Gintama isn't funny without "investing" a bunch of time developing Stockholm Syndrome for the cast and series...

I didn't make it past 10 episodes of this shit
Comedy my ass this is rebbit tier gag humor and it feels like it's only praised by people because they watched it when they were 12.

I'm gonna give it the benefit of the doubt and say it'd be funnier in japanese than in english but I highly doubt it.

> I doubt that a creation designed for a specific audience that I do not fall into could be better if I had more traits similar to that specific audience such as but not limited to, LANGUAGE SKILLS

> battle Shonen shit which is what made the series ending turn to shit.
Midwit take beyond belief
If anything it turned to LOGH

LoGH didn't have 15 chapters of panning shots of screaming humans running towards aliens with their swords while someone monologues in text boxes about the spirit of Kabukicho.

>smug_anime_girl.jpg
Of course universal humor is mainly visual you dumb cunt. The point is just that humor transcends culture. You need to accept that a straight man yelling at a wise guy just isn't very funny to everyone but the Japanese. Even the jokes that don't rely on the Japanese language or an understanding of Japanese culture aren't very funny

First of all, your statement doesn't even contain anything negative about Gintama.
Secondly, LoGH had a lot of philosophical talk/etc during action as well.
Thirdly, each of the chapters set in the Kabukicho vs Liberation army fight had different and unique themes that you wouldn't appreciate unless you read the translation with a very keen eye while considering possible mistakes HWMN could have made, watched the anime multiple times, or read it in Japanese, simple as. And for mongrels like you that gave up on the series there's no way you could have achieved that level of depth of reading.

> Of course universal humor is mainly visual you dumb cunt.
Ok
> The point is just that humor transcends culture
You've given good examples of visual humor that transcends culture but none for other types of humor. This statement remains UNSHOWN.
> You need to accept that a straight man yelling at a wise guy just isn't very funny to everyone but the Japanese.
Because you aren't Japanese.
Memes are also unfunny to people that have not been conditioned to get why they are funny.
> Even the jokes that don't rely on the Japanese language or an understanding of Japanese culture aren't very funny
Almost none of the gags in Gintama don't rely on either of those.

>Gintama isn't funny
could have just ended your post there

> user is sad he can't enjoy something so he cries about it online
could have just said this

get some pussy holy shit

some things are just bad, in fact most anime is bad, what an insane cope

>braindead normalfags have opinions about media they don't understand
Cool man.

>braindead fag thinks having opinions on media is cool

> Opponent unironically resorts to hole arguments
One of the few ways on Yea Forums to conclusively know you've won a debate.
I'm glad you understand that not all humor is universal and that you missed out on the best parts of Gintama. And that's okay. Now live the rest of your life.

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I always thought that anons who said "it gets good after..." were baiting idiots into watching something they obviously don't like. I loved Gintama since the first episode, and that's all you need to know what this entire show is gonna be about. You just don't like it, and that's fine, why would you force yourself to watch something you don't? That's fucking idiotic. I usually rewatch some episodes or arcs that are really solid, or certain scenes. The humor is on point for my tastes, I just skip the serious arcs like a plague besides some good ones like Okita's sister.

And you come online to cry about it because?

Largely true and based post
> I just skip the serious arcs like a plague besides some good ones like Okita's sister
Except this is somewhat cringe. You're allowing what was an animation director for a few episodes (or VA, or storyboarder, or audio director, who gave the seiyuu directions etc) to ruin sorachi's story and stop all further pondering in favor of simple dismissal

God damn this is some fart sniffing of the highest order.
Even the Gorilla knows that the final part of Gintama isn't very good because he needed 3 magazines to get to a conclusion.

if gintama is so good and kino and of refined taste why do I only see normalfags praising it?

I was not the guy you were arguing with I just happened to notice you have autism

>Nobody wins Gintokibowl
That's the only thing that matters

> God damn this is some fart sniffing of the highest order.
Cool insult. However, now let's see if your post has anything of substance
> Even the Gorilla knows that the final part of Gintama isn't very good
Completely false. Extremely clear Sorachi is proud of the final arcs if you read the volume comments
> he needed 3 magazines to get to a conclusion.
Not a unique jump practice
They do this to sell Giga

Cool bro, have a good day.

> If breathing air is so necessary for cool people like me why do I see so many normalfags telling me to stop holding my breath?

Forgot to add. So, your post ended up not having substance after all. A bit disappointed.

>instant loss retort
newfags, normalfags... fucking everywhere

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>having opinions on media is cool
Why are you even here?

>comedy manga becomes a battle shonen with the occasional gag and kept alive purely because fujos flocked to it
Many such cases.

> implying it wasn't planned all along
low IQ perhaps

I'm animater man btw

>p-please debate me
I'm the original guy you were arguing with and the statement that humor is universal is not exactly something that can be rigorously proved so I was just planning to leave it at that. Just like universal visual humor is not something you can prove is universal only because it's visual. It's just the most obvious way to transcend the language barrier. I'm sure there are plenty of Americans that find British humor to be funny, plenty of English-speaking Chinese people that find American humor funny, but those are just anecdotes, no matter how numerous they are.
At the end of the day, my problem is just how much you are overstating the strength of the relationship between culture/language and humor. Apart from the most esoteric of jokes, there isn't comedy that ceases to be funny just because it's translated. Even if I was born Japanese, and even if many of the other Gintama detractors were born Japanese, very little would change because the base material just isn't very funny.

