What made Gohan's SSJ2 transformation work despite how poorly written it was?
What made Gohan's SSJ2 transformation work despite how poorly written it was?
Bentley King
Asher Sullivan
Well for starters, it wasn't bad writing.
Kevin Myers
Gohan had shown signs of great power throughout the Saiyan invasion and Namek arcs. It finally came to fruition in the Cell arc.
Ian Howard
Same thread yesterday
Jaxon Ross
It didn't, now cry
James Rivera
>Gohan has to get over this random pacifism he developed
>gets triggered by the death of an Android that he had never interacted with before
That bad writing
Jace Davis
>What is empathy
hello npc
Jacob Cooper
Gohan has always been a pacifist. Is it even possible to speed read Dragon Ball? Shit is basic as fuck. And 16 was but what tipped the iceberg. Seeing his friends suffer led up to it..
Jonathan King
Atmosphere. It was played up really well. Cell was the biggest asshole on screen at the moment and then he just rubbed salt in the wound by crushing the one giving Gohan a pep talk. It was immensely cathartic to watch his smug instantly turn into panic.
Jose Powell
>Gohan has always been a pacifist.
He always fought when he needed to though, but he refuses to fight Cell
Jaxson Ramirez
Gohan will never be as based as this again.
Anthony Perez
>an arrogant dumbass that got his dad killed
>based
Xavier Rivera
>pacifism he developed
even more weird considering he never really enjoy all the studying chichi put him through.
Luis Stewart
We were ten years old.
Jose King
>He always fought when he needed to though, but he refuses to fight Cell
Nigga let daily dose die because he didn't want to fight.
Camden Diaz
Sad but true. Still happy this moment existed. It's the closest the Dragon Ball franchise ever got to replicate the sheer awesome rejoice of Goku beating Frieza at Namek.
Kevin Murphy
Goku dying is a common occurrence. It's literally meaningless.
If anything the heroic sacrifice was poor writing that carried itself entirely on the moment as when you take even a second to think about it, oh hey dragon balls.
Luis Thompson
That was his first fucking battle and he was 5. Not the same against Cell
Lucas Gray
I like how it was executed. It's dumb writing and it demands characters to forget their reusable macguffin. But in the heat of the moment it gets to be heavily emotional and for a moment one forgets about dragon balls as well. Also, resurrection or not having your father die for you when you're fucking eleven has to fucking suck.
Joseph Smith
Oh well
Leo Rodriguez
Just the visuals and music, Spirit vs Spirit is this really weird song that seems like it doesn't even belong in dragonball if you compare it to all the songs in DB,Z,GT(jp)and even to this day Super.
The way the song starts of slow and quiet and leads up to this epic chant into the normal lyrics is kinda like a musical representation of Gohan's rage boiling over and continuing to increase as the chorus does. As said the visuals too the a lot of great use of the other combatants faces and the pressure flowing from Gohan causing this level of respect (everyone literally stop what they're doing even the fucking Cell jrs. to turn and go WHAAT THE FUCK IS THAT". It's set up good, however as others have said the setup itself was kinda bad writing and what it lead to after was pretty shitty but it was a hell of a lot better than his SSJ transformation that's for sure.
Brandon Johnson
>let Kakarott die
>not based
?
Daniel Russell
Gohan was never a pacifist. He was just a reluctant fighter, he wasn't addicted to fighting like Goku. He wouldn't turn down a fight to save the world. He fought the saiyans and consented to go to Namek. Pacist Gohan was shit writing, he would never turn down fighting Cell to save the earth.
Nathan Jackson
god i want broly be become a part of the main cast
Jaxson Barnes
Aside from Gohan sudden pacifism, it wasn't bad writing. His power was foreshadowed ever since the Raditz arc and more prominently Toriyama had drop hints about Gohan's eventual succession during Cell arc.
Ayden Roberts
Becoming SSJ in short amount of time.
Mason Ross
Piccolo reacting to Gohan.
Ian Wood
Unimpressed with Goku's display of dominance that makes Vegeta cower.
Jace Cruz
Even during the Goku vs Cell fight, he wondered why everyone keep shilling for Goku.
Dominic Campbell
Tell that to Namek Freeza arc. Dipshit.
Ayden Jackson
Finally culminating to his fight with Cell. Too bad the fight was dogshit.
John Lewis
That's implying Cell's strength is greater, not his own.
Gabriel Robinson
You're forgetting he was like 9 years old.
Benjamin Flores
Could someone explain to me how Dragon Ball became such a popular manga and I mean exclusively in Japan. Don't care about the anime wave for the USA because the USA is full of idiots and pussies who grow up with "action" cartoons where you cannot show people getting punched in the face.
What did Dragon Ball offer to Japanese audiences that made it unique because action and fights have been a thing in Japanese mangas even before Dragon Ball existed. And if we're honest the writing of Dragon Ball is very much shit.
Henry Sanders
No, he didn't give jack shit about Cell. Gohan was using HIMSELF as a measuring stick to Goku's strength. He wondered why everyone goes gung ho when what Goku has shown wasn't impressive. He didn't know he had become stronger than Goku by that point. That's why at the end of the fight, he thought Goku wasn't trying.
Bentley Foster
How is he a pacifist in the cell arc? He agreed to fight Cell after Goku.
James Hughes
And after beating Cell he "enjoyed" the studying bullshit and convinced himself it was great to just become a fighter Has-Been. I really hate Chichi, she really destroyed Gohan. I'm not going to pretend Goku is a good father, but Chichi is also very much a shit mother. She's the kind of mother whose children either kill once they snap or as soon as they move out of the house they stop speaking with their mother and disappear completely never to be heard from again (except maybe to force her into an old people's home to finish rotting in there and eventually die in there).
Carter Torres
That's a good question. Did hnk not have enough energy beams?
Tyler Richardson
it was well drawn, visually distinct and done exceptionally well, not sure if there's anything else to it.
Jaxson Phillips
Wrong, your head canon doesn't change reading comprehension.
Gavin Long
No you're wrong.
Elijah Morales
no u
Brayden Moore
>frieza arc
you mean the arc where he fought only after snapping cause of the assholes that were killing innocent slug people?
Elijah Moore
People confuse him giving Cell a chance to back off as him refusing to fight.
Henry Young
yeah gohan basically had a sudden 180 in character development there. I can forgive it on basis of just not wanting a goku 2.0
Tyler Ortiz
When did he turn down fighting Cell?
Jack Martinez
Speedreader or retard? It’s impossible to know
Jace Phillips
How was it a headcanon when Gohan himself was taken aback that Goku has been using his full strength at the end of the fight?
Owen James
Okay, go ahead and try to defend Gohan deciding not to fight Cell. I'll wait.
Hunter Garcia
you were a child at the time
David Howard
What made SJ4 work despite it was bad writing over three bad writings?
Juan Hill
wait meant 3.
Sebastian Lopez
>Tamashi vs Tamashi
>Chad Falconeur
That's all there is to it
Christian King
Catharsis. Despite being poorly written the audience is like Pavlov's dog salivating at the next power up. It's the entire shounen genre and the hook with different bait; Naruto after it and My Hero after that.
Zachary Jones
mostly due to the hype from the beginning of his arc
Josiah Nguyen
retard