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Was The Way of Kings really the best Sanderson had to offer? Sad, really.
Which book will Sandersonfags deflect to now?
What do we think of this?
>lord of mysteries
Who's the autist that keeps shilling this shit?
its good but you're dopamine addiction won't let you enjoy it
web novels are for dopamine addicts
If a story doesn't describe the protagonist's appearance within the first few chapters i drop it.
I have actually considered reading it but I find it very difficult to get into web novels.
How specific does it have to be? What if the author is trying to keep it vague for self inserters?
>he dropped bastion
ngmi
>Conan the Barbarian
>Kull of Atlantis
>Solomon Kane
>Bran Mak Morn
>El Borak
Robbie E Howard knew how to pick names.
skin/hair/eye color are all very important. Anything other than that is of lesser importance. Otherwise it's really annoying to picture the mc in my head.
If GERM were working towards a typical fantasy ending he would have finished the series years ago. He WANTS to have a GOTTA SUBVERT DEM EXPECTATIONS ending because that's what the entire series has been about, but he has absolutely no idea how to do that in a way that isn't completely retarded AND completely obvious.
>Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear
>[Bear Bear Bear] Bear
You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. And that much is obvious to everyone.
whoever recommended City at the End of TIme, thank you, it's fucking great
based happy reader
>inspired by and shares plot elements with The Night Land
Oh cool, I have to check out Greg Bear. Seems like he's done a lot of novels, and a big variety too.
I started the way of kings and have a few questions. Every chapter so far (up to chapter 4) has this weird intro of recording someone with a date and time. Should I be keeping track of that/is it relevant info? Also, I'm kinda lost on locations on what's happening where. Hell, the map they give us at the beginning I havent used once yet. Should I be keeping track on that too? I'm just going through the motions of reading it right now, not knowing why I'm reading about a specific person, or where they are.
sandersnoy just loves epigraphs
yeah the Forge of God is pretty good
IIRC dates don't have much importance in the series, but maybe there was some time dependant storyline. Nothing important enough to remember, though.
Shame he offed himself like a bitch.
I'm sorry, but it's true. You can continue being an ignorant fanboy, but you gotta accept the fact sooner or later that he's never going to finish the series for the reasons I stated.
>Should I be keeping track of that/is it relevant info?
Don't bother keeping track. This is explained later and the details won't matter.
>Also, I'm kinda lost on locations on what's happening where.
Exact geography isn't important either. However, you should at least know generally which city or province the characters are within. If you can't follow that, then you need to pay closer attention. There are a bunch of flashbacks too. I hope you aren't confusing time as well. Pay attention to time.
>Should I be keeping track of that/is it relevant info
Almost everything you dont understand at first in Stormlight will be explained eventually, if not in that book then the next. When something you dont understand comes up, you really just need to read and you will soon find out all the answers.
No, it's just what hacks do to create the illusion of depth and history to their flat world. A lot of YA readers are dumb children, as they conflate superfluous details for actual worldbuilding.
Bisoromi Bear
>people arguing about sanderson shit
it's YA fiction you autists, start your own general
I still have no fucking clue what Scorio looks like. It's actually kind of fascinating how he managed to completely avoid describing Scorio in any factor whatsoever beyond "kinda tall" and "male".
I've spent months deferring the books on my reading list which are supposed to be the best because it never feels like the right time, how do I stop being such a retard?
dude no one ever gets through their reading lists
I don't have a reading list because there's fuck all to read.
“Everyone…” Fang Zheng observed the surroundings, seeing the concerned pairs of eyes, and felt extremely touched.
Everyone…
Everyone has expectations of me.
My classmates, uncle, aunt, Shen Cui, and sir clan leader!
Everyone is waiting for me, looking at me, supporting me……
How can I lose? How can I fall here? How can I!
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
His heart pounded in his chest, and Fang Zheng’s eyes shone with brilliance.
I cannot fall here!
I will dispel the shadow and stand up!!
Fang Zheng’s fists were tightly clenched, no longer feeling any pain at this point. He felt a lion in his chest, awakening from its sleep and opening its huge mouth to roar!
Hot-blood boiled in his body.
Stand up, stand up!
Break the shadows, break the darkness!
“ARGHHHHHHHHH!” Fang Zheng opened his mouth wide to shout, his body starting to emit a green jade light.
“What’s that?” The crowd silenced.
“Jade Skin Gu!” Someone shouted.
Bam!
The students roared towards the heavens.
“Fang Zheng, you can do it!”
