I'm going to learn Japanese

I clicked the link. It's pornography. Very clever, user. Now how about some helpful suggestions.

If you're too retarded to use other boards I don't know what to tell you.

What a boring wannabe jannie. This is a book thread on the book board. Give me books.

You will fail. But your a frogposter so imagine you're used to failure.

Kanji for Beginners - Akira Fukisuki
The Art of Conversational Japanese - Tojiro Mazafaka
Basic Japanese Grammar - Ryoka Misohoni

Anons want me to fail. They don't even want my thread to exist. What a cruel and heartless bunch.
Except , a fine chap he!

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I want you to succeed too user! learn Japanese then share your experience and knowledge with us.

Thanks user! What about dictionaries, which should I go for?
I already know a little kanji, well at least hanzi... same thing, no? I've learnt about 2000 and am gonna try to reach 3500 over the next few months. Learning the Japanese pronunciations of them will be annoying... do the meanings vary much?

do core2.3k and watch easy anime with memento, 2-3 months in also start some entry-level vn with texthooker. do X>1.5h of immersion and mining every day as well as Y

Damn, you must be dumber than OP

>Fukisuki
>Mazafaka
>Misohoni

Yes these are definitely real names. Well done

>watch easy anime with memento
what's memento?
thanks for the answers btw.

>Fukisuki
Ohhh

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github.com/ripose-jp/Memento

I guess this link is better ripose-jp.github.io/Memento/

Making Sense of Japanese by Jay Rubin
A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar
I don't remember the exact name but you can find the pdf online, it's basically a list of kanjis and radicals by Kodansha. You're not going to learn a lot of words but it might be helpful to skim through the pdf to pick up common kanjis and their readings.

That looks really cool.

These appear to be real books. Thanks!
Oh how I regret sending a text to my mom asking her to buy me that Misohoni book above.

Urusai baka gaijin kaeru.

Learn Chinese instead, it’s exactly the same language but more people speak it

you are being quite a prick to OP for no good reason but that was funny

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Studied Japanese for two years for 8 hours a day about two years ago.

What helped me get started was the Japanese from Zero video series on YouTube.
Watch the videos first then rewatch while taking notes.
After that we want to get more advanced.
>A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar by Seiichi
That book is really good.
Along with that, start using Anki to learn the Kanji stroke order (there is one deck where it’s color coded and numbered) along with vocabulary.

After that, you should be able to figure out what you need to do next.
You can study the Hiragana and Katakana separately which is what I did but JFZ already covers it so it’s not completely necessary.

I unironically stopped watching Anime to pursue Japanese but because of that, I stopped having a reason to study Japanese which is why I gave it up. Hopefully you have a more noble reason for studying Japanese rather than studying to watch Anime with subs uwu.

Good luck user.

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Since it’s in the photo, Remembering the Kanji and other books similar that focus on Kanji are a complete waste of time.
They are beginner traps, trust me, I’ve fallen for them.
You’ll see them shilled on Reddit by people who studied Japanese for 3 months and watch one Abroad in Japan video but I promise you that you will be wasting your time.

Fuck off to Yea Forums, loser

I'm ashamed to say I've never watched an anime. But the video player thing user above rec'd looks great.
My goal isn't to become super fluent in the language or anything. More so I just wanna know my way around it for research purposes, which is why a good dictionary would be a useful purchase. Like for example: if I see a passage, I'd know how to pronounce it all and know a little about Japanese sentence structure, so even if I don't know the meaning of all words, I'd be able to quickly consult a dictionary and piece together the meaning.

That shouldn’t take too long.
Learning the Kana (hiragana and katakana) would take you a long way.
I still recommend learning the stroke order for the Kanji since there is a website that lets you write the Kanji but if you write it with the incorrect stroke order, it’ll likely give you a different Kanji.
Idk, I still recommend the JFZ and the Basic Grammar book even if you’re trying to have a very basic level of understanding.
After that is when you could decide if you want to pursue deeper but you’ll pretty much know what to do at that point.

This is all you need
itazuraneko.neocities.org/

>learning Japanese
why? are you moving there user?

If you're reading online, I'd recommend you download rikaikun. It gives you dictionary definitions whenever you highlight a word. I was able to read No Longer Human with almost no kanji knowledge using it.
Also I recommend watching variety shows over anime. Gaki no Tsukai is funny even if you don't understand Japanese, and they use subtitles a lot.

