Thought I’d start up the new Bible thread. Continued from Opening question: what was the first Bible you read and which is your favourite translation?
Bible Thread III
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why isn't the bible #1 in Yea Forums's top 100?
it doesn't even break the top ten
I knew you were all godless heathens here
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I remember reading John in NKJV when I was a kid out of those Spirit-Filled Life Bibles.
When I became an adult and actually interested in the Bible I started reading KJV because that is what everyone else used.
Reminder: if you put any church tradition, ritual, doctrine, or dogma over the teachings of Christ, you missed the point of Christianity.
>its okay to contradict Christ because at least you aren't being controversial
You are mistaken.
Proverbs 27:15 A continual dropping in a very rainy day and a contentious woman are alike. 16 Whosoever hideth her hideth the wind, and the ointment of his right hand, which bewrayeth itself.
What Bible websites do you use to help read and understand parts of the Bible? By this I mean explaining the cultural context of certain parts and also explaining parts that have layered meaning.
I don't get it.
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biblehub helps, by having a few commentaries and the original (about specific verses)
Bible Hub. Each verse has its own page of parallel translations. At the bottom of each of those is an original language breakdown. Click on any word in the breakdowns and see every other instance of that word in the original languages throughout the Holy Bible.
Click on a particular translation (KJV, ESV, NASB, NLT, LXX, NRSV, YTL, etc.) and just start reading the Holy Bible. There are commentaries, and a library of books. It's the overall finest Holy Bible resource ever. The main things I miss from its offerings are 1) accounts and saving verses, making notes, etc. and 2) audio of the Holy Bible being read. That one is actually in the works, as part of the Berean Bible projects.
I looked up that book on YT and found this fellow. I am interested enough to perhaps read a bit. I still have a good many of these videos left, but the first two are jam packed with worthwhile information/considerations.
Forgot to include the link to the YT playlist:
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Also, while I'm waiting for the countdown:
>doesn't have much direct experience w/ women
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Yeah at some Baptist churches it's just that.
It varies.
Baptists are hard to pin cause they are so apt to try and be as independent as possible
That other user is describing Pentecostals.
Bible bros, I have a question... Pardon my following ignorance.
I (A non-believer) just picked up a KJV knowing nothing of the bible. Do I just start reading? Is this the first step to take into Christian cannon? I just want to understand more of Christianity and all /lilt/ says about the bible. Am I in too deep?
>Do I just start reading?
Yes, if you know anything of Western art, literature, culture, it should resonate somewhat with you.
However, if you want to get the most out of a Bible I would highly recommend getting a study Bible that explains some of the more obtuse passages.
Personally, I use The Didache Bible with commentary based on the Catechism, but if you do like the KJV translation (and despite being Catholic I don’t think I will ever think there’s anything wrong with it, it was the first one I read and it’s still the word inspired by God regardless) I’ve heard very good things about the Thomas Nelson KJV study Bible.
>Do I just start reading?
Yes.
>Is this the first step to take into Christian cannon?
That could arguably be seen as perhaps either Matthew, or John. Heck, sometimes even Luke or Mark depending on certain foundational particulars being differently prioritized by various types of individual approach. For instance, I think John is by far the most effective, concentrated introduction to the greatest depths that Christianity holds, in terms of the "mystical". And, in fact, I myself tend to advise towards John and Revelation being the first reads altogether, then maybe Genesis on ward into the OT, while simultaneously alternating for relatively short NT sessions. At some point you'll start getting a personal feel for where you want to go, sequentially.
But then there are others whom suggest, for instance, starting with Mark as it is considered by "scholars" to have been the earliest Gospel. So, perhaps *it* should be "the first step in Christian canon". See what I mean?
But then, one must not neglect to bow before Luke and Acts together, being the source for most of the "story narrative drama novelization" material, since it is essentially "the sequel to the 4 gospels", in quite the sense.
It's a lot, what you have ahead of you, and takes some *serious* time to even *begin* to...*understand* any of it, even though a great many have certain arrays of pride and ignorance in their self and "God" views, and *think* they are understanding things just fine and that it's all just a bunch of ridiculous nonsense. They will not see God (Matthew 5:8).
>KJV
Already beginning with wisdom. May ye be blessed in ways unexpected.
>be a real christian
>don’t get baptized
WHAT?!
All joking aside. This is a glow shill divide and conquer post.
These filthy godless commie liberals are trying to empty our Churches out!
Are there any Anglicans here? I’m trying to find a Church to go and worship at.
If it helps, I’m English and have been looking at either Anglicanism or Catholicism, I’m not baptised and am looking to further deepen my faith.
Protestant nations are richer and more prosperous the their Catholic counterparts. Really makes you think...
>baptism isn't part of Jesus' teachings
That's because it costs more to be heterosexual.
Is there a better alternative to e-Sword? I'm happy with it, I just want to see if there's anything better for somebody working toward fluency.
>worldly standards
Meaningless
Try living without them, and then report back.
then why is the vatican so concerned with the fiscal polity of the holy see, would not the church's outreach ride on the merit of its morals alone? why the penny pinching?
This, why were the investing in the production of the Elton John movie and apparently many others through a vatican bank program for profiting off of Satanic Babylonian filth?
