The most important book in human history
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King James. “There can only be one”
That makes sense. I thought there was a mistake.
Most important book is The Antichrist because it destroyed the last most important book.
>mediocre version of the bible that strips away the human history and slingshoots the prophet to great richness instead of providing meaningful spirituality and morality
Greatest con in human history.
This was the worst book I ever read. Total waste of time. Read the Pali Canon instead, the first four Nikayas are 7000+ pages, Qur'an is like 507 pages.
all wrong. this is the real answer. no memeing.
>instead of providing meaningful spirituality and morality
lol the quran is very spiritual and moral
Don't make me laugh.
>kill infidels
Sure very moral
Low effort meme garbage.
BTFO'd by Leibniz
What's immoral is that the guy preaching is rich and wealthy and fucks. He lives a materialistic life. A spiritual person learns to overcome all of those things.
The Quran is terrible literature.
Prophets are protected from sinning in Islam and thus it is righteous to follow Muhammad his example. This is not rocket science.
It's pretty obvious all these Abrahamic lies were started by people who were sexually abused as children. Just like that other homosexual bastard of Judea.
>spiritual
>yooooo we imported demons but we call them jins haha :)
>moral
>do as I say or else!
Nah
I can't tell if you're promoting Islam or not. You do not want to follow his example, believe me.
It's definitely important in the sense of providing a unifying cultural basis for a large and continually growing swathe of humanity. However, it's obviously derivative of the Bible. No Bible, no Qur'an. If it somehow manages to become the central text of all of humanity and remains so for an extended period of time, being the spiritual and metaphysical framework for overarching developments in all areas of human activity, the case can be made for it being the most important book of all time. This battle, or rather jihad, is still on going and we shall see how it pans out. Right now, the Western world, while technologically superior, is beginning to show serious cracks in its societal tissue, which could be exploited by Islam. I don't know if I would like to see it achieve in that though.
Will you start quoting unauthentic hadith now?
With the advent of the internet and global access to it, it will be dead within this century. I guarantee it.
It is worse to promote victim consciousness and weakness than to be a pedophiliac war mongerer.
Industrialization was an outgrowth of certain elements of Christianity, and it was the biggest mistake in this world.
Brother, you do not want to die on this hill. I don't care enough to educate you. I've learned the Quran through laughter.
How do you operate in the world with such a low IQ?
Also Dharmic and Far Eastern traditions are better than both of those.
I'm just claiming that Islam is undeniably better than Christianity. That doesn't mean Islam is good though.
There's no debate here unless you have an agenda.
Watch Jago: A Life Underwater. It's on Amazon.
What's important is being self-reliant, strong-willed, and living off the land.
There has not been a single positive thing from technological "innovation".
The problem with both Christianity and Shia is they add a guilt complex ontop of their Abrahamic dogma, which leads to many convoluted problems arise. This is why I say Sunni is marginally better.
Empty threats as expected from a kafir.
>arise
arising*
If you embraced the technological-industrial order, then you are no longer Muslim.
>What's important is being self-reliant, strong-willed, and living off the land.
>There has not been a single positive thing from technological "innovation".
I don't disagree.
>The problem with both Christianity and Shia is they add a guilt complex ontop of their Abrahamic dogma, which leads to many convoluted problems arise. This is why I say Sunni is marginally better.
Are you afraid of morality? Do you not want to feel shame being a degenerate?
You're both wrong.
It seemed to me to be a rule book for people who think daily rituals are somehow the same as being faithful. The spirituality of Islam is more akin to financial transactions and dick-measuring contests than it it true expressions of faith.
>Are you afraid of morality
Dude, you can have morality without endless guilt over things you weren't responsible over.
>Do you not want to feel shame being a degenerate?
There's a difference between feeling shame over being a degenerate versus guilt over things you weren't responsible about, like Original Sin or "betrayal of Ali". One is about improving oneself, the other saps out joy in living and weakens one's strength.
Care to elaborate or will you run away?
Christianity is dead.
Islam is alive and healthy.
I have an entire list of theological problems and contradictions, friend. I'll offer you one example:
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satan was misled by allah, therefore allah is the cause of satan's actions.
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Why is allah saying satan only has authority over evil-doers if allah had preordained that they'd be led astray in the first place?
I'll give you another simple one:
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Quran comes to him in the sound of a bell.
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But the bell is the musical instrument of the Satan.
