Is there a character more chad the gilgamesh?
>divine spirits bow to Gilgamesh
>in contact with Types
>possesses clairvoyance-like abilities
>controls Uruk with a fair but iron fist
>was the first hero ever recorded
>owns all the treasures of the world
>direct descendant of the ancient divine bloodline
>will bankroll the first city-states in Babylonia (Uruk will be the first city)
>all Saint Quartz trace their existence back to his vault
>practices Prima Nocta, 99% of humanity can trace their ancestry to Gil
>first post-humans will have red eyes and golden hair
>said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in temples of Ishtar & the Cedar Forest
>defeated Huwawa, Gugalanna and Tiamat
>ancient Babylonian scriptures tell of a demigod who will descend upon Earth and bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with him
>founded /fgog/ and /fgoalter/
>you are reading his thread right now
>Gilgamesh is in regular communication with the Director and the Pope, forwarding the word of Gil to the Church and Association. Who do you think set up the meeting between the Director, the Pope and Zelretch (first meeting between the three powers in over 2000 years) and arranged Chaldea's first trip to Babylonia in history literally a few day's travel from Uruk itself?
>learned fluent Japanese in under a week
>tanked the Hydra's poison without even blinking
>judges the dead in the Underworld
>built a wall and made other city states pay for it
>nation states trust their gold reserves with Gil. There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Uruk
>He appears about 3 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>in reality, he is a timeless being existing in the Throne of Heroes at all points in time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don't know his ultimate plans yet. We hope he's a benevolent being.
Is there a character more chad the gilgamesh?
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He’s a fucking jobber
Anyone that has fucked seibah
>gets beat by an autistic teenager
Shirou was pretty based too
Reminder who’s the better king
Camelot aka the Lion Virgin arc
>there's a crisis! shit's fucked!
>time to go full Madagascar and close all the fucking borders
>fate says we're gonna lose so why bother fighting, let's just make a museum to collect some special specimens of humans
Babylon aka the Chadgamesh arc
>there's a crisis! shit's fucked!
>fuck you, we'll keep fighting anyway
>fate says you'll lose? fuck fate that fucking zasshu!
>Refugees? Bring em on, as long as you're willing to keep fighting, you have worth as a citizen... for this is a battle to save Humanity!
>tanked the hydra poison without even blinking
But he was dying until his boyfriend came to save him.
>owns all the treasures of the world
He doesn't have Vasavi Shakti
>first hero ever recorded
Not really, there are heroes older than him, like Karna and Arjuna.
Epic of Gilgamesh predates the Mahabharata by more than 1000 years.
>But he was dying until his boyfriend came to save him.
He got his GoB sealed off by ishtar so he could only use the weapons he had out. Even then he was still dabbing on alciedes. Only when gulganna showed up and started attacking him was when he got distracted and hit by the hydra arrow.
>Is there a character more chad the gilgamesh?
Ozy
>who’s the better king
Ozy
>gets btfo by a snake
OH NONONO HELP GILBROS
>gets the youth potion anyways
Based Gil
>He got his GoB sealed off by ishtar so he could only use the weapons he had out. Even then he was still dabbing on alciedes.
No he wasn't. He was getting BTFO'd. Also prior to that, Richard was dabbing on him
the extended version of the story is literally the ancient civilization equivalent of fanfiction
>he doesnt know how Gil dabbed on Richard with a lightning dragon
>he doesn’t know how Alcides suddenly abandoned his fuck schtick and needed Ishtar’s help when he was getting BTFO bu Gil
>needed Ishtar's help
Alcides was BTFOing Gil though. Ishtar locking his GoB was just the final nail
>Alcides tries to bait him into using Ea
>Gil just aims at the parts of Alcides that aren’t covered by the lion pelt and BTFOs him
Sure, he definitely didn’t need Ishtars help
May have exaggerated a bit but the narrator clearly said that even with his GoB sealed off he was still holding his ground since he had a lot of weapons out already.
He's good but best beast is cuter.
Gilgamesh is fucking trash. Even in his full powered form in Extra, he's now surpassed by Super Karna who's still gimped by the Lancer class.
>literally being powered up by multiple gods
So? That's how heroes are. Heck, Vasavi Shakti is from Indra himself. Why doesn't Gilgamesh do the same? Oh wait, he can't, Because he hates them lmao.
>is powered by the Gods
also
>being less powerful then Karna at his absolute peak with Gods giving him strength makes you trash
Is there a servant you think isn't trash?
Shiva and Vishnu were directly powering him up, retard. Arjuna also had all of the gods giving him power.
