The champion

the champion

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Holy shit. Did he do it?

HE FUCKING DID IT

HE FUCKING DID IT LADS

WTF AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Only took him 22 years.

COUNTER
THE
COUNTER

he looks like a spic wtf

It was such a shitty fight though.

Sun and Moon really was a huge step down in animation and battle choreography.

BASED

XYFAG BTFO
Lmao imagine shilling CUT Greninja hahahahahah

He finally did it

Reminder that Alola League is an amateur league. Literally anyone including that homeless guy outside your house would have been able to join. Ash winning a literal who league is just the consolation prize while Alain winning the Kalos league is the real deal.

O MY COUNTER COUNTER

I wonder what they'll do now.

Reboot him (again)? Have it be the female version?

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After 22 years he finally did it

is this as worthless as orange islands?

xyz was too much over the top

Didn't he win a literally who league? It's like wining the tournament at your local card game shop when others are winning nationals

>filler character winning a filler league in a filler season is the real deal

Alain would have won this shitty league with his eyes closed. Gladion is a weak little bitch. Ash is still a cuck.

BASED CHAMPION

Even worse considering all the 1v1s

You actually have to qualify yourself for the orange league.

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Alola is going to be a global superpower by 2020.

CHAD ASH, THIS MARKS THE START OF A NEW BRIGHT DECADE

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Low effort fights is not the future our want.

ash more like ass what a fucking loser

It's been three years and that pose still looks strange

>Low effort fights
That's what happens when you stream with low quality

Streaming has nothing to do with why that fight was just terrible. There was no choreography.

>stone edge animation reused like 5 times
>a fucking attack montage slideshow

WEEEE ARE THEW CHAMPIONS MY FRIENDS
AND WEEEE'LL KEEP ON FIGHTING TIL THE END

Reply to me when Orange Islands has more than one battle

He looks so damn ugly.

Just took him 20 fucking years.

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When put like this it almost seems planned, but I doubt it.

what the fuck happened to his face

No one cares, trAshnimefag, go back to your containment thread.

Real Talk

What was his roster this time?

Took him long enough

Please understand, developing sword and shield very expensive and game freak needed some extra money to get it done. But I am sure you will be pleased with the high quality graphics it results in

How did the animation get worse?

No one in the League had a full team. Not even Ash.

Pikachu
Torracat
Rowlet
Lycanroc Dusk
Melmetal

Spotted the newfag.

No wonder he won.

A wolf that is actually a rock and a flying owl that is part plant. But wait there's more!

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While I didn't like this finale fight I will admit that it would've been shit no matter what they did. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Since he won people will think it's because they got scared by the reaction to the XY league, but if he had lost not many would even care since they'd just accept Ash as an eternal loser. Also Alola is a pretty low stakes league since it's new.

They should've just not done a league in Alola instead of this dumb shitshow.

Fuck off back to /padt/, no one likes you autists in /vp/ and certainly not in Yea Forums. Ash won an Orange league tier special needs cup, the anime is still shit and you autists are still pathetic for even watching that shitty advertisement for 5 years old children.

And change his face.

>Since he won people will think it's because they got scared by the reaction to the XY league

Because its the only reason they did it, otherwise he would have lost again. I cant think of anything that was more BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY than the end of XY.

/vp/ is all about the Pokemon meta at a competitive tournament level, not the character. It's the same thing as Guts getting off the boat.

I personally really liked it even though it was a 3 on 3 and I'm happy satoshi got his first real league win, the surprised look on his face after his lugarugan ko'd gladion's gave me mad chills. Lugarugan really surpassed its limits for satoshi there.

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/vp/ is going crazy over his win even though they never cared for the shitty show.

Not really.

If you've been watching, you would see how low effort they were in writing the League

>No entry requirements
>Battle Royal to narrow field down to top 16
>Half of the top 16 is either Joke stuff like Jessie, James, and Alola Oak or non-battlers like Lillie and Mallow over other interesting competitors like Plumeria and Kahili
>1v1 battlers until top 4
>2v2 in the Semis
>Only 3v3 in the final match

Theres so much wrong that could have been fixed in the writing stage but you can tell that the writers didn't care about the League.
And then you factor in how none of the battles were any good.

But /padt/ is where people are shitting on the league, the people that think this is worth caring about are just posting their own threads in the catalog. You're not even trying to make sense.

Its mostly shitposters who want to run it in the face of people who preferred stuff like XY.

>>Only 3v3 in the final match

>Literally wins with power of friendship.

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Is it worth it to pick up sun&moon just to see my boy ash winning a league? I fucking hate the artstyle though.

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"want" being the key word here.

They're mostly playing prison bitches themselves and fucking each other in the ass.

lolno

No

The only good thing to come out of sun&moon was the porn.

Why not just watch the finale episode? SM is a long series

Listen I don't care about internal divisions between you people I just want ashnimefags to stay in their containment.

>ugly artstyle
>mediocre animation
>prelim and tournament are fucking 1v1 fights featuring schoolchildren and hobos in some dudes backyard
>final is only 3v3 with asspulls
You decide.

Hahahahaahah are you fucking out of your mind?

>animation
>still image

This isn't /vp/ where you get people who like SM ironically to spite XY in their mind, we're gonna be honest with you.

Of fucking course not. You maybe get few decent character episodes, but thats it. The new artstyle is terrible, battles are the worst they've ever been on the rare occasion that they actually happen, barring very few exceptions.

At most, look into what the few decent episodes are and watch those.

Absolutely based.

Spotted the /padt/ tourist

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Will serenalosers ever recover

Do you hate yourself?

Wait a minute.
>lazily reused attack animations
>unevolved pokemon everywhere
>not a full 6v6 battle
Holy shit, this is just the BW Cameron battle all over again except officially under worse circumstances. Sun/Moon fags seriously expect people to be excited about this?

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Damn. SM is THAT bad?
I'd like to at have some build up or some kind of an exposure on Alola. Heard that the series went into some kind of a SOL instead of pokemon journey or something IIRC.
What's the episode? Gym battles any good?

Perfectly sums up how I feel about this trainwreck.

Go away thanks

>What's the episode? Gym battles any good?
>SM
>Gym battles
user, I...

>That trash animation

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wtf happened to the animation?

>Gym battles
He doesn't know...

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Just wanna see my boy ash win. And the rumour that the dude is being retired in favor of a new MC just makes me wanna watch S&M even more. One last journey with the character from my childhood.

