It's just over a week before the first volumes for many of this season's shows come out. Let's see how shows are projected to sell on disc before then.
Why do Western pandering shows like Vinland Saga keep flopping
Liam Martin
They never said that, retard.
Blake Bailey
Lurk moar
Justin Cook
>3,862 pt El-Melloi Kek.
Matthew Martin
>1,367 pt Re:Stage Not bad for a dying mobage, too bad it won't work any miracles to revive it, mii. >649 pt Dr. Stone How did a shounen jump show flop so hard?
Adrian Lewis
Japan doesnt like Dr. Bazinga
Nathaniel Hughes
Already shows how inaccurate the rankings are since symphogear is obviously breaking 10K and maybe 15K >3,584 pt Machikado Mazoku Nice Shamiko
>shounenshit like Dr. Caveman in the bottom of the barrel. >cutesy lesbian singing and dancing meggukas battling eldritch abominations on top. GOD IS IN HEAVEN. ALL IS RIGHT WITH THE WORLD.
Jordan Russell
kys s/u/bhuman faggot
Cameron Brooks
Keep seething, dilate and have sex, faggot.
Jeremiah Brown
Intellectual men with cultured taste.
Adam Flores
Why is Granbelm flopping so hard? Is it unappealing? Did it lack promotions? Is there something wrong with its story? Considering Aniplex shilling it's strange to see it bombing so hard.
Jace Gutierrez
Mecha is a dead genre.
Adrian Miller
Aniplex shilling where? All I see them shitting out promos for is KnY.
Jason Butler
Go to their website
Gavin Sullivan
Everything about kimetsu is selling extremely well, so no wonder.
Jason Sanchez
Anime originals tend to flop in general unless they come with Granblue codes or concert tickets.
Ryan Turner
The producer mentioned that they didn't spend that much on promotion and used the money on animating the show instead.
David Martin
It also somehow overlaps with Symphogear in terms of genre. So the part of potential fanbase could go to more well known franchise instead. I think it could do better in previous season.
this, there's also reruns of madoka currently airing, Granbelm never stood a chance against those shows that pretty much cover nearly everything of the mahou shoujo genre and the threads got slower after anna dead
Jackson Reed
I don't watch it so I don't even know what it's about but from random bits I saw on 2ch, they mostly complain about mecha stuff and say it really wasn't need needed here.
Carson Morales
I mean I kind of see the point, but they also don't really take anything away.
Grayson King
It's a passion project with barely any advertising or merch. I remember some interviews saying that they don't expect it to sell at all, someone probably has the link to them lying around somewhere.
David Taylor
It's just a shame to not see that kind of dedication and passion rewarded. That was a lot of the idea back in the 80s when any director could pitch an idea and get an OVA. I realize the economic situations aren't nearly as generous, and that's putting it lightly, but when the alternative is just almost all shallow LN adaptations and glorified commercials it's really disheartening.
Daniel Cruz
A bit disappointed at Machikado's placement but it's honestly overperforming as it is. At okaa-san I can be content knowing it's probably not getting a second season.
Logan Powell
Mecha design is just unappealing.
Easton Barnes
>8,887 pt Symphogear >7,035 pt Ensemble Stars Every season we see how idolshit destroys anime but we always pretend it's something else. >3,988 pt Dumbbell >3,584 pt Machikado Mazoku S2 confirmed! Something to be glad of. >1,567 pt Kanata no Astra At least they broke the 1k line, this show deserves so much more though. >1,513 pt Sounan desu ka >1,225 pt Tejina Senpai This is actually fucking amazing for a short, S2 confirmed too. >675 pt Fire Force >649 pt Dr. Stone Fucking ouch, really hurt me to see this while shit like that one Naruto clone is doing so well only because it have a meme studio behind it. >554 pt Uchinoko >548 pt Cop Craft >547 pt Granbelm Oh well, it was nice meeting these ones. >490 pt Isekai Cheat Magician >434 pt Vinland Saga HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
Liam Murphy
It is carried by a handful of its dedicated fans. Its viewerbase on streaming sites are low but it managed to maintain a considerably high rating. Some guy at twitter mentioned that the anime didn't do much to the game, but I guess we'll still have to wait to see how it worked out in the end.