“Fang Zheng, we have your back!”
Finally only one last cheer remained —”Stand up! Stand up!”
“Everyone….. I can hear your voices.” Fang Zheng clenched his fist, his teeth almost crushed. Fang Yuan’s pressure was no longer so imposing, he could finally get up, slowly and steadily.
The shouting intensified.
“He’s burning with anger!!”
“He’s going to do a comeback.”
Gu Masters hearing such cheers and excitement from the crowd, were all starting to feel moved.
“That’s right, Fang Zheng, that’s right! Stand up, stand up, abandon the past, dispel the shadow and stand up, you will become a new person!” Clan leader’s eyes shone with bright light as he cheered Fang Zheng on in his heart.
“Jade Skin Gu…” Fang Yuan’s eyelids drooped. He pulled back his leg and saw Fang Zheng stand up slowly, the Jade Skin Gu’s radiance turning his face green.
Fang Zheng had always been hiding this trump card up till now and did not reveal it to anyone, thus nobody knew about it.
“Fang Zheng got up!” The crowds’ cheers exploded.
“He stood up!” Clan leader was moved, uncontrollably standing up from his seat. At this moment, he saw the rise of an A grade talent! He saw the future of the Gu Yue clan!
“I stood up, brother, I will defeat you!” Fang Zheng’s eyes burned with determination, his entire body enveloped in bright green light like he was wear a jade armor!
Didn't ask.
“Oh wow, this defense, even the moonblade can’t pierce it. It seems Fang Zheng wins.” Yao Hong raised her brows, blowing a whistle.
“Indeed, even with the Little Light Gu’s reinforcement, hitting on this barrier, it would only cause Fang Zheng’s primeval essence to be consumed faster. But comparing primeval essence expenditure, Fang Yuan is no match for Fang Zheng. After this match, Fang Zheng is going to rise!” Qing Shu laughed lightly.
“Fang Zheng had a Jade Skin Gu, but only used it now. It seems Fang Yuan’s earlier attacks confused him. But now, victory is already waving towards him.” Mo Yan folded her arms, her gaze slightly uncertain.
Time seem to have paused.
On the stage, the brothers faced each other.
The two’s distance was so close yet so far.
Fang Zheng’s firm determination, Fang Yuan’s eternal indifference.
“Little brother…” He looked at Fang Zheng peacefully, his lips curling into a smirk, “Thinking of defeating me, you’re still far from it.”
He raised his right hand, his right arm flexing, pulling into a bow shape.
“Big brother, you’ve lost!” Fang Zheng felt amused in his heart seeing Fang Yuan’s raised fist.
As long as he had primeval essence, even with the Little Light Gu’s reinforcement, the moonblade could not break the jade colour barrier, not to mention his fist? Unless he used the Flower Boar Gu or the Brute Force Longhorn Beetle Gu to raise his strength. But even so, he would need a defensive type Gu……
Fang Yuan did not say anything, but he used his fist to give the most straightforward answer.
The next moment, the right fist flew in the air and hit Fang Zheng harshly on the cheeks.
Bam!
After a loud crash, blood spilled as the jade light smashed to bits like broken mirror fragments dancing in the sky before vanishing.
“What?!” Fang Zheng was hit by such a shock once again, and after a stunned moment, his neck was almost broken as he hurriedly retreated.
Fang Yuan followed up closely, using a bow step and raising his left fist, pulling back and striking again upwards!
Bam!!
Fang Zheng’s other half of his face was hit by the impact, his head rising high up with blood and broken jade light flying in the air.
Bam, bam, bam!
He took three steps backwards, his ears buzzing as a dizziness ten times greater than before assaulted him.
“How can this… be!” His vision darkened, and he collapsed on the arena —
Plop.
Fang Zheng fell on the ground, the light dissipating on his body as he fainted in the next moment.
The shouts and cheers came to an abrupt end.
The happy, excited expressions of the students were still glued on their faces, unable to change due to such a shock.
The entire arena was silent.
New Mage Errant today. More underage gay sex with a subplot of magic advancement.
Do you only read top bestselling authors that you hear about on other social aggregates?
No. Actually I read a truly enormous amount of self published garbage, but I'm scratching the bottom of the bucket even on that. My most recent read was Paranoid Mage, which was surprisingly good. There was also Saving Supervillains which was more coomer but also kept me going. But alongside that there's plenty that's just irredeemably bad.