So that's why it's top trending in japan.

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never watched pokemon, are the anime related from the original with this one?
i assume they're not connected since ash is still a kid until now.

Wait. Then how's the format for the alola region? How did the dude qualified for the pokemon league?

Yes but mostly no. It's really only connected when they feel like shilling every now and again with old characters.

They supposedly are and Ash is still 10 years old after having visited 7 regions, abandoned his friends and Pokemon every time while everyone else grows.

>caring about the absolute shit sun & moon anything
How the fuck anyone could watch this shit is beyond me and I followed the pokemon anime since it aired in my country in 1999. Gen 7 has killed any interest I had in the series

It's a free for all in the first round Battle Royal.

There's no gym battles, the Alola League was just some random ass tournament anyone could enter. Fucking James made it to the top 8 because he ended up facing Jessie in the top 16 and she's kinda shit. And there was a guy with a Magikarp in the prelims.

Don't do it. He's not event the same character anymore and it would leave a sour taste in your mouth that you can never get rid of.

He didn't. It being the first one in Alola, entrance was for whoever wanted to sign up.

>finally wins in the least hype finale for the worst season that no one with brains cared about
Lol, dumb Game Freak.

>How did the dude qualified for the pokemon league?
The qualification process was literally "say you want to enter and you're in". it was pathetic.

so it's like conan where most of the chapters/episodes are not canon?

lmao just sign up

PS, Guzma did nothing wrong

It's more akin to winning States, but in Alaska or Montana.

No, it's like any super long runner where characters don't age and you just live with it because it's a cartoon.

people still care about this?

people still care about this shit? alola is the special olympics of the pokemon world.

>do people care about pokemon
Dude, it's trending in japan.

Damn it. Is the rumour of him being replaced, true? Damn man. Fuck.
Who the fuck writes and directed S&M? Fuck. Now I'm mad.

Why do they call Ash as Satoshi

Yeah, but what are they saying?
Pokemon trended last League too, but it was pretty negative.

Plus, for whatever its worth, SM had some of the worst ratings for the franchise.

Aya Matsui, the director of Dragonball GT

He finally did it? Fuck this takes me back

>Is the rumour of him being replaced, true?
No, that's a shitty meme. All they've announced is that "the next series won't just be set in galar, but also in all other regions." Chances are it means we'll get the occasional episode featuring older characters. They're not dropping Ash.

oh i understand, but he visited 7 regions right? can it just be said that he visited that regions for few months?
like one piece for example, the time span from when luffy begins his journey until the separation is roughly less than 3 months despite more than 10 years of serialization.

What shitshow of a season. Fuck man. Is B&W any good? I sorta watched a few episodes of the first season, dropped it after Ash met with Iris. Not because it's boring or whatever, I thought I wanted to keep up with the series. Just got overwhelmed and forgot about it. The last season I watched (before picking up B&W) was the Orange league. But I still watch the movies up to the latest one. The power of one.

"Satsohi won" and the general anipoke are trending. It's all people congratulating him.

>Yeah, but what are they saying?
Mostly "I'm shocked he won, but this was very underwhelming"

>Who the fuck writes and directed S&M? Fuck. Now I'm mad.
As someone who still actively follows Pokemon, I've been saying for months now you could tell that the writers just didn't care about doing the League and likely only did it because they probably got mandated from above that they had to do it.

SM overall was far more interested in doing SoL an comedy stuff.

If you really want to, you can say the Pokemon world has 500-moth long years or some shit. You're just not meant to think about it. Conan has celebrated multiple canon Christmases too without growing older.

It's pretty telling that they're designated best writer didn't do a single episode of the league.

>Is B&W any good?
No. But it's better than SM and at least resembles a normal Pokemon series, it's just not a very good one.
The league is turbo ass there too, though.

Best Wishes is fun if you don't take it too seriously and enjoy the filler. If you want shonen anime, try XY.

>How did the dude qualified for the pokemon league?
Anybody could show up. Literally anybody. Pic related, this screenshot is from the preliminaries.

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What is that black thing?

Ah, the hated series that only has 2 redeeming quality. SSJ4 and Omega Shenron.
>hints at visiting other regions
That's fucking interesting.
Is it fatigue? Kinda understandable. It's tiring writing the same character, dealing with the same drama for 20 years. If it is, then there's not much hope for next season as well.

oh no no no no smbros...

Best wishes probably did the best in having a recurring cast by introducing characters like Stephen, Georgia and Burgundy.
But conversely, you can tell at some point they just lost interest in Trip and it shows most on the League. And of course, nobody likes Cameron.

I still wonder though how BW would have gone if the initial Plasma arc never got canned. You can trace so many of BWs problems back to that. But actually using Giovanni for and arc was pretty cool.

Is this a troll?

>the preliminaries was literally just "put all 151 entrants in one field and the last 16 standing qualify
>several turbo shitters like Mao and Lillie and Team Rocket got qualified by just kinda dicking around and lucking into not getting their mon hit
>both Mallow and Lillie got so assraped in the top 16 it was just embarrassing

sea cucumber that uses it's poop to attack.

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>Ash won a championship
>Liverpool still can't win the Premier League

Nope. legit shot from the league.

>Is it fatigue? Kinda understandable. It's tiring writing the same character, dealing with the same drama for 20 years. If it is, then there's not much hope for next season as well.
Don't quote me on this because I don't pay attention to staff stuff, but I would be surprised if the staff changed for SM so they might not even have been a fatigued staff

Liverpool can probably win the national league in Malta or some other literally-where place

Theres hardly any buildup or payoff desu. Just watch it for SoL aspect

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

They did, pretty much all the writing staff quit after XY. The guy that wrote the finals has only written 3 other battles total, and they were all kinda shit.

>lying to cope
General viewing audience don't have your baggage bro.

DIVIDE WITH ZER....

Don't forget it included characters like Plumeria and Kahili in that Battle Royal but they didn't make it in so that Mallow, Lillie, Alolan Oak and TR could.