>Dialogue 5 (if you have Gilgamesh)
>A golden man? There is no limit to his pride, and it seems there is no meaning to determination. It's not my taste, but I must acknowledge his way of being as a king. He doubtlessly led a strong country, a strong people. I feel a little jealous about that
Gilgamesh's hatred of the gods is pretty well justified. Pantheons are usually shit
>Shiva and Vishnu were directly powering him up
Yes. And?
That’s my boy Napoleon
>founded /fgog/ and /fgoalter/
>built a wall and made other city states pay for it
>worse Iskandar
>gimped by the Lancer class
What's so bad about Lancer? I thought Assassin or Rider were the worst classes.
>Is there a character more chad the gilgamesh?
Yes
Nah usually berserkers and assassins get the Shaft
>cringes so hard at his younger self he goes back in time to an hero
Well at least he’s had a role in the story, rather than a throwaway appearance in Septem
>Wants to kill himself because he reads a bunch of reports about what his CG self has done
Daily reminder that when a CG Emiya gets summoned hes nothing more than a mindless drone. When his job is done he gets a "report"(raw data) to his soul in the throne about what he's done.
what a pussy
Gilgamesh has a very large number of finite swords, EMIYA literally has infinite swords.
Whoops, wrong picture.
Gil has hotsprings inside his Gate as seen in Prisma, Emiya wishes he could be summoned in such luxury
He has his memories and experience of his work as a CG, why do you think Rin can see them when she dreams about him? Only actual memories from the servant are included there.
But Gil has stuff other than swords. Can Emiya pull out 80 golden dragon dildos plus anal bead accessories?
>What's so bad about Lancer? I thought Assassin or Rider were the worst classes.
Nothing, and there are no "worst" classes at all. What I meant by Karna being gimped by being in the Lancer class is that Karna is gimped by being in a class container. Class containers are usually good, as they make the heroic spirit stronger than what they usually were in life, but class containers are the weakness of heroes who were actually strong in life like Karna. For example, Karna doesn't have access to his bow and chariot while he's in the Lancer class, or Artoria not having access to Rhongomyniad while being in the Saber class.
Yes, according to Nasu he can even pull out armor and shields from UBW.
what about lube?
EMIYA doesn't need lube, he likes asses raw.
I don't think he meant the lancer class is bad or anything, but rather that Karna would have been stronger as an archer. Like pretty much every hero, apparently.
Also, what the hell do you have against the rider class? In many cases having a mount is like having a second servant, and riders tend to have multiple noble phantasms on top of that. Ozymandias, Achilles, Iskandar, Medusa, each of them are overpowered as hell. Pale Rider is an enigma, too.
enkidu by virtue of just shaking his ass a little being enough to stop gil.
imagine if enkidu actually decided to fight him, who knows what gil would do against his clay chain chad bf.
Rin and Archer kill Gilgamesh and take his hotspring in their hanafuda route.
But user they fought all out for like a week in the legend. I think that's when Gil first started shooting stuff out of Gate of Babylon
I'd need a source for him being able to summon armor effectively, but yes, shields and such are just barely covered in the category of "sword," since they're also melee weapons. They require 3x as much mana to produce as swords do, though. Theoretically, EMIYA could replicate any kind of object with his projection magic. It's just that his "sword" origin makes it so that he can do swords and things related to swords really easily; beyond that, he could still do it, just at the same level as you would expect of a weak magus.
>what the hell do you have against the rider class?
Never played HF so the only riders I've seen are
>Iskandar jobbing to Ea
>Medusa jobbing to a a teacher in UBW
>genderbent Drake in Extra
>Astolfo in Apocrypha
They didn't really do any outstanding feats in the show.
>Imagine if Enkidu actually decided to fight Gilgamesh, who knows what would happen.
Uh, it was a stalemate, wasn't it?
you look at their fate designs and tell me that their weeklong "intense grappling contest of strength" being the time Gil "first started shooting stuff out of GoB" is exactly that and not resulting from Enkidu's prostitute education.
JK, though where does the whole Gil using GoB for the first time specifically against Enkidu come from? Strange Fake?
>>Ozy
>>BTFO by Moses
>God's slave
>Medusa jobbing to a teacher in UBW
True, but that scenario was like a perfect storm. There were at least three pretty extreme factors in play there.
One, Medusa's acting master at the time was Shinji, who can't even use magic.
Two, when amped by Caster's magic, Kuzuki is stated to be comparable to a Saber class servant.
Three, Kuzuki's specialty is assassination techniques, and Medusa is relatively weak in close quarters, so that surprise attack in the classroom was the worst possible scenario.
>Astolfo
He was a notoriously weak heroic spirit to begin with. Plus, considering that, his build was actually surprisingly useful. Also, speaking of Apocrypha, no mention of Achilles?
>Francis Drake
Don't bring Last Encore into this.
>"Jobbing" to fucking Ea
Oh come on, man.