Curse of being an original. Curse of being about mechas. Curse of being a Madoka clone. And on a personal opinion, this is airing during the best season we have had in a while, so it's easy to see it just getting lost in the middle of so much competition. TLDR: It was doomed to fail from the start, so it's hardly a "flop".
>the 8000 people that buy these discs didn't even watched the anime and just did for the event tickets Sure buddy.
Aaron Watson
>for the event tickets user...
Jaxson White
>Dr.Stone slowly gaining in popularity Nice, 13 more eps to go
Dominic Rivera
This, at least Dr.Stone managed to get out of that "below Isekai Cheat Magician" position.
Jeremiah Walker
I remember when it was bummed down with vinland and now moved up to be buddies with FF. It resembles the premise of the series >slowly step by step chipping away at progress
Nathan Adams
>3,332 pt Starmyu >547 pt Granbelm >255 pt Kochouki These are the originals this season with a long-running idolshit on top
Probably that plus the price. That shit is overpriced as fuck, they probably can't buy everything they want, so they go for the safe picks.
Robert Cruz
You laugh like anyone cares about the cheetos magician
Evan Roberts
*like as if
Ryan Bailey
It's gaining some momentum, so it might've been underestimated.
Dylan Nguyen
"Safe" for what? Epeen?
Jacob Fisher
>old, famous, big name IP >original I mean, if you have to pick one, not everyone would go for the original unless it's some groundbreaking shit
Aaron Campbell
Safe for "I can eat tomorrow." It's like 100 bucks for a 2 episode disc, dude. Shit's beyond ripoff.
Mason Morris
>8,887 pt Symphogear I gotta get around to watching this
Noah James
>GA got 24 episodes >Wakaba girl is a short, x3 to its value since it has lower production cost.
Matthew Hernandez
That's only for blindly perordering anime that might or might not be good before the season
What That's still true if it was fucking Meduka
Anime isn't stocks.
Joseph Mitchell
But then you have no money for next season bro
Zachary Murphy
>That's still true if it was fucking Meduka Yeah. Which is the point. Meduka was a big deal at the time so it's easier to take a bet on it than some random obscure show nobody knows. Im not saying it's automatically the mark of a better show but when you can only by so many discs a month.
Ryder Morales
You don't have to "take a bet" if you watch the anime and see if it's good or not.
Wyatt Hughes
hurry up and get on it faggot, our most recent live thread hit 2000 posts back on saturday
Owen Adams
>S2 confirmed too. Really?
Ryan Cruz
>anima yell flopped wwwwwwwww
Hunter Kelly
>1,571 pt Arifureta How? Are people so delusional they think the BDs will fix the show or are they expecting uncensored loli sex?
Wyatt Perry
>Some guy at twitter mentioned that the anime didn't do much to the game Link?
David Martinez
You can still only buy so many discs per season, and people are probably still buying v3-6 from series of past seasons.
Jayden Parker
Current trend of the series shows that it can reach 5k sales easily.
Eli Flores
No it isn't
Luis Allen
Hope that dumb /fit/ meme shit doesn't get an S2 ever
William James
Done by the anti lolicon Doga Kobo themselves, it can burn.
Kevin Young
The Japanese don't really torrent and near as I can tell they don't have a crunchy equivalent. So you either watch on TV, digitally record it or buy blind. You can't always catch live airings and digital recordings have finite space.
Dylan Watson
considering how arifureta kept getting hyped as one of the best isekai shit out there by Yea Forums, I felt like the sales were pretty mediocre.
Owen Cook
I like Danmachi but S2 has been really shitty, prostitute arc is pure shit.
Austin Nelson
They do torrent, IIRC a lot of Nyaa's views come from Japan. They just don't do it openly because they can get arrested for it.
Thomas Sanchez
Only in the sales thread you see people saying watching anime is more difficult in Japan
Carter Perry
lol kinda shame because stella no mahou actually was what made me watched animes again.
Jayden Rodriguez
Yeah so buy the one you like the best to be safe.
Ryder Phillips
That is something you need to see to believe. I'm impressed that someone looked at the source material and convinced a production committee to throw money into animating it. Arifureta is a special kind of trash even among trashy isekai.