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>a new character is introduced
>the author doesn't immediately describe the character's appearance in full detail while also providing their backstory from birth to the present day
A quick once-over broad description is generally enough to fit a face together, though more important characters should generally have a bit more thorough description that you get piecemeal, so we can actually understand what the fuck people look like.
gotta say, deep into vol2 and i'm really starting to like APGTE.
I keep meaning to read that and a lot of other webnovels, but I mostly read on my phone. Guess I could just use the browser to do that, but it feels less readable that way. Maybe I should just knuckle down and do it because some seem real good.
>Ching Ding glared petulantly at the jade lotus flower. It represented all that he hated of XiChong Empire, of Mo Lee Ping, and most of all, himself.
You can use the secret technique of pushing CTRL and + at the same time, making the text as big as you want. Damn, Royalroad even allows for text and webpage customization (picrel)
>gotta say, deep into vol2 and i'm really starting to like APGTE.
Vol 1 of PGTE is very average, the next one is better and has some good moments, then the third is liked but was a slog for me. Then Vol 4 is okay I think, but keep in my mind that 5 or 6 volume has a horrible (as in extremely boring and almost unreadable, but also with some annoying consequences) arc that made a lot of people quit, I just dropped it some time after.
I meant reading on the phone browser. I admittedly haven't checked APGTE to see how well-formatted it is for that (only thing I've really read on a phone browser was Warbreaker and it was... Fine) but it's never quite as solid as reading on Kindle or whatnot.
>read The First Law
>it's good
>read the standalone books
>it's great except for the last one
>read the Age of Madness
>mfw it went full reddit and is barely enjoyable
Is Joe Abercrombie burnt out?
He has about four characters he recycles and they're all shit
Just finished the Prince of Nothing trilogy by Bakker.
Am I supposed to be this angry at the complete lack of twists and turns? Everything went exactly as expected, Kellhus wins everything, the Holy War succeeds, yadda yadda. I'm reading Aspect Emperor now and hoping things might actually change at some point.
Also, Conphas deserved better, Zin was a bitch, and Cnaiur is best boy. Akka, the whore, and Kellogs can all fuck off.
I haven't read 'normal books' for years, so can someone who reads books year 2000-2010 and earlier remind whether describing character faces is common? From webnovels I can't recall a single instance of someone describing face features beyond eyes color, some distinct marks and hair shape and color. But I recall reading a lot of books that went into describing faces in details, as in cheek bones, face shapes, distance between things, ethnicity. I always ignored that because I'm bad at imagining faces, but only now I realized how strange it is that webnovels don't do that.
Typically you just paint broad strokes. If a character has a notably angular or round face it should be pointed out, but going into absurd detail is counterproductive because people will form their own picture regardless.
You can paint a picture very quickly with a very brief description
>A jolly, round faced man with ruddy skin and red hair done in braids
Faces aren't usually described except in the broad sense lately it feels like (sharp, angular features, wide-faced, round-faced, etc.), it's more the surrounding details so the reader can fill in the picture themselves.
don't forget shit like "a petulant mouth" or "a generous mouth"
That's more used to describe how they talk rather than how they look.
I am a bit more than halfway through Against the Darkness. I enjoy that despite sometimes telling us that the Gray Mouser is kind of a scumbag here and there, Leiber neves has to do the modern sequence where he dwells on it for pages to try and make us feel conflicted, it's just written straight to keep in our minds. I've gotten too burnt out on the opposite. Likewise I don't quite know what it was around the 400 page mark that made the whole collection feel a lot smoother and enjoyable to read, perhaps that a part of it is that there's more dialogue between Fafhrd and Mouser to make their friendship feel a bit more lived in, or that the city becomes even more of a character in neater pices of prose? Anyone else had the same experience?
i don't know about a petulant mouth but "a generous mouth" is a physical descriptor. i know because i googled it before making my post and i just got done reading lyonesse where he uses phrases like that to describe characters when they're introduced a lot
That feels more like a specific author's quirks than a particular description style.
i like vague descriptions. what i don't like is when they use 'cheekbones' to describe someone's looks.
i can never really imagine what the fuck it is supposed to describe and when i try, it is always uglier than it needs to be.
>muh high cheekbones
what does? usage of phrases like that? like i said, a generous mouth is definitely a physical descriptor
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i'm positive i've seen it elsewhere as well, lyonesse is just fresh in my mind and that's why i used it as an example. i suppose it's not impossible for "elsewhere" to just be the dying earth, vance's other most popular work but i don't think so.
you haven't encountered this phrasing before?
Not once, no. If something were to describe that, I'd usually see "full lips" or "plush lips" or something like that.