Garden of sinners

It's kind of both but Mitsuru was a slave to his Mystic Eyes in a way. The thing is once you set the future in stone that future can be killed by Shiki. By doing that, Shiki also killed Mitsuru from predetermination.

Association could fuck her shit up if she refused to cooparate. I dunno though i have only finished the movies today. There might be things that i'm missing.

> The thing is once you set the future in stone that future can be killed by Shiki.
I didn't know that was the case. Must have missed something...

She had a sealing designation on her throughout the whole time period of KnK, if the Association could actually get her they would've done it.
Unless you mean the Demon Slayer Clans, but even then the Asagami probably don't have what it takes to threaten Touko, who was already hard to get hold of even before accounting for how hard it is to put her down. And I doubt the other clans even cared, the Fujoh were seemingly inactive, the Ryougi aren't involved and the Nanaya may or may not be wiped out depending on where the timelines diverge from Tsukihime.

The Demon Slayer Clans are espers, not magi, and they're responsible to their own, which is why neither the Association nor the Church cares about them, same with the Kishu. The fact that Fujino has mystic eyes is incidental, she's not a magus.

>Tsukihime
I guess i should read/watch it? I was wondering what to watch first and ended up with knk.

>I was wondering what to watch first and ended up with knk.
Good choice, though it's not really representative of TM's current output.
>I guess i should read/watch it?
If you enjoyed KnK, then go for it, it's the closest thing thematically and even has some recurring plot elements and related characters (Touko's sister appears, for example). Bare in mind that it's a pretty old VN and was low-budget doujin even for its time, so don't expect much in terms of production values.

>2000
Well only 4y older than fate so i think i will be fine.

You say that, but TM was an actual company when they made FSN, Tsukihime was a doujin work made by about five people total, the production value differences are still pretty big.

The Counter Force set things up so it could recruit her later, I suppose

it's not like shiki is the fucking police

ehi kid, wanna join the counterforce and bring bridges down on people?

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Is there an anime with a protagonist like Kokuto?

I love how the bridge just appears and gets destroyed regardless of where the fight takes place. It's like Fujino is just destroying a random bridge somewhere and that somehow damages the enemy.

Shiki is not the police and she couldn't care less. There's a reason the title is garden of sinners.

>Why they left her with her power if she can barely see?
They were stronger than ever. How do you think she broke the bridge?

Read the novels casual.

>Association could fuck her shit up if she refused to cooparate.
>if the Association could actually get her they would've done it.
>Unless you mean the Demon Slayer Clans
Association can't do shit to either Aoko or Touko. Association are literally IRS/FBI agents armed with guns compared to Aoko who's literally doom guy with infinite BFGs and a nuke strapped to his beating heart plus has time magic. Touko is not as destructive but still stronger than most. She's an extra paint because she can't be killed and can escape capture at any time just by killing herself.

It's just wouldn't be worth the time/effort/humanresouerces spent by said IRS/FBI agents to go after either since the value of sealing Aoko/Touko is getting them alive so the higherups can experiment/exploit their circuits/sorcery/magic. The actual strong sorcerers are have the political roles and won't do shit. In short: It ain't happening.

I feel like he's talking about the Demon slayer clans. Those guys were a loose group even in their hayday, have long since fallen out of power, and mostly quit their slaying professions. They don't really give a fuck about each other as clans let alone a few reneges do. DS use ESP and aren't magicians.

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I mean, that was kind of my point. They literally couldn't get Touko despite her being wanted, so yeah.

Its stated that the association's presence in the east is pretty much nil, they probably had no idea where Touko was.

Soo lets say that someone drains all life from entire country/city. Perpetrator is not a magus.
So association is like
>I will pretend i didn't see that.
Is that right?
Not necessary good example but still.
Also can't talk about these demons since movies don't really talk that much about it.

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Not sure what you are referring to but the association wouldnt care unless it threatened to expose magecraft to the world. Pretty sure it was implied in waver case files that the association wouldnt care if a mage killed off tons of people unless it threatened to expose magecraft. But if individual mages heard about it, they might decide to get involved if they felt there was a benefit to it.