Cooper Wright
No one in Arifureta threads says it's good, everyone knows it's retarded but it's fun in a trainwreck kind of way.
Jackson Robinson
does that mean dumbbell won't get a sequel I hope so its annoying me
William Ramirez
It's not Kirara so impossible to say.
Leo Kelly
Literally, hasn't it been the best seller of the season in every season but the first one?
Josiah Torres
Are you saying isekai are ever good for anything else, really? That's pretty much the same talk for ever other isekai out there as well.
Nathan Brooks
The market exists because it is overpriced. You could drop the price by half but the sales wouldn't duplicate.
Eli Lewis
Nana wills it so
Christopher Ross
That's a bit hard to actually prove definitively. While Japan certainly doesn't have the sales volume numbers the US has it's hard to say how many more casual fans wouldn't be inclined to splurge now and again for a show they like.
Lower price shows don't sell more than high price shows on average. BDs are for collectors, normies just watch their TVs or on stream services like NND
Thomas Hughes
/ll/ connoisseur the best
Nicholas Robinson
Hetshit BTFO !!!
Matthew Wood
Dumbbell and Takagi-san are hetshit, though.
Hudson Martinez
Nah, it's still too early to tell.
Wyatt Butler
How were the music sales for the new releases?
Kevin Rogers
Yuri is too strong for those shows.
Gavin Reyes
>Symphogear How does this cringe-worthy shit sell so much?
Wyatt Kelly
Nana wills it.
Carter Hernandez
Calm down user, nobody knows anything at this point. The numbers are still being tallied
Oliver Myers
An that's what they're doing, buying the already known, liked, and safe pick.
Ian Lewis
That same market is dying.
Jackson Anderson
Fuck nanascum
Because it's unironically 'fun' - a real hype builder. The original season upto G and GX was good. The interim seasons sucked (because fuck Maria) but this season has been tolerable.
Aiden Bell
I don't know, I've always read here on Yea Forums that arifureta was the bottom of the barrel, worst of the worst isekai. But it's actually more fun than they made it sound, and isekai cheat magician is way worse So who knows really
Lincoln Morales
What are unpopular shows unsafe for?
Jayden Richardson
Not having dinner If you also like the popular ones,
Zachary White
What's the safe factor in the popular series that makes you pick it over the unpopular one if both cost 10k yen and you like them equally? I'm genuinely curious about the bottom of this argument.
>arifureta kept getting hyped as one of the best isekai shit out there by Yea Forums By fucking who? Most anons in the threads consider it entertaining trash at most
Ian Anderson
Unless it manages to pick up those are some abysmal numbers for a 2 cour series
Isaac Long
>3,584 pt Machikado Mazoku Ganbare, Shamiko! Do well and hopefully you will get the S2!
You can pre-order those so you can start saving for next seasons. Vol1 always sell a lot more than the rest in the end.
Jacob Howard
>3,584 pt Machikado Mazoku Gambare Shamiko! Do a lot of better in sale and get another Season! >547 pt Granbelm An actual good anime is failing... >675 pt Fire Force I only watch first 3 episode but I thought it was popular? >1,367 pt Re:Stage Doing better than I actually expected.
Jeremiah Wright
Symphogear is pure cringe. Aoi should don her military uniform and embrace the duck. It's her true calling.
Trips of truth. Shamiko has a chance to get a budget second season. Budget animation going all the way beating out fucking Accelerator and Danmachi. Competing with El-melloi and forehead-chan for the seasonal runner up.
Jaxson Cook
>Trips of truth. Shamiko has a chance to get a budget second season. Budget animation going all the way beating out fucking Accelerator and Danmachi. Competing with El-melloi and forehead-chan for the seasonal runner up. Shamiko and her loyal subordinates Momo and Mikan need to get 4,000 pt to make sure S2 is happening 100%.
Jason Ross
our faithful demon snek got a 2nd season so i hope our faithful hardworking demon girl gets a 2nd season
Machikado is now ranked above Symphogear in sales, making it the top ranked anime on PriPri. Machikado might break the 10k barrier if it keeps up these sales. It's having a similar rise to Zombieland Saga and Kemurikusa.