Read visula novels and porn

hahahahahahahaha
you guys are terrible

hajimemashite senpai

itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html#Introduction
First, memorize kana (hiragana and katakana)
Second, work the core 2k deck on anki
Third, start immersing with easy japanese in slice of life manga/anime since the vocab they use is close to everyday life (in contrast to other anime that use highly specific vocab like Demon Slayer)

If you have an android/android emulator, download a cracked version of Memrise. Their Japanese course teaches you a lot of the high frequency words/phrases (which will help you even more in the long run during immersion) out of the mouths of native Japanese speakers instead of robotic voices

Forgot to mention grammar.
Look up Cure Dolly (RIP) on yt.

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It's going to be much more difficult than you think.

Genki
Japanese the Manga Way

Not really.
It’s not any harder than learning to play an instrument. Without true passion and interest, you’ll quit anyway regardless if it’s Japanese or any other skill.
There’s nothing particularly difficult about learning Japanese. Like most other skills, it’s going to take about 2-3 years before you start to have some desirable results and over 5 years (I am not at this level currently but I’ve heard this from someone who studied JPN for this long) to achieve a high level of understanding in Japanese.

I don’t really appreciate it when people try to be discouraging and point out every reason as to why or how something is going to be difficult as opposed to showing them how much fun they are going to have learning the language—as I did.

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Don’t listen to the negativity OP you can do it!
Learning Japanese can be a lot of fun if you study using media that you enjoy. Though it’s really tough in the beginning it gets easier every day and that feeling of progress is really satisfying.
Like other anons have said, you should with kana and then get through some core 2k Anki deck. I also recommend spending a lot of time with verb conjugations early on to make sure you have them completely down. Know each verb form and how to get to it from every different verb ending in basic form (る、つ、う、ぶ、む、く、ぐ). This is one of those points that you just need to internalize through repetition but is absolutely essential for you to tell what you’re hearing when listening to Japanese.
After this you should start an Anki deck with words or sentences that you mine from consuming Japanese media. The Anki integration function of yomichan can be very helpful for this.
I also highly recommend Making Sense of Japanese by Jay Rubin once you have some experience under your belt. It’s a great explanation of some of the more confusing points in Japanese grammar.

Just use duolingo

>It’s not any harder than learning to play an instrument.
that's a bit of a misdirection because learning to play your first instrument is a brutal amount of work and takes years of regular practise

Anons is it even worth learning the language if all I'm interested in is reading haikus?
I don't give a fuck about anime and other than some vacation travel I would like to do I don't ever want to live in Japan and have no interest in meeting Japanese people. It would also be totally useless in my career field, so I wouldn't even put it in my cv if I ever got an official certificate.
I would probably read authors like Mishima, Dazai or Kawabata if I reached a good enough level, but all I'm truly interested on is the poetry, mainly haiku (tanka would also be worth reading I guess).
I'm just a huge poetry nerd and from what I could read on haiku I think they might be the more elegant and perfected form of poetry ever conceived. I read Blyth's four season books on haikus and I enjoyed them immensely.
I can read poetry at least semi-comfortably in English, French, Italian and Spanish. I'm planning on studying German and Latin in the future, maybe Sanskrit and Ancient Greek if I ever achieve financial independence and can fuck off my job.

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Lol

No books no advice
You cannot learn Japanese
Gaijin please give up

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Yeah, RIP. Ruined my whole day when I heard Cure Dolly Sensei had passed.

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>Stein's Gate
oh no no no no no

you are not gonna be able to read jackshit for a while - unironically stick to anime
learn hiragana and katakana
work your way up the kanji latter (go buy elementary school kanji practice books)

>unironically stick to anime
I meant manga

please start playing Shogi also, I need more westerners to play against

anime is preferable manga at the beginning, because 1. anime subtitles can be directly hooked into and looked up with Yomichan vs. having to use OCR, 2. manga uses more contractions which don't even come up with Yomichan and need to be looked up manually, leading to wasted time. but that's just for first 2-3 months. then it's best to venture out to keep things fresh (I'm currently juggling 3 anime, 2 vns, 4 mangas and 2 lns)

>learning to play your first instrument is a brutal amount of work and takes years of regular practise
What is a recorder

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