Doesn't it bother you that this board is just about recent anime and there's no attention paid to older works?

If you haven't watched anime since, say, 1985, you don't belong here.
If you never bought bootleg VHS subs from some rando in hawaii you don't belong here.
If you haven't spent at least two years in japan, you don't belong here.
If you can't speak, read, and think in japanese, you don't belong here. Consequently, if you need "subs" or "translations when", then you don't belong here.
If you weren't here during the Yea Forums-/jp/ split, you don't belong here.
If you weren't here during the "daytime Yea Forums" and "nighttime Yea Forums" wars of 2007, you don't belong here.
If you didn't get a Christmas Cake as a penpal along with the rest of Yea Forums back in 2010, you don't belong here.
If you didn't participate in any of the production steps of Katawa Shoujo, you don't belong here.
If at any time you have ever watched a shonen series willingly and of your own volition and enjoyment, you don't belong here.

Your post has literally nothing to do with this thread.

>old popular anime or old trainwrecks are something special
Yeah bro watch some Cobra. It's badass anime for special kids. Not uncool kids but cool kids

What is there left to discuss? If you're a newfag that hasnt watch gunbuster, slayers, lodoss, louie, eva, UC gundam and etc you need to go to the archives and fucking catch up

retroactively lurk 20 years before posting

If Yea Forums is full of old people that would make sense. But if it has younger people it ought to have threads discovering classic works for the first time.

I'm an old person who only got into anime recently, so I guess I count as an honorary young person. Almost everything I watch is old, because I try to watch the best things, and most good things are old.

I don't make new threads though because when I do people say I'm a faggot and tell me to go back to r*dd*t.

>If Yea Forums is full of old people that would make sense. But if it has younger people it ought to have threads discovering classic works for the first time.
I'm a young person just going back and visiting the classics for the first time myself but I don't really make threads about them. I'll post in those threads if they're already up though.

I just go to Yea Forums archives or old forums to read discussions about older anime I've just watched.

A lot of the questions and points I want to discuss regarding pre-2000s anime have already been answered by forum posts between 1998-2008.

The old older anime worthy of in depth discussion are stuff that's only recently been subbed. Everything else that's had subs for 15+ year or were dubbed 25+ years ago has been exhausted of discussion.

Oscar...

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On the one hand, I'd love to see what a newer version of the whole saga would look like- Captain Harlock, Maetel, Emeraldas, et al, but at the same time I really really don't want to see a newer version.

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I'd be down to see a Captain Harlock remake as long as its given the same love, respect and care that the Yamato remake has.

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Check /m/. They discuss old non /m/ titles too. But to discuss old anime X for example you need people who watched anime X not so long ago and their memory is fresh. Not all titles make such big impact on you so you can't even remember them. A lot anons possible watched anime X but remember a little about show itself. Like I probably watch ongoings since 2008 but you don't see 2008 anime discussed in Yea Forums even if they were popular here except may 1-2 titles. Same for 2012 anime etc etc. If someone create Kobato/clamp thread right now I will not able to discuss anything despite watching this show in ongoing. I don't remember anything outside if cute Kobato. You need same minded folks who decoded to watch same old anime in same time to have good discussion. Even of pre-2000s threads it's hard to do this.

I've seen plenty of old works and discussed them to death. Old anime that are loved still get threads every now and then. This is just the way of things.

I watched Rose of Versailles and got to episode 14. Pretty good show but I got into Innocent a lot more and ended up dropping it. :^( Should I continue?

Go ahead and make your 100th thread about how great the prison scene in Joe was then. Most of the old anime threads on Yea Forums are just the same popular stuff over and over again. Did you know that Akira is animated really well? Why can't all anime look like it. We really need to talk about that again.

The threads can pop out in Yea Forums during different time. EU time or US time so you can even skip discussion simply by not being here.

No, because it's more difficult to talk about completed works in general. Take the OP picture, Rose of Versailles is a very straightforward (and good) drama. There's nothing to discuss about it aside from how much you love Oscar, so threads tend to be short and not that interesting. The plot points discussed have already been discussed before. With ongoing anime and manga you can at least talk about what you expect to happen next and whatnot.

The only older shows that have interesting discussions are shows where a lot can be left
up to interpretation like Utena.
Yes, you should continue.

Yeah, doing that constantly and chiming for the old days would unironically turn you into a baby boomer in spirit, despite being a mere gen x, millennial or zoomer.

Because we've largely talked about all those older anime already. Nothing is stopping you from making a thread about it if you have something interesting to talk about

>I don't make new threads though because when I do people say I'm a faggot and tell me to go back to r*dd*t.
I'm gonna go ahead and assume you're starting threads like a total faggot

See, this is something I could get behind. If they kept her poise, her attitude, the whole gestalt of her character, I'd be on board. She was bold, cool, calculating, skilled and poised as fuck.
Also a temper. Literally went to war with an interstellar empire because they had the audacity to paint a jolly roger on their ships.

You people really need to lurk more because you have no fucking clue about anime or the board you're posting onto

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This seems like a good thread to ask. Why do people out there gatekeep some older anime? Some out there keep it to themselves and would rather it die with them than share it. I don't see people do this with tv shows, movies or video games. What's the deal Yea Forums? If you don't have access to a special private tracker club like Animebytes, you're fucked. It's very unfortunate. There are shows I and others will never be able to try because of this.

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read the above post you fucking faget before fucking off to r*dd**

But there is. Pre-2000s threads are almost always present.

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Just look at /vr/ if you want to know why people don't constantly talk about old stuff. The only active thread on that board is the Doom general, which is basically a /vg/ thread about a game that is still getting new stuff from the community. No one claps with excitement after seeing yet another Mario World thread because there is nothing new to talk about and if you want to post about some super old obscure game then you will have to accept that most people won't have that fresh on their mind in the first place and probably can't contribute anything to your discussion.