Joshua Taylor
ganbarre Shamiko! Become a demon who gets a second season!
Ayden King
Sorry I mean to say her wife Momo and loyal subordinate Mikan...
Aiden Phillips
>675 pt Fire Force >I only watch first 3 episode but I thought it was popular? Yeah with streaming and source material boost which matters more than disk sales.
Cameron Taylor
ITT: the Japanese still have no taste.
Aiden Cooper
(dubs!!) Oh mah lord fellas. It's happening. Gazing at the pixiv numbers. (Japanese artists) Machikado has almost third of shield heros results. 1096 to 3330 with only 10 budget anime episodes. Pixiv is pretty good indicator for Japs taste and what's getting attention in Nipon. For example Dumbbell has 1381 results with exceptional spending in the animation department. I'd like to point that one scene in first episode where they visit the gym and the bodybuilders muscles are rippling are matched by this.
So when does Momo finally pin down Shamiko and put a baby magical girl in her womb
Jonathan Carter
>everything needs to be a mega boost like kimetsu Nah.
Luke Lee
Never, because Shamiko tops
Chase Turner
Symphoshit is trash and always will be trash.
Jaxson Ramirez
Thicc, poor, and out of shape goat demon girl competing with thicc, well-off, and fit gyaru. This is the season of the year anons!
Camden Price
>Takagi-san that high great guess that means next week's season finale is gonna be trash god dammit yamamoto better wrap up the series by volume 12 already so season 3 will be the finale and he can continue working on his other forehead girl projects
Carter Ward
>Stealth Symphocancer thread Fuck off and kill yourself.
Robert Murphy
Trash opinion.
Jose Brown
Isn't that a big drop for Symphogear? It used to sell 15k.
Adam Peterson
Yuri shall inherit the Earth.
Henry Long
These are stalker numbers, the ones at the top are almost always underestimated.
Nolan Campbell
Oh. So when does Shamiko finally pin down Momo and put a baby demon girl in her womb?
Grayson Stewart
Never because Lilith will do it
David Ward
the top ones are underestimated like this user pointed
Jack Hill
>accelerator doing so shit it killed the english fandom
Chase Long
...
Easton Walker
guess I'll pick this up
Aiden Smith
For shorts you always multiply by 3, meaning that you can count Sounan desu ka as 4500 and Tejina as 3500.
Joseph Howard
Not sure why that user said Yea Forums, but the LN it is regarded as fucking good and have a HUGE following in Japan, those 1500 sales are probably from hardcore fans that won't even watch the anime anyways. In my personal opinion the only big flaw about the show is that it looks like fucking crap, if the BDs actually fix that then buying them makes sense.
Jonathan King
>chuuni edgelord revenge fantasy >fucking good isekaifags, everyone
Daniel Ortiz
T I C K E T I C K E T
Landon Hall
Yeah the animation for the War Game arc should have been MUCH better while the story telling for the Haruhime arc could have been TOLD better.
Sebastian Ross
There isn't even a concert announced for this season yet, these are pre-ticket numbers. The show is selling on its own merits currently
>There isn't even a concert announced for this season yet, these are pre-ticket numbers. The show is selling on its own merits currently
And once they do announce them, disc sales may quadruple
Michael Myers
>Takagi Yes >Dumbbell No, machio is a nothing but a gag character
Aiden Jones
Explain why you haven't watched the franchise of the decade yet Yea Forums >B-b-but Idolshit! Only 3 out of the 40ish characters in the show are Idols, and any actual Idol-related shit (Concerts) only makes up like 1/50th of the shows content >B-b-but there's music! So that makes K-on!, Your Lie In April, and Carole & Tuesday Idolshit then? >B-b-but Yurifags! The /u/fags are the worst part of the fan base and try to make it appear that it's one of the main selling points of the show when in reality it's just the average blueballing stuff you've seen before. It's nowhere near as cancerous as shit like Sakura Trick in that department. >B-b-but there's five seasons! How many shows are you watching this season alone? 65 episodes and some OVAs isn't that much to plow through
You have literally no excuse to deny yourself from watching an actually good show for once instead of the same old seasonal garbage you'll forget after a few months.
