Is this the edgiest book?

Is this the edgiest book?

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I can't read pass two paragraphs.

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I don't really get the point of this stuff.

You're supposed to masturbate to it

>swiss
very suss

is this what happens when you go trans?

A)The joy of trolling and making people angry
B)A philosophical experiment on freedom of speech
C)The author fetish

>A)The joy of trolling and making people angry
>B)A philosophical experiment on freedom of speech

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Some people hobby on Yea Forums is triggering people.

Cope and seethe, ma'am.

>Some people hobby on Yea Forums is triggering people.
>Cope and seethe, ma'am.

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This is so poorly written it is actually insane.

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The edgiest book objectively speaking is Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler

I always figured the title was figurative and not literal. This is terrible and not just because of the topic. The ridiculous extreme he takes it too suggests it could still be figurative in the context of the novel as a whole but the poor writing suggests such a thing would be beyond him.
lol, no. You clearly never read it.

I get the impression from the constant short sentences and fragmentary repetitions that he's trying to write from the perspective of a retard, but I can't imagine getting through over a hundred pages of this. It would be so tedious if it remains this one-note the entire time.

It's up there.

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If it was written well it would be disturbing, but i can’t get through more than a few sentences without laughing out loud because of the sheer absurdity

Maybe the preface will help you understand.

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So it’s just shock value for the sake of shock value

If the goal was to overcome a distinction between art and life, and produce something of potent status, then I have to regard it as a failure. There are books that I've read which I would say these things of because their story and language are of really transcendent quality. But the attempt to shock the reader with transgressive content alone is not transcendent at all, it's just juvenile. It reads like the author trying to get a level of attention that his skill can't attract without gimmicks.

Holy shit, now I understand this masterpiece.

reads like a shitpost

peter sotos is much edger

Which book?

goddammit. i have a sample on my ereader I haven't read yet. I thought the title was edgy, but in a tongue in cheek way. I didn't think it was actually about fucking babies.

It's rather edgy, but in a fun way. There are sentences later on like:

>I fuck babies maybe therefore I am.
or
>I don't fuck sixteen year olds. I fuck babies.
or
>Strange to think a person who doesn't have the energy to get out of bed has the energy to fuck babies.

It's dumb and the choppy style it's written in to reflect the narrator's thought is far from poetic, but it's so short and ridiculous that it's a blast to read.

It was an entry to a prose-contest and won. The translation sucks since no qualified translator would work on it.

e.g. Proxy

IT'SSS AWWRIIIIGHT

Brainlet wojak and it's consequences have been a disaster for public discourse

Babyfuck?

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Has anyone read any of the other obscure books on this list? Can anyone tell me what they're about?

>I've read at least one book from each level, except the last one
>have more on my backlog and ereader
nice

it's not well written, all the sentences are short sentences: it's monotonous hence boring and overwhelming. The idea has potential but it isn't well developed

is that a good book? it is unnecessarily expensive

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first person is shit, we aren't discovering anything new here

thank you for this. It's funny that the last level is written in arabic, what does it mean?

that doesn't justify anything. It is bad written. Period. I would like you to convince me otherwise. But I think you can't.

>their story and language are of really transcendent quality
can you give us some examples?

>I didn't think it was actually about fucking babies.
what is wrong about it? one could write a good novel about fucking babies, not this one, an hypothetical one

>It was an entry to a prose-contest and won
kek

>The translation sucks since no qualified translator would work on it.
maybe that's the problem, that the trasnlation is lame

Because there's nothing to do with the concept. Fucking a baby is super grotesque, it's cartoonishly evil. But after the initial shock, what now? You can't get worse than fucking babies, and you can't redeem someone who fucks babies. It's pure shock and no substance.

The Voynich manuscript is about plants. It's famous just because it's written in some made up alphabet, and no one's been able to figure what language its supposed to be in. It's therefore become an object of fascination for cryptographers and for schizos who like to believe they're the first person to figure out the true meaning.