Speaking of old anime, they really had the guts to portray notVietcong, notCuban revolution and insert references to the 70s terrorists in the anime about pre-revolutionary France.

Shut the fuck up!!

>Why do people out there gatekeep some older anime?
There's a number of reasons.
1. it's usually licensed, so finding anything out there is tough.
2. Most copies are of old fandubs. Think TV recording to VHS, copied from VHS to VHS to VHS to VHS, then digitally captured.
2a. The digital captures were done when everyone had competing ideas of what codecs should be used. RealMedia? XviD? DivX? Quicktime? and they're usually 240x or if you're really really lucky, 480x.
3. Some studios master copies have been destroyed by fires, earthquakes, or by the company themselves going bankrupt and everything going up for auction.
4. Some master copies were put to laserdisk format, but who the fuck uses laserdisk?

>Some out there keep it to themselves and would rather it die with them than share it.
I've got boxes of old VHS tapes in my garage that I've no desire to haul out. I don't own a VCR, and ... frankly speaking I have no idea how I could hook up a VCR to my TV, which has a couple HDMI ports and an ethernet port and that's it. It seems like a looooot of effort for a small amount of reward.
>If you don't have access to a special private tracker club like Animebytes, you're fucked.

That I can't help you with. I don't have an animebytes account, so I don't know what they have to offer. I have all sorts of anime that I've seen since the late 80's (like I said, on VHS) but the amount of effort expended to capture a digital copy of thirty-year-old VHS tapes isn't worth it.

I don't think it's a conscious decision. that scenario actually does happen with movies though. the private tracker kara has tons of obscure movies, with some being subtitled by users on the site, that don't get uploaded anywhere else, not even passthepopcorn. I don't know if there's a rule against it or what, but it is annoying when you're trying to dive into obscure yakuza films and you can't find them anywhere
with anime I think it's more the fact that outside of bigger stuff like lupin and gundam, people won't continue to seed old shows on a site like nyaa where there's no ratio tracking.

Yea Forums only talks about anime they shit on
people that watch old anime tend not to shit on them (it's their sacred cow after all)
therefore no old anime

Not really. The actual series people are watching or reading is more what bothers me. Reading mostly since even with a couple of threads every month for certain monthly series the board is still mostly made up of series from WSJ. Anime is kind of different since for me at least seasonal anime isn't something I really care about and most of it doesn't seem very good.

There's also not really much to say about most older series I imagine. It's the same with most boards, which is why a lot of them tend to lean towards newer stuff. I mean imagine a pre-2000s thread expanded to an entire board. It would either be a wasteland or people circlejerking about the same kinds of shit people in the 90s were talking about.

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I still expect every noteworthy 70's anime to get a remake in the next decade or so. They've remade LOGH and they've remade Berserk, they remade Devilman, they even made a spin-off of Ashita no Joe with Megalo Box, so it's only a matter of time before the industry is creatively bankrupt enough to do a remake of RoV or something from the Leijiverse again.

>There's also not really much to say about most older series I imagine.

It's the exact opposite for me.
There's lots to say about older anime. Characters are more real, more *there*. Animation is usually (though not always) top tier.
Usually the music is typical 80's-90's pop or synth crap, but you legitimately get the feeling the music is there to emphasize the setting, not to push some jpop crap idol album.

Finally, everything post 2000-ish is just derivative work. You can't help but feel like
"oh, yet another battle shonen with power ups and training arcs." or "oh just another high school anime" or "oh just another spin on the tsundere girl with the heart of gold."

Older series, people actually cared about the product they were putting out. It had value. It had tangible fucking weight. They literally *had* to put out quality shit, otherwise the company wouldn't survive.

New series are just fire-and-forget throwaway trash that is a sad, shit mockery of actual genius that already aired 30 fucking years ago.

Instead of "generic moeblob that UGUU AM I KAWAII UGUU" this character had actual motivations and feelings. They could have stepped out of the animated world and into our world and functioned as members of society, and not crammed somewhere in some asylum for being a caricature of a person with a horrible case of autism or the Downs.

I could talk for days about the relationship development between Misa and Hikaru from Macross, but you'd get three words from me about the relationship between what's-his-face and what's-her-name from Macross Delta: bullshit derivative crap.

Modern anime: not worth talking about. watch it forget it, move onto the next like a consumer.

Older, original anime: I could talk for DAYS about each episode, each character, plots, subtext, the whole world in general.

There is a constant progress in anime, so why discuss inferior old stuff?

RoV was supposed to get a movie remake a while back. Not sure what happened to it though.

you need to see the state of the anime industry and the japanese economy as a whole to understand how myopic this comment is, and why you should rather read manga

>Finally, everything post 2000-ish is just derivative work. You can't help but feel like
Literally the same for most older works that are praised. Even if they're innovative for anime (which is usually not the case) they're just putting shit that's been done in books or movies into anime and the people that only watch anime don't realize they're watching something just as derivative as moe sol 2934078.

When you discuss the ongoing, you are sure that there are people who watch it with you and you just finished the same episode. But even if there are people who watched the old anime you watched, they probably did it long ago, so you need a lot of coincidences to get a good discussion.

All the more reason that they'll probably try again eventually.

Go watch some shit like Voltes V and you'll change your tune. You only think the way you do because you just go back and watch the finely curated list of classics.

Not really, no. Older anime was discussed when it came out. That's not to say they shouldn't be discussed anymore but time simply moves on.

What do you want from AB, user?

Yea Forums has always been like this, first time I came in 2011 I tried to start a Haruhi thread and got told to fuck off to Yea Forums. It's just the board culture man.