I believe her sense of pain, and with it her desire to kill became dormant again after the bridge incident. For whatever reason her eyesight and her telekinesis weakened dramatically afterwards. I don't know if she still has clairvoyance or not, but it seems like she chilled out for the most part. To be fair, the people she murdered were her rapists and abusers to begin with, even Mikiya seems a bit lacking in empathy after meeting one of them. If someone like Shiki can learn to live like a normal person, so can she. Shiki may have taken offense to trying to kill her after she returned to "normal" as well.

KnK is fucking shit except for movie 5

I think as long as mystery isn't at risk, they don't really care too much.

Elaborate.

Yes, Fate/Stay Night.

>Soo lets say that someone drains all life from entire country/city. Perpetrator is not a magus.
>I will pretend i didn't see that.
More like the news would never get to them since they are all Hikkis holed up in their clocktower doing research and experiments. Unless it's by magical means, resulted from magical origins, there is no exposure of magic/sorcery to normies, or there is something to gain from it. Otherwise why would they give a fuck?

Don't think of the Mage's association as some governmental organization who's written goal is civil service. They are more like a private cartel for sorcery. How would OPEC kings/dictators/CEOs react to random shits wiping out a town of Japs in Jap land? They wouldn't hear about it and if it did they'd kill/fire/jail the dumb cunt that wasted their time.

Church is more likely the ones to handle that. They are the annoying police cunts who try to protect, regulate, and police everything. They might request assistance from the association, but the two fundamentally don't get along because the Church feels they have regulatory authority over all miracles which includes sorcery/magic.

By saying 'not a magus' i meant someone with lets say mistic eyes. Also i would like to think that they are well informed on most of things. They have various branches right?
So i'm here thinking that if something like bridge twisting for no apparent reason would alert some people. And if i understand correctly church and clock tower hove to work with usual civil services to i don't know fix sticky situations?
So person that can do such things without any woring would be a thorn in a side for everyone. And her intent doesn't really matter here. The issue is even easier than fixing mental problems of schizos or what not.

Damn i'm thinking to much about it...

brainlet here
how do I get into KnK? do i watch in release order or in the actual order

OPEC doesn't regulate if 1 tard in Japan is digging oil out of his backyard in Japan.
Size too small.

Even bigger names like Touko/Aoko. They won't send their own. Easier to just put out a hit/bounty on them and see what happens.

Always watch in __________ _____. Idiot.

Why would you not watch it in release order?

>Easier to just put out a hit/bounty on them and see what happens.
So did they? I would be perfectly satisfied if there was episode with some random dude that whats to reveal her location to clock tower.
And well i don't really think that comparing them to OPEC ect. will solve anything here.
I don't know what church or association are capable of but i think they have to take into the account many possibilities. And by that i mean if they can eliminate potential threats that could intervene with their usual business(mainly clock tower) they would. Of course they are not omnipotent or all knowing so events from knk are perfect opportunity to potentially make life easier for themselves.
One(or more) less potential lunatic that can just travel to London or Vatican and go ape shit on everyone.

You forget. They don't pay for information. They pay for results. If a freelance wants to go at her for the bounty then they can, but MA wants her alive to seal and dissect her for research/circuits/goodies. Even a pro like Kiritsugu wouldn't touch with a bounty like that.

I don't know why you are so obsessed with Touko. She violated some rules, but she's not actively hurting anyone. Touko doesn't kill the women who's bodies she ends up using as dolls. Her sealing designation was in part due to her breaking rules on cloning/life/death, leaving the MA, and them kind of wanting Touko's magic for their own study/use.

>You forget. They don't pay for information. They pay for results. If a freelance wants to go at her for the bounty then they can, but MA wants her alive to seal and dissect her for research/circuits/goodies. Even a pro like Kiritsugu wouldn't touch with a bounty like that.
makes sense

I don't really care about her. More so about the fujino. I just that it wasn't explained why she was left to her own devices. I have no problem with the rest since it was mostly explained.

fuck again

By the time shiki defeated her, she had lost her power thanks to her appendicitis being cured by Shiki. Also, she was left blind as a result.

But as the story made clear, it isn't about taking her powers away. Fujino was left broken as a person and learned her lesson. She doesn't need revenge anymore because the people that tormented her are dead. She just goes around spreading whatever she learned about the experience, and using her powers to do so.

Also, she is already carrying the guilt of having almost become a bloodthirsty mass murderer if it wasn't because Shiki stopped her, and again, she was left broken as a result. According to Mikiya, that is her punishment.