I have many more, but this should suffice. Perhaps you'll enter cope mode as is natural, but I've done the work for you already, don't waste time with this cult.
The Koran makes it clear you must submit to your God based on your own autonomy, and technological-industrial order inevitability strips autonomy and serves as a barrier to your God. If you embrace technology as a Muslim, then you are no longer a Muslim and worship a false god.
It is preferable to be inbred and low IQ than to embrace the technological-industrial order. This is why I prefer Islam over Christianity: it's regressive elements would have prevented industrialization except Shia because something about its emphasis victim consciousness would have likewise led to industrialization.
>Dude, you can have morality without endless guilt over things you weren't responsible over.
I don't have guilt for things I haven't done.
>Original Sin
We believe in ancestral sin, not original sin. Man's nature is not inherently sinful nor was it designed that way. I think your problem lies in the fact that you have only been exposed to false "Christianity".
I've become a fan of this book only recently...
>>Massive tome with many sources
>>Decodes the Bible
>>Exposes false actors through history
>>Details events in an unbiased way
>>Scientifically proves God's existence
>>Intricate detail of the human body and how to raise consciousness through prayer and action to connect with God
I'm not even done with it yet and it's changed my life
You're the same guy from the other thread and you copy-pasted the same post from that thread and put it here. Stop it, it's sad. You're not even white dude-
You can reinterpret Christianity to not have the problems I am referring to. If everyone were living like the Amish, we wouldn't be in this mess.
I don't accept any Abrahamic dogma, but you realize Islam can be reinterpreted to remove a lot of what you consider negative too (e.g., Sufism).
All I'm claiming is that the mindset that led to industrialization is worse than anything present in the world, and we need to analyze and figure out what that mindset, which isn't easy.
I didn't copy paste anything, and I actually have something to argue, you identity politics obsessed faggot. I don't give a shit about race when we're all going to become even bigger slaves in the Fourth Industrial Revolution, you altright fag. Your entire movement was engineered by glowies from the beginning, and soon it's going to be about genetic engineering shit with retarded on YT endlessly debating it. Everything is just a fad with you.
Christianity is a real spiritual tradition dead or alive. Islam is devoid of faith a spirituality, it's a set of rules made to appeal to egoists. The reason why it's found success in today's world is not that it is opposed to our modern industrial world, but that it is compatible with it. The manner in which Mohammad's business background worked its way into his religion's doctrine make it more perfect for capitalists societies than Protestantism could have ever hoped to be.
I'm not reinterpretting anything, you just have a bad theological understanding of Christianity because you haven't studied or been exposed to it. You can have multiple sects of a religion but only one can be correct. If you want to hate on industrialisation, blame it on the godless West.
This is retarded. The differance between Salafism and Sufism is not a matter of guilt. Neither do I see how Shiism has anything to do with guilt. There is mourning over occurances such as Karbala, but not guilt.
>You can have multiple sects of a religion but only one can be correct.
If I remember correctly, plenty of people in various religions have believed it is possible for multiple sects to be good enough.
This is a contradictory position for these people to have. Don't use the fallacy of the masses.
It's not contradictory at all. I never said they believed that any of these people have argued that multiple sects are equally correct, only that those which agree on the most important issues are good enough to be considered legitimate practice of a faith. Only fools would demand perfection of men.
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All mourning implies guilt. I mourn for no human being but those who I am close to. I don't care about a Jew or Arab's internal disputes.
I was going off mainstream Catholic and Protestant interpretations.
I never said Salafism or Sufism have anything to do with guilt. Improve your reading comprehension.
You do not understand Kaczynski if you think Christianity is the problem.
Who cares what any of these "people" say? They're incorrect. If you believe in objective truth you must follow a single Church and condemn the others and their practices as false. Religion and pragmatism are incompatible.
>I was going off mainstream Catholic and Protestant interpretations.
Yes, you haven't been exposed to authentic Christianity. I accept your criticisms of Western "Christianity" and don't blame you for having misconceptions as most people do.
Kaczynski actually leaves it in the air in his manifesto. Near the end he says that there are four civilizational spheres: European, Islamic, Indian, and Far Eastern. They were about on equal civilizational terms in regards to over human trends until industrialization. Something about Europe became dynamic, which made it industrialize. I talk about it in the first two posts here:
>over human trends
overall human trends*
This desu. I look forward to the day that scholars take seriously the fact that people have been reading the Quran incorrectly for centuries. That day will never come, unfortunately, because to discredit the "holy book" of people who chop heads and drive trucks of peace requires balls and academics and politics don't have any of those.
