How true is the fact that men can't write relatable female characters...

How true is the fact that men can't write relatable female characters? There must be some ground to this because most of the women I see these days read female authors all the time.

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most women don't even know how to write women, how can they even criticize how men write women?

If they can't write women, other women wouldn't have read their books fucking retard

Women arent relatable. Do you want an accurate look into the female mind or would you rather read prick-stiffening prose about wet titties

People prefer to read books from writers of their own sex, so don't assume women write women better just because women read women. You can see here on Yea Forums the consensus is to never read women, because the population here is mostly young men. If you put a female name to most books that women complain about I bet most of their opinions would dissolve.

Women writers get offended by male writers writing about women’s physicality when they should be offended by women writers writing women as weak, neurotic, indecisive whores.

You would have known this is false if you actually read women authors

I’ve read Jane Austin and the Brontë sisters. I’ve also read some of the tripe put out by Meyers and some passages of Fifty Shades. They are not the same.

The best female authors only know how to write about gay relationships.

I think some people just write weird erotic descriptions of people. I personally do not like it

I just describe common men except all his actions and ideas are slightly influenced by the biological imperatives of their uterus. It's really that easy.

Women basically only read books by other women, and women authors only write books for women to read. That isn't because men have failed to appeal to them, it's just because they're being marketed to by mostly female writers. Women typically enjoy the female characters in women-focused erotica written by men, for example. Reading for women is a very insular hobby, so 'men writing women' is just an easy thread for them to pick at to excuse themselves for only reading other women. 'She breasted boobily to the stairs' is unironically a great sentence, though.

It's true that most men don't write women well, but also most women don't write men well, though you're not going to see social media parodies about that. There's some rare exceptions like Patricia Highsmith.

That's because they relate more to descriptions of female neuroses than boobie descriptions

When a writer writes, he has a purpose for his writing. Kill yourself if you want to make the writer write in the way you want.

If the writer's goal is to write about a realistic woman, he will write In a way that makes you relate to the female character and believe that she is a real woman.most of writers are married.and have met women in the real life. Writers are not incels like you.

I think it’s because good storytelling is an expression of one’s own personality (because it has to be) and that makes it hard to tell it from an opposite sex point of view. Women usually don’t write good male characters either

The weird thing is that women keep reading male writers.
They complain about them incessantly for liking booba but they still keep reading.
Like they complain about depictions of violence against women then read serial killer chops women into pieces books.
They just like complaining.
Men had to read Ethan Frome in high school and that was enough to convince them to never read another woman ever again.

>She breasted boobily to the stairs, and titted downwards.
As absurd and comical as it all is, I do seriously love this sentence.

It's genuinely good. 'Breasted boobily' perfectly evokes a sort of playful bouncy meandering, and 'titted downwards' forces your tongue to take the steps with her as you pronounce the twin T's then shift away for the double D's. Not to mention how the similar sounds are perfectly separated by the comma, bringing the shift from one action to the other into sharp focus. It's good shit

Based prose appreciator.

I'm writing a book with women in it (and men). I think I'm doing alright but sometimes I wonder. Anyone have tips (not meme tips or cock tips) for writing women that are three-dimensional?

Use the women in your life as examples: Mother, grandmothers, sisters, aunts, cousins.

Why should anyone relate to a character?

How true is the fact that you post this garbage nearly every single day and abaolutely nobody gives a fuck? Go ahead, I'll wait.

Here’s a (You), I know it’s not enough to satisfy you

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>analyzing the form of prose is reddit
Genuinely, with no irony, kill yourself.

I haven't read any classics that describe women like this. She exclusively reads erotica and then complains that it's erotic.

Most women can't write realistic male or female characters. They are clouded by delusion. Women read books by other women because they love living in fantasy googoo gaagaa land where women are perfect trashy romance whores and everyone loves them (except for the incel gross icky guy that no one likes anyway). Jane Austen is close to being realistic and relatable, but even she has her own retarded conceptions that are unrealistic.

Uoh, I'm literally quaking here.

>Thinks the “analyzing prose” part is what exposed him
>/r/eddit

>women that are three-dimensional
OP said relatable not realistic

>Anyone have tips (not meme tips or cock tips) for writing women that are three-dimensional?
I just write them as people. Simple as. There are a few differences on average though that you'd want to add in.
>women tend to be more passive, things happen to them more than they seek them out or they have to act in response
>women are a lot more conscientious of consequences socially, they are also (on average) more sympathetic (not empathetic, but women do offer pity at the very least far more often than men in my experience)
>they tend to favor cooperation and subversion to competition and confrontation, this does not mean they cannot be competitive or confrontational, but they will avoid it when possible
>they are more emotional, not on the outside necessarily, but most definitely on the inside
>they tend to rant about the things going wrong for them or openly discuss their feelings, they will avoid talking about problems if it is the fault of the person who they are talking to, again, they prefer to avoid confrontation (this also leads to them feeling misunderstood, its a vicious cycle)
>they can be more "dignified", less willing to talk about more "gross" aspects of life, more cautious and less willing to offend
>more maternal and willing to care for others on average
>more likely to be jealous, petty, manipulative, etc

>double D's

what if all those people suck

any books where the author purposely omits gendering their characters?

Most people suck, so they'll probably be relatable.

Just consider this: You don't need to motivate them. Women just do things. They follow their feelings. So the legitimate answer to "why would she did that?" is unironcially lolidk

exactly.

this is actually a very good and fair summary of sex differences, probably the best I've seen on the internet

Any accurate literary portrayal of my mom would be scoffed at as incel-tier misogynist drivel

And? Incels will like your book

thanks

Because thinking like someone else is difficult. How many women can write good men? Not many. Same thing. You should just appreciate the created characters as what the other sees of you.

