Will plotfags ever recover?

Have you EVER read a film script?

All of his movies are literally the same. Where does he get off talking about easy-to-understand, and breaking conventions?
>Nature good
>Technology bad
>Strong young girl

>refuse to cater to lowest common denominator
>wow what a failure, this screenplay is so bad XDD

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Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

What the fuck are you talking about? He said "he's not interested in conventional story openings anymore" and that "easy-to-understand movies are boring". There is nothing about "plotfags btfo".

How is it shitposting? I am talking to an individual who believes for all people to be equally intelligent. A challenging script isn't bad just because the bottomfeeders are unable to connect the dots.

>"logical storylines sacrifice creativity"
This man is the biggest hack in the industry and he's defending his shit skills at making good storytelling
>"Kids get it. They don't operate on logic"
keked, of course kids get it, they get easily entertained with saturday cartoons

>Plots are easy to understand.
Just because anime plots are generally simple and retarded doesn't mean all plots are, shitposter.

His post make no sense in context in Yea Forums. If anything "plotfags" loves anime/manga/VN with complex plots. Good plot is 99% of time means something not just bad vs good. Maybe OP from Yea Forums?

I completely agree with your sentiment.

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>its a cartoon for kids man lol
Fuck off you hack.

>plot holes in bog standard supernatural romcom
Not the same thing, you hack.

What is complexity? Usually it refers to one of the following:
A) information being conveyed poorly, possibly intentionally
B) an unwieldy amount of characters
C) redundancies (B is sometimes related to this)

>implied Charlie Hebdo deserved it.

Fuck him.

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>muh breaking conventions

Anime is literally only good for looking at and enjoying the cute schoolgirls. Change my mind.

MY EYES HAVE SEEN THE GLORY OF THE TRAMPLING AT THE ZOO

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He should have done more films like Porco Rosso

He used to look dumb without the beard. Certainly couldn't pull off the wise-anime-god persona he has now.

You don't even know who Miyazaki is? He was making movies in the 80's and now everyone is trying to copy him. You can argue that NOTHING is original and everything uses conventional openings because decades later people will copy them

No he didn't. A lot of stories he had, didn't even have an ending or message

I don't know if he actually implied it, but they did. I am so tired of this bullshit idea that everything is fair if it's comedy/satire.
Make fun of people and they get mad. Some people react worse than others, especially if they are from cultures where comedy against religion is not accepted. I hoped that Hebdo taught people to respect other people's beliefs.

Nice try, Mohamed.
Fuck you and fuck Allah.

There's a difference between a story being generic or obvious and a story being logical. I can't think of a single Miyazaki work that progresses without logic. Logic is necessary to connect the events together into a story in the first place unless your goal is to make a mess that can't be viewed as a connected story which has never seemed to be Miyazaki's goal.

This, if people make fun of me they should be ready to die

A story doesn't need those to be considered a story. A story can be created that just stops and isn't trying to say something as a message from the creator. Also people can get completely unintended messages from a story that the creator wasn't going for.

He might have a point, but that also requires a far greater level of competence to do so and get something of quality. Which even Miyazaki doesn't always manage.

Retarded and incomprehensible shitposting is still shitposting, spouting Yea Forums cancer about "ironic shitposting" is still shitposting

Informational or logical dependencies can also create complexity. I do agree with you that many plots that are characterized as "complex" are only that because of your reasons.

>Which even Miyazaki doesn't always manage
And who does then?

A BOY MEETS A GIRL

eat pork

Than nothing is fair to criticize and mock, because the line of offense is ultimately subjective and can never be objective. Either everything is fair or none of it is.

>Make fun of people and they get mad. Some people react worse than others, especially if they are from cultures where comedy against religion is not accepted. I hoped that Hebdo taught people to respect other people's beliefs.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler's_veto

Also, "especially if they are from cultures where comedy against religion is not accepted." they're suppose to be integrating into FRENCH culture: not forcing their Islamic culture onto the French. In France, religion can be mocked for satire - they don't like it then they can genuinely fuck off back to whatever Islamic shithole they come from that allows them to kill those that insult their religion.

web.archive.org/web/20170316015946/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/11417395/Hayao-Miyazaki-Charlie-Hebdo-Mohammed-cartoons-were-a-mistake.html

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>A story doesn't need those to be considered a story
No, but it DOES need them to be a conventional story.

>I am so tired of this bullshit idea that everything is fair if it's comedy/satire.
lmao, fucking snowflake.

He's right though.
Don't piss off people for no reason if you're not prepared for the consequences.

thats themes, not plot. try again retard

Finally someone who understands

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Tomino is just a bad writer.