Is it worth watching ?

>wan piss gets good in the episode 900 lmaoooooo

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To be fair, you have to have a very low IQ to enjoy One Piece.

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Read it instead, or watch the One Pace edit

i started yesterday and i am currently on chapter 20, already good

>hunternigger has to derail yet another thread
Worst fanbase on/a/

I would read it instead. If you don't like it by Arlong Park you should drop it.

It's like a brazilian soap opera but for faggots, it never ends.

just watch ONE PIECE KAI

I tried reading the manga because I have no patience for the anime. Didn't like it. formulaic, shallow characters, repetitive, overly dramatic when it gets dramatic. That's my shitty opinion

one piece is fucking trash
only mouth breathing retards like it

It's goat because it is that long, name any other adventure anything that is that huge in scale. I mean the character polls have a 100 plus characters and still miss out people.

Would LOGH be considered 10/10 if it wasnt a 110 episode war epic.

it was fine until 100 episode arcs became the norm

>name any other adventure anything that is that huge in scale
Detective Conan

Turns to shit after episode 500 or so. Pretty good, especially at the start though. I say watch it and switch to manga eventually.

just read the digitally colored manga

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This. Sadly this shitty cartoon is a perfect example of what the show it now. Before Water 7 the pacing was good.

>too many episodes
i hate this meme, are you going to die tomorrow user?

The pacing used to be pretty standard for long running shounen (~1 chapter per episode and a lot of filler arcs) but I wouldn't really call that good pacing.

>Possibly only top 25 if you've already read a ton of stuff
Top 25 if you have read no more than 25 things, you mean?

Roughly what precent of the one piece anime is filler?

nah, i started reading it

can't die until i finish it

I've read a lot of shonen including some that Yea Forums never even talks about like Slam Dunk. One Piece is one of the best out there. It has some pacing issues but that's my only complaint about it. One Piece is a series that takes it's time with literally everything for better or worse.

I've read up to about chapter 200 until I could take it no more. No, it doesn't get better. It just gets very repetitive.
Though I've been told that having read to chapter 200 is apparently not enough to judge it or something.

I don't appreciate you trying to drag HxH into this shit.

>Would LOGH be considered 10/10 if it wasnt a 110 episode war epic.
LoGH is boring shit. That it's unbearably long makes it even worse. Kinda like One Piece, but not quite as silly.

>never talks about
>Slam Dunk
remember when kuroko was airing and literally every moron mentions slam dunk
slam dunk is cute tho, i once went to an asian restaurant and they had pic related as decor
food was ass, but at least it looked nice

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at the very least, one piece wasn't constantly reiterating plot points with redundant inner monologues. As basic as he is, luffy is way more interesting than tanjiro specifically because oda doesn't feel the need to tell us everything he's thinking. This is coming from someone who got into one piece recently and watched three episodes of yaiba. One Piece is an amazing adventure story, and doesn't feel the need to pander to fourteen-year-olds with obvious edgebait because it doesn't need pointless shock value to engage viewers. It is interesting on its own merits. Begone Yaiba shill.

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lurk for 2 years before posting you retarded faggot

talking about the manga specifically

will reading one piece allow me to acquire the same set of skills as reading literature?

One Piece is enjoyable from its start and makes the jump from good to fantastic during Baratie.
Anyone who tells you it gets good at Enies Lobby or Marineford is full of shit and only into the series for fights, which is neither its focus or strong suit. It's an adventure serial.

for me, arlong park is when the manga becomes amazing.

No. You might in fact unlearn basic reading skills if you keep reading One Piece for too long.

Well it at least gets good as opposed to KnY

>Watch

READ, NIGGA! READ!

ye ;3

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We have ufotable on our side

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Excuse me sir, do you know how fast you were reading the manga sir?

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It's only good if the only thing you consume is Popular Shounen (and by popular, I mean American popular).
Next to Naruto, Bleach, HeroAca, etc. it seems good, but when you compare it to stuff like Kaiji, Devilman, Monster, Punpun, Akagi, JoJo's, Berserk, even other Shounen like Dai no Daibouken, Hunter x Hunter and the prime of DB, it really just pales in comparison.
I'm not even that big into manga as well.

