all of it is art.Whether good or bad art depends on the anime.

>I read 1 manga
>manga is bad >:(
cum gargling mongoloid

>thankfully Japan still sees anime as nothing but for weirdos
Nigga, it's the most mainstream entertainment there. The highest grossing movies in Japan by far are anime movies and the most watched shows are also anime.

It is both the same way as 30k year old cave scribbles also count as art.
>but high art
Internet age pretty much put an end to that in favor of mass entertainment and social bubbles. Tryhards will always exist and try to show off through liking or pretending to like what they deem as high art. Only thing they will succeed in is to make fools of themselves doing it as is the case already.

Well I also read Berserk and Vinland Saga and both of these had the same problems as Gantz.