>I’ve always had a passion for poetry — from reading Kahlil Gibran in Syria to reading W.S. Merwin — my love grew more and it was as if the words were etched into my mind forever. It wasn’t until high school year in my literature class that I really struggled with connecting to poetry. Every day I walked into class hopeful, only to walk out perplexed and slowly losing the passion I had for poetry.
>We read poets like Shakespeare, Robert Frost, and John Keats. Although they were great poets in their time, centuries later their cultural relevance has shifted — and so should our educational curriculum. Many of the things we are taught as young people fall outside of the school environment. Instead of teaching the same poem year after year, teachers should integrate Hip-hop into their curriculums and utilize it as a culturally responsive foundation that increases social and political awareness.
>Sadly, the academic world recoils to any connection between hip-hop and the ever changing culture of the youth. Many educators reject the idea of hip-hop in classrooms claiming it as un-educational and as a tool that simply promotes profanity and violence. However, by setting boundaries and digging deep into the root of hip-hop, you’ll see that it is rooted with poetry and messages that are so beautiful and meaningful to society.
>Tupac Shakur, whose presence and legacy still lives on to today, claimed that all of his songs begin with poetry. There is a prominent duality present in all of his work. His work was raw and painful and portrayed noble struggle, yet he imagined a future with hope and better days. Hip Hop takes the “real” world and changes it. In his music, Tupac wrote about himself in a way that imagines survival and asks,
>“Did you hear about the rose that grew
>from a crack in the concrete?
>Proving nature’s law is wrong it
>learned to walk without having feet.
>Long live the rose that grew from concrete
>when no one else ever cared” (qtd. in Walter).
>In this poem, Tupac is imagining a beautiful end for himself. He looks past the thorns of the flower and instead focuses on the vibrant growing petals. Hip-hop has always had an association with the youth, and never seems to out date. It’s always been a response to historical events, politics, living conditions, and injustices.
Is she right?
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>is she right?
No
>Hip-hop music is the “language of the youth” says author and educator Carole Boston Weatherford. Through hip-hop, students not only cope and channel their emotions, but also find a connection with poetry that reflects a part of themselves.
>The core purpose of poetry is to tell a story, or portray a message, so it would be fair to say that poetry birthed hip-hop and rap. Rappers such as J. Cole and Joey Bada$$ along with the more experienced artists like Jay-Z simply portray their poetry and storytelling through a melody. This melody can be translated differently into everyone’s life which is what makes it so versatile and appealing to the youth.
>I’ve always wondered what the purpose of reading about the Shakespearean times and the past was, and it always felt like it was holding me back from exploring my passion and my role in society. Although it is important to acknowledge aspects of the past, reliving it and learning about it repeatedly will only keep us from evolving into our own identities and making our own history. School is about nourishing the minds of the youth, and accommodating to their needs and changing society they are immersed into.
>The school curriculum should evolve and cater to the needs of the minds that need it the most.
The rest of the article.
It's music, not literature. Poetry is already part of literature.
low-tier b8 m8
try again
I'm sorry, but niggas talking about hoes and drivebys isn't poetry and has zero relevance to anything but the hood.
>Tupac Shakur, whose presence and legacy still lives on today, claims that all his songs begin with poetry.
>you call yourself a player but I fucked your wife
Ah yes, Tupac Shakur, the greatest "poet" of all time
Fuck niggas, I don't trust niggas
If you bust triggers and you tell you a fuck nigga (Ain't nothin' funny)
How you tell on the gang? If you mention my name
Boy, I promise I'ma kill you, finna dunk nigga
What's up with you? I grew up with you
Used to fuck with you, now I'm wishin' that a bus hit you
I used to fuck with you, now I'm wishin' that a bus hit you
Fuck niggas, I don't trust niggas
If you bust triggers and you tell you a fuck nigga
Fuck nigga, nah, Lil Tjay, yeah yeah
Used to fuck with you, now I'm wishin' that a bus hit you
Yeah, yeah, yeah (Skrrt, skrrt, yeah)
Grr, pow! I'ma skip town, see my wrist drown
Everybody wanna fuck with me for benefits now
Man, I wish my nigga Smelly could've seen me lit now
Sit down, maybe roll up, blow a spliff down
Time go by, niggas change so much
Why the fuck these niggas lookin' at my chain so much?