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Watch the first 150 episodes at least. You'll miss out without the music and voice acting at least. After that if you want you could just read the manga, but it loses something without the soundtrack. Plus early depictions of Haki in the anime were actually badass instead of how they are now, which is more meh.

Watching the prison and prison break arc plus the battle afterwards was fun, but only if you skipped all the "LAST TIME ON DBZ" bullshit they do for TV. Some scenes you have to see to get the full effect or joke. Like the initial Prince scene from Crocodile Arc. Hilarious.

>literally the attention span of a zoomer
People these days really can't mentally sit through anything longer than 30 episodes, huh?

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Maybe like 10-20%, at a certain point OP anime rarely has filler episodes. Its the padded filler you need to worry about where the show moves at like 1/3 to 2/3 a chapter per episode and the main reason why it has so many episodes. Scenes like webm related that almost last a minute long that could easily be cut down.

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Funny how OPM season 2 has exactly the opposite problem - with manga scenes that needed to be explored more in depth that are needlessly rushed or completely removed, which in turn results in horrendous pacing problems.

correction: if you keep reading hunter x hunter.

>Monster
>Not 20th Century Boys
bad taste, and OP is as good as all of those

>Jojo
>HxH
>Prime DB
>Not American popular shonen

shit opinion defenses activated.

Fuck off, butthurt Wanpissfag.
Nothing out there is as dumb and repetitive as Oda's "masterpiece".

>bad taste
20th Century Boys is on my "to read" list"
>and OP is as good as all of those
No it really isn't.
Kaiji has been running for almost as long as One Piece and has managed to remain continually tense despite Kaiji having been on the edge of falling apart for over 750 chapters. It also develops/extrapolates on characters like Kaiji, Endou, Tonegawa, Chang and Mario far better than One Piece develops any of its characters, and some of those characters are barely in the series. Tonegawa's greatest presence exists purely in the first arc. He never comes back, and is only really "present" in the second half of the second game, which occurs in the second half of Part 1, and he leaves the series before Part 1 is over, only one game later.
Endou is basically a cameo in Part 1, but he manages to be a main character of Part 2 and now Part 6 despite being gone for over a decade in real time.
Devilman is revolutionary, fuck off if you think One Piece even remotely compares.
Monster, Punpun, Akagi and Berserk have tight as hell stories and characters. Your dismissive statement proves you haven't read any of these.
The Shounenshit I listed afterwards is arguable. But I like them more, so piss off.
JoJo is only recently popular, like 2014ish.
HxH unironically pleb filters many people with the second arc.
Prime DB refers specifically to Red Ribbon Army up to the Saiyajin arc, and the only one out of those Americans care about is the Saiyajin arc.

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it's too slow. better to just read the manga because the pace in the anime takes ages.

Kill yourself huntershit. OP is better than togashi's pretentious garbage.

SKIP THRILLER BARK
ITS SHIT

I didn't even bring up HxH once. Why are you so obsessed with it? Just because it's not as shit as One Piece? Hell, then you should be obsessed with a lot of things out there!

God no, there has yet to be a single good episode in the 900s.

This is where I originally stopped watching. was only like a hundred episodes behind at the time, now im going at a snails pace and am around ~400 behind

there's a colored version out, read that

you're probably a hxhfag since they're the most vocal haters of OP.

>Devilman is revolutionary
>OP isn't
They're two of the most iconic series of all time, reread OP and this time with your brain on please

Ah, so you're just jumping to conclusions. Grow up, brainlet. Anybody with a modicum of taste dislikes One Piece.

>you're definitely a fan of this series because you don't like this shitty series!
amazing deduction skills

Try to make an actual argument next time, please.

What about One Piece is revolutionary, what boundaries is it pushing.
Being famous isn't revolutionary, and Mighty Atom did international fame before everybody else.
Adventure manga weren't unique when One Piece came around. Dragon Ball itself was an adventure manga.
Power system? JoJo's was already messing around with stands a decade before One Piece even existed.

No.

nah, only those with shit taste dislike it. love to here your reasons though.

*hear

Why don't you read and decide foy yourself you fucking retard

Arlong Park, Alabasta, Water 7/Enies Lobby, and Marineford are all iconic arcs. The series has a well thought out plot with lots of worldbuilding and loveable characters that each get their own goals and character development. It's mega success is because other series just can't compare to what it does.