I loved the manga, not the anime but from what I remember with the anime, the reason why the first few episodes weren't as good is they were literally filler. I never got past them, I enjoyed clips I saw of other episodes and I'm sure the anime was great but I was satisfied with the manga. I did watch one or two of the live action films though and maybe one of the animated ones, they were alright.

Factually speaking, Gintama is not funny and is extremely poorly written, you people arguing about it are dumb

circular logic

Factually speaking, Gintama is funny and is extremely well written, you people arguing about it are dumb

this is actually extremely true, but once you got the stockholm syndrome its pretty good

gintama "humour"

>look at me I am dressed like a character from a different anime

le kek ! even better than Big Bang Theory XD

The problem with Gintama is that it's not funny

I'm not reporting that post for low quality, but somebody probably should.

I said this as someone who read the manga from start to finish. But on his serious arcs the Gorilla was repetitive.
>Villain who has a sad past so he is not that villainous
>If the villain doesn't has a sad past some one in the cast has a sad past but someone needs to have a sad past
>Gintoki or someone gets BTFO
>The enemy is overwhelmingly strong or has a big group of baddies, no idea how the heroes are gonna go against that, right?
>Second battle were they BTFO the big baddie
>Some ally gets killed but not really it's just the gorilla doing cheap drama
>Some ally attacks the heroes but not really he had a good reason to do that teehee
And the final arc is a loop of all the Gorilla cliches who let's be true, they get tiresome because sometimes there are not stakes for the main group of characters, they are safe. Meanwhile the joke arcs, even when the Gorilla has tropes on them too, feel more fresh because that's were he excels at instead of the cheap drama he taught his Sket Dance assistant.

tell us what you find funny Mr comedy. i don't understand why do you get so much superiority out of such subjective things as what makes you laugh and what doesn't.

>remember when this show was about aliens?

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Fuck you, Sket Dance's dramatic arcs were great. Better than most of Gintama's, that's for sure.

>statement that humor is universal is not exactly something that can be rigorously proved
Forget rigorously proving. No need to move the goalposts so high so you can give up early. You just need to attempt to justify it so we can laugh at you.
> my problem is just how much you are overstating the strength of the relationship between culture/language and humor
The point is that humor relies on receiving prelearned cues (unless they refer to primitive instinct such as most physical humor does). If you don't know what the loss comic is, you won't understand any deconstruction of it like picrel. Humor requires a base and you lack the base for Gintama. This is the fundamental point I am making.
> Apart from the most esoteric of jokes, there isn't comedy that ceases to be funny just because it's translated
Let's assume that you are correct.
What if I told you that the Gintama translation is largely poor when it comes to the humor?
What possible argument can you have in return?
> Even if I was born Japanese, and even if many of the other Gintama detractors were born Japanese, very little would change because the base material just isn't very funny.
Since I find it to be very funny, what you mean to say then is really the following: That if the types of autistic detractors who post the exact same foundless accusations online multiple times on multiple threads were born in another country, they would find other ways to cry out loud that they were not able to best enjoy something to its own potential there as well.

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I was satisfied with the manga
glad to hear it user

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Explain how in detail from beginning to the end.
I am not even trying to use logic, I am mocking you. Explain where my logical error is.

Why the fuck people calls Stockholm Syndrome anything that barely needs that you pay a little bit more that 20 minutes of attention and don't fucking have adhd?

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> t. secondary or meme-consumer only.
there is 0% chance you have read the manga with the integrity to properly experience it.

Good, I'm glad pearls are wasted before swine

It was always about aliens. At least half and probably far more conflicts and jokes relate to their presence at least somehow. Smart people (or people that at least TRY to use their minds to engage with the story being told) realize this.

I'm sorry user but I disagree, the only necessary dramatic arcs in Sket Dance were Switch off and On. Everything else from Bossun and beyond was unnecessary and a cheap attempt at making the reader bawl.

Breathing air is objectively good for me and everybody else, Gintama is not

> I said this as someone who read the manga from start to finish. But on his serious arcs the Gorilla was repetitive.
There are several themes that continue through the series and Sorachi purposely uses parallels to draw these out. Considering this repetitive is like considering Moby Dick repetitive for the reason "they keep hunting a whale bro"
>Villain who has a sad past so he is not that villainous
You mean writing a character as a full-faceted human? I'm glad he does this repeatedly.
>If the villain doesn't has a sad past some one in the cast has a sad past but someone needs to have a sad past
You mean writing a character as a full-faceted human? I'm glad he does this repeatedly.
>Gintoki or someone gets BTFO
Right, I have never seen this happen repeatedly in another piece of writing. I can't believe this could happen. How could be repeat this?
>The enemy is overwhelmingly strong or has a big group of baddies, no idea how the heroes are gonna go against that, right?
Right, I have never seen this happen repeatedly in another piece of writing. I can't believe this could happen. How could be repeat this?
>Second battle were they BTFO the big baddie
Right, I have never seen this happen repeatedly in another piece of writing. I can't believe this could happen. How could be repeat this?
>Some ally gets killed but not really it's just the gorilla doing cheap drama
You are implying that the drama is cheap while failing entirely to justify that. All you mention is death fakeouts, which again are not by definition a bad thing. In other words you failed to show anything.
>Some ally attacks the heroes but not really he had a good reason to do that teehee
List 5 times this happened and why each is an instance of bad writing.

> And the final arc is a loop of all the Gorilla cliches
You have to justify this point further because otherwise it is a pointless statement.

cont'd