Ascendance of a Bookworm

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If you watch the anime, then before you watch the last episode of season 2, read the epilogue of book 5 (aka Part 2: Volume 2); the anime butchers the scene REALLY badly. To be specific, when this scene occurs, stop watching and start reading. After that you can continue to watch. It is the emotional climax of the first quarter of the series, and it is horrendously bad in the anime.

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Listen to this user. I did and am better off for it. Seriously though, the anime director who did the butchering fucking needs to be fired.

I actually convinced my friend to read the LN due to how bad they butchered it. And he couldnt believe how much they fucked it up after reading it

>establish a world where books are a rarity and only affordable by the rich who have entire libraries at this point (aka the market is mostly saturated)
>somehow there are more than 2-5 people involved in the process of producing the ink supply of a city
???????
>somehow this warrants having their own guild instead of being part of the dye maker guild or something
??????
>blacksmithing exists which implies having knowledge about and access to charcoal
>somehow making ink is a trade secret
??????

>at least 10 people working in the sweatshop, maybe more offscreen
>they only manage to create 80 books with 15 pages and no hard cover in an undisclosed number of weeks, despite having access to a wood plate printing press
??????
>somehow these books get sold at a price cheaper than regular hard-cover parchment-paper books but somehow manage to cover costs of tools, materials, rent, labor, contract fees etc
>somehow the workers still get paid enough to make a living
???????

also
>children are starving in orphanages
>somehow cooking involves thowing away nutrient-rich vegetable broth
>somehow noone has invented "soup"
????????????

this anime is dumb and the author is a hack.
nothing in this fictional world scales even remotely correctly and my immersion is non-existant.

I guess the show is pitched at people who are a -bit- autistic but not -too- autistic, user.

or maybe an IQ above room temperature in Celsius

and by above I mean below

From book 8 to book 17
-----bronze
at least 1 small copper: a sandwich

-----Silver
1 small silver per soldier: travel bonus and information and consultation fee for soldiers guarding on way to hasee monestary, Kindness of the Saint of Ehrentfest
One small silver: 10 of Ferdinand's favorite cookie flavor
3 large silvers: Ferdinand concert programs
5 large silvers: Ferdinand illustration
5 large silver per month for one of Myne's chefs
5-8 large silvers : Ferdinand concert tickets
5 large silvers: Karuta set in childrens room sale
3 large silvers: black and white playing card set in childrens room sale
5 large silvers: participation pay for Angelica grades squadron where Angelica fails
3 large silvers: referal and education fee from Gilberta company for a meeting with Lady Rozemyne
1 small silver: a quantity sufficient to keep Gunther out drinking until Kamil falls asleep
1 small silver: hairpins suitable for laynobles and mednobles ordered for girls in the Royal Academy

-----gold
1 small gold: participation pay for Angelica grades squadron where Angelica passes
1 small gold: colored playing card set in childrens room sale
1 small gold: picture books in childrens room sale
1 small gold per recipie of myne's (unpublished, almost universal exclusivity and family discount)
1 small gold: best seat (possibly table) in the Ferdinand concert
8 small golds: Frieda's offer for yeast levened bread's recipie, possibly non-exclusive.
// possible mistake: book 8: hairpin recipie is listed for 1 large gold and 7 small golds, one more small gold than prior
3 large golds: donations attained by Rozemyne hosting a tea party with the Florencia faction from Florencia and Elvira's good will with noblewomen

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-----gold (cont)
12 large golds, 8 small golds, 6 large silvers (128,600,000 Lyon): Ferdinand Concert income
more than 10 large golds : Profit from Ferdinand concert
more than 10 large golds : a quantity that Ferdinand considers to be insignificant
6 small golds and 6 large silvers: funds (and possibly payment) for infiltration of the lower city, "fair payment"
3 small golds: purchase price of the pawned book, "an incredible steal".
2 large golds: Myne's first proposed price for 30 of Rozemyne's recipes, the same taught to karsted, Ferdinand, and Sylvester
Enormously expensive: Country wide magic contract, sufficiently expensive for Ferdinand to consider it enourmously expensive (10+ large golds considered to be loose change)
5 small golds: avg price of gray priest (prior to Myne's reforms)
1 small gold: Gray priest apprentice capable no more than simple serving work.
5-6 small golds: Gray priest Volk (excluding printing industry knowledge and experience)
2 large golds, 2 small golds: greay priest Volk (including printing industry knowledge and experience)
1 large gold, 6 small golds to 1 large gold, 7 small golds: value of the printing industry knowledge and experience of a gray priest
2 large golds: the ammount Myne made from paper in the first half year of production

user, the reason you have trouble understanding how things work isn't because the world makes no sense, it's because you're a retard

