Book Stannis is a fucking moron. A whiny moron, at that. Always whining about how Robert didn't respect him and didn't give him Storm's End, and Renly didn't kneel to him as he should have and wah wah wah. Holy shit, what a pussy.
And he's a hypocrite too. In the same conversation he can brag about being just and respecting the laws, and a sentence later pressure Jon about breaking the law and giving him the Night Watch's castles, even though no king has the right to demand the Night Watch's properties.
Why does Yea Forums like this whiny faggot so much, again?
the castles were unused. they belonged to the night's watch and they did jack shit with them for like 100 years because they don't have the men to man them. stannis shows up with men to man them and jon gets all pissy about them belonging to the night's watch despite the fact that they have done nothing with them and can do nothing with them without stannis.
Christopher Rogers
he's literally us (severely autistic)
Leo Ramirez
>neglected >autistic >can't talk to women >has hard rules about justice he's literally me
Alexander Stewart
>Why does Yea Forums like this whiny faggot so much, again?
>Good general >most law-abiding ruler in westeros >doesn't want to rule, but knows there's no else competent enough to do it well and fairly, so takes that duty upon himself >isn't arrogant, vain and cunning like the lannister >isn't a genetic abomination like targs and cercei's children >is a Baratheon (chaddest bloodline in the setting) >actually gives a fuck about the Others
gee I truly wonder why book readers that aren't rainbow haired faggots like this guy
Stannis didn't simply want to man them (which Jon happily agreed to). He wanted to confiscate them from the Night Watch (unlawful) and then give them as rewards to his southern lords (huge no-no in the north, which would have made all northerners his enemies).
So he was both hypocritical and stupid.
Elijah Russell
How could you not root for Stannis and Davos?
Blake Clark
Why did he have to be turned into a homo faggot rapist who rapes men's asses, bros?
>most law-abiding ruler in westeros Except he's a huge hypocrite who tries to break the law whenever it's convenient for him. All the while preaching that "laws must be like iron and I'm so just and fair why won't people love me wah wah".
Luis Diaz
Davos was a cool character. Unironically a better man than Stannis and would've been a better king.
He's a hypocrite and arrogant as fuck. Also quite obtuse. His only redeeming qualities are that he realize that the Others are the real enemy and that legally he's the lawful heir.
Grayson Cooper
>been reading asoiaf recently because something spurred an interest back in it >currently on A Clash of Kings >Read about Renly forming a Rainbow Guard He so fucking would call it that.
Luis Parker
>isn't arrogant Let's a cult have undue influence over him up and believes he's literally the messiah.
and stannis explained that he had to give his southern lords something otherwise they'd abandon the cause. he can't just expect them all to freeze their asses off on the wall for nothing. they're not night's watchmen that are obligated to be there. it's unprecedented for a king to be so closely entangled to the night's watch and their property, but they live in unprecedented times where ice zombies are about to march south and kill everyone.
yeah it's a little too on the nose imo. the thing that confused me is at first it's explained that there were 7 rainbow guards, 1 for each color with their own colored cape, but then every time after the first mention they all have "rainbow cloaks". the former is cooler imo, but i guess if each had their own color they wouldn't be called the rainbow cloaks like the kingsguard are called the whitecloaks.
Lincoln Ortiz
>he had to give his southern lords something otherwise they'd abandon the cause. No yeah, I know he had reasons, but the point is that they're myopic, obtuse reasons. Giving the northern castles to southern lords would've turned the North against him. From neutral, it would have become actively hostile.
If he wanted to reward his lords, he should've given them castles and lands south of The Neck. Trying to infiltrate southern lords in the North was obviously not a viable strategy, nor a stable situation. The northerners would've been offended and restless, and would've revolted at the first chance, that's inevitable. Stannis should've understood this, but he's the type of obtuse individual who thinks "I'm da king so everyone must obey" and ends up stabbed for no good reason.
In the end, all Baratheons are fucking imbeciles. And Renly was also a faget.
Jaxon Wilson
Stannis has absolutely every single right to whine about those things you listed. He saved Robert's life at Storm's End and by every law in the land, his younger brother should have knelt before him. You can call it whining, but he was completely within his right to complain.
Lucas Howard
I can't imagine reading these books. It just seems like a total waste of my time. I'm tired all day so I really think people who read for amusement are just high energy sorts or have no work or life obligations.
Austin Sanchez
You only watched the show. In the books, he clearly doesn't trust Melisandre. His wife and her men are the R'hllor fanatics and Stannis puts up with it because he needs their support. If Shireen burns in the books, it will be done without his consent.
