Let's be objective with Chainsaw Man. The last arc was disappointing. But the question here is, can MAPPA fix it? And how can they do it?
Chainsaw Man
They cant. The last arc is so bad its unfixable.
The last arc was amazing just like every single arc in CSM
>be Makima
>wanted to kill War Horsemen, Famine Horsemen, Death Horsemen because ???
>loved CSM because ???
author couldn't even show her flashback to explain why Makima wanted to do those things
half-assed character
overhyped manga, overhyped anime
If CSM hadn't been published in WSJ, it wouldn't have been popular.
nope, the writting was fucking terrible
>can MAPPA fix it?
No MAPPA can not fix whatever issues the final arc of part 1 as any major changes or additions may interfere with part 2. They could add one scene of power looking sad about Aki’s death and implying she knows Denji is depressed about killing Aki for the hayakawa family fags.
>And how can they do it?
Just animate the action scenes and the kobeni Pochita date good.
>''Aerith dies''
>''Shut up already!!!''
>''Oh man, that's the worst attitude i ever seen''
The only thing I expect Mappa to do is giving us more wholesome scenes with Aki, Denji and Power. I don't think they will explain more about Makima or the power system since Fujimoto left these things ambiguous in order to have more freedom during the writing of part 2
>can MAPPA fix it?
It's MAPPA. Take a guess, dude.
My main problems with the final arc are the Makima infodump, and Power ''death'' only to return 6 chapters later and die again.
Blind fanboy
Meh, I was okay with Power coming back in chapter 90. She was killed too abruptly just for the shock value, her death didn't feel like a proper conclusion to her character. Aki's death on the other hand, was perfectly executed. If he comes back in Part 2 I'm gonna be so mad
>Makima was retarded
>told Kishibe everything because ???
>didn't kill Kishibe because ???
No one could fix the final arc of CSM.
I agree. Maybe if MAPPA slows the pace at that point, the final arc can actually be good in the anime.
The only way they can fix it is by jebaiting viewers to watch Fire Punch instead of CSM
>Makima was retarded
Yes
>told Kishibe everything because ???
She was retarded and Fujimoto wanted to give Pochita a at the moment useless asspull power. Should have just made Makima a control freak.
>didn't kill Kishibe because ???
Pochita raped her with his Chenso and Kishibe hid. Main priority for Makima was Big Black Chenso.
Makima was crazy and saw CSM as something of an equal/god and was drawn to him out of a desire for companionship.
Don't believe her dumb "erase war and famine" speech to Kishibe.
NO WAY, this lives up to expectations lol. This will ruin Mappa and make them a laughing stock and I'm all for it . Fuck Mappa.
Ah, I see, more pretentious and idiotic speedraeader who completely missed the point. Makima was explicitly stating that she likes humans in the same way humans like dogs, Kishibe was posing no threat to her in that situation and she had no reason to kill him. Makima was never shown to randomly kill people unless it was for her own use. She isn't "evil" in a literal sense.
Also, another point that you speedreading retards forgot, the more human a devil looks, the more freindly it is with humans.
I’m all for fuck Mappa too but there’s no way in hell they can make it a trash fire compared to the manga.
>She isn't "evil" in a literal sense.
I know, she’s autistic.
>a trash fire compared to the manga.
You mean the same manga that was universally well recived?
Makima had no problem turning those devil hunters into Zombies. Who's speedreader now? Makima lost because she was fucking retarded.
You mean the ones power killed. You’re ass retarded if not more than final arc Makima.
the graveyard fight
also this
She was using them to gight the blood devil though, she had a reason to do it. You can even make the argument that she was expecting to get sliced up and then eaten anyway after having asked Pochita for help, so she saw no reason in killing Kishibe during that particualr moment. You're forgetting that she got ambushed by Kishibe and the hell devil squad and was about to get cast into hell, she HAD to ask Pochita for help or she would be finished otherwise. Makima was fucked the moment she left her apartment in chapter 83.
lets be real, mappa cand only fuck things up, i like jjk and i was a soulless adaptation made for fujos, also
>last arc
csm started going downhill from the international assassins arc
you keep posting this like it means something, perhaps garbage lives rent free in your head?
>she likes humans in the same way humans like dogs
Makima had no reason to tell Kishibe about her weakness and CSM. Also, Makima had no problem with gouging people's eyes out.
The writting was fucking meh.
>Makima had no reason to tell Kishibe about her weakness and CSM
She literally thought that she was going to die and get eaten by Chainsaw Man anyway. That's why she told Kishibe everything.
She gouged this eyes out because she had a reason to, to make the yakuza cooperate with her.
Although it is silly that she didn't just mind control them into obeying her.
>mind control him in a room ful of yakuza who would just shoot her
>instead of just doing it the safe and easy way
>room full of yakuza
Mind control them all as well, I'm sure she perceives them as being below her after all.
>shoot her
So?
Actually, the final arc has other bullshit moment too.