>Theoretically, EMIYA could replicate any kind of object with his projection magic.
No, he himself states that anything he replicates outside of swords are either hollow shells or extremely brittle objects. The combination of having both sword as his origin
AND element made it possible for him to even be capable of projecting something on the level of noble phantasm. Nevertheless, no he isnt capable of projection anything due to the constraints by his origin/element.
It's not that it was the first time he used Gate of Babylon. It was just the first time he resorted to autistically launching his treasures as projectiles instead of wielding them properly.
I honestly don't remember, so I could be completely wrong. But for some reason I think I read somewhere that Gil was trying to use different weapons against Enkidu but got exasperated and just started to shoot swords at him.
I agree with Medusa and Astolfo, but literally anyone not having Avalon can job against Ea. Also Rider Achilles is the second strongest servant in Apocrypha. Only Karna can beat him
>防具も可能だが、その場合は通常投影の二倍〜三倍の魔力を必要とする。
Here's the original quote from world mats
Even his projection with things that aren't swords far surpass that which a normal mage can accomplish. They're such perfect imitations that the world mistakes them for the real thing and doesn't degrade them like normal projections, allowing them to stay indefinitely.
>What is Rho Aias, Archer's bp shooting bow and the hundreds of projections Shirou keeps in his shed
Well yeah, like I said, his projections of non-sword-related items would be at the level you'd expect of a trash magus like Shirou. He can still pull it off, just not very well...
>What is Rho Aias, Archer's bp shooting bow and the hundreds of projections Shirou keeps in his shed
Apparent those fall close enough to "weapons" however they also cost much more mana to project so its not really efficient.
Anime only here, is there a HGW that plays straight without any cheating?
>Fate Zero: Kotomine stealing and using command seals to fuel himself
>UBW: Gilgamesh interfering
>Apocrypha: Ruler interfering and Shirou rigging everything
>alt world Prisma Ilya: Shirou asspulling an Archer card
>Extra: moon cell system
Yes, why would you ever want a bland HGW.
nope
Nope. Fragments have Manaka contracting with 3 servants while Strange Fake have Ishtar interfering
Did you just conveniently ignore that Iskander had prominent role in FZ anime, has influence in CF and also had played a pretty important role in the FZ event?
>Nasu sets up rules only to be broken
>there's not a single HGW that plays without any interference
No we have never gotten a boring run of the mill "a few honorable duels, a few noble phantasms, everybody go home" grail war.
Miyu's world was technically a hgw without cheating. We don't know how you get to choose who to place inside the card. In Shirou's case it might be he was the catalyst himself to call EMIYA.
It was straight up HGW with a clear winner.
If Gilgamesh is so good why isn't there a Gilgamesh 2?
Autism and pissing contest
Cu is the Chad of the common man.
>divine without boasting
>only true berserker not of norse legend
>beats warrior cougars with spear and manspear
>burns bright and short, no time for bullshit
>honorable, but not too proud
>knows art of runes and shanking bitches
How was Caster Cu able to solo a HGW when Lancer Cu's supposed to be stronger?
He was friends with the MC
thisfreaking astolfo won the war in fate apoc
Well for one thing, Luck E is a bitch. Secondly, Caster didn't have to deal with a shitty backstabbing master like Kotomine.
>Luck E
Is there a particular justification for that? Sure Cu wasn't all that lucky in his legend since destiny came back to bite his ass multiple times, but luck E is pretty bad.
Severe penalty to luck seems to be a characteristic of the lancer class. Even Artoria's luck, which is absurdly high ordinarily, is only average when she's summoned as a lancer.
Based gilchad
*blocks your path*
>O MY PATHS
Outside of DAs, gods, Avalon, and anything else above Servant tier, what can defeat Ea?
If by "DA" you mean divine constructs, then there's probably nothing that can.
Outside of type mercury, i doubt any of the DAs would be able to survive a full on clean hit from Ea.
Ah, never mind, you meant dead apostle. In that case, the obvious answer is Enkidu's Enuma Elish.
>Not really, there are heroes older than him, like Karna and Arjuna.
Yeah that's right (pretty sure LB4 confirmed this) but Epic of Gilgamesh was recorded before Mahabharata.
Do you know the Origin Form in CCC? Super Karna is basically that.
How is Rider bad?
Rider in FSN was badass in HF
Rider in Zero was loved by a lot of people and was pretty strong too
Rider of Black was the winner of Apocrypha war and Rider of Red was fucking Achilles
Fragments Rider was the strongest in the HGW, needing 5 servants working together just to beat him
True Rider in Strange Fake is Hippolyta who is a badass and False Rider is Pale Rider who also looks like a badass
Extra Rider was a jobber though
In most grail wars rider tends to be meh tier compare to the other servants.