>love to here your reasons though.
Shallow cardboard-cutout characters, repetitive storylines, riddled with genre-tropes. Next to no themes, no meta-narrative, no proper buildup and letdown of tension, no organic development of the plot as a whole. Horrible artistic style, even worse anatomy, no sense of depth and perspective, lineweight all over the place.

It's great, though because it's so long running they often put in odd filler to pace themselves behind the manga.
There are some particular shitposters that are jealous or salty about how popular it is while their series is both shit quality and absolutely horrendous at ever releasing anything.
If for some reason you don't personally like it, then your own taste is saying no to it and there is nothing we can do to make you supposedly change your mind, because it is your mind.

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>lots of worldbuilding
New island, copy-paste enemies and plot and rename a few things.
Repeat a few dozen times.
=> great worldbuilding

Is this how you think it works?

Did you literally just say that it's good because it releases often? Do you realize how stupid that kind of argument sounds?

Like I said, iconic doesn't mean revolutionary, which is the point you were arguing. There is nothing revolutionary in those arcs.
>The series has a well thought out plot with lots of worldbuilding and loveable characters that each get their own goals and character development.
Worldbuilding does not make a good story. Lovable is also subjective. The only characters I found legitimately endearing were Zoro and Usopp in my short time reading One Piece. A lot of characters were annoying (Luffy, Chopper, most of the minor villains) or laden with tropes (Sanji, Nami).
>It's mega success is because other series just can't compare to what it does.
It's easily not that good of a series compared to most of the Shounen I listed as counterpoints. One Piece often falls back on repeating arcs, where the gang goes to an island, they find out the guy in charge is an asshole, they beat up some jobbers, then fight the big bad, rinse and repeat ignoring Marineford, which is the arc that is continually brought up by you fags as being amazing, when in reality, it only seems great because it's the one time the manga breaks formula.
Also, you last sentence makes it seem like popularity = quality. In which case, I offer a counter-argument. Detective Conan. Tell me when One Piece gets its own airport and town faggot.

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Ok seriously now you really need to re-read the series with your brain on.
>N-no argument
keep seething. Kaiji is the only series mentioned that can compare to OP

You are reading into the post what you want to see hiatusfag.

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Not him, since he's not me, but
>Kaiji is the only series mentioned that can compare to OP
Before you were saying none of them listed could compare, but then I do a mini essay on Kaiji and suddenly that changes. This is essentially proving you haven't read ANY of the manga I listed, since I, and many others, consider a majority of them to be superior to Kaiji. In particular, Akagi, which is written by the same mangaka as Kaiji, is considered to be the mangaka's magnum opus.
Go back to Yea Forums. Read at least 100 manga before posting on Yea Forums.

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>I offer a counter-argument. Detective Conan
Not a good counter-argument, because Conan actually manages to have a central plot that it frequently moves forward, has an interesting core cast of characters that have arcs of their own and actually looks pretty great. Sure, it also follows a repetitive formula for its "cases", but it is, as a whole, indeed a much better manga than One Piece.

>Shallow cardboard-cutout characters,
plenty of characters get development.
>repetitive storylines,
only a few are repeated.
>riddled with genre-tropes
what does this mean? that it's a shounen?
>Next to no themes,
dreams, friendship, racism, sure no themes
>no meta-narrative
why does it need this?
>no proper buildup
many arcs have lots of chapters.
>letdown of tension,
examples?
>no organic development of the plot
there is tons of foreshadowing and setup.
>Horrible artistic style
subjective.
>even worse anatomy,
>no sense of depth and perspective, lineweight all over the place.
its suppose to be cartoon like.

world building is where the world and characters move and develop without the need of the strawhats doing anything. factions interact and the protagonist isn't the center of the world.

I know Conan is good. It managed to worm its way into my 3x3, I just love it so much.
It's a perfect mix of smart writing, good art, good characters and comfy. Only issue would be that the central plot moves forward slowly (or not at all at times, like back during some cases in the Vermouth arc), but the cases are just too comfy.

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>reading into the post what you want to see
So you didn't say that:
>they often put in odd filler to pace themselves behind the manga.
and
>salty about how [...] their series is [...] absolutely horrendous at ever releasing anything
?
I'd say that you very much made the argument that a tight release schedule makes for a better manga than an infrequent one. Which is the worst argument you could possibly make.
Stop getting defensive just for being called out on your shit.