If Makima had weaken Pochita before fighting him with other Hybrids, she would've won.
Makima being conquest thinks of herself as someone above everyone else, even devils who are stronger than her.
Here comes in the solitude of the strong: she wanted Chainsawman to become the strongest and then embrace her as an equal, something only him could do.
Mappa seems terrible at fanservice scene like swimsuit scene.
fuck Chainsaw man
fuck MAPPA
they should go full big dick budget and finish Dorohedoro
Will we see Makima in bikini?
>checked MAL
>SnK top 1
Holy kek. People will realize CSM writing problems once the anime comes out.
I agree. The last arc felt so strange and rushed.
Makima wanted Pochita to eat her at that moment.
speak for yourself. the last arc hit just the spot for me
This. If anything actually winning and getting control over Pochita would have been so hollow a victory that she would have lost all drive to do anything with it
Where are they gonna end season 1? Looks like it'll be right before the Reze arc, assuming Denji is fighting the zombies the second time around in the last few panels
Chainsaw Man made me realize that as long as people like the final result they don't really care about the quality of the writing (me included). At the end of the day it's just another shonen manga. When Snk ended everyone got mad and started saying that Isayama's writing was shit (and they were right) but now I understand that the only reason people said that is because they just wanted the "cool" full genocide ending. Now the same people keep saying CSM is the best manga ever created despite it having even more asspulls and poor writing in general.
I liked the final arc but I agree that everything felt too rushed after Aki death.
Aki said if Denji had killedd anyone during the bat devil fight then he would have been eliminated by the higher ups. What exactly was Makima's plan if that had happened? How was she supposed to make him transform into Chainsaw Man if he had just been killed off after being too reckless?
So what do you think CSM fags want for the ending of part 2 to be? Also didn’t the MC of SNK get doubled cucked after being built up as some “based” faggot?
why almost everyone of you wants to be spoonfeed by the author so bad?
>muh Makima flashback
no need for it
>why Makima loved CSM
maybe because Makima considered CSM the strongest devil and she wants to be above all the devils, and conquer them?
>Incel Eren died like a bitch
>Denji saved the world and became Hero of Earth
Yeah. If Eren hadn't died, people would've called it the manga of all time lel.
>The last arc is so bad
you fucktards literally say this to every series (the latest victim being AOT), at this point your words has no value.
Probably pour some blood on Denji’s corpse or just remove the pochita heart and shove it in Aki. Aki couldn’t kill shad easily with Kon and punishment, so similar results would appeal to Denji.
*the best
yeah that's exactly what happened
>Now the same people keep saying CSM is the best manga ever created despite it having even more asspulls and poor writing in general.
Chainsaw Man is objectively speaking the best shonen manga to come out post-2010, fact, not an opinion. Every manga has flaws, that doesn't take away from everything that made it great in the first place. If you think CSM is mediocre you can't claim any shonen to be good. Chainsaw Man actually had the balls to try and attempt a different storytelling approach (self contained story in less than 100 chapters, rushing from arc to arc for maximum entertainment while still managing a good balance between character development, character interactions, comedy, action, catharsis, and story progression etc.). CSM actually has its own unique identity, something that 99,9% of shonen are missing these days. No matter what your opinion on CSM is, if you can't acknowledge its obivous strengths you're just pretentious fucking moron who completely missed the point. Go and read some fucking garbage generic and recycled shonen filth or moe pandering tranny shit instead, a subhuman such as you doesn't even deserve to read Chainsaw Man anyway.
Aki didn't had a contract with punishment, user.
He had a contract with:
>Fox devil (After using him on shad, not anymore)
>Curse devil
>Future devil (before the counterattack against the yakuza).
I don't think it's mediocre. I love it. I was just pointing out the fact that as long as people love the direction the story is going they can forgive every asspull or writing problem
So all the bullshit spammed threads over the last few years I ignored was all because self inserts got their ships fucked up/cucked and characters going full retard. They’re going to fuck us, aren’t they.
I got curse and punishment confused. Also future didn’t come til much later and Aki had to be saved by violence in the fight with Reze.
>Reze couldn't destroy it
>Outer space coudln't destroy it
>Pochita could bring Denji with him if you remove the heart
The only way to kill Denji is to eat his heart (Eternity wanted to eat Denji). Pretty sure all the higher ups were dead or got controlled by Makima in Gun arc. (She sat at their table)
Would Aki eat demon core? What would result be?
Not that user but yeah, that's what is gonna happen. These threads will be fucked and I'm saying this as an ex EHfag. We were all suffering from some form of mass delusion
>These threads will be fucked and I'm saying this as an ex EHfag
So /snk/ has infected /csm/. You fucks better not start a even bigger ship war or suck Denji’s cock like you fags did with cuckren. Well it was nice knowing you all. Thanks for the bananas.
Reze mission was to recover/steal the heart not out right destroy it.
holy delusional
post like this is the reason why Yea Forums will gang up on csm in future kek
nta but any argument?