They just mad 'cause I departed from the game so much
One false move and the gang gon' bust
Cartier glasses, 20/20, got a clear view
You a man, I don't fear you
Act up, we gon' mask up, boy, I dare you
Brody catch a body, I'ma leave you in the rearview
Could have did it to me, lil' nigga, you were scared to
You a bluff and ya not who you appear to
You'd be starstruck if you see a nigga near you
And your bitch wanna fuck, I don't care to
Sure why not
WHEN I BUST MY GAT, MOTHERFUCKERS TAKE DIRT NAPS
I'M ALL THAT AND A DIME SACK
WHERE THE PAPER AT?
Rap music is how you force hall monitor liberal white women into accepting the authentic and valid cultural practice of misogyny.
No. It's just another sad attempt to steer the subject toward a sliver of material that might interest the reading impaired and underperforming minority and it's about as subtle a suggestion as saying it's time to make basketball drills part of the curriculum.
>what the purpose of reading about the Shakespearean times and the past was, and it always felt like it was holding me back from exploring my passion and my role in society
> School is about nourishing the minds of the youth, and accommodating to their needs and changing society they are immersed into.
The condescension of Shakespeare being indecipherable while gangster rap is "nourishing" and relevant to your "role in society" will be lost in time, like braincells in public school.
Wash yo ass
You gots to wash yo ass
You gots to wash yo ass
Squash squash yo ass
You gots to wash yo ass
You gots to wash yo ass
Squash squash it
Squash squash it
I say you wash yo ass
You gots to wash yo ass
You gots to wash yo ass
Squash squash yo ass
Just grab a dush
Open up your puss
Squash squash it, squash squash it
[Verse 1]
I say, now dag, dag
Now baby did you pass gas?
I think you better go get yourself some soap
And wash yo ass, fast
Got a motherfuckin' [?] and wonderin' what's up with the junk in the trunkin'
It's gettin' funkier and funkier
Better wash that skunk out your monkey
You raise hell and be yellin'
Because all the fellas be bailin'
That all the fellas gonna be bailin' because your
Be cootie get smellin'
I see you wanna get a cootie catter but I think'll pass
Nigga
What'll make a motherfucker wanna smell yo ass
Nigga
Yo cootie catter really smellin' mad and that's for real
Nigga
You really [?] and gale
Nigga
And wash it, wash it
Squash, squash it
Before nigga gets his groove on
Baby gotta get your douche on
Wanna get a piece of my wee wee
But I know I wouldn't like to give you none, hoe
You must be from New Orleans cause yo cootie catter smell like gumbo
And if you wanna give it up wait a minute before you drop yo clothes
I gots to send and a message to you funky cootchie hoes
Yes we should teach this.
>on the fifth day
>I heard she switched gay
>pulled out my switchblade
>ichbay is ixnay
This should be in the Library of Congress
Faustian. BAM.
Sure, just not Tupac. Most overrated mf out there.
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What's the point of catering education to those less interested in it?
There is nothing more boring than the adulation of "history".
When I die, fuck it, I wanna go to hell
'Cause I'm a piece of shit, it ain't hard to fuckin' tell
It don't make sense, goin' to heaven with the goodie-goodies
Dressed in white, I like black Timbs and black hoodies
God'll prob'ly have me on some real strict shit
No sleepin' all day, no gettin' my dick licked
Hangin' with the goodie-goodies, loungin' in paradise
Fuck that shit, I wanna tote guns and shoot dice (You talkin' some crazy shit now, nigga)
All my life I been considered as the worst
Lyin' to my mother, even stealin' out her purse
Crime after crime, from drugs to extortion
I know my mother wish she got a fuckin' abortion
She don't even love me like she did when I was younger (Get a hold of yourself, nigga!)
Suckin' on her chest just to stop my fuckin' hunger
I wonder, if I died, would tears come to her eyes?
Forgive me for my disrespect, forgive me for my lies
My baby mother's eight months, her little sister's two
Who's to blame for both of them? (Nah, nigga, not you)
I swear to God I want to just slit my wrists and end this bullshit
Throw the Magnum to my head, threaten to pull shit (Nigga, what the fuck?)