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do any of these horrors have some literary value? from what ive read, most horrors are mildly entertaining at best but unimpressive pieces of writing

Yeah, I know that. I meant more of the actual books.

The only one I've read below level 1 is Wasp Factory. That's quite good, not sure I'd call it horror. He was definitely trying to pile on the edge. It's about a crazy teenage boy who tortures animals to vent his frustrated rage about having lost his dick and balls to a vicious dog attack when young.

The author literally studied English. Also English an German are in the same family tree.

dude I was just pretending to be a pedophilic retard - the post

>up

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The author should be killed not only for being a chomo faggot, but also a shitty writer.

But bro it stuppsed to be because because muh artistic critique of the literary world bro! Bro do you even Dada bro?

I wouldn't call Wasp Factory horror either. Honestly, I wouldn't call a good number of the works labelled horror as horror at all. Some of them have elements that are meant to be disturbing, but they're often overdone to the point they're just absurd caricatures.

I've read a few of the works on the iceberg. Just skimming the image quickly, I can see: The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas, A Child Called "It", Animal Farm, Lord of the Flies, Nineteen Eighty-Four, Pet Sematary, I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream, The Road, A Clockwork Orange, and The Gulag Archipelago which I've read. Some of them were good. Some of them were average. You can expect George Orwell to write fairly consistently. If you've read one Stephen King novel, you have a fairly good idea of what the rest are like -- they often start strong and fall apart toward the end. I have to say, the one I was most disappointed by was I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream, largely because I'd heard good things about it, but the reality was mediocre. The autobiographical true crimes accounts were, at times, genuinely upsetting.

It was poorly written on purpose. To overcome the distinction between art and life.

yeah, but i won't bother; this is a literature board and you should already know some yourself

The edgiest book ever written, at least by any sort of serious writer, is probably Hogg by Samuel Delaney, which takes place from the point of view of a boy trafficked into sexual slavery, and only goes downhill from there:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogg_(novel)

That said, I have a hard time imagining how anyone could make anything worse than this, including the Breivik and Roger manifestos. It took over twenty years to get this thing published after it was originally drafted, meaning the book was actually written decades before American Psycho, and is still somehow more depraved.

I really don't see the point of this kind of transgressive literature. The writing tends to be mediocre at best and the story tends to have no buoyancy other than the shock factor. As someone raised on the internet, the shock factor is really not there for me, so the whole thing falls flat. It seems like people with middling writing skill acting out to get attention. I suppose they probably argue that it helps reinforce free speech laws to have such over-the-line material published, but I doubt that's the real motivation, it just sounds a little too selfless as an explanation for what usually reads more like spank bank material.

disagree, a good writer can make a great story about anything

cringe, there are newbies everywhere, even here

there are also people who ask you questions just to dunk on whatever you reply with. i know the game

>Turner Diaries
>True Crime
???

This is a nice board though. I would greatly value your input, but obviously you don't have to share if you don't feel comfortable.

the author didn't translate his own book, did he now, retard

Tl:DR

"I'm a pedo but use the bullshit of Art to stop you from saying I am kek"

I can already say with certainty that I'd end up beating this author to death if I got trapped in a room with them - purely because of how much fucking hubris must seep out of them every time they speak.

>there are also people who ask you questions just to dunk on whatever you reply with
wtf, im not saying that that is wrong but living thinking that way must be awful. I always expect people to be serious and good, if they end up not being it, bad for them i dont lose anything answering right

>I didn't think it was actually about fucking babies.
It isn't really. The tongue-in-cheek edge extends beyond the title to the discourse of the narrator, a voice that says it "fucks babies": that is his sentence, his word.

Delaney was already an established, relatively successful, award-winning writer long before Hogg was published, though. And if doing it for attention was the motive, he clearly failed miserably, given that the book took decades to get published at all, and for a long time it had a printrun of just a few hundred copies.

I don't think it deserves to be dismissed completely. I still don't think I'd ever wanna read the damn thing, but if it were really just graphic pornography entirely lacking in merit, he wouldn't've become noted for his other work.