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Thread Question: Let's say the impossible happens and your work gets discovered. You're the talk of the 'net, a bit hit on Amazon, and everyone wants to know about the mysterious author of this amazing new work. How do you respond? Stay anonymous but continue working? Go completely into hiding and never write again? Give the world the full load of you (and risk losing your fame?) What?
Nathaniel Taylor
I respond to enthusiasm with enthusiasm. If I'm suddenly getting interest from outside parties, I start talking to them big time and sharing their passion. But I stay humble, agreeing that what I do next might not be as good as the last thing I did, but striving for excellence anyways. That's also a great way to springboard your popularity and build a fanbase which will support you.
Juan Powell
Can you guys help me come up with some bullshit ideas for my paper? I have to write a 10-page paper where I apply Marxist theory to 1984. I can borrow from other theories, but I primarily want to do Marxism. My thesis statement is, "The purpose of this paper is to identify Marxist themes within 1984 such as the power dynamic between the Party and the Proles, and to analyze the small-scale revolution Winston Smith undertakes against Big Brother. However, a Marxist perspective will also be used to explore a lesser-known connection
That thesis is unfinished. I'm doing a 2 sentence thesis statement which I don't think I've ever done, but I think it'll be okay considering what I'm writing about. The teacher WANTS us to apply literary theory to our novel of choice to find an UNKNOWN connection. So basically, I have to find some bullshit unknown connection between 1984 and Marxism, which is super hard to do.
Christopher Watson
I'd be disgusted with myself for writing something so accessible and normal. I'd take my money and move into a cabin in the woods with no electricity or running water.
Just make sure you don't retread "A Confederacy Of Dunces".
A previously UNKNOWN connection between 1984 and Marxism? Ouch. Your teacher is a sadist.
Nathan Walker
You're free to discuss your work, and not discuss yourself. There are many celebrities that do everything they can to preserve their privacy.
Landon Price
Been just writing other stuff while I'm stuck on my novel:
The Hairdresser
Unaccustomed to the shampoo-scrub ritual, preferring the in-and-out Great Clips transaction, the impersonality of it, the averted eyes, twenty bucks and strained conversation. There should probably be an initial questionnaire: Talk or just close your eyes?
In Seoul, I didn’t know any place. Wandered upstairs, the hairdresser eyeing blonde through the glass, shrugging her shoulders. Inside, I showed her a picture as she dragged me over to the shampoo chair, tilted my chin back with her thumb, and draped a cloth over my face. She mocked my Korean and—
There’s a difference between cutting and scrubbing—scissors, razors, brushes: sterile tools wielded by professionals who, careful not to graze the skin, hold hair away by pronged fingers, strands gingerly snipped. Ideal for tin-canned conversation over the best places to live, adjusting knees under an encompassing black bib. But scrubbing…
Scrubbing is for mothers holding down squirming kids in aluminum wash-bins, for clerical absolving and salt-soaked penance—a restorative, intimate violence reserved for lovers, families and the baptismal. So of course I remember her skeletal fingers pushing into my scalp, the provocation of each rotation, the idea that you can fall in love with someone because of their handwriting and how the same must be true for the washing of hair. And then me, limply committed (Ellie, on the futon, gazing into apartments across the railroad)—knowing full well that, if this woman were to pause, to lean down and tell me to leave, I’d be unable.
Jacob Lewis
I'll get interviewed by my favorite booktubers of course!
Mason Adams
I secure a large contract with some big trad publishing house for my next book and I enter negotiations to sell the movie rights for my current big hit. And because of all the dosh I have coming in I hire a publicist and offer a very carefully curated picture of myself to the public. Then I invest in real estate, the market, probably defense contractor stocks they never go down and they pay dividends, and crypto.
Eli Baker
Have you read or do you have time to read about Lukacs' theory of the novel and the socialist function of realist literature? You could also write about Orwell's peculiar relationship to socialism and communism, and how it informed his depictions of communitarian/totalitarian societies. Here's an interesting post I had to dig up, with a link to an essay by Deutscher: warosu.org/lit/thread/S18847279#p18847607
Another thing that comes to mind if you want to stay internal to the novel and its themes, and just do a Marxist analysis of them as opposed to the novel itself as a product of Orwell the man, is how interpellation into the echelons of the party works in the world of 1984. There is obviously "hard" repression of dissent but there is also "soft" integration. Althusser is most famous for his use of the interpellation concept but he's very hard to read so I recommend "strategically" accessing him with the help of secondary sources.
Alexander Miller
I’m writing a comic script. Is this entertaining? Do you feel compelled to read / know more.
I'm trying to get into erotica. How's this? Damn, her tits are big, I thought. "I'd like to suck dem titties," I told the alabaster bitch before me. "I'd like to suck your cock, Tyrone," she said in response. She winked, and I knew I'd get to fuck that bitch. Then I fucked that bitch. I fucked her titties. I fucked her mouth. I fucked her pussy. I fucked her ass. I even came in her right ear. She was one eager ho. "You're one eager ho," I said.
Chase Taylor
are you being sincere or is this a facetious example?
Jaxon Bennett
Yes, yes but how is the way this speech sounds to be conveyed?
Jeremiah Smith
Sofi is nervous and anxious
Mina is excitable
It’s the beginning to the third episode and I don’t know if it’s a strong enough beginning. It has symbolic significance but I didn’t know if it was interesting enough or if should try something else
Carter Rogers
Retard. Physically on the fucking page how - HOW - is the text supposed to be conveyed.
