Why do we only ever discuss the same writers over and over again...

The ones I can remember off the top of my head are Chaucer, Balzac, Emerson, and Arthur Miller. There are also writers, Wilde for example, that get engagement but that engagement is just anons spamming the thread with shit posts.

He has a point doe, here’s the problem
>barely anyone here reads
>janny trannies ban the erudite posters

>Why do we only ever discuss the same writers
I've browsed here intermittently for 6 years, and I have no idea what sort of literary discussion you are referring to.

You forgot Nietzche

user if you make an Emerson thread I promise I will be there to post.

>Tolstoy
>Dostoyevsky
>Joyce
>Tolkien
>Pynchon
>McCarthy
This is 80% of Yea Forums discussion, 5% for freshman philosophy (Plato, Hegel, Kant, Nietzsche, Schopenhauer; Hume or Russell if someone is feeling adventurous), 5% for Homer/Virgil/Ovid/Dante (almost always about translations) and 5% bait/demoralization threads. That leaves 5% for actual effortposting and genuine questions.

First post worst post.

I’ve tried to make five Emerson threads in the past. Only one got any engagement, and that engagement amounted to a single comment. :(
I’ve had a little more luck with Thoreau and Whitman, but American transcendentalism - Emerson especially - is sadly overlooked by Yea Forums for the most part.

Some of us don't work in layers of irony

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We all know that things ride mankind. He doesn't seem to offer anything a more eloquent author hasn't stated elsewhere. What about Emerson or his works should compel interest?

>He doesn't seem to offer anything a more eloquent author hasn't stated elsewhere.
Name one writer that came before Emerson that discussed the same ideas in a more eloquent way. I’m waiting.

>This is 80% of Yea Forums discussion

You forgot
>picture of some ethot
>blogpost about relationship problems
>Books for this feel?

Granted, mods have gotten better at cracking down on these, but it's still a good 10-15% of the catalog.

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He started Transcendentalism, a lot of his ideas are unique within the context of his broader worldview even relative to those who took it up. For example, his ideas regarding Intuition are fairly original.
See that is strange. A few people I've met insist that Emerson is basically a household name in the US. I assume most people here are from the US, so it is strange to me that people would not be interested.

Which ideas? I'm not being snide, I'm asking you because I'm curious.

i didnt but i just didnt want to spell his name out cause i always forget how

>See that is strange. A few people I've met insist that Emerson is basically a household name in the US. I assume most people here are from the US, so it is strange to me that people would not be interested.
I had to take an American Literature class my junior year of high school as part of my school’s English curriculum and Emerson (or any of the other transcendentalists) weren’t even mentioned let alone read and studied. I think most Americans would vaguely recognize the name Ralph Waldo Emerson but most wouldn’t know anything about him or his writing.

There was a Poe thread yesterdsy

poe at least is read in schools. poe and melville is the only 1800s american literature ive seen discussed here.

Nature and its relation to human consciousness and spirituality and spirituality, self reliance and originality, the great men theory of history, pantheism and the universal mind, etc.

>Why do threads about widely known authors catch? Why don't my threads about esoteric authors only I know about not attract attention?
If you can't answer that, I can do without your recs.

I think Woolf, Poe, Dickens and Balzac all get a decent amount of attention.
Gogol is discussed fairly often.
Zemyatin and Pasternak are NEVER discussed.

The Gordon Pym thread? Yeah, but there's no discussion, a thread full of shitposts and wiki info to disguise the fact that nobody on the board has actually read him, including the OP.

What you've described was my intuition about Emerson's reception in the country. I need to stop listening to the over-educated and their filtered views of who and what is "the case," for the average person.

>Why do we only ever discuss the same writers over and over again?
Because we don't read and we larp instead.

Its almost as if more people are likely to engage if they know or have read the author before and not if they dont know who they are

see

Imagine if Yea Forums went 1 months without discussing a single german author. No Nietzsche, Marx, Hegel, Kant, Heidegger, etc.
This board would be FORCED to finally discuss something new

Mods, can we PLEASE make this happen?