>Explain why you haven't watched the franchise of the decade yet Yea Forums Your premise is flawed because I am watching it and I love it
Nolan Cruz
>not embracing the show's idol roots Its not even the idols anymore the show is pure hearted fun.
Josiah Smith
I can't, as I'm watching it right now. The show is thoroughly entertaining and always delivers no matter (Or because of) how ridiculous it gets.
Luke Moore
>How many shows are you watching this season alone? Nu-Yea Forums watches 4 anime a year, might as well make a new website.
Anthony Lee
I'd just like to point out how much I LOVE SHAMIKO, thank you. Pray for +2000 sales.
Jace Mitchell
I typically watch between one and zero anime per season
Jason Lopez
Someone post toasted Abe
Chase Ortiz
The constant singing and the big idol concerts in every season but AXZ are part of that big, loud spectacle. I'm convinced that Tsubasa's entire character is Nana Mizuki's biography as she sees it
Mason Barnes
>I'm convinced that Tsubasa's entire character is Nana Mizuki's biography as she sees it So she wants to be hit on by a sexy Ukrainian supermodel/singer?
Caleb Rogers
>The /u/fags are the worst part of the fan base and try to make it appear that it's one of the main selling points of the show when in reality it's just the average blueballing stuff you've seen before. It's nowhere near as cancerous as shit like Sakura Trick in that department.
Stage 5 and still going
Ryan Stewart
Kill yourself then.
Carter Evans
She's waiting for Yukari Tamura to come out of her depression and marry her Also according to Nana Tsubasa still wants to bang Kanade
Hudson Reed
From the last two season it just been pure fun not idol wankery as always.
Wait for Japan to legalize gay marriage soon. Other cities in Japan have legalize same-sex certificate even rural areas there are doing the same as well.
Aaron Davis
>Wait for Japan to legalize gay marriage soon. This.
David Miller
How do we save Vinland?
Austin Diaz
Jesus you're all like tumblr girls who ship Sherlock actors
Cooper Williams
By focusing on Christianity and not changing the damn characters religion. Vinland was historical about thorkell and his family being vikings then coming to god and opening a church and spreading Christianity into the area for good.
He's right every season. Maybe the '20s will be better.
Charles Scott
So why is that Okada show doing so poorly despite the fact that it's based on an Okada manga? And why is it doing badly even though Western viewers seem to like it?
Ethan Sullivan
>And why is it doing badly even though Western viewers seem to like it? >he thinks the west matters
Shield Hero got S2 and S3 due to CR money and Chink streaming. The West matters to some extent at least.
Luis Lopez
>china >west
Michael Price
1. Westerns opinions never matter 2. The show is pretty boring and not sure why people like it. 3. People only watch Mari Okada shows for the memes, this time there are no memes.
William Price
>this time there are no memes What about people calling them "sluts"?
Eli Price
Poor Lay-duce, they can never seem to catch a break. First Classroom Crisis, then Spyce, and now Araburu (since all bombed horrifically).
I'm sure the text mentioned it, but I don't think there were any pics of it.
Angel Murphy
Why do people like gaybait so much?
Aaron Bailey
Only idolfags like yuri
Connor Hall
It aired the same season as Kemono Friends, LWA, Konosuba 2, GabDrop, Maid Dragon, etc...
Jonathan Cruz
>Dumbbell is a het show It is but wait till S2.
Asher Ramirez
>All the yuri anime on the top Fixed.
Isaiah Jackson
>Only girls like yuri Fixed.
Lucas Lopez
HSL didn't have a target audience.
Ryan Flores
For when it's even more het?
Leo Barnes
Yes.
Wyatt James
Assuming it does get a second season, I wonder how Dogakobo will handle Hibiki's growing crush on Machio, considering they already cut out the first two moments of it.
Cameron Harris
>Only girls like yuri
citation needed
Oliver Anderson
I doubt it, the vast majority of yurifags I've seen on Yea Forums and elsewhere are males
Brayden Hughes
Dogakobo is good with yuri stuff. I'm sure they will develop something involved Hibiki relationship with Machio or with other girls.