----- gold (cont)
2 large golds: Archnoble full fee for Rosemyne compression method
8 small golds: Mednoble full fee for Rosemyne compression method
2 small golds: Laynoble full fee for Rosemyne compression method
1 large gold: Archnoble fee for Rosemyne compression method from second purchase onward in each family
4 small golds: Mednoble fee for Rosemyne compression method from second purchase onward in each family
1 small gold: Laynoble fee for Rosemyne compression method from second purchase onward in each family
1 small gold per person: Royal Academy Library registration fee
3 large golds: Royal Academy Library book deposit fee
around 5 small golds: a new children's magic tool
3 small golds: Philine's mother's heriloom magic tool that has had it's mana forcibly overwritten

>What are official documents

Why would a blacksmith know how to make proper ink? You know proper ink is more than just soot dipped in water right? Thats the literal shittest kind of ink there is

Its literal slave labor, they dont get payed.

Mynes ignorance and nothing more

Well, what exactly was butchered?

Myne showing japans culture to ferdinand. Myne take a bath while he was forced to watch. Ferdinand seeing Mynes graduation in which he begins to mistake that she was an upper class girl in her previous life due to the fancy kimono she wore. Just to name a few things

>Trying to get used to anime voices after being LN only.
My headcanon voices were just too different. I imagined Myne with a less childish voice and Fernand just sounds wayy too old to me.

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>filtered by soup

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Friendly reminder that we have spoiler tags and t to please use them.

I figure if we must discuss the novels without spoiler-ing everything we should use Yea Forums. They're not using all their allocated threads properly anyway.

Why was this allowed?

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>has memories of her time as a grown women
>somehow keeps acting like a total brat instead of behaving her age
????

if you're looking at anime and manga and expecting realism and educated authors you must be a sadist

>fags keeps recommending this to me because of its >realism
>autistfag points out genuine oversight the author made to keep the plot going
>REEEEE IT'S JUST A MANGA HOW DARE YOU USE YOUR BRAIN

>>What are official documents
at the point where the maybe 5% of population who even can read and write use more than a barrel of ink for official documents you have created a bureaucracy worse than mondern day Germany, to scale. at that point the construction guild is probably in on it because the ink guild keeps getting them contracts to build storage buildings for archive all these documents. next thing you know the next person will be killed by a paper avalanche.

>Why would a blacksmith know how to make proper ink? You know proper ink is more than just soot dipped in water right? Thats the literal shittest kind of ink there is
even if it's "the shittest kind", that's a kind, of which we learned this episode that so far there's only 1 and even the idea of creating another seemed inconceivable to a person of the trade. at that point you start experimenting by adding other ingredients like oil, fat, alcohol, vinegar (if that has been invented yet) etc.

>Its literal slave labor, they dont get payed.
so that's why their production rate is so shit. imagine how productive they could be if they got paid!

>they only manage to create 80 books with 15 pages and no hard cover in an undisclosed number of weeks, despite having access to a wood plate printing press
Didn't they need to make the paper from scratch too? That adds a lot of time.

>Myne take a bath while he was forced to watch
Okay, now I'm mad!!!

I know this must be a hard concept for some to understand, but there is more than one person other than you on the internet, and they do not always agree with everything.

Also someone claiming there's some "genuine oversight" doesn't mean there actually is.

There actually is other kinds of ink but they belong to the dyeing guild. And the reason blacksmiths dont just make their own ink is magic contracts. Magic contracts can be made fief wide and anyone who breaks them will literally turn to dust so people just keep their nose out of shit thats contracted to other guilds.

As for the whole guild thing, guilds are basically just groups protected under certain contracts, So the ink guild that makes the ink for nobility and rich merchants cant just do whatever they want.

>Myne doesn't care about who she marries as long as he has the biggest bookroom in town
What a slut.

brb buying a palace worth of books

Why would she act differently? It's the same person. Rather complain about her usually acting like a brat when she's 20+ years old. But you'll sound like a retard because it has been stated that she's a fucking book obsessed socially retarded maniac.

Bookworm is not recommended because of realism (because let's face it realism is boring).
I's recommended because of its world consistency, its characters building and its excellent foreshadowing. All qualities that are usually sparse in LN in general and isekai in particular.