I have begun to read seriously about one week ago and I discovered Yea Forums three days ago, so I have little to say but I'm actually interested on discussing about non-canon authors. My problem is I have little vagage, being philosophy the subject I'm most versed in. I have read like 20 books in my life, so you can get an idea about my level of literature knowledge. If op or other anons are interested in a particular topic I could share my experience from a first read pov and my opinions but I takes time to read a book so I really can't answer to threads because they dissapear quickly.
A solution I think could work is make collective readings like the Quixote one because that way I, and I guess some other anons, have time to read the book of which the thread will be about. Also, doing that we are all in the same page so it's easier for everyone to collaborate.

Cutie

You actually come to Yea Forums and discuss books? Go somewhere else or to your local book club.

Also forbid threads on the Greeks, specifically on their translations. There's at least two threads every week on which Homer translation to pick, it's absurd how much text must've ended up in the archive discussing this matter that apparently nobody can be arsed to look up. It's always the same circlejerk about muh Pope this, muh Fitzgerald that, and muh Wilson has annihilated western culture.

>but I takes time to read a book so I really can't answer to threads because they dissapear quickly.
Tbh you've just wonderfully described why Yea Forums is shit. Books are a marathon, but the addictive imageboard format is focused on the short bursts within individual threads that last a few days at most (except for that /po/ thread). I'm dreaming of finding a classical forum that discusses literature with some intellectual pretensions, it would make Yea Forums utterly unnecessary.
Also, get out. Now. People on imageboards like to pretend to be above the common rabble but the addictive mechanism of F5ing the catalog is the same as using Facebook and TikTok and Instagram. It should all objectively be treated as an opioid.

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>1 months without discussing a single german author
Instant boner

>it would make Yea Forums utterly unnecessary.
Yea Forums is already unnecessary.

I think making generals for the most widely discussed topics, writers, and books (and pruning excessive threads about them) would go a long way toward increasing the quality of Yea Forums.

Won't work, just taking a look at the few general like /sffg/ and it's just going to be shit.

if you think Yea Forums is bad for this, wait until you find out about Yea Forums
also
>frogposter
this has to be bait

I stopped using Yea Forums years ago

If you found that forum, share it please. I have search but either doesn't exist or it's unknown and unreachable.

Thank you for the advice of getting out. The thing is I want to discuss lit and in my life there aren't those people. I guess I will click just on the serious threads. If it is a bad idea too I can look for a discord chat or something but they are difficult to find

Stop dreaming, do something about it. I don't say necessary on Yea Forums, there are more internet than Yea Forums

Protip: No one wants to actually read, they just want to have given off the appearance of reading so as to acquire social capital. People post about these authors pretending to have read them then go back to watching anime or something.

i agree with mishima. i think people on this board have actually read dostoesvsky at least, but it gets tiring only talking about him when there are so many great writers. Most everyone before modernism seems to get dismissed outright unless ur a meme like homer.
this board trciekd me into getting into lit and i started with doesto like everyone else but that made me want to keep reading because its a very compelling activity

>i think people on this board have actually read dostoesvsky at least
Stop being optimistic.

theres too many memes about crime and punishment at least. I guess its possible people just read the first half and called it good.

Not sure what Mishima quote you're referring to, however:
>Most everyone before modernism seems to get dismissed outright unless ur a meme like homer.
This is typically an example of:
>they just want to have given off the appearance of reading so as to acquire social capital
Because modernism and postmodern maximalist novels are perceived as the "hardest" forms of literature to read, it's the Yea Forums equivalent of telling someone to git gud on Yea Forums.

Most of Yea Forums goes out of their way to derail conversation on books which lack an extensive wikipedia entry. Interpret that how you please.

You only need to read Gravity's Rainbow and maybe a Burroughs or two

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It would be fun to have themed months but mods are too much of faggots to trust them with it

Well, I can't disagree with that too much.
It's good how it introduces many people to the classics. For those who weren't taught well, it finally shows these topics as something accessible and emotionally relevant and involving.
The problem is that it leaves people stagnating, re-reading the Greeks and the memetic modernists forever. I've said this many times and I still stand by it: the christfags are the only distinct group of posters who systematically read and know their shit, who go beyond the generic recs that get posted over and over.

I'm quite pessimistic about it. I've found good places to talk about linguistics, classical music, and even film, but literature is for some reason fruitless. The best I've found are some subreddits that receive a new post once every two days.

On the verge of filtering frog images.

>but literature is for some reason fruitless
Pretty sad, I guess I will have to make people around me read or develop an imaginary friend who can talk with me about lit

Okay, so let's start a reading group that focuses on obscure writers and works.

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