>paneling peaked 50+ years ago
Paneling peaked 50+ years ago
Not really a fan of that one. It tries too much to be "clever".
The most easy readable simple paneling I've seen is by Adachi
On the contrary, it tries to be whimsical, that's exactly the sort of thing children do when they first discover comics.
One man is still innovating
pales in comparison to windsor mckay's work
OP, how about you explain to us, in one paragraph, what this paneling trick means. What is its purpose, and what does it accomplish?
Not op but it's pretty obvious, do your own research
Not even the best paneling gimmick in Phoenix.
It's the beginning of the space chapter, you know the part I mean.
Stealing from Mha isn't innovation
It's innovation if the things before it were shittier in comparison
Meta paneling is still done to this day you know.
it peaked when that goofy comic was made
you know the one
this guy just keep on impressing me, what a god.
>I'll have a hundred or maybe even two hundred
How
Chainsawman is fucking rad
>hundred
quintuplets every year for 20 years
>Breaking the 4th wall = le good paneling
What an ignorant take, shoot yourself
Le 4th wall breaking
Ywnbaw
These posts were payed for by taxpayer money
That is highly improbable
It's very stylistic but it also very confusing. Like by using the arms as wall to separate the panel, it create question whether the arms are diegetic or non-diegetic. I wouldn't call it good paneling
Trying too hard in this one.
There's probably a way to frame or map it out visually in like a 3d space so I think in a way yes its diegetic.
How about "it was hyperbole" and she wasn't thinking rationally? Or maybe she plans kidnapping kids from all around? Or bioincubators?
>look mom I split one panel into three ain't I a genius
Not even Tezuka's best paneling.
Not even the best paneling in Hi no Tori, actually.
Wrong thread?
The best paneling are from comics. There's rarely a time when I read manga and just stare at a page because of how it all comes together but something like Calvin & Hobbes regularly makes me stare at a page for its composition alone
The major thing I've learned from these threads is that quality manga paneling is a purely objective art form. The formula is that paneling I like is good and high quality, the paneling you like is bad and low quality, and this is a universal principle that applies to everyone. Now post pages you love so I can say how it sucks donkey dick because it either tries too hard or doesn't try hard enough.
All the examples are cool but none of them really contribute anything except being neat. Witch Hat Atelier is such a common example but it has so much great paneling. Using one of the less posted pages instead of the one everyone knows already
What's the point in separating panels between characters' dialogue if they're all just going "EH EH NANDATTE?"
Read more Tezuka, he does stuff like that all the time.
How did they even animate this?
Wow, a character outside of the panel? That's incredible! AND it looks like she's looking at him? Damn.
curse devil is so much better
it actually makes a twisted sort of sense for a sudden instakill to come from the gutters of a page, but using hands to separate panels means nothing beyond DUDE HANDS
Good paneling is rarely showy. Each panel guides you to where you need to start looking at the next one which is the bare minimum a lot of people don't bother with. The Chainsaw Man example has some readability issues.
The voice from panel 3 cuts into panel 2 to give us the dude's relative position and then the worm carries our eyes to the girl in panel 4 first before we're directed back up. She's not outside the panel because it looks cool, she's outside because she's literally separated by a door staring into the room. It's just very practical.
This is the really popular page from the manga which is fancier but most of the good pages are just using very simple tricks to tell a story with the art
I can't remember that page's specific layout or if you're referring to just the twist
The reason for that page was just to portray the utter confusion of all the people in there after this giant demon just blitzed them and cut off all their arms at once before they could even realize what was going on. Using the arms as gutters is just a nice aesthetic extra that ties into what is happening in the scene, but you could probably produce a "confusion" style panel layout by doing a similar page with normal gutters and arms flying around inside the panels. It has more oomph like this though.
This is just poor man's animation
>the worm carries our eyes to the girl in panel 4 first before we're directed back up
No. What 99% of people would do, is read the text bubble, and then immediately look down to read the text bubble in the big panel. This creates a line that runs contrary to the line connecting Coco's vision, which works against the potential flow the page could have if it was composed the opposite way. I doubt anyone would use the worm to guide their eye through panels like that, certainly nobody who's accustomed to reading a lot of manga.
actually cool af
I'm gonna start reading it today
if you wanna talk about "producing confusion" then THAT one page is infinitely better, as evidenced by endless reposts, and i just don't see stylized borders as a peak of panelling
fairytales and old european books in general have tons of fancy capitals and vignettes, so maybe i'm just too used to seeing such things
paneling
not the best exemple of creative paneling
>Good panneling is when the panels themselves exist on the story.
Such a simple concept that many mangaka fail to grasp.
Can you cite from more recent comic produced by tranny infested American comic book industry?
How has Ultra Heaven not been mentioned once? Paneling genuinely peaked with it.
ONE has great paneling.
"le random paneling XD" isn't necessarily a good thing.
It's chaotic because he's high, that's it. Ultra Heaven isn't the first to do it (nor is it the best one).
So what is the best one?
Yeah as a former comic nerd, they are way ahead of Japan on these sorts of metrics but over time I just came to realize how empty that aspect of comics is. It doesn't really make up for everything else. Not that comics as a medium are terrible or anything but but after the few thousand I've read, I feel I've read enough whereas manga I'm always excited to read more.
Diagonal lines, trash
There are other ones that aren't the same. It is a good read.
>curse devil is so much better
I don't remember, that's the one in which the devil pushes the sword with the finger flick? I likes that one a lot and made sense
That's mediocre dude,
>Good paneling is rarely showy
This. It's great when you get a flashy example to show off on an imageboard but it's usually a lot more subtle.