Complete list of the entire Pokemon anime writing staff of 22 years:
>Shudo: Joined the staff in Kanto, left after Johto. Dead.
>Tomioka: Joined the staff in Kanto, still around
>Sonoda: Joined the staff in Kanto, quit after XY
>Takegami: Joined the staff in Kanto, quit after XY
>Ohashi: Joined the staff in Kanto, quit after XY
>Fujita: Joined the staff in Kanto, quit after XY
>Yonemura: Joined the staff in Kanto, still around
>Matsui: Joined the staff in AG, left after DP, returned in late XY and is still around
>Sogo: Joined the staff in AG, left after DP
>Omode: Joined the staff in late BW, still around

And then:
>Fujisaku: Joined in SM
>Sekine: Joined in SM
>Miyata: Joined in SM
>Okubo: Joined in SM
>Hiraide: Joined in SM

It's just sad.

And SM doesn't have a general viewing audience. Its gotten markedly worse rating than past seasons.

>B-but ratings don't matter
Cope harder.

BASED

>>Sonoda: Joined the staff in Kanto, quit after XY
>>Takegami: Joined the staff in Kanto, quit after XY
>>Ohashi: Joined the staff in Kanto, quit after XY
>>Fujita: Joined the staff in Kanto, quit after XY
Why does reading this give me a "XY broke them" vibe
Like, I've heard the stories that the staff wanted Ash to win in XY but got told from above "No"
They put a lot of effort into XY and couldn't get that last thing they wanted and got all that backlash for something they didn't even want to do.

>Ash finally won a proper regional league that wasn't anime original
>people are STILL pissed

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>a proper regional league
kek

>a proper regional league

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You've eaten too much shit that it has gotten into your brain.

>calling the Alola conference a proper regional league
Leave it to a tripfag to act like a faggot.

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>Sun and Moon really was a huge step down in animation

If your gauge for animation is based on action scenes alone, then you have failed

>scat-loving tripfag trying to defend the sm league
This is perfect.

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>a proper regional league

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>Ar thats supposed to be action a=oriented
>Action is bad

Gee, I wonder

>quit after XY
>quit after XY
>quit after XY
>quit after XY
I didn't realize things were that bad even for the staff

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They took one look at this and just said "no".

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XY had SOUL.
The staff probably broke after building up XY so much as their last hurrah and was being told not to let Ash win.

Too little, too late. This shit win will be forgotten in a month or so.

>two people quite when they see the next series is BW
>FOUR people quit when they see the next series is SM
This is not a coincidence.

>two people quite when they see the next series is BW
In BW's defense, it didn't look bad early on. They even tried to get experimental and tried to do more serious stuff with Team Rocket.

A lot of BW's problems came up as the series went, some most likely stemming from them having to cancel their original plans for Plasma and the rewrites that might have happened because of it.

>A lot of BW's problems came up as the series went, some most likely stemming from them having to cancel their original plans for Plasma and the rewrites that might have happened because of it.

No, user. That excuse holds no weight when the stupid writing choices were there even before Team Plasma were fully introduced.

SOULLESS

BW was a goddamn mess in general, and its only saving grace were certain pretty good characters. But plotwise it just kept sshitting the bed over and over to the point where they ultimately just said fuck it and ended the series with 20 fillers in a row.

What does Yea Forums think of XY's anime?
I really like it the animation was top notch for the battles.

XY was top tier and a worthy successor to DP.Hopefully the next series will be a worthy successor to XY.

It was really good but Ash's lack of personality brings it down

So if Ash is the champion, then what are they going to do for the SWSH anime?

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>it didn't look bad early on
Yes it did.
>Ash losing to a newbie trainer and a fresh starter just because electric moves weren't an option
>Ash not knowing how to catch a bird
>Ash not forgetting about types and league rules

>wins orange
>wins alola
>wins Battle Frontier
>gets a mythical pokemon
>first kiss at age 10
>travelled the world

>gets a unique pokemon form and an evolution so the game has to force them in

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Pretty boring. Pikachu and Greninja do all the work, the side characters are unnaturally saccharine and inoffensive to the point of irritating, and the battles are on the same level as early-Hoenn battles.

Best series with the best girls.

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Enter another league and win it

>and the battles are on the same level as early-Hoenn battles.
They were easily better than anything from SM

XY was pretty enjoyable. Had some great battles. Ash-Greninja vs Mega Sceptile is widely regarded as one of the best battles in the entire series.

Its not without its own flaws, of course, but it was probably one of the more enjoyable seasons.

>Early hoenn?
Hoenn made me drop pokemon from how terrible it is.
The battles so much more dynamic and the animation is the best it's been

I think practically everyone except the "Pokemon ended after Kanto because muh childhood" crowd considers DP and XY the pinnacle of the Pokemon anime.

The only decent battle from SM I can think of is Ash vs Misty. Everything else, I can think of anything decent. Like for whatever reason, a lot of the Guzma fights just refused to show moves making physical contact and instead did a flash of a blavk screen which was really jarring. Probably happened in other battles too but the Guzma ones sticks out the most.

>They were easily better than anything from SM
That's not really much of an accomplishment. The animation in XY is nice most of the time but the actual battles and tactics are pretty unimaginative.

Gladio VS Kaki was pretty all right.

While true that many battles don't use a lot of more tactical stuff it does have a lot of well animated action sequences. For example, the close combat of Greninja vs Charizard was great to watch.

I wonder why /vp/ hates XY so much?

/vp/ doesn't. The people shitposting for SM are just louder.

I'm gonna say because of memes.

/vp/ loves XY. It's just full of contrarianfags that shitpost against everything that's well liked and praises everything that's not well liked.

>The people shitposting for SM are just louder.
Why doesn't XY have a shitposter squad?

it's like Spurs fans celebrating winning the Audi cup, tragic

Why would they need to? They actually like XY. I don't even think the SMfags actually like SM.

>/vp/ hates XY
I bet you also think /vp/ is looking forward to the Sword/Shield games and thinks it's pathertic to have a problem with a bunch of Pokemon being cut from it because that's what all the frog and wojak threads that make up half the catalog insist is the case.

Oh look he won. Good for him. I can't actually get hype though since the wins feels so hollow.
>Meme league with no entry requirements
>That shitfest of a fucking battle royale
>All Ash's battles had some sort of bullshit aspull to give him the victory (Meltan eating Sleeper's pendulum, the fucking cape/hood thing tanking a Z-Move and Golisopod just so happens to switch out with Scizor just as the Fire Blast hits
>Half of the finals is reused animation and a flashback in the middle to pad for time
>Not a proper 6v6 battle, the kind of battle that has always been seen as the pinnacle of battles
>We all know it won't matter anyways since the series is getting fucking rebooted
But yeah good on you SMfriends, enjoy it while it lasts

Animation was ass for the most part (Pikachu vs Zoroark ws good tho) but the final felt better than the Kalos final because Ash and Gladio actually knew each other and were more than just rivals.

