Why does mecha get little to no respect among western anime communities?

This. If you wanted to watch/read the UC timeline of Gundam from start to finish it would take years. Probably the easiest to enjoy and most popular Gundam series were of other timelines and had no context other than the story you were watching unfold.

>the UC timeline
>years
huh?
It's only 3 "series" and a movie, retard. It's not even that long.
Also if you're really ADHD you can just watch 0079, because Tomino never wanted to franchise it in the first place & that's a perfectly valid stopping point. (Although I doubt anyone would want to stop there because it's GOOD).

What's wrong with your household? Does your mum only let you watch a quarter of an episode a day?

I don't understand.

I wanna say because of this
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Honestly, I think mecha anime is the same boat JoJo was in the western community before it got big. Think about it...

> Both have been around for ages, and have a relatively large amount of history and influence
> Both are super popular in Japan, get memed, homaged, and referenced in media yet almost completely ignored by western audience.
> Suddenly, JoJo gets super popular, and westerns catch up to the Japanese almost over night. People love and respect it, understand its history and influence, and make god tier memes.

Honestly, I suspect it's only a matter of time before we catch on. It was a little surprising Pacific Rim didn't get us there the way JoJo 2012 did, but I suspect we'll understand eventually.

Super robot is insanely high energy, which is seen as speedy by anime fans in spite of their love of JoJo
Real Robot writing is often pretty subtle and stuff like Zeta will often fly over the average watcher’s head (why they made ZZ)

Both are incredibly sentimental and often made by passionate teams which are things anime fans truly hate

Just in the last 5 years there have been like 3 new OVA for the UC timeline you fucking retards. Not to mention all the old shit.

America was raised on the idea that giant robots were for kiddies because of
>Voltron
>Power Rangers
And America didn't get significant exposure to anime until the 2000s, which is when mecha was no longer the major genre of anime. It also even stretches back, culturally, to the early 1900s, because America has mostly vilified robots as something sinister in fiction.

>Super robot is insanely high energy, which is seen as speedy by anime fans in spite of their love of JoJo
>Real Robot writing is often pretty subtle and stuff like Zeta will often fly over the average watcher’s head
Can you guess as to how I know that you're new?

But most mecha anime are just toy commercials for children. At least the ones everybody jerks off.

Jerk off into your own mouth, dumbass.

In America, robots are usually universally considered evil.

With a more plentiful supply of all anime available, the time cost of watching an anime that's the equivalent of 3+ modern seasons long for a single installment in the franchise seems a lot higher. Meanwhile, most well-known 2000's+ anime that aren't long-running shounen are 2 cours tops, maybe getting a second season after a few years, making them a much quicker watch. Plus, even mid-tier niche stuff that will probably be forgotten in the long run, like Kouya no Kotobuki (sorry Yea Forumserobros), are tons of fun to watch as they air due to shitposting. Call it shorter attention span, FOMO, or whatever you want, the bottom line is that with more content becoming available by the year, it's hard to justify getting into 30+ year old franchises that even their fans do not think are likely to release more content of the quality they used to.

My experience with mecha is that they're either franchises that have been going on for decades and incredibly hard to get into if you didn't do it as a teen, or weird shit like Gridman. Honestly I don't even know too much about new mecha stuff. It's like super sentai, it has its own following and they make new material for them, it makes sense, it's hard to make them appeal to wider audiences and their fanbases are pretty dedicated. Almost no one in the West knows about Kamen Rider but it's still very popular in Japan.

How long do you have to watch anime a year? Real talk. Give us an estimate.

>it's hard to justify getting into 30+ year old franchises that even their fans do not think are likely to release more content of the quality they used to.
I fucking love Peter Hammill and Van Der Graaf Generator and I love his guest apperances on other artists work but you know at no point during any of me listening to him over the years did I think about how much it'd suck to have no new content at the quality level they used to release.

And I still got a pretty decent live album and a good reformed VDGG album out of it.
Sometimes it can be worth sticking with old stuff. Especially if nothing else really fills the niche.

Friendly sage because non-Yea Forums example

big robots look impractical

Does suspension of disbelief not exist on this board?

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western anime "fans" will only watch whatever is popular and it can't be any longer than 24 episodes unless it's JoJo. god forbid you watch OLD anime. the days where everyone was a shonenshitter that watched terribly paced +300 episodes of anime is dead. whether this is a good thing, i have no clue.

Because mecha deserves little to no respect.

Every genre of that style has something unrealistic or impractical that you have to ignore. Superhero comics have adults wearing ridiculous customes to fight or commit crime instead of doing anything more logical. For soap operas you have to deal with people going retardedly or insanely evil just for a break up. Anime has lots of different ways to be impractical. If you don't buy that break, you can't get into the genre. Giant robots look very impractical for people that like science fiction or military stories, two things that almost always overlap with mechas. Fantasy, which can have giants with no problem, has a beef with advanced machines. Big ass humanoid robots are a really hard thing to buy. The concept still exists because, admittedly, very few things look as cool as a giant robot. So, either you love them with q crazy passion and buy all the contrived explanations of why people build giant robots instead of something more practical, just like superhero fans buy any explanation for a mutant woman going out the streets to fight evil with a thong, or just can't buy it and find the entire genre ridiculous. But liking or disliking mechas is something personal and impossible to explain.

People who dislike mecha have never seen a mecha anime in their lives. Fact.

Then they watch a mecha anime, fall in love with it, but become pretentious.
>x isn't really mecha because the focus is on the characters durr
Fact.

Then they (hopefully) stop being newfags and realize the mecha genre is amazing.

>Super robot is insanely high energy, which is seen as speedy by anime fans
the fuck does that mean

If "mecha" just means "Gundam" to you, personally, I've always found it kinda dry in both characters and conflict. The idea that the west doesn't like mecha is bullshit, though.