>world consistency
constistently moronic more like
>characters building
1-dimensional at best
>excellent foreshadowing
"I want books" -> makes a booklet

ink is used in documents and contracts, so of course a small guild in the capital of medium-sized duchy is reasonable. Soot-based ink doesn't work well for partchment, so the more complex version is used instead, and the complex receipe for it is obviously a trade secret

the printing press they have is a very basic design, it requires quite a bit of strength to operate. all the resources used so far are cheap, and while the books are cheaper
than partchment-based ones they still are considered and priced as luxury goods.

the throwing away broth stuff actually happened in England, so it's dumb but not impossible - and the future dishes Myne will make are actually complex.
Also children in orphanage were starving because bezenwast deliberately left them to starve and nobody outside the temple cares what happens there

Remember there's a shortage of blue robes because of the recent purge, their leftovers are usually what ends up with the greys.

We get it, you are retarded, no need to show it off.

It was extremely condensed to hurry to the climax of the scene, and end up removing almost everything from Ferdinand's point of view.

Mine's many competent husbands are finally producing the hon.

>The black ink we use in our pens or in inkjet printers is essentially made from soot. The technical term for the substance is “carbon black,” and it is the powder that remains after burning coal or oil. The powder is mixed with a polymer and a solvent to turn it into smooth, flowing black rollerball ink.

Rice field.

>kid hygiene! what nonsense! they should stay filthy all their young lives!

What did you expect, she is a she after all.

a grown woman, in modern times user
most of them are children

no 1 rion coin piece

how do they make small change?

how far behind are the translations of the ln? I downloaded the torrent with all the current translated vol so I would like to know if theyre almost up to date like the gs ones

>gs ones
what?

goblin slayer

>how far behind are the translations of the ln?
j-novel translations are on Part 4.
Japanese release is on Part 5.
Part 5 is the last arc (not counting fanbooks, side stories, collected twitters, reference materials, and the fledgeling Hannelore sequel).

Personally I wouldn't recommend the j-novel translations, but to each their own.

The LNs are still behind the WN.

Did you like the new episode?

>Did you like the new episode?
It has its charm.
It differs from the LN- Benno offers to cosign with Myne because he knows Myne's investments will pay off; in the anime she had to convince him.
In the LN Wolf isn't shown "on screen" and it is never revealed in any of the content at all what he looks like, who hired him, or who killed him. Even the author doesn't know, which basically means he was supposed to be a throwaway character.

It's a "Muh glorious Nihon" isekai, of course nothing in it holds up to critical analysis

user... Almost everything she introduces is European. The only things that are nipponese are shioyaki and yuzen. You're retarded.

>Personally I wouldn't recommend the j-novel translations
That's pretty damning, I don't find them worse than any other official LN translation. In fact I'd say they're top quartile, easy. Given that the alternative is reading them raw, anyone who can't read moonrunes should really read the j-novel translations.

I didn't know Patreon existed in the middle ages.

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I think it retained the same quality it had of previous seasons, which isn't really bad. I just think it can be improved more, like reducing more still scenes.

the middle ages was all about patronage.

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i did
actually, in this season, this one was the one i had the most fun with, so far
it appears the studio already knows the chemistry between the characters and knows how to present the original material in the adaptation, though that's not very surprising after 26 episodes

Does she invent a vibratir and onahole? How about modern drawing techniques and knowledge to create sone nice porn?

Well I only wanted to make a retarded joke.

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>That's pretty damning, I don't find them worse than any other official LN translation. In fact I'd say they're top quartile, easy. Given that the alternative is reading them raw, anyone who can't read moonrunes should really read the j-novel translations.
I've read both the raws and the j-novel translation.
I mentioned this in the last thread
The j-novel translation has too much purple prose, memes, mistranslations and misinterpretations, and "The americans don't known how to pronounce Jürgenschmidt SO WE HAVE TO CHANGE ALL THE NAMES".
Also, in the japanese version, Myne's got a sort of dry wit, something like .... british humor. In the J-novel translations, she comes off as an unbearably obnoxious cunt.

>obnoxious cunt
Maybe they've tried to americanize that part too?

There was clear room for improvement, but it was serviceable.

Would have been better if we got to see her wearing her new undies.

Hmm, so far I've only read up to the beginning of P3 in english, and then the rest in japanese, so I haven't gone back to compare the raws to the translation. I guess I'll keep an eye out for purple prose. I do remember memes getting added and I fucking hate that too but it's so common these days I've just gotten used to it.

A retranslation is probably never going to happen, but maybe someday someone will go through and re-edit to clean up the errors and memes.

To add to your post, I do not understand why the hell they replaced almost all uses of "Aub" with "Archduke". Is it because burgers are too stupid to remember fictional titles? Then why do you keep Zent and Giebe?