And squeeze until the bed's completely red (It's too late for this shit, man)
I'm glad I'm dead, a worthless fuckin' buddha head
The stress is buildin' up, I can't— I can't believe (Yo, I'm on my way over there, man)
Suicide's on my fuckin' mind, I wanna leave
I swear to God I feel like death is fuckin' callin' me
But nah, you wouldn't understand (Nigga, talk to me please, man!)
You see it's kinda like the crack did to Pookie in New Jack
Except when I cross over, there ain't no comin' back (Yo, I'ma call you when I get in the car)
Should I die on the train track like Ramo in Beat Street
People at the funeral frontin' like they miss me (Ayo, where your girl at, man?)
My baby mama kiss me, but she glad I'm gone (Yo, put your girl on the phone, nigga!)
She know me and her sister had somethin' goin' on
I reach my peak, I can't speak (Ayo, you listenin' to me, motherfucker?)
Call my nigga Chic, tell him that my will is weak (Ayo, c'mon, nigga)
I'm sick of niggas lyin', I'm sick of bitches hawkin'
Matter of fact, I'm sick of talkin'
>2pac
> rhymes lexus with sex
niggers are shit shit shit shit shit
Based
chud picked the most cherrypicked song
Yes, you should want public school kids to be as stupid as possible so you can exploit them when they grow up. Imagine dealing with an adult that studying negrology his whole life, his shit is ripe for the taking.
I'm not surprised, but I am disappointed that someone would have this impression of Shakespeare. Just because the hijinx are from the Victorian era doesn't make them any less interesting. These are universal human experiences and if you get hung up on the window dressing because the setting is Venice not NY and the hooligans are carrying dueling swords and not guns you have no imagination and no soul. Why can npcs not naturally relate and transmute stories into the sphere of their own experience? Lin Manuel Miranda made millions doing this.
its a lost cause at this point.
Rap has never, nor will it ever, gotten better than this
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so sure, have the american brainlet in lit class analyze it
>it's about as subtle a suggestion as saying it's time to make basketball drills part of the curriculum
2pac was a convicted rapist whose brother killed a 3 old girl with his gun, and rap is misogynistic af, so I favor this fr fr
Relevant Nietzsche:
>Another century of readers-and the spirit itself will stink. That everyone may learn to read, in the long run corrupts not only writing but also thinking. Once the spirit was God, then he became man, and now he even becomes rabble.
-On Reading and Writing, Thus Spoke Zarathustra\
In other words: FUCK PUBLIC EDUCATION
lol white people everywhere have been lapping that shit up for 30 years straight
>Many educators reject the idea of hip-hop in classrooms claiming it as un-educational and as a tool that simply promotes profanity and violence
It just doesn't meet the standard of literary excellence. What a shit strawman.
YOU GOTTA WASH YOU AYYSSSS IF YA MUST
YOU GOTTA WASH YO HAAAIIIYAAA IF YA MUST
YOU GOTTA BRUSH YO TEEEF IF YA MUST
OR ELSE YOULL BE FUNKAYYYY
Real Gs move in silence like lasagna
- Wayne, Lil
There has not been many days since this board was created that there hasn't been at least one post asking "Is X musician literature?" or "Is this a lit movie?". Fact is no one reads, no one wants to read, but they think reading is in some way prestigious, so they look to co-opt that shine and move it to other areas where they are more comfortable, like music, or tv, without ever stopping to question if there isn't something in the medium itself that separates it from those other mediums. I hate you, OP. I hate everyone in this thread, including myself, for replying. Hate.
This is good. Lil Wayne suffers from blowing up in the mainstream right as he started experimenting with dumber styles but he still has good bars. A mistake a lot of people make is looking to rap for poetic imagery but a lot of these guys just want to say funny shit in interesting ways
>Is she right?
No. Because she is doing this for a feeling of moral superiority. I would be more behind this is she was for introducing LYRICS in general into the curriculum. Maybe she addresses that in this piece, but I'm not going to read it. Hardly anyone listens to pop music for the lyrics and most of the time it's heavily reliant on delivery and the lyrics tend to be surface level.
I can't imagine anything more disrespectful to the idea hip-hop than having rap lyrics scrutinized as poetry by academics.