I love this shitty edit

No. Not even worth a read.

Very solid 3x3.
You should post it over in the 3x3 thread, I think you haven't yet, even though I personally don't agree with all of them.

And, well, I was not trying to imply that you dislike Conan. Just pointing out that in this case, coincidentally, the more popular thing is also the better thing.

I occasionally post mine. Don't do it too often because whenever I go into a 3x3 thread I try to rate everybody's and if it's more than 50 images, I just ignore the thread.
Oh, and which ones do you disagree with? The ones I commonly see that get disagreements are HxH and I Am A Hero. HxH because shounenshit and I Am a Hero because a lot of people dislike the ending.

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Nah, I haven't read "I Am A Hero", and I do like HxH myself. (Of course, saying that in here makes everyone of the usual retards jump at you and call your arguments invalid because apparently you're not allowed to respect it for what it does right.)
It's Akagi, Kaishi and Kurosawa that I'm rather lukewarm about. I just don't quite connect with their storytelling styles and their protagonists. I don't find them badly written or anything, they're just not the type of thing that intrigues me enough to keep my attention.

As for the 3x3 thread, I think it has less than 20 unique grids in there. Most of the pics are padding and bumps.

Ah, I understand. FKMT's storytelling isn't really for everybody, it's a lot of exaggeration of the characters internal monologue to get across their current mental state, and he likes to pace things slowly and drag them out. He got a lot of backlash for doing that during Kaiji's 5th part, if you go on Amazon JP you'll see almost every volume from Kaiji Part 5 is at one star because fans got fed up with how much he was dragging out the events of the arc. It didn't help that he took one break from releases a month. The final card flip was hell, literally 5 chapters to flip a card.
I do love his character writing though, and going back through completed arcs and not having to wait week by week anymore is cathartic.

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Yeah, I guess the odd pacing is one of my issues. I'm also not one to connect with the main character of a story often, but rather look for some interesting side characters. But here the main characters seem to get the bulk of the characterization, and disproportionately so than in other manga.

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To be fair...

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>Assume 10 minutes because snacks
Is this why One Piece fags are all obese

I think it means more "you might get hungry/need to piss/etc." At least that's how I understood it.
As for the "all" crack, get fucked.

Imagine being this upset by the most blatant shitposting on all of Yea Forums. There's a reason people call One Piece fans retards.
Also, SnKfags are far worse.
And guess what, off topic as well.

What's worse is that this guy isn't even able to properly copypaste his shitty copypasta. Wanpissfags are the worst trolls even in their own threads.

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My friend got through it in 20 days. You'll be fine.

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>mostly civil discourse, only broken up by autist shouting boogieman names at people who don't like their favourite comic
>50th IP shows up and posts a screenshot of a copypasta
>continues to post screenshots of copypastas and tries to flood the thread with them because of a boogieman
How absolutely mindborken do you have to be to do shit this pathetic.

Gee, I wonder which janny is on duty today.

>plenty of characters get development.
No, none get development. I've read the first 200 chapters, not one single character developed one bit.
>only a few are repeated.
Shit defense. I take that as a concession, even though ALL of them are the same shit.
>dreams, friendship, racism, sure no themes
"dreams" is not a theme.
Friendship and racism aren't themes either, though themes could be connected to them. Quite befitting that you have no idea what a theme even is.
>what does this mean? that it's a shounen?
No. Please look up "trope".
>why does it need this?
Because it's completely superficial and devoid of meaning without a meta-narrative. Themes are, by the way, part of the meta-narrative.
>examples?
Examples for it not handling tension proplerly? Because, you know, I said that it does NOT have prober buildup and letdown of tension. No way I can give you an example for something that's not there.
>foreshadowing and setup.
Bullshit.
>subjective.
No, not subjective. Because
>its suppose to be cartoon like.
is not a good excuse for messing up the basics of drawing that much. Shit anatomy is shit anatomy. Shit perspective is shit perspective. Most comics get those right. Oda does not.

>world building is where the world and characters move and develop without the need of the strawhats doing anything.
You might want to look up "world building" as well, because your definition is not accurate.

>derails a thread and posts offtopic shit
>surprised when his posts are deleted
Just go back to Yea Forums where this behaviour is acceptable. One Piece will never be liked by Yea Forums because of faggots like you.