Tyler Cox
The grand majority of authors of yuri are female for one. >Dogakobo >yuri Almost all their stuff has been straight or yuribait.
Josiah Rodriguez
Dogakobo goes yuribait to full yuri. Same they are doing with vanilla too.
Ryder Powell
Referring to fans, not necessarily the authors
Nathaniel Stewart
Okay, then the majority readerbase for Comic Yurihime is female. I don't really get what you're saying, but Dumbbell hasn't had any actual yuri or yuri-undertones in it at all, and never will.
Logan Richardson
>8,887 pt Symphogear >3,988 pt Dumbbell >3,584 pt Machikado Mazoku Nice. >1,567 pt Kanata no Astra >1,210 pt Joshimuda >675 pt Fire Force Damn this hurts.
>Have Nana Midzuki actively promote it >Doesn't even have over 9000 points
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Nolan Hughes
Million Arthur had Nana and that didn't even sell 1,000 discs
Josiah Moore
>344 pt Sacred Beasts Kind of a shame, its not really good but entertaining enough to deserve a little better
Ayden Hall
The only people who would be ever offended by that are retarded newfags who think think watching any idolshit makes them "not cool". Even /m/ general doesn't find it offensive. People called Symphogear that way since fucking s1 when Satelight released like 3 idol/action shows in a year.
Jaxon Rogers
>Dumbbell hasn't had any actual yuri or yuri-undertones in it at all, and never will.
You sure about that user.
Jordan Ross
Kill me Baby and Stella no Mahou are still ongoing so they are fine.
Jackson Turner
It's dog-eat-dog, user
Kayden Watson
Punks like you are a diamond dozen.
Ayden Butler
Dumbbell will actually head to the yuri route
Matthew White
Yes, because I've read the manga.
Julian Lewis
>tejina senpai 1225 pt Nice, let's celebrate it by kicking senpai in her private parts
Am I the only one who thought Uchinoko was going to be a hit
Connor Hall
>Symphogear at the top >Dr. Reddit and a bunch of isekai shit flopping Holy based
Nathan Richardson
This thread is retarded and only salefags care about v/ flamewars stupid nigger competition about shonenshit,idolshit,moeshit and isekaishit for retards and niggers or dilating kikes cuck loving niggers like pol/ tards.
Nathaniel Green
Most shows that sell poorly don't get another season though. The only way streaming can save them is if they managed to get Crunchyroll or China money.
Owen Bailey
>Epic upvote in Reddit 4channel and cripplechan new host to leech.
How do I get China to fund another season of Isekai Smartphone
Brandon Long
buy one million copies of the LN
Brandon Green
I'd rather look at a Nep, but Shamiko will do.
Luke Taylor
I haven't because of the amount of seasons. Same reason I haven't watched JoJos or SnK. I'd rather not watch something that requires too much time investment
Austin Perry
>I'd rather not watch something that requires too much time investment How is watching a show with five 13-episode seasons any different from watching five separate shows that are 13 episodes long? At the end of the day you're still spending your time watching anime
I don't know why newfag pretends gear is not an idol show, it has always lowkey been a CD and concert advertisement. The fact that it's good and enjoyable is a byproduct. Also it's collosal stupidity to watch gears for the yuri, but if you hate yuri I don't think you can enjoy it either. Other than GX and AXZ all the other seasons have been very in your face about it and without liking yuri HibiMiku and DmJii drama is a chore to sit through. A good portion of the fanbase also discuss /u/ stuff like basically all mahou shoujo threads. Anons likely won't have a good time unless he doesn't visit the thread at all.
Brandon Allen
>giving that many (you)s to such an obvious lazy shitpost
Benjamin Clark
what went wrong with uchinoko
Mason Bell
Astra isn't popular?
Bentley Ramirez
>649 pt Dr. Stone oof no S2, good thing is its two cour so the numbers can hopefully get better
Might've been more popular in a season without other memeshows like Dumbbells or Okaa-san Online (even though that didn't do amazing either).
Also outside of the loli Uchinoko is just pretty bland overall and I think some people got spoiled on the source material ending going the Usagi Drop route which will always turn some people off
Kayden Anderson
That's not how it works, at all. First volume is due this month and it won't magically sell better afetrwards.