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>1v1 league
>no elite 4 nor champion
>amateur galore
Runner up and Top 4 in Kalos and Sinnoh are far greater achievements.

The series isn't getting rebooted, that's just a fan theory

Ash vs Kukui is confirmed to be 6vs6

Golisopod switched out because of its ability, makes sense since fire blast scared the shit out of him

Meltan eating the pendulum made sense, since it's been shown since its debut that it loves eating metal

I wish it would just get cancelled instead. I am fucking sick of Satoshi. Let someone else be the MC for a fucking change.

>Pikachu's face
OH NONONONONO

Jesus Christ, this hurts to watch. And I've seen chink animes

It's not even that bad

I thought so too

they probably just wanted to end it already. At least the few scenes from the movie have pretty good animation

they are probably saving the best animators for the battle with Kukui

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>when Ash finally goes to a fucking school he wins the pokemon league
this is hilarious.

>Ash vs Kukui is confirmed to be 6vs6
Where? Ash does not have a sixth pokemon

No wonder the writing was so much better in SM. They should have quit earlier if it was all it took to bump the quality of writing up to a point where they aren't so poorly patronizing that they actually have a character die for once and actually have some kind of emotion in the show.

The Studio changed.

I'd say it's the best Pokemon anime by a pretty wide margin solely for the SoL elements and cute girls but I wouldn't recommend picking up any Pokemon anime. None of them have been really worth sticking around long term.

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Episode 142's title mentions a "full battle", a term that's only used for 6vs6 battles (all episodes with Full Battle in the title featured 6vs6 battles)

Ash doesn't have a sixth pokémon yet, but the title for episode 141 is being kept a secret for now, so people guess he'll get his final pokémon there. It could be Poipole/Naganadel

Title is literally called "Full Battle"

XY honestly has the strongest highlights of any Pokemon series. The use of the 3D camera in conjunction with the 3GCG background was fucking stellar.

Team Flare Arc was pure kino.

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>I'd say it's the best Pokemon anime by a pretty wide margin

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Damn this fight had really good animation

>Ash vs Kukui is confirmed to be 6vs6

They also stated it was an exhibition match so who the fuck cares?

This feels so much more emptier than it should

When did they give Ash a mustache? He looks like a beaner.

Thats not even their best fight, too

Anyone who's been watching SM and knows this battle has been hyped up since the very first episode

The time travel episode only made this whole league and exhibition match much better

The series itself is probably the best so far, but the league is been kind of a disappointment despite the final win.

I mean, what was even the point of the Island Tour and the Kahuna matches if literally anyone could enter the league?

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That guy's right. Lillie, Mao, Suiren, and Acerola were pretty great. It's like the animators knew where to focus their efforts.

What quality?? You mean the watered down Aether arc and Necrozma arc. The bad Ultra Beast episodes? The incredibly shoddy league. Team Skull being almost non existent. Hau being reduced to a COTD. Guzma appearing so late in the series.

>The series itself is probably the best so far
Lmao

SoL > shonenshit.

Is this the anime-equivalent of CalArts? I hate this art design.

>Alola
Not even a real league. Fuck off.

Isn't Alola's just starting out on the championship deal? Why consider that not a real win?

At least they actually finished

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Because they're seething outrage contrarian fags

Honestly it's a better win for him to be the founding champion of a leauge than just another winner in a long list of them like he would have been in any other region. With this, his name will actually go down in history for this win. He's literally Number 1

Problem is: Alola is the only game that DIDN'T have a league. So what the fuck did he win anyway?

Imagine Professor Oak and Ash's mom, invited to every League championship up until now, see Ash win for the first time in a third world country to "accomplish" his dream

>Oak: "Is this a joke ? people aren't even using full teams in this competition"
>Delia: "Shhhh, don't ruin his moment, let him think this tournament counts, this way he'll be done and find a fucking job. man, remember that Sinnoh guy who goy a Darkrai and a Latios? What a badass, why couldn't my son be like him ?"

>anime is getting rebooted for SnS

Is it HER turn?

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this makes sense, the writing is SOOOO much better in SM compared to XY

So it's a fact Ash's mom is fucking that Mr Mime, right?

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Cringe

Would rather have her as MC than Ash at any rate.

Ahem, BURASTO BURN!!

Is this supposed to be the great Ash win we've been anticipating for years? They make him win a league once in 20 years and they can't be bothered to make it look good? What the fuck? Not to mention 3v3...

can't complain about XY having a lame writing when it has to be based on the games with the lamest story, people are pretending SM is the best simply because of the improvement on the source material, if DPPt was made today they would say it's the best anime ever made

Why would anyone want to put effort into making him look good?

Do it for the humor and the pokewaifus

It was a small tourney on a worthless island. pls. discard

Is Ash finally going to retire from the anime and turn 11?

20 years dude, fucking 20... it's, like, man... and they had good looking fights in the past in Pokemon.

I fucking hope. He's been insufferable for a long time now and the games protags could use this time they give this shitter.

How so? Just because it's less COTD centric doesn't make it that much better. Geniually want to hear what makes the writing so much better. Because I'm not seeing it at all

Good job for winning the most pathetic pokemon league since orange island, although that was 6 vs 6 actually. Now begone Ash and make a way for new blood and better series

It took 22 fucking years.

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Doesn't count.

>people think that the game protags won't get shat on by the writers

I barely know anything about pokemon but the girls looks great and I want to fuck Suiren the most.

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Based

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Based and cunnypilled.
Lily is best

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Don't.
Watch XY if you didn't

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>all that swimsuit fanart
Yes. Good stuff.

Both based. Acerola for me.

Stop spamming Yea Forums and go back to our containment board, you massive dick-sucking faggot.

>watch jobberfrog and ugliest main girl
No thanks.

It seems like XYfags are seething right now.

They were ever since their shitty "cut-hair-for-development" girl got axed as soon as their anime ended. Not even a special LOL.

>I want ash to win a league dammit!
>Fine but it's a league with magikarps, 80% Trainers who just started when Ash arrived in the region like three months ago and no one has a full a team.
This is a monkey paw if I've ever seen one but at this point I'll take it.