Zachary Butler
Yes, I get it that you're telling me WHY they sound like that. You're not telling me how you're going to convey it. See, comics don't have sound. You can use sound effects to create ambiance but how do you convey a speech sounds robotic and rehearsed? If it was me, I'd go the Godfather route and show the rehearsing
Jack Torres
>Do you feel compelled to read / know more. Dude, why would I?
Hudson Cook
I don’t understand! What do you mean? Like explains what’s going on? I don’t get it ! And I actually did think exactly of that scene when writing it and the script does begin with Sofi rehearsing and messing it up when she sees Danny
>Danny is on her knees rubbing her favorite dog's belly you just know more seriously, why are there a bunch of wild dogs on the school grounds, and why does Danny have her own tree? >mysterious pizza >autist reading her hello my name is speech >net trap >Fritzi I think this story has exceeded any reasonable bounds of le quirky and randumb. Where is the tard wrangler for these children? Was he let go because of budget cuts?
Brody Cook
Oh darn, your story's "big reveal" is spoiled now. LOL
Asher Martinez
How to write femal characters?
I have mever talked to a woman outside of work or school by the way if that matters.
>fuck you faggot If that's another example of what you bring to the table as a writer...NGMI
Nathan Gomez
Start with a man, then take away reason and accountability. (h/t to Jack Nicholson's character in "As Good As It Gets")
Asher Barnes
Imagine the most twofaced, passive-aggressive person you can. Now remove all rationality, add an unfounded belief in them somehow being "really good at reading people" and in the power of horoscopes. Next remove all sense of personal responsibility and empathy. Add unfounded pride and an ego that is bruised whenever things don't go the way they want. Make them entitled, to the point they are offended when people don't hold the door open for them or when someone doesn't greet them properly. This person HAS to be the center of attention at all times but lacks anything interesting to say. They also don't have the attention span to listen to anything you might say. They chase quick dopamine rushes. This is woman. Hear her roar.
Jonathan Cox
NGMI? WELL NGMI YOU!! IF I WAS YOUR MOTHER I'D SUCK MY DICK TO DEATH!
Dominic Gomez
Lurk crystal cafe (female Yea Forums). You'll get a sense for how women are different and how they're the same.
Elijah Price
touch grass.
Isaiah Harris
You need to be over 18 years old to browse this website, son
Benjamin Wilson
Are you from Southern California?
Ian Thompson
I mainly write fan fic for established shows, but I started writing a fic which while using someone else's characters doesn't have a big fanbase that would read fanfc. And I'm really enjoying it. Tho I wonder if I'm doing myself a disservice by not converting it into something I KNOW will get a bigger audience.
Henry Diaz
stay anonymous unless it would be more profitable not to.
Ryan Sanchez
As we have a flood of new posters I'd like to post some cultural norms of this general as a reminder:
>You MUST ask for approval of any writing ideas before you begin both writing or posting (not just before posting) >Do NOT edit before posting samples since you'll just have to edit it again anyway >Don't waste time thanking anyone for their feedback, that time can be better spent on your world building bible >post from your generic advice resevoir as often as possible, if it's generally applicable it will be generally beneficial >DO post with the same repetitive avatar image so your personality can come through and help build our sense of community
Let me know if I missed any and thanks for being part of /wg/
>Let me know if I missed any and thanks for being part of /wg/ Nobody here writes. Or reads.
Michael King
I just want to write. Any extra hassle would just get in the way of that, and it would be pretty frustrating if people cared more about my person than my work, so I'd try to stay anonymous.
Kevin Miller
You forgot a couple
>before posting the post asking for permission to post the work that you haven't bothered to edit because editing is something that is an ongoing process so what even is an unedited piece of writing you wrote it therefore it may as well be considered edited, you need to post a post asking if you can ask to think about asking to post the post where you then ask to post your unedited piece of writing >fanfiction, more like funfiction
Luis Walker
Create a persona but stay anonymous. I would try to do the same vtubers and corpse husband do. Have a presence online, go to interviews, befriend and meet some people but try as much as possible to stay anonymous.
Zachary Butler
Nobody re- oh, Carry on.
Matthew Cooper
Generic users get generic advice. Actual writers get detailed analyses. And witty snark is vastly preferable to seething.
Colton Fisher
You guys aren’t just dropping your book into the void right? Imagine how powerful it would be to have an email list of 10,000 upon book release.
Tyler Walker
Give no interviews, do all communication through an agent who never gives up my name to anyone. It'd be my little secret.
Colton Flores
I post it to scribble hub so yeah, Into the void.
Brandon Reed
I'll just buy Yea Forums ads. If it's not good enough to catch on Yea Forums, it's not good enough to catch anywhere else. I ultimately don't want success if I can reasonably point to all that much more than the quality of my writing.
Hunter Kelly
This is setting yourself up for failure. A cope for when you inevitably do fail so you can point to something else besides the quality of your writing. Seek healthier coping mechanisms.
Brayden Davis
Meerkaters OUT!
Jayden Harris
Didn't that gardner guy do this?
Lucas Hall
And lost money presumably. Imagine if you had an email list of 10k 5k open link. There’s a selection bias, they already like your writing, 1,000 people buy your book. Imagine how that would jumpstart your sales and really improve your amazon algorithms. This should hypothetically take less than 2 years of writing to gather this size following, but would improve your visibility comparable to decades of traditional effort.
Cooper Ross
Do I have permission to think about maybe pondering possibly posting something here for critique? I just want to think about it hypothetically. Not do it. That’d be presumptuous of me.