>FSN
Literally all the servants besides assassin are superior to her.
>Zero
Saber and Archer outshine him, even caster is better than him when he summons his demon.
>Astolfo
the 3rd weakest servant in the grail war. only "won" since he was the last one alive since he was always following the MC
>Achilles
Yeah one of the better riders on your list. Still outshine by vlad, karna, and chiron tho
>Fragments
No comment, didnt read that story
>True Rider
Hippo has achieve nothing so far. And that grail war is mostly filled with high tier servants. Out of the ones we know of right now, the only one she might be able to beat is zealot and jack.
>Panhistoryshitters
How does he feel this Beast fucked his king every night for years while he was lonely at the temple?
Super Karna had the SAME shit of the unlocking origin of CCC. You didn't play either game. God Arjuna is basically the Origin Arjuna version too BECAUSE he embraced his role.
>mfw your pantheon patron god becomes a slave to Solomon
Cheating in what way? A Super Master and Super Servant btfoing everyone? Happened in FGO Fuyuki Grail War.
>raped someone and forced her to raise the rape-child
>he kills his grown-up child later
>Gilfags
Cucked by a high school boy.
Was it ever stated exactly how much of a boost servants get when unlocking their origin? I find it hard to believe that god karna=unlock origin karna.
Hindu heroes foundation is to receive gift or become avatars of their gods.
The process/training to get Karna into this is the exact same shit happened in CCC with Hakuno's Servants. Replace Liz with Ash.
No. It was a stalemate between them. Both of you are wrong.
>origin
Oh nononono, tertiarybros, don't expose yourselves! What you're citing was literally fake spoilers on the day of LB4. It's explained in lore that Super Karna is not an origin form. It's Shiva, Vishnu (and also Surya since Karna holds his essence) directly giving him their powers and authorities. This is not something like "hold my NP bruh", this is giving him all their power. He basically became as strong as the entire pantheon of gods with that.
It has nothing to do with origin form. There is not a moon cell in LB4. And Karna was just training with Ash for a time so he could receive his Shiva power.
Solomon and Moneybill's HGW. If you consider summoning Solomon to be fair play.
...
>Being this assblasted that you were citing false info and completely misrepresenting what an origin form was.
Kek. Super Karna's probably stronger than origin forms anyway.
watch out Gil! there comes Siduri
HAHA LOOK AT THAT LAHMU IT THINKS IT'S FRENCH
>It's explained in lore that Super Karna is not an origin form
Never stated. Stop quoting redditors bullshit.
>gods giving powers
That's how Hindu heroes operate. Yes it's absolutely his origin form.
sounds like a mary sue
You know Emiya's Origin Form is being powered by all the nameless/unsung heroes right?
"It doesn't count" either?
Don't pretend to be a moonrune speaker.
at least you got the coloring right
>sees uruk now
Can't fault him for wanting to destroy humanity.
>7.5
>CHAD
Karna wasn't 'training' with Ash. Ash defeated his Zero form as Liz did with Gil/Nero/Tamamo/EMIYA in order for them to unlock that power up.
Each power up is tailored.
Camelot is so fucking weird. Nasu says she was the ideal king but the actual events suggest and confirm it was exactly what a kingdom run for autists by autists would turn out if most of the kingdom wasn’t actually autists
No wonder Morgan was so salty
>Gil was locked up and used as a battery by Karl de Grobe
>Karna got to slay the concept-eating, civilisation destroying alien giantess so hard in his route that future keeps continuing
Extella was not kind to Gil lol
Morgan is three people in one so I don't know if she counts as salty. Mordred dropped she's like Humbaba she has multiple souls. Only 1/3 of her is salty.
Why this sheero is so based
>Want to fuck Saber real bad
>Likes that Saber is unobtainable to him romantically
Is there a bigger cuck than Gil?
Humbaba has multiple souls? Huh. And I mean, she was salty enough that she spent most of her life trying to ruin Arturia’s and was barely a blip on her radar so I assumed all of them were salty
Kek
No he’s just autistic. Even when his plan does work and he stains her with the grail mud he doesn’t like what happens and loses interest
OH NO NO NOOOOO
It’s also probably due to the overall Irish mythos approach to fate. It’s very similar to Norse myth in how things are already set and you gotta do the best with what’s up. That said the Celts were more ok let’s just have fun about it compared to the Norse.
That and Cu is literally Irish Achilles in the sense of rushing ahead to a prophecized short life in exchange for immeasurable fame and glory. He followed his destiny to a T while also being super badass along the way. Meanwhile you have Medb who fucks with destiny by doing shit like being told her son named X will kill her enemy, so she makes all her sons that so they’ll kill that guy.