Why is he doing a swastika pose?

When we said that we wanted Ash to win a League, THIS IS NOT WHAT WE MEANT

No her

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idk why people think that. I liked XY, and it's pretty funny to see the ones who didn't like it defend SM so fervently.

SM actually has a reason to be defended.
XY in it's entirety was filler that never happened.

Now would be a good time for him to go back to Kanto and win his own backyard league.

>been spamming and self bumping for days now
>Majority of posts are telling you to fuck off back to /vp/ cause nobody cares about SM
>B-buh XY
Every time. Is there anything more pathetic than SMfags? You guys literally only discuss the anime just to talk about XY. Imagine watching a bad show because you're still seething about a fictional kiss on the lips. Imagine bragging about a league win but this is the animation you have to show for it . Imagine watching a show that had simplified animation friendly designs and yet somehow managed to have even worse animation. Imagine being the only series without a movie because the creators knew it was shit. Imagine having to make endless threads on Yea Forums and Yea Forums over and over because no one wants to watch your series.

Imagine being an SMfag and laugh. Laugh that there exists a group of people so pathetic they would not only eat shit, but seethe that others refuse to. Have a best girl, laugh at worst show.

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>shitrena
Stay irrelevant.

Aloha is Orange Islands tier, so who cares?

>XY movies are shit nobody remembers
>Based SM gives us an enjoyable stream of movies

woooowwww

FUCKING BASED

>tfw there are people who are still having nightmares about this scene
How does she do it?

>SM movies have nothing to do SM
Hit the nail on the head as to why they're good. Because they, just like everyone else who's not autistic, ignored SM.

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>nightmares about literalwho filler
Imagine actually having this saved on your HDD.

Yeah, this is a butthurt XYfag. I haven't watched the anime since the Sinnoh league but it's funny to see the idiots who spammed the board with their delusions and shitty threads getting mad just because Ash didn't win the league in their series.

wow, Ash has never been kissed before. T-totally not!

Cope.

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>this webm of Serena has better animation than then a fucking league battle.

Holy shit.

Will Ash be written out now?

Too bad it's with the ugliest possible girl in all of anime.

Cringe.

Some changes will happen to the anime for sure.

oh fuck you weren't supposed to point that out

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Dude you know no one would even mention XY if you didn't stick around watching a season you supposedly despise for 3 fucking years, mentioning how much better XY is every minute of the day right?

>ITT
>Butthurt XYfags
LMAO get over it you crying bitches. It’s pathetic.

>i-it was a kiss on the cheek
>a-a-animation error
>b-buh we won the magikarp league bros
Imagine
>I-I'm not still seething over the Ash's first kiss on the lips being from a series I hate
I love living in a world where we can make fun of SMfags

You do realize discussion of XY stopped like three episodes into SM when everyone who held out abandoned. The only people who mention SM now are SMfags like every (you) here and people like me who were browsing Yea Forums before stopping by for a quick laugh.

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>faggots cry about "XYfags" in every thread
>people who liked XY then explain why
>"REEEEE SHUT UP ABOUT XY"

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
LIVERBROS

Wait, Ash was really kissed? What happened after this scene?

Being kissed by a pokemon don't count

>3v3 meme league
The fucking orange league victory has more weight than this shit

Most based thing I've read all week.

>rent freet
>say the fanboy going mental and replying to every post
Well, at least I hope this means the anime will finally have a different MC and you guys keep raging at a kids show until you or the anime dies.

Ash won a league but not a big one because they're taking this into an (e)sports direction. Ash is now an actual pro but not a major pro, and the story will now involve things like sponsorship offers, making a brand, having fans, metagaming, minor leagues, challengers, etc.

They saw how popular pro spectator games are with kids (particularly the video game demographic meaning pokemon) and decided it was a good time to reshape the context of Ash's character to being a minor pro on his quest to become a major pro.

Based

She sexually assaulted him. That's why they had to remove her from the series.

>You do realize discussion of XY stopped like three episodes into SM when everyone who held out abandoned.
Things that never happened.
If you want proof, the OP for the general is STILL jerking XY. But then retards like you think you can play victim in any way. I reiterate, XY would not be mentioned at all if you didnt mention it first all the time every day, and then try to play victim.

Keep crying, now you have another reason to do it.

Damn I really need to watch it again, the doujins and art of the girls are god tier.

Yes all of those are improvements from the shitty writing of the games

Sword and Shield

>Gang splitting up
>before going Serena takes the chance to covertly confess by telling Ash that he's her goal and she's going to travel to become a better person for him.
>Ash reaffirms her but it doesn't seem clear whether or not he took it as a confession or a normal "I'm going to get stronger" (Ash is this super experienced mentor who has been bringing out the best of people this entire season for context as to why he didn't see it as confession even though it obviously was)
>Serena starts going down the escalator and for a moment it seems like she's going to exit the show with her romantic subplot never concluding
>The absolute mad lass turns around and starts running up the escalator
>Kisses Ash square on the lips before being pulled back down by the escalator
>Ash makes the face in that pic showing that her feelings reached him
>She thanks him and everyone waves her off, her arc concluded
>bitter SMfags around the world are born
Serena was based

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This would actually be cool but let's face it, they're just going to say it's another dimension or some shit with another MC and that's it

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Has it been that long?

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Wow, i can feel the seething from here, cry more.

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>You're such a failure, why you can't you be more like [fill in the blank]."

The only worse thing a parent could possibly say to their kid is that they wish they never had them in the first place.

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>let's face it, they'll do something stupid when they could go for fortnite money
There should be limits to how bitter someone can be. This isn't even "what if execs had soul" this is "what if execs tried to capitalize on modern video gaming trends", it makes perfect sense for them to do it.

Wait, so it's another Orange League?

Fuck you for getting my hopes up, OP.

It's not, it's just a bunch of retards trying to devaluate his victory because muh he was supposed to win in kalos
t. xyfag btw

I dont think japanese in general gives a fuck about fortnite money and old japanese execs especially don't know wtf all that esports shit is
I sure as hell barely know and I'm sure I know more than them

My god

Dreams do come true

I've never actually gone up early in mornings for Anime the way I did for XY. Even if the episodes weren't always the best, it was really comfy, and the hype was through the roof every time whenever we'd get news from CoroCoro or whatever about coming episodes, especially when XY&Z was announced.