You're right. It's already liked on Yea Forums.

>Kimetsutard exposes himself as low attention span zoomer
Expected nothing less

Good animation doesn't fix an awful story.

>read the first 200
read more. OP is slow but they eventually develop.
>Shit defense.
how? there are lots of arcs in OP so it isn't so bad if a only a few get repeated.
>ALL
you didn't even read most of it.
>dreams" is not a theme.
yes it is. the whole point of OP is making your dreams come true. many characters have ambitions that drive the story.
>Friendship and racism aren't themes either
they are in the context of OP.
>no idea what a theme even is
I do. you don't though
>trope
so using standars shounen tropes is bad? Dragon ball is a classic for a reason
>completely superficial and devoid of meaning
who cares about being 2deep4u? a manga needs to be good.
>example for something that's not there.
you can't criticize something without any reason.
>Bullshit
aminoapps.com/c/anime/page/blog/one-piece-foreshadowing/ggt6_uQZdb5PndYllm4oXdBzxqREEV
>basics of drawing that much
oda can draw regular human beings with proper anatomy. he just chooses not to in order to allow a cartoon like feeling in his designs. if you don't like that then its fine so thats why its subjective.
>You might want to look up "world building
that is what world building is.

>Toei does such an abysmal job at pacing the anime that fans had to step in and clean their shit with One Pace.
I feel bad for anime onlys

>read more.
No. I've read a fifth of the whole thing and it was bad enough. How much more am I supposed to read before it "gets good"? If you have no character development for 200 chapters, why would it suddenly get better? And if it did, wouldn't that be even more evidence that the author is shit?
>how?
When your defense against repeated arcs is "only some", then that's not a defense at all.
>it isn't so bad if a only a few get repeated
Yes, it is. It's creative and intellectual bankruptcy by the author.
>they are in the context of OP.
No, they aren't. Friendship does not magically become a theme by context.
>I do.
Then stop giving me buzzwords and describe a theme properly.
>so using standars shounen tropes is bad?
No, I've never said that. Making your whole plot consist only of genre tropes is though.
>who cares about being 2deep4u?
Stop strawmanning. But at least you now admit that there are no themes in One Piece, as there is no meta-narrative.
>you can't criticize something without any reason.
I CAN criticize that something that should be there is missing. You really seem not to understand the basic argument: Tension should be properly handled in a narrative. That's writing 101. Buildup of tension, and release. One Piece doesn't handle those properly. I cannot give you an example for it dhandling it properly, because it's not there. I'm not criticising the letdown of tension, I'm criticising that it is not there.
>aminoapps
I repeat: Bullshit.
>oda can draw regular human beings with proper anatomy.
He doesn't do it. Do you have any evidence that he can?
>he just chooses not to in order to allow a cartoon like feeling in his designs.
Piss poor defense again. "I sure can get good grades at school, daddy. I just choose not to."
>that is what world building is.
No. It is not. Some factions interacting independently and some things happening independently do not constitute a world. Please look it up.

I don't. They made their choice.

>I've read a fifth of the whole thing
the manga is very long so things like that can take time.
>the author is shit?
no. it means that character development isn't at the forefront of his story. plot is. you don't need major character development to tell a good story.
>only some
it is when you make it out to be a huge problem. no shounen is flawless and OP's time skip has issues with recycled plots.
>creative and intellectual bankruptcy
see the above and even then I don't blame oda completely since OP has been going on for a long time.
>Friendship does not
yes it does because many victories and plot moments happen because of friendship. you read the first 200 chapters so you should know this.
>theme properly.
a theme is an idea or question that encompasses a story throughout it's runtime. in the case of OP, that theme is friendship which is explored frequently.
>consist only of genre tropes is though.
again I'll ask, why is this a bad thing? many other good shounen use tried and true shounen tropes for a reason.
>, as there is no meta-narrative.
there are themes but no meta narrative. OP isn't suppose to be thought provoking.
>it's not there.
it is there and since you're a speedreader I'll mention some.
>kuro's plan to destroy the village
>zoro, nami and vivi turning into statues
>build up of crocodile
>Bullshit
so no argument then? those are actual examples of foreshadowing.
>Do you have any evidence
look at the strawhats.
>Piss poor defense
you're complaining that it doesn't look like a samey anime/manga artstyle.
>do not constitute a world.
it is a part of it but world building consists of history, geography, politics, and religion. one piece has all these.