If music is going to be studied as poetry in schools, there are hundreds of artists that deserve to be studied before any rapper. Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, and Morrissey for example.
>Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, and Morrissey for example.
bad examples
She suckin on my dick yuh
I nut on that bitchs face yuh
30k on my wrist yuh
Trappin out the Benz yuh
Droppin opps errday yuh
Catch you my block yuh
Fill you with lead yuh
wit my Glock yuh
Fuckin on yo bitch yuh
Do not listen to rap. Actively avoid consuming black "culture" whenever possible.
I'm so happy I have a 6/10 black gf I can rape every night. Otherwise shit like this might make me angry and radicalised! Truly, jungle pussy is the patrician's choice of self medication for clown world.
>Jay-Z
>has songs about being unfairly targeted by police
>also has songs bragging about robbing other black people and getting them hooked on crack
Makes you think.
>Is she right?
No. She just has to write nonsense like this or else she doesnt get paid.
Music is already studied in school anyway.
no the best poetry requires a romanticism that just doesn't exist in the modern world
Niggas iffy, uh, blicky got the stiffy, uh
Got the blicky, uh, drum it holds fifty, uh
SCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG
Pop these niggas like a wheelie nigga, you a silly nigga
In the hood with them Billy niggas, and them Hoover niggas
You run up and they shooting niggas, we ain't hooping nigga
No KB, you a loser nigga, up that Uzi nigga
On the stoop, crills in my draws, your girl on my phone
She wanna fuck but keep her clothes on, I only want the jaw
Man that's really all I use her for, I kick her out the door
I don't want her, you can keep the whore, she fiendin' for some more
In New York my niggas don't Milly Rock, my niggas money bop
Blow a case a nigga throwing shots, I run 'em off they block
Quarter milli in the stash box, I grinded for my spot
Niggas talking 'bout that cash but my bag worth a lot
I don't fuck with no old hoes, only new hoes
Hold my dick in her backbone, I pass her to my bro
I don't love her that's a sad hoe, she a bad hoe
I'ma fuck her then I dash home, to the cash hoe
I'm on some rob a nigga shit, take a nigga bitch
Do the dash in the whip, count the cash in the whip
I pull up with a stick, I let that shit hit
Shout out, but I fucked that nigga bitch
6ix9ine is unironically “realer” than faggot reddït rappers like Kendrick Lamar and Logic
I unironically love that song desu
How is this not poetry?
He's a real nowhere man
Sitting in his nowhere land
Making all his nowhere plans
For nobody
Doesn't have a point of view
Knows not where he's going to
Isn't he a bit like you and me?
Nowhere man please listen
You don't know what you're missing
Nowhere man, the world is at your command
He's as blind as he can be
Just sees what he wants to see
Nowhere man, can you see me at all?
Nowhere man
Don't worry
Take your time, don't hurry
Leave it all 'til somebody else
Lends you a hand.
Oh for fuck sakes!
When's it all going to end???
It's notable how the people who champion "rap as art" are usually also the same people who criticise 'misogyny' in almost everything they see - except rap. Rap is filled with misogyny and violence. They always have their special exceptions ready to quote, but those don't represent the bulk of the genre.
>put music in the literature curriculum
Put music in the fucking music curriculum and pay for the arts again.
Rap/hip-hop has more in common with rhetoric than it does with literature/poetry. Blacks have a rhetorician archetype that pops up in their artistic output quite a bit (almost as much as the preacher/conman). Anyway, there's a bunch of black poets they could put in that would fill their diversity quotas without completely bastardizing the curriculum into a current year version of a shitty 90s movie.
The fucking irony is that the g in lasangna is not silent. That's why it's pronounced luh-zahn-yuh and not luh-sahn-uh.
No one has actually has ironclad principles. Hypocrisy is as natural to people as eating and sleeping.
From an article about putting ESL teaching as part of the public school curriculum in schools (and also asking for 1:1 learning opportunities):
>Language is the most insightful weapon that mankind attains, but it can also be the most blinding. As a young girl, I came to America with dreams of prosperity and triumph and it seemed as if the brightest of the stars couldn’t emulate my passion and light. However, not knowing English it felt as if I was engulfed by darkness. In order to break down the barrier standing between me and my dreams I pushed myself everyday to learn English. Whether it be watching movies, observing as my cousins and school communicated, or even listened to music. Sadly, it all had to occur outside of school. I realized that by immersing myself in the culture, I was able to learn more English in two months than any ELL (English Language Learner) class could teach me in a year.