I still remember some of the shows that were on the air before the XY episodes and I still remember some of the ED songs, because they would be the signal that the XY episode was about to start. Some people would even start watching those shows because they enjoyed them.

An example of an ED song that I still remember over 3 years later despite never having actually watched the show:

youtube.com/watch?v=WZx1ftobUT0

Bruh imagine thinking that making your competition more exclusive actually increases the difficulty lmao you’re retarded

>I dont think japanese in general gives a fuck about fortnite money
SFV is going to be at the tokyo olympics.

Does Japan even care about e-sports? I thought that was more a Chinese or Korean thing.

Actually disregard that I got tricked by stupid people on Yea Forums falling for Intel's tricks.

Still there's nobody that doesn't want fucking fortnite money. I can't escape battle royale shit even on Nico.

R-really!?

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The recent announcements kind do that on its own. The fact that there will be a reboot of some sort that brings either a reboot ash(with no continuity) or a new MC gives him a pity win kind of vibe. Also, the fact that there is no E4/champion to look forward to.

Ash never winning is half the reason why people drop the show

I'm not saying SM is amazing by the way but satoshi won fair and square against a great trainer.

It's okay I got tricked too

>this shit artstyle and animation

Jesus Christ, they make fucking hundreds of millions on this garbage. The least they could do is make it not look like ass. Then again it probably fits better with the autistic shit designs of the pokemon.

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Ironic that you'd post sailor moon

Well, this is certainly a downer.

Should have given him a proper, 6v6 sendoff.

They stopped caring in 2012. It all goes to shit now. The anime, the games... fucking worthless.

Still can't believe the incredibly low amount of effort they have been putting in the games for generations now.

It's really disheartening that they aren't trying to provide the fans, that made them such a success, with something even remotely decent.

>pity win

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>POOza dog
>has shit taste
like clockwork

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Okay, he won. He's a Poké Master.
Now what?

Individual pokegirls have weirdly few porn. Is it because of how numerous they are?

>the champion
Of what?

The only third-world region.

>a proper regional league

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>Serena was based
Just the amount of butthurt she causes definitely makes her. pd. I have a the perfect gif that fits your description for the unaware

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Yeah it does. Humans and Pokemon used to marry back in the days.

MODS WHERE IS THE FUCKING STICKY. THIS IS INSANE.

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Honesty if there's any trainer that would fuck a pokemon it'd probably be Ash,

a fucking joke league lmao

/vp/ doesn't have a sticky, why should Yea Forums?

yes

New MC

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But did he fuck Mallow?

>wins league
>awakens from his coma

God I hope so

kinda, is not an entirely madeup region, just the league, think of it as the paralympics

Wasn't that poster from deviantart?

This was confirmed fake. New series is just called "Pocket Monsters", no subtitle or anything.

Yeah every one fucked mallow

XY livestream threads were amazing. Lots of hype, everyone enjoyed the shows, people were watching the shows before Pokemon and becoming fans of them as well, and the tone was generally optimistic and happy.

SM livestream threads are just kinda depressing in comparison. If the episode was well received, the threads drowns in "XYfags btfo" spam, if they episode was poorly received the threads drown in "salty XYfags damage controlling because the episode was so perfect", and all the pre-Pokemon shows just get shat on for being "shit only dumb XYfags care about". The SM "fanbase" literally just lives to spew salt and unpleasantness.

That goes for most of this site, though.
Like when a new character for Smash gets revealed there's more people going "he's in, Xfags BTFO" than people genuinely happy their favorite made it.

22 years.
IT TOOK HIM 22 FUCKING YEARS TO DO THIS.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I think the franchise might be having issues maybe.

Ah, dat exodus after XY explains it.

I'm fine with it. Alola definetely felt subpar compared to other leagues from what i have seen, but why would I even be mad about pokemon anime of all things. honestly the only reason to be pissed about a children cartoon in this case is the following , the rest is just shitposting,really.

I was fucking 3 when it first came out and 5 or 6 when it aired in English.
Whenever I see pokemon I feel like I've wasted my youth.

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>A proper regional league

The purple one is cute

Why did fetal alcohol syndrome Ash have to be the one that wins?

This is a much more truthful account of why people are dissatisfied and empty about this.
Not "mad", I haven't seen a single person actually mad about this, it's just people not caring.

This is a much more truthful account of why people are dissatisfied and empty about this.
Not "mad", I haven't seen a single person actually mad about this, it's just people not caring.

why did plasma arc get canned?

For me, it's Drasna.

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The first episode was set to air the same week as the Tohoku earthquake happened, and the episode (and two others) got temporarily delayed because they showed some scenes of shaking buildings that would feel a bit Too Soon. Then, before they got around to actually airing that first Plasma episode, the writers learned about B2W2 and that it would have a different Team Plasma in it, so they decided to just leave the episode unaired and just introduce the second Plasma iteration later, rather than deal with the headache of figuring out how to have both in the show.

She's old

Now all he needs to do is hit puberty.

Like a fine wine.

OH NONONONO XY bros we got too cocky

meanwhile in SM we got Melmetal using the same move and same animation for like 4 minutes

>Ash's original character design
>never win a single tournament
>changed Ash's character design
>finally win a tournament

So the OG character designer was bias against Ash all along

Seriously why does he look like a huehue

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To Our Own Way Suddenly makes a lot more sense.

Pokemon (2019)? This can go two ways, I hope it's the better one

She could probably still have a child. You're just a quitter.

Like the anime itself

>dude just marry expired goods lmao

>"Oh Ash won a league what was it Kanto, Unova, Sinno- Oh it was the Alola league? I did'nt know Alola had a a lea-Oh they just made one? Well the competition must have been very tou-Oh it was mostly filled with no name fodder and had a 3 pokemon limit? Um.. Well good for him?"

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Egdelord-sama get the fuck out

You can marry whomever you want. I just like Drasna.

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Come on bro be supportive...

>there are anons that will defend the shitty SM animation as a way to cope that the XY anime had better animation
Is this how far we had fallen?

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Based Alainchad

>Orange Island tier filler
wow its fucking nothing

Looking at that other thread with all the wojaks and buzzwords thrown around should make it pretty clear that the "defense" of SM is mostly just (you) bait from Yea Forums.

Sinnoh design was peak followed by Kalos

>unironically watching Pokemon

Kys cringelord, watching anime is already retarded so whether or not it is pokemon doesn't matter.