>the manga is very long so things like that can take time.
No. That's not how it works. 200 chapters are 200 chapters. You can accomplish a lot in those.
Do you know how much of a chore it is to work your way through 200 chapters you don't enjoy? I'm not going to read 800 more, just because at some point it might become better.
Other mangaka accomplish a full narrative arc in 200 chapters of the same length. Oda accomplished nothing. I do not need to reed five times as much to be able to judge that.
>character development isn't at the forefront of his story. plot is.
Bullshit again. Characters and plot go hand in hand. You can't have one without the other.
>I don't blame oda completely since OP has been going on for a long time
Then don't have it go on if you're running out of ideas. Really, you're not even trying to defend it at this point.

>yes it does because many victories and plot moments happen because of friendship
That doesn't make it a theme. Friendship itself cannot be a theme. Here, I'll show you how themes around friendship work. And because I know how much everyone in here loves HxH, I'll use that as an example:
HxH contrasts the characters' friendships with their loyalties to their families, their own desires and even their own well-being. The central theme around it is whether the value of having a friend compares to the level of sacrifice you have to commit to for its sake.

>why is this a bad thing?
Because it consists of nothing but tropes. Again: There's a difference between using tropes and consisting of tropes.
>OP isn't suppose to be thought provoking.
Great. No themes then, obviously.
>I'll mention some.
That's not how tension is handled. Look up "narrative momentum", and "rising/falling tension".
>look at the strawhats.
Horrible anatomy.
>you're complaining that it doesn't look like a samey anime/manga artstyle
No, I'm saying it looks like shit. There are many different manga styles anyway.
>one piece has all these.
Nope.

>Other mangaka
other mangaka aren't writing a 900+ chapter epic. there is such a thing called payoff.
>Characters and plot go hand in hand.
sometimes yes but they really don't. there are stories that focus mostly on characters or plot at the expense of the other. I'm not saying a work can deprived of either but that more focus is put on one over the other while still maintaining quality.
>if you're running out of ideas.
currently yes but I wouldn't write him off as creatively bankrupt since he already delivered many unique plots. anything could happen in the next arc.
>Friendship itself cannot be a theme.
It can. a theme can literally be any concept and its the author's job to have the story be about it or to challenge its notions.
>HxH
so you're a hunterfag.
>The central theme around it
OP is similar
>consists of nothing but tropes
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TropesAreTools
but that isn't a bad thing. execution is what matters and I'll take a cliche ridden story that plays up to it's strengths than a poorly writtem unique one.
>No themes then, obviously.
themes are story telling 101. almost all of them have it, even something as simplistic as HnK.
>That's not how tension is handled
but it is.
>Horrible anatomy.
explain.
>I'm saying it looks like shit.
coming from a hxhfag, this is amusing.
>Nope
>history
void century and poneglyphs
>geography
grand line, florian triangle, sky islands
>politics
alabasta civil war, reverie, fishman island arc
>religion
elbaf god, skypia arc

read it then, it will be shorter if you do

>other mangaka aren't writing a 900+ chapter epic
For a good reason: Other mangaka don't sell out that much.
>they really don't
Yes, they do. Necessarily. Otherwise, you get shit writing where the characters don't fit the narrative. One of One Piece's problems, certainly.
>many unique plots
If you say so. Not in the parts I've read though.
>so you're a hunterfag.
Oh, look, it's that "argument" again. I'm done with you after this post, troll. I'm not going to debate with you on that childish level.
>a theme can literally be any concept
No. Stop spouting shit. A "wooden table" cannot be a theme. "Love" cannot be a theme. And "friendship" cannot be a theme.
>OP is similar
No, it isn't.
>but that isn't a bad thing
Yes, it is. Again: Using tropes, fine. Making up a story from nothing but tropes, completely bland and unimaginative.
>almost all of them have it
One Piece doesn't. One Piece fails that "story telling 101", and not only in that aspect.
>but it is.
No, it isn't. Google "freytag drama structure" if you want to know what it actually is.
>explain.
No, I'm not going to "explain" anatomy. There's a 2000-character-limit. Take a photo of a person, compare. That's your explanation.
>coming from a hxhfag
Again, fuck off, retard. I specifically chose the HxH example to see whether you would stoop this low, and you indeed did. You have hereby lost this whole argument. I hope you're proud.
>void century and poneglyphs
That's not an elaborate history. But whatever, have your worldbuilding. I grant you that point, since you've practically given up on all others and with you going all "hunterfag", this debate is now over. Fuck off, troll.