>Robotech
>Eva
>Code Geass
>Battletech
>Transformers

because they're literally all the same shit

>My experience with mecha is that they're either franchises that have been going on for decades and incredibly hard to get into if you didn't do it as a teen, or weird shit like Gridman.
This. As someone who got into anime in the late 2000s, I wouldn't know where to begin with mecha. I think the only semi-mecha shows I've watched were Full Metal Panic and Knights of Sedonia. Everything else is either completely out there, or Gundam, which has series and lore stretching dozens of series over like 40 years.

>semi-mecha
What the fuck is wrong with you

Because mecha is shit. They look stupid, you have to constantly come up with a bunch of excuses for why people are using them instead of anything else, and it's largely just an excuse to have humanoids fighting while cheaping out on the animation because it's okay if a machine looks uncanny valley or uses lazy CGI or all the other tricks mechs end up using.
literally every mecha show people like is liked largely for things that have absolutely nothing to do with mechs themselves but have to do with the characters, the writing, or the general setting.

Just going with gundam, what exactly changes if you replace the gundam with a really good tank or jetplane? Less fight scenes in space where they can save animation by not drawing the background, but that's about all.

The question you shold be asking is why does japan love mechs so much, which can be boiled down to "gundam and macross happened to use them and those two shows largely shaped modern anime"

Cause its old and busted now. Great in its time though...

Its "too old school" and the general themes of mecha doesn't resonate with escapistfags.

>They look stupid

Bullshit. I watched all of UC and most AU's in only a few months.

>3 new OVA's in 5 years
Then even if it somehow took you an entire year to watch one then you'd still have two years to spare. Thunderbolt is debatably canon anyways and Narrative is a movie. But even then if you struggle to watch two cours and a single movie in 5 whole years then you have far bigger problems than watching anime.

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I don't know any good mecha animes. Mind recommending some?

Legend of the Blue Wolves

Ginguiser

Gridman isn't mecha it's kaiju. No one ever calls Ultraman mecha.

>Only 3 series
You're forgetting Turn A(CC but it's after UC) and G-Reconguista.
Also the Unicorn OVAs and Origin OVAs(though not canon here) are technically series.
Also 08th ms team and 0080 and 0083 are OVA series.
So is Thunderbolt.

Gridman is native mecha.

Because all mecha are made up of plot armors and hacks

>hmph, I watch more chinese cartoons than you do
>gotta flex these achievements

>all this talk of time investment

An average episode is less than 25 minutes with the OP and ED. 25 * 12 = 300 minutes for an entire series. Unless you're putting in 60+ hour work weeks that don't give you any time for leisure, watching the equivalent of two movies is not time-prohibitive. Watching EIGHT movies (50~ episode) is not time prohibitive. Anime is not a time-consuming hobby.

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No user you're the idiot here. You're claiming it takes years to finish 3 series. You honestly should consider watching more anime.

>In America, robots are usually universally considered evil.

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To be fair, if you are like most people and follow multiple series at a time, plus other hobbies like video games, it would probably take a hell of a long time to watch all of Gundam.

>a century of robots are evil fiction crumbles in the face of your two robots

Most mecha is unironically garbage
People who pretend UC Gundam is some golden cow are the prime example of a fanbase literally too retarded to reason with

You're a retard. Dismissed.

1) mecha are simplistic and usually poorly written stories
2) people recommend them Tominoshit, which is abysmal on every front
3) most of them are old with unlikable and autistic characters
4) they are toy commercials, something very apparent in every single Gundam show, especially Zeta
5) diplomatic subplots are overly simplistic because the show was written for children
6) shows get 50 episodes yet tend to have the substance to justify 25 of them, often even less
7) the mechanical designs tend to be terrible -- if you're a fully grown man who thinks any BRAVE mecha is well designed, you're mentally 6 yeras old (not even 12 year olds like those shoddy designs)

The West only cares about transformers. It's like Pokemon in that the west only wants one type of thing and that's it and everything else gets thrown aside, even if they aren't really that similar.

Just wait till Hollywood makes the gundam movie that they are making its going to bring more normies. Then you will get more people into mech anime. Someone used the monkey paw in /m/

Who cares? Seeing how every other dumb American kid is getting into anime and destroying any online community for it, I'm glad that casuals are NOT getting into mecha. Pleb filters are a good thing.

Because Mecha sucks. Its like being into anime about fighter jet pilots

>Why does mecha get little to no respect among western anime communities?
Simply not true. Mecha is a cornerstone of anime outside of America. Every other western country like Italy, France, Spain, Egypt, etc. all have a number of Japanese mecha anime which have garnered significant followings. America is simply the odd one out in this regard. The common thread here is that all of those countries built up a market for anime long before America. By the time America was finally getting into anime big time, it was already well into the 2000s and moe was the dominating fad.

Fighter jets are badass though, so what's your point? I'd absolutely watch an anime about badass fighter pilots.

Almost all modern anime is for creeps and preteen girls.

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>Why does mecha get little to no respect among western anime communities?
Mecha is a literal pleb filter. False assumptions, or brainlets who get triggered by the presence of mechs.
>Its like being into anime about fighter jet pilots
That sounds a whole lot more interesting than moeshit or isekai crap that gets shitted out every season.

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But what about moe isekai with fighter jet-inspired mecha?

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LotGH, though

Also, Redline, GitS, Akira, half of Ghibli's films and Jin-roh

not enough cute girls

>My Mecha Pilot Can't Be This Cute!!!
I'd give it a go.

You have no proof.

THIS

Shit was great.

>especially Zeta
No agenda whatsoever here!