>A FUCKING GUY WITH ONE MAGIKARP
>ASH WON A MATCH HE WAS DECLARED THE LOSER
>ASH DOESN'T EVEN HAVE SIX POKEMON ON HIS ROSTER

He finally wins at peak QUALITY

No not really.
The League was open to everyone. No badge or trial requirements. You could just show up. There was a dude who just brought one Magikarp.
Plus the League only had 3 Pokemon v 3 Pokemon, probably because Ash didn't even have a roster of six Pokemon because I guess they ran out ideas which mon they wanted to shill.
Then Ash proceeds to win with no tier 3 Evos, one of which involves a ref overturning a decision like a fucking bad WWE match.
SMfags are just trying to justify it because they don't want to admit they're accepting the abusive husband's apology flowers.

It is a fucking 3 vs 3, it is not even a full battle. Orange league at least have a full battle for the final.

>meme region
>meme fights
>meme artstyle
>bad animation
>filler league
Better than nothing but still

Yet that battle was very good. However the kukui one will be 6 vs 6

>because I guess they ran out ideas which mon they wanted to shill
No, they just did the dumb release thing that no one ever likes.

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mobile.twitter.com/staff_aoi/status/1173231975512956928

>watching anime is already retarded

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>the kukui one will be 6 vs 6
But it is a exhibition match, so whether he win or lose doesn’t matter. They could have at least make that the final for the league. Now it is just stupid.

We might as well consider Orange League

Escapism drugs >> raw entertainment
Kek, what a hopeless SoL junkie we have here.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH HIS FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE

Milky cup

>Cringe: the post

Look at his goofy face. Jesus I hate alola so much.

Imagine if they let him keep Sogeleo.
Name a single trainer who could even take it down with all their pokemon, let alone 3.

It’s entrails

Tobias

it just HAD TO BE S&M

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HE DID IT!

Can we have a new protagonist now, please?

I mean, what's the fucking point if we don't? Ash will just drop all his pokemon and forget that they ever exist, completely forget how to battle and even Pikachu will revert back to lvl 2 again in the next season.

Here's the fucking intelligent Yea Forumsnon I was looking for.

Why is this even allowed? Fucking Naruto of all shit with cancer faggots literally had better writing and pacing.

Don't follow Pokemon but what's wrong with this kiss? It's really cute.

OG Ash did win the Orange League

Just watch episode 128-139 and you're good to go.

The SM final League battle is way better the trainwreck that's Ash vs Cameron.

shitty cardboard cup

>boring girly girl with no personality
>tomboy Alain bootlicker
>ONI-CHAN MARRY THIS GIRL
Yikes!

Weak-ass frog who can't even beat a fire type despite having the type advantage.

Why so serious, XYfag?

He had no type advantage. Dragon typing cancels out the Water weakness for Fire

I think you mean art style, not animation.
You fucking mouth breather.

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The average trainer level in the Alola region is clearly inferior to that of others. The strongest native Alolans are probably the teacher, the gang leader and the tryhard brother. The teacher seems to be pretty strong but the other two are second-rate compared to what we've seen in past tourneys.

To be fair the animation was also really bad this episode

Please tell me they're going back to a regular art style for the next season

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>Over 20k twitts worldwide
>Anime-unrelated channels like GameXplain reporting on this
>Even fucking news outlets like CNN are talking about it
So what was that about the manga being the greatest Pokémon product out there, again?

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johto most kino
second to kalos which was made for shitposting

what is she doing

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Keeping him up for Lillie

>ash just keeps wandering around shopping through pokemon leagues until he finds some bumfuck unestablished league he can actually win
wow what e high point for this series, a day for the history books to be sure

he should have fucking went back to kanto and taken that league for his big win

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The true final battle of Alola

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I haven't watched Pokemon in 18 years an- OH MY GOD WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAAAACE

Ash might decide to bring his A-game and use some of the mons at Oak's lab.

Kino

"PSHA! Whats that Ash? You finally won a league after 20 years? Wait you mean to tell me you had a Mythical pokemon and all but only barely squeezed out a win?!
No wait, let me get this straight, you go and do a battle royal entry for 3 v 3 and win out against some smuck who hasn't even had his pokedex for a year!? And where was this 'League?' ALOLA?! You left pallet town all the way to the easiest place in the pokemon world just to beat up some first time trainer!? Hey girls get a load a' Pallet towns new junior league champion! Is that Trophy for ages 10 and up?! HAHAHHA!

"GARY GARY, HES OUT CHAD, HE WINS MORE LEAGUES AND HAS MORE BADGE!"

"Smell ya later Aloada Shit Champion!"

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what are those monstrosities

>loses in 6 giant stadium with thousand of spectators
>finally wins in someones backyard

Yeah, this is the kind of league victory we've been waiting for.

Gary was always a worse trainer than Ash. He lost in the Top 32 in Kanto and lost to Ash in the Top 8 in Johto

Time for Based Ash getting his reward!

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Ash didn't do shit, his Charizard was hacked and literally did half the battle for him when the other 5 pokemon got stomped by Gary.

I thought using legendaries to win a league was cheating according to everyone on the internet.

Guess protagonists get to play by different rules.

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what the hell happened to the art?

>tfw Sword Shield will never has as many best girls as SM
It's off to a bad start already

>Won the special olympics
Congrats

SM was literally the fanservice season of pokemon. They should've let ash win the Kalos league so he could enjoy some vacation on the eastern islands.

I actually consider pokemon S&M as "Pokemon Z", generation 6 and a half.

Sinnoh Ash > Other pussies

>Nice asses
>No cow tits
Pefrect 4me!

>first kiss at age 10

Jokes on Ash. I got my first kiss at age 8 from a blonde loli who lusted after my mexican shota cock in a hotel at Disney Land.

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If you are wearing a kick ass cape, you play by different rules.

Jokes on you, I got kissed when I was 6 and I had no idea what this older kid was doing to me

Jokes on you, I'm 25 and kissless.
If only I accepted my 8yo niece offer to kiss her last summer.

Technically the only times he used his legendary was against Gladion's legendary, and against Faba when he manipulated Meltan's Pokeball with his Hypno to intentionally have it get sent out (since he thought it was his weakest Pokemon).

It's not like Ash used only Melmetal to steamroll through most of the competition.