From an article calling to boycott French products because they're too mean to Muslims:
>This incident came amid heightened racial tensions following French president Macron’s speech where he called Islam “a religion in crisis all over the world today”, and pledged to fight “Islamist separatism”. He also voiced his support of satirical magazine Charlie Hebdos right, to publish cartoons of the prophet of Islam which is completely disrespectful and has left many Muslims all over the world in distress.
Pic related:
>However, with the rise of modest fashion on social media, the runways, and even the music industry, I started to evolve into my own style and putting together pieces that were both modest and authentic. It started getting easier to find modest clothing and turning pieces that I usually wouldn’t wear into something that fits both my religious beliefs and my preferences.
This broad is vapid. Who cares what she has to say about how public schools in the West should go about teaching literature.
>take Huckleberry Finn out of schools because of Nigger Jim
>introduce Kendrick in poetry units
This makes sense.
Not even a distant land
We're stuck on a whole different planet
No peace lookin' at the sky
Trouble's always all around so we stay quick with
The guns and cannons
Standing as long as we can until we get all Dolls up
Then call all bets off
We'll blow through your tar
Dealing with lives messed up
On a sea of dark matter
Every minute matters
Living while other lives shatter
Seeing ghosts scatter
As they pour out
We can handle them
It's the tar taking over that came unexpected
Hard to accept it
Getting marked for death
Seeing friends snatched and darkly possessed
The tar inside stealing the body and breath
Till only a shell is left
Witness to Hell in the flesh
A fight to the death
Screaming Where's the relief?
Maybe no more sleep
All swallowed in grief
Images Start to stalk like a beast
I hear voices but no one talking to me...
It's like I'm washing away
All my peaceful days
Anyway Anyhow
Nothing left of that scene
If you are losing your way
You need some protection
Black tar, it gets you
Where ever you go
They could find you quickly, it's sticky
However you try to tough it out
You just can't beat them
They said seek to find the field So we can sharpen skills
But Now we can only feel
All the pain of the danger being real
And we may have to kill
Just to stay alive
'Cause They've taken away close mates
And we don't know our own fates
We've been tasked to protect and take on ghosts
But now this black tar is new
And the damage is quick
It moves really fast
Plus it covers everything
This wasn't in the profile
So Now We've got to find a way to win or we die out
Living life on the run
With a hand on a gun
Where's the exits
We can't go back where we came from
We can't go back where we came from
Get armed, Don't look back
Shoot them with your guns
Yes, Get up, Don't give up
Shoot them
All the power you got
Hello...? Is this thing on? Am I all alone?
Is anyone there?
I need a bigger gun Help if you can
Please wake me up
Not to sound cliche
But this world sucks!
So close it's a voice I'm hearing
Overwhelms me, Can't stop bleeding
Show me ... in the fog
How many times you gotta kill your friends?
How do you feel you gotta shoot their head?
Just like the endless war
WAR...
How do I know?
This goddamn stuff is all around
How can I get out?
This nightmare I've got to escape
Just screaming
You hear them over and over
You will get running
So we can find the way to get out
We're stuck on a different planet
A lot more than we can manage
But we gotta keep on standing
We're stuck on a different planet
A lot more than we can manage
But we gotta keep on standing
Just want live in peace yet
Black tar's gonna keep us restless
Running just to keep our own breaths
People are dripping black tar
It's taken a ship down so far
Don't wanna lose hope
But here we are
Wishing to see the sunrise
But the sun doesn't rise in this sky
Black Tar covers most eyes
Literature classes barely had enough to explore classic literature
>nigger who benefited from education complains about education
Guess what nigger, if you never had access to education then you would be unable to Read or even know of Nietzche
I seriously don’t fucking get it when people say Tupac and Biggie are the greatest of all time when I read their lyrics and it’s all shit like this
>Rap music is how you force hall monitor liberal white women into accepting the authentic and valid cultural practice of misogyny.
i am amazed at how many roasties love rap music and yet they say they are feminist lol