Charles Williams
Maybe you're just an illiterate retard
Easton Turner
What are weekends? Also:
>I'm tired all day
Lack of sleep, go to bed earlier
Easton Bell
>You can call it whining I call it whining because he cried about it every time he appeared. In every goddamn scene. One thing is giving the character a grievance to make his personality more nuanced, another is having him WHINE like a little bitch in every scene.
He also replies to every objection (even the most sensible ones) with "I'm the king but nobody does what I say wah wah". He's supposed to be strong, but he legit came off as a whiny insecure bitchy bitch.
Nathan Martinez
When I had a job that was devastating me mentally and physically and demanded 16 hours per day, I read at least 80 pages of fiction per day during the train commute. It's not about energy, you're just a pleb.
Noah Long
He doesn't trust her, but he still accepts her foreign religion and even bring Rh'llor's banners in battle instead of the Baratheon ones. So he's too weak to tell his wife to stfu. A little bitch.
Mason Ross
Renly sucked cocks hahaha
Josiah Gomez
Yes. Yes he did. And Stannis still manages to be the little bitch of the family.
Brayden Sanchez
No. See:
Ethan Roberts
Yes. See:
Carson Torres
Sounds like a bunch of you problems tee bee haytch
Josiah Jenkins
>It just seems like a total waste of my time. Are you implying that your time is too valuable for fiction, even good quality one? People who say this sort of shit are invariably worthless, talentless and useless, and try to hide that behind pretentiousness.
Xavier Gray
Rare case of something in the series being better than the book - Stephen Dillane's portrayal of Stannis was god-tier.
Sebastian Thompson
The thumbnail makes it look like stannis has a manbun kek.
Luis Perry
He was still a boring character, but less whiny so better.
Jace Fisher
>>>/sffg/
Lucas Moore
Shut the fuck up and suck a dick.
Jaxson Young
>people who read to relax are high energy I don't think you understand how relaxation works, user. You don't read something that's not amusing if you're drained and just want to be braindead for an hour before bed.
Asher Hernandez
Stannis was truly based in the books. Stannis the Mannis
Zachary Mitchell
You’re literally on Yea Forums
Liam Flores
>not the firstborn for less than a year >shorter than his brother >no charisma whatsoever >no physical strength worth mentioning >sullen and lame so nobody likes him >"I'm the rightful king! Why does everyone prefer my faggoty brother or a little incest baby to me? Respect my autoritah!" >born in a royal family but wife is ugly as fuck and almost barren >only child is an ugly daughter >meanwhile his brother sired bastards left and right >even the bastards are stronger and more charismatic than him >brother respects him so little that he violated his bridal bed by banging some prime noble jailbait and impregnating her too >doesn't even apologize for figuratively cucking him, instead gives Stannis' birthright to the faggoty little brother >doesn't even realize that by adopting the banner of a foreign cult he's alienating his lords >"Nooo why won't anyone do what I say? Melisandre help me! Burn someone!" >tries to storm King's Landing >fails >only one to help the Night's Watch >Jon Snow still denies his requests >moans like a little bitch but can't do anything about it >bald Yeah, so based...
Because Yea Forums is full of unpopular, unskilled, unimpressive losers just like Stannis
Camden Nguyen
samefag
Lucas Campbell
>>Read about Renly forming a Rainbow Guard >He so fucking would call it that. this is a coincidence apparently. george said he didn't know about the pride flag. the rainbow is supposed to represent the 7.
Eli Thomas
They cut out all the good lines. There was nothing to portray
Joseph Peterson
>You only watched the show No, I've read the books. What I said stands. Cope.
Ayden Nguyen
Then why are you lying user?
Henry Sullivan
no you
Juan Hughes
yes based because he's literally me
Jacob Bennett
>still ends up incredibly based despite being delt all those shitty cards how does he do it?
He's not though. Stannis might not trust Melisandre and not really believe he's the messiah, but he does let her foreign cult get way too much power and influence on his actions.
Luis Thomas
>being delt all those shitty cards Shitty cards?? He's literally of royal blood. He was born rich, politically powerful and healthy, and he STILL managed to fuck it up! He could've at least leveraged his insane good luck to get a hot wife, but no. He couldn't even do that.
Stannis is the Jeb Bush of Westeros. Born on third base, still manages to trip on nothing and fall to the ground face first. Not respected by his family or peers or by the common people, not liked, perceived as lame and weak, and with a gremlin wife who whips him to boot.