Imagine being the champion of alola and the orange islands

Jokes on you, I'm 29 and kissless despite already losing my ass virginity.

he became spic

absolutely based

Yeah although it was in a lamer league that didn't even have 6v6

He really needs to do a big league with his best pokemon

People took the Kalos loss well. I was expecting a salt storm but most people shrugged it off.

Ash took the Kalos loss well, People didn't. Pokémon's videos got disliked bombed, unrelated TVTokyo videos got disliked bombed, there was a shitstorm on Twitter, some people actually burned Pokémon merch etc. Even some of the staff posted on Twitter saying he should have won.

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FUCK YOU

Will Ash finally give Misty her bike?

He did that back in 2002.

>People took the Kalos loss well.

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They did have a league though, Kukui creates it after you deal with the Lusamine shit

All 3 recent Pokemon games SM, USUM, and Let's Go all had a story about your character becoming the first champion. In the case of LGPE you were a champion if you beat the E4 but the player's attempt is for a permanent role.

to show the audience Ash literally had to go to a 3rd world shithole to win a shitty league with handicapped trainers

Yes, all those slums in Hawaii are the worst. Why would anyone go there?

>People took the Kalos loss well

the only region that comes close of being third world-tier is Hoenn because it has shitholes like Oldale, Fallarbor and Pacifidlog

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He should have won in Johto then lost to the elite four.

>Step down animation

How brainlet are xyzfags? SM have the best animation (Pure soul with facial emotions).

Is amazing how edgylords praise shonenshit like xyz with a frog asspull and boring season (Flop in Japan).

hawaii is a pisshole, theres nothing about it you cant find elsewhere

>at least I won a pokemon league and didn't give up my dream like a fagget, Gary. I bet the job you have right now is thanks to gramps Oak.

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that is not my Ash
who the fuck is that

>gary: reaped all kinds of pussy and enjoyed the best part of the pokemon adventure, carefree youthful adventures with your companions, before knowing when to quit and starting a career (pokemon professor no less, once again harvesting all pussy)
>ash: spends 20 years as a couch-crashing freeloader before giving up and winning a made up league just so he can say he did
yeah, I'm thinking gary gary he's our man.

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Sure, and the Blues won the Stanley Cup

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>Flop in Japan
By what measure?

CNN is stupid. They literally title it as ash finally becoming Pokémon master. How the fuck does winning one of the shittiest league make you Pokémon master?

Gary still lost to ash and gave up.
>muh pokemon professor
Sure, good for him i guess. Meanwhile our CHAD mc just got a huge step closer to become a pokemon master

if beating a pretend league is one step closer to becoming a pokemon master then Ash is still no closer than he was literally 20 years ago as of last week when he won the Orange League

congratulations, after two (2) decades, ash finally replicated his little league win

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imagine that. dude goes to pokemon school, finally is smart enough to become a champion

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Wait. He won because he had a mythic Pokemon?

Carried.

He learned from Tobias

I don't have a Switch but I'm going to buy physical copies of Sword and Shield to support physical copies

Can we finally have Pokemon Special adaptation?

"best animation"

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youtube.com/watch?v=xxJiTrNCywA

Cocotama didn't deserve this

didnt they delete all those videos too?

camera wildly flys around to give the illusion of good dance animation.

He did it bros, he finally did it

...Of the Meme League, where his first two wins were gags and his third was because Guzma's Goliscopod fucking threw the match. But hey, MUH SATOSHI WON, right?

About fucking time christ

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>Meanwhile our CHAD mc just got a huge step closer to become a pokemon master
Winning a little league with fluke victories after jobbing big-time in the big boy tourney is a huge step up? Okay, pal.

Animation is the motion. It's actually harder to animate with a dynamic camera so the fact that serena remained consistently on model despite seamless camera rotation is an impressive feat of animation that most Idol anime can't even pull off. If you think that's bad then you don't know what good animation is.

Why does Ashe and Pikachu look like potatoes now?

Kiawe was Ash's best companion, discuss

I haven't cared about the ending of Pokemon since the 1st season when I was a kid. It amazes me that this garbage still went on to this day and on top of that the character design did a full 180 to appeal to the non-white audience of the series.

This

The mythic pokemon fucking jobbed to another legendary how is that a carry.

By this logic, he's also the champion of the Orange League....
Sword and Shield look like shit compared to games over ten years older than it...

I'm so sickened by the state of Pokemon. This was once one of the most promising series of all time, now reduced to Disney Star Wars Levels.

Fuck it, let's just wait for the next series reveal. Maybe we can salvage SOMETHING.

>By this logic, he's also the champion of the Orange League
He is, what extraneous logic do you think is needed for this?

Yes, edgy scenes like shonenshit are not animation stupid xyztranny

>jobbing big-time in the big boy tourney
The term "jobbing" means he threw the fight, which implies he was capable of winning, so are you acknowledging he was capable of winning major leagues? Unless you're just using jobbing as a synonym for losing

Why the fuck is this in our National News?

tldr Serena got officially paired with him and a bunch of obsessed shippers got really angry.

They always delete preview videos after the episode airs.

Second best.

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It would be cool, considering Galar is all about that shit but I am always cautious regarding anything Pokemon. These fucks always have shit ideas or execute glorious ideas in god awful ways.

I'll never forgive them.

>should make it pretty clear that the "defense" of SM is mostly just (you) bait from Yea Forums.
But most of Yea Forums is shitposting negatively about the league...

Tobias said Gible would fuck the rest of his team and I doubt he can take down Solgaleo with just Darkrai and Latios.

In 7 games

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they don't know the difderence between animation and artstyle

"Most of", yes. But the defense of the league almost exclusively boils down to "cope seethe btfo XYfag look at my wojak spam" and similar Yea Forums "arguments".

his johto run was the most kino

People shit on how he looks but I like the design here.

Give us an adventures adaptation already

I can't believe there's still people asshurt that people enjoyed XY. Why didn't this happen in the DP to BW transition?

It did.
>Pokemon is finally good again like it was in Kanto
>Ash is funny and not a dumb robot
>Iris is a sassy girl and not one of those dumb waifubait dancers like Dawn and May. If you don't like her you're racist btw
>Team Rocket are serious like they were in early Kanto and not incompetent jokes
>If you don't like BW you're just upset about Tobias

The worse a series is, the more obnoxious shitposters it gets as its "fandom" defense squad.