What are you even saying
Well, Catholic places are less economically successful because there is less drive for it, because being homosexual costs less. To be heterosexual requires living in a place that is prosperous and advanced enough to create containment zones called "cities", and then the heterosexual can afford to buy a nice piece of land far enough away and start beefing up defenses in case of attack. All the other side needs is makeup and hair products, which is far less expensive on the whole.
Christianity and science coexist perfectly well.
Biblehub and the ESVSB.
There are a few of us. The main difference between the two is that Roman Catholics believe in the infallibility of the Pope, at least until the last 50 years. Either church will be happy for you to rock up and learn more.
Keep track of what you've read so you can read it all.
>why isn't the bible #1 in Yea Forums's top 100?
It is.
>Satan bribes you with wealth and then leads your countries to atheism
>this means revolutionism good
The meek shall inherit the earth.
I just realized that according to the Bible, the first murderer was a Jew
News flash: according to the Bible, the first everything was "a Jew".
I haven't actually used that yet, is it any good or worth using?
Where was Cain called a Jew in the Bible?
The word "Jew" or "Jews" isn't even present in the first 11 books of the Bible.
>greed good
KYS
>For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
>Romans 2:28-29 KJVAAE
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>For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
>Philippians 3:3 KJVAAE
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>KJVAAE
Is this like LGBTAAIPQ++, where you just keep extending the acronym?
I'm currently using a Thomas Nelson translation study bible, however, I definitely prefer the KJV for liturgy
>what was the first Bible you read and which is your favourite translation?
Guess I'll actually answer op.
First bible I ever read I guess technically was those picture bibles with the summary of a story from the Bible for kids
First real Bible I ever got was KJV (looked at it the other day, could've swore it was NKJV). Have always used a kjv since though I do sometimes open up an niv if I'm having trouble understanding a verse.
I read kjv for the poetic language, but I have also not found one that I think is any better translation wise.
>I'm currently using a Thomas Nelson translation study bible
They have their own translation now? What's it called?
Seems publishing houses are developing their own Bible translations more and more frequently
Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
Titus 1:15 KJVAAE
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The Thomas Nelson translation is the NKJV, is it not? From back in the 80s?
Ah it seems so, didn't know it was them.
>god
user if you ask me I think you're being acted upon by evil entities trying to keep your natural desire for God suppressed. Can't be too careful in this age of apostasy and evil.
I like KJV, but any translation that keeps the richness of the older tongues is nice. I imagine God speaking with "ye" and "thou", so thematically it helps me center and focus on the material.
Figured out why Christianity is dying lads - there are literally no good non-Evangelical online resources related to it. Fucking lazy stuck in the stone age churches. I can find more comprehensive information and discussion about hand-drawn fetish doujins and random pre-internet sportsball games than the 2,000 year old church of 2 and a half billion people.
>no Pidgin bible
Absolute heathen pleb.
Agreed, the online resources for Catholicism are weak compared to counterparts. EWTN is the closest thing to it but they aren’t officially “The Church”. The best thing is so attend mass and read physical books I guess.
How do I begin the conversion to Catholicism? My parents took me to mass for a year when I was very young but before I ever did my RCIA or got baptized they left the church and took me with(probably 4 or 5 years old). Now I’m 27 and want to go back.
Translation based on the Gottingen Septuagint when?
Talk to a priest. Drop by a local church during daylight hours, or look up your diocese's pastoral center (or whatever its called in your area). They should have someone on staff to direct you, and most likely a priest to welcome you. If you were been baptized a Catholic, and if you desire it, stop by your local church on Saturday -- check its website/newsletter for days/hours, but most places do Saturday afternoon -- and go to confession. You only need be baptized, of sufficient age (you are), and repentant of your sins. A good confession needs only be: number of sins, and kind of sins. Look up what mortal sins are, you should absolutely confess those. Don't be ashamed, God loves you. A typical confession may look like:
>On two occasions I lied for personal gain.
>On one occasion I consented to an abortion.
>On many occasions (if you don't know, or there's too many) I committed a sin of lust (ie, objectification of a human body part, ie consuming pornography)
>On many occasions I committed the sin of drunkenness.
Etc etc. The important thing is you are actually repentant for all of them, even the ones you honestly can't remember. You don't have to confess if you don't want to, but you really should. If you don't like the priest you don't have to. If he asks you to confess to him face to face in an open room, that is not legal according to the code of canon law. Go to another priest.
Good luck user, and God is with you.
I should add: yeah, you'll go through RCIA.
Kids don't, they go through a much longer catechism process before being sacramentally confirmed around age 12-13.
So exciting user, I hope you come back.
>Gottingen Septuagint
Always sounded like a meme to me. The Rahlf's isn't good enough for """scholars""" but it's good enough for the German BIble Society to sell it to the laity alongside the NA28 which apparently is also for """scholars"""?
Thank you user. I have so many sins I’ve lost track of them. So lost that there’s sins that have become second nature I it doesn’t even register to myself that it’s a sin…
If you have not been baptized, set that up ASAP. Like today. Now if possible.
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Forgive those who have sinned against you.