All femoids deserve to be covered in 2% milk.

*female authors

Avatar, teen titans, icarly, tomb raider, last of us. Are you retarded OP?

How to write women?
Think of a man and take away reason and accountability.

>women tend to be more passive, things happen to them more than they seek them out or they have to act in response.

I agree with this. Women are lazy. You can see this in how Women Hate to do even easy work of taking care of the house
>women are a lot more conscientious of consequences socially, they are also (on average) more sympathetic (not empathetic, but women do offer pity at the very least far more often than men in my experience).

And this is well. Women like to put there image in society as pure. sympathetic Yes, women always like to be the center of attention. pity yes. by Being lazy they like to put men in the friend zone .
>they tend to favor cooperation and subversion to competition and confrontation, this does not mean they cannot be competitive or confrontational, but they will avoid it when possible.

Yes again they love to manipulate people and hate hard work
>they are more emotional, not on the outside necessarily, but most definitely on the inside.

They are emotional, yes they have a lot of anxiety about themselves
>they tend to rant about the things going wrong for them or openly discuss their feelings, they will avoid talking about problems if it is the fault of the person who they are talking to, again, they prefer to avoid confrontation (this also leads to them feeling misunderstood, its a vicious cycle)

yes
>they can be more "dignified", less willing to talk about more "gross" aspects of life, more cautious and less willing to offend.

Wrong as you saw in the feminist movemant.Women like to offendmen when they feel confident of their safety.
>more maternal and willing to care for others on average.
go fuck yourself.Men love children as much as women love them.

It's bullshit to say that there is a magical link between a woman and her baby. All you have as evidence is that women produce Oxytocin during pregnancy, the same hormone that you feel when you take a shit.

>more likely to be jealous, petty, manipulative, etc.
yes

Have sex

>How true is the fact that men can't write relatable female characters?
A character is not good because it's relatable. I don't know where that notion came from, but it's definitely a meme. Also, to answer your question, Madame Bovary and Anna Karenina.

>women tend to be more passive, things happen to them more than they seek them out or they have to act in response
women are more passive but the why is important here. because they are weaker they will avoid more situations which they view to be dangerous.
>women are a lot more conscientious of consequences socially, they are also (on average) more sympathetic (not empathetic, but women do offer pity at the very least far more often than men in my experience)
because of said weaker state they tend to rely more on others which gives then greater social abilities
>they tend to favor cooperation and subversion to competition and confrontation, this does not mean they cannot be competitive or confrontational, but they will avoid it when possible.
weaker = more cautious usually see above
>they are more emotional, not on the outside necessarily, but most definitely on the inside
You cannot be more emotional. However, women tend to think about why they feel emotional far less than men, and tend to get into social situations where emotional vulnerability is more advantageous for survival.
>they tend to rant about the things going wrong for them or openly discuss their feelings, they will avoid talking about problems if it is the fault of the person who they are talking to, again, they prefer to avoid confrontation (this also leads to them feeling misunderstood, its a vicious cycle)
>they can be more "dignified", less willing to talk about more "gross" aspects of life, more cautious and less willing to offend
>more maternal and willing to care for others on average
see above
>more likely to be jealous, petty, manipulative, etc
not inherently and also it depends on the type of manipulation usually.
Notice the pattern here though? They are weaker physically and so they need to find alternatives to brute force and confrontation.

i cant

The answer to this question is that all the people who tweet this stuff are Reading Shitty Books. That's it. The authors they read can't write women because they can't write anything. Do you think Dickens writes women like this? Or Joyce? Or Shakespeare? They read airport novelist hacks and YA and then complain when they write poorly.

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This is literally hairsplitting. The fact is that men have an easier time describing women:
1. literary history is by female admission, male (the cause may be disputed, yet these facts may offer some insight: men are on average, taller (thus they see the entirety of the female, while the female only sees for example 97% of the man) and according to IQ distribution, cluster *around* women, inhabiting both of the reaches with more frequency, giving them a more rotund and fulfilled view of femininity.)
2. because they experience less gutteral anxiousness as to the integrity of their own person, thus they feel more apt to make a judgement, especially one of love.
So women need to pretend to be deeper than they are. Their entire being is an affectation. The gift of women comes with a curse; they are the 'prize' (this is the philosophy of 'their' most intellectually honest, ie. they follow conclusions) so it's only fitting that their 'true self' is decided again and again, in an inexhaustible 'lucky dip.'
This is what men know about women - it may be false. Any women care to discuss?

>writing women that are three-dimensional?
Only half a joke - give them outlier body proportions.

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You have one fucking life, you shouldn't waste it reading w*m*n "authors"

>actual women on Yea Forums
kek. Men just project their ideals onto women in their lives. Most expect too much.

user this is the most autistic shit anybody has ever posted on this website. i love you

>Men just project their ideals onto women in their lives.
So men literally write the script? That's the 'problem' I was going to include. See:
>they experience less gutteral anxiousness as to the integrity of their own person
Women are the sacred effigy - they exist to give man just enough substance to argue his sanity, but truly inhabit a world totally incomprehensible. Occasionally in strange pleas, they enter this world and act like intellectual poltergeists, moving things around. Man wakes up from a horny stupor and realises, he's not dealing with a goddess, but the 'cosmic anima' who is superimposed, no, bound to his hands, via Logos.
They probably do expect too much; as women are the Name, such is the 'Pain of the Game.'
Thanks user