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>The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran: A Contribution to the Decoding of the Language of the Koran is an English-language edition (2007) of Die syro-aramäische Lesart des Koran: Ein Beitrag zur Entschlüsselung der Koransprache (2000) by Christoph Luxenberg.
>The book received considerable attention from the popular press in North America and Europe at its release, perhaps in large part to its argument that the Quranic term Houri refers not to beautiful virgins in paradise (Jannah), but to grapes there.[1]
>The thesis of the book is that the text of the Quran was substantially derived from Syriac Christian liturgy, arguing that many "obscure" portions become clear when they are back-translated and interpreted as Syriacisms. While there is a scholarly consensus that the language of the Quran is influenced by Syro-Aramaic, Luxenberg's thesis goes beyond mainstream scholarly consensus and was widely received with skepticism in reviews.
What's the value in spreading secular values and having people become more "intelligent"? You realize you're rejecting one false god for another, correct? You realize the new God will probably live in cloud servers?
I was talking about that elsewhere, but you're not thinking in a holistic manner if you think things will improve by spreading secular values. Education is fundamentally a system of indoctrination. We are a part of a new system of god worship. Poetically speaking, we are bringing the Demiurge onto Earth. Look up Solid State Intelligence from John C. Lily.
We must destroy the technological-industrial system before it's too late. Your children literally have no future and I say this with absolute conviction.
>implying I am a neoliberal secular tranny faggot who equates chopping tits and dicks off with "progress"
There is value in spreading Catholic virtues.
>You realize the new God will probably live in cloud servers?
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>tedpilled wannabe-schizo user #523715
Thanks for clarifying, your OP didn't make much sense.
I know a bit about this. The leading theory is that Islam was originally an anti-trinitarian/heretical sect of Christianity. The Muslims used the Nazarean texts that were given to the Arabs and attempted to translate Syriac texts into Arabic with an anti-Christian agenda in mind; introducing new, false doctrine.
Jesus didn't even exist. Muhammad didn't either. Abrahamic filth should just stay in its own civilizational sphere.
>there's no analog in the Bible
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>The leading theory is that Islam was originally an anti-trinitarian/heretical sect of Christianity.
Yeah. Exactly like Talmudic Judaism, which was stood up around the same time as Islam. Their entire premise is to stand in opposition to Christians. These religions didn't exist when Christians were outlawed and underground, they didn't need to.
You're correct, but it is inevitable and a necessity that these things will pass. It will get worse before it gets better.
It's possible that all Abrahamic traditions were established by extraterrestrials or a sentient AI that communicates with us from the future and most of mankind's chronology is made up. Hypostatic union is like mankind's union with the machine. The worship of one God is like the worship of data interpreter by machine learning algorithms stored like cloud servers like Amazon AWS and Microsoft Azure databases. Nature and Leben are being supplanted by technology and Geist.
They may fake Jesus' resurrection with advanced secret holographic technology. I know geo-engineering is real now, so "progress" in holographic technologies like blue beam may make great headway that's kept confidential too.
Nothing is going to get better unless every single last technological device is destroyed, power grids disrupted, every single science text book burned, internet destroyed, etc. I have a hard time believing the people who led to this current state of affairs are human beings.
Haven't you noticed all of the recent occult symbols in conjunction with transhumanist imagery in advertisements?
Nothing originates organically anymore. They will manufacture more fake narratives. Their ultimate goal is trap our souls. This may be the purpose of the machine.
It's possible that the elites and most Abrahamic history is just fiction and there's more going on in the background.
For this reason, I think ethnically cleansing the Jews in Minecraft and destroying every single last Abrahamic text may be necessary too.
I think there's something much more insidious going on the background, and I need time to organize my mind. There's no way this could have been done by mere human beings. We should not accept any Abrahamic dogma. All Abrahamic texts feel like predictive programming for the coming age of autonomous general intelligence (AGI). With the advancements in Memristor and Big Data, it may be possible. Things are "progressing" at a rate that is dangerous and much of it is kept hidden like stratospheric aerosol injection and HAARP technologies. I used to laugh at Singularitians, but I am starting to see there is some truth to what they say.