based

Watch Nami's arc. The show peaked hard there. I think there's a movie of it now, too, so you can have some decent animation

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>don't sell out
doing what you're enjoying is selling out?
>Yes
they don't dude, you're not understanding what I am talking about. some stories are plot driven, others are character driven.
>One of
and how don't they fit the narrative? a group of pirates with dreams fit very well in a adventurous setting.
>I'm done with you after this post
its not meant to be a fallacy. I was just pointing out my correct deduction that you could be a hunterfag. your posting mannerisms clued me in.
>A "wooden table" cannot be a theme. "Love" cannot be a theme. And "friendship" cannot be a theme.
by "anything" I meant narrative related devices you dunce. love and friendship are themes because they there are stories entirely about them.
>No, it isn't
yes it is.
>Making up a story from nothing but tropes, completely bland and unimaginative.
OP is nothing but tropes done well, that's my point.
>One Piece doesn't
are you for real? how dense are you that you haven't notice the theme 200 chapters in?
>freytag drama structure"
which is exactly what those scenarios do. what, want me to describe how they fit in detail?
>Take a photo of a person, compare
so you want OP characters to have realistic anatomy? why the fuck should they? one piece humans are caricatures of actual humans which is what they should be given the intent. so as long as they resemble one anatomy isn't an issue.
>You have hereby lost this whole argument. I hope you're proud.
so not only do you refuse to properly reply to my point but you're running away because I pointed out your biases?
>That's not an elaborate history.
it isn't to you because you haven't gotten to that part of the story.
>have your worldbuilding
glad to see I humbled your stubborn ass.
>this debate is now over. Fuck off, troll.
I'm a "troll" for exposing you like the hxhfag you are? that is not what trolling is you newfag. run off then, bitch. I won this argument and proved once again that hxhfags are the shittiest fanbase on this board

>my correct deduction that you could be a hunterfag. your posting mannerisms clued me in.
>I'm a "troll" for exposing you like the hxhfag you are?
>hxhfags are the shittiest fanbase on this board
>I won this argument
Fuck off, you pathetic troll.

>Fuck off, you pathetic troll.
this ain't reddit you little shit. I call you out on something, you don't run away because of it. notice how I replied to all your points anyways? meanwhile your dumbass is leaving with no actual refutations. no user, you're the pathetic one like all hxhfags are.

quads of truth

proved my point. sasuga mods

gimme a link to read the manga pls

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Its fucking deep you retard. Most mangas may have complex power levels or adventure or whatever but Oda had unique takes on human experience, and quality story telling. Dragonball and JoJo have zero insight on psychology or sociology.

>mangas
Good thing you were baiting to begin with.

Toriyama
> Ha gay !!!
Oda
> We will gather all the homos and the trannies for world revolution and social justice...

What was your point?

To be honest I didnt really like it until crocodile and thats at like episode 120 but then I really got into it and watched it all. Its really dragged out but what the fuck else are you going to do?

Nice dubs op
>is it worth watching?
kinda, i did it but it has a shitload of filler which really take you out
>is it worth reading??
FUCK YES, EVERYTHING

Yes, very.
There's one stipulation: NEVER expect the pacing to be good. It's a nearly 1000 episode show.

Manga.

>prime of DB
One Piece is what Dragon Ball would've been if only the prime existed.

Stop typing like an idiot and lurk more.

>Devilman
Fuck off retarded, for fucks sake.
>Punpun
Yeah let's compare One Piece to Punpun, why not. What a retarded post

I mean, you're only saying that because you know a soft shounen can't compete with hard seinen in quality.

>hating on Devilman
As expected from some underage Wanpissfag. Get some taste.

ITT: mentally broken anons mistake cynicism for critical thinking

One Piece is kinda overrated but it has way more personality than most manga and some of the strongest continuity/worldbuilding you'll find in any work of fiction. If you like adventure serials you won't be disappointed OP

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Respond directly to the people you disagree with, instead of hiding behind general statements, you coward.