Is old old anime really that much better, or are people just blinded by nostalgia?

Some looked cool, like the biopunk organic mech shit from the 90s. 80s and older were meh.

yes. both

Most of it is forgettable trash that isn't even watchable beyond the first three episodes because it just turns into a clip show with laser lights
The only true difference is that there weren't as many shows that existed entirely on the reference of otaku culture, and that the difference between said culture then and now makes some of them a bit more bearable

Depends, but mostly it's nostalgia.
Old anime used to follow the sitcom formula of barely any main storyline and just a bunch of self-contained stories for each episode.
Which is fine when you're 10 and follow anime on the afternoon after your homework as a hobby.
But it sucks when you're 20 and binge watch anime because you like the story and want to follow the narrative.
Imagine if you wanted to watch something like Inuyasha right now, how long until you get tired of bees and YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THE LAST OF ME HA HA HA AH

I tried watching Inuyasha as a teen and ended up dropping it because it felt like the story didn't go anywhere and it was just wasting my time. Did the story ever pick up and get interesting?

it's not better in terms of animation but story telling it sure is

You don't watch Inuyasha or any RT work for the the story telling. It's episodic adventure/comedy shit with maybe a through plot. I swear why do so many lore and story fags never get this shit.

I've never gotten the appeal of shit like that. I want a story where I can see the characters grow over a long period of time. That's why I love shit like FMA and Gungrave.

After years of thinking of this question, I have came to the conclusion that anime was most certainly better pre-2006. No, there is no nostalgia behind my answer, since I never got into anime until around the mid-2000s. Anime since then has severely declined since the release of a certain bad series called Haruhi Suzumiya. I swear ever since that series came out it seems like the overall quality of anime just started to sharply decline.

reeeeeeeeee that image

>tfw watching cowboy bebop, yu yu hakusho, inuyasha and tenchi muyo on the vcr from recording adult swim since I wasnt allowed up that late
>would watch in between gaming sessions on ff tactics
fuck I will never get that back

Dont forget about CG crowds, those are my favorites

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Eh I find it harder now to binge watch anime and I prefer episodic stiff because of this. I get maybe an hour a day to watch anime

More innovative and less pandering.

I have watched precisely 3 (THREE) of these anime. How many of them are actually worth watching. I don't want to watch all of crayon shin-chan again because some retards told me to

3x3 eyes remake when?

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There was bad and good anime just like today. The difference is that the good stuff from back then is better animated than most of best of today.
Hell, even the hentai anime was better animated.

ikuhara is still the only one who manages to do them right by having them heaps stylised as a kinda metaphor
even if mawaru penguindrum did other things average, this was a damn good move

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Digital art is a mistake.

Bible Black.

The over use of digital and CG robbed animation of its soul. It's just churning out the same looking empty shit again and again.

These
Cell animation would always look better.

Also character designs were far better than today's noseless bland moe blobs ans self-insert male MCs.

Both.

You would've have think that since digital painting make shading way easier and cheaper you would see it more often, but nope.

*cel animation
My mistake

>NEC XM29+
Nice! Off topic, but how did you come upon your monitor?

Cel animation isn't better, it's just more expensive, and that higher budget spills into other aspects of the production.
There are a few techniques like Light board glows that are still difficult to emulate, but that's ultimately superficial.

Anime in the 80s and 90s was the product of the economy boom. Show's could last 50-100 episodes easily whether the story warranted it or not.

Just take a look at some new popular titles
Overlord cgi
BHA backgrounds are so shit they could be drawn by 12 year old
MP100 looks like phineas and ferb
Choppy animation in almost every show
Old anime is worse visually

I think the average viewer doesn't care about backgrounds that's why they don't put effort in them anymore.

Not all old shows are good, and not all new shows are bad. It is as simple as that.

>today's noseless bland moe blobs
>today's

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>Cel animation isn't better
Because digital motion tweens are so much better

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Exception does not prove the rule

I mean, the most well animated anime film of all time comes from the digital era.

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>noseless
That's one thing I always notice when I watch old anime, everyone had actual noses.

>redline best animated anime film of all time
That's debatable.

I hear this argument, but is there proof that an equal number of series were made back in the 70s-80s as opposed to now with CG aid and outsourcing?

>so much effort on this picture
>those tits
why
her chest looks like the roof of a two-domed mosque

a solid third of this is certified trash

>the most well animated anime film of all time comes from the digital era.
>from digital era

Yeah, I miss that. They also suffered way less from same face plus had shading and therfore didn't look flat af.

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I wanna say both new and old has good and bad but if you compare old good to new good the old good just feels more special for different reasons.

The only thing that distinguish modern anime characters is their over the top messy outfits.

I miss 5 tone shading, now we get 2 tone shading at best.

>MANY FRAMES = GOOD
The animation in Akira looks unsettling.

It's supposed to look unsettling.

>Exception does not prove the rule
Brain damage?

>>MANY FRAMES = GOOD
Yes, shit taste moron. The more frames the more fluid is the animation.

The first 12 minutes of Redline alone literally blows anything from Akira, Patlabor 2 or Honneamise out of the water
youtube.com/watch?v=rRLPdgcGPRg

This.

I didn't mean that in a good way. It's jarring.
Then I guess interpolation makes everything look better and rotoscoping is the peak of animation.

I meant the vice versa...

You're right. We get 15 tone shading!

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What an awful opinion

>fluid animation is always rotoscoping
Nice strawman idiot

>interpolation
That's digital animation you retard

>posts a show that's supposed to look like 80s/90s anime

I don't think that they even believe in what they post. It's more of an ironic shitposting.

That's some of the worst anime ever made

Apart from Lain and Azumanga all my shit is from 2007 or later.
What oldfag kino am I missing lads.

>Apart from Lain and Azumanga all my shit is from 2007 or later

>What oldfag kino am I missing lads
You have no idea how much you uncultured swine

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>fluid animation is always rotoscoping
Well speak about strawmanning!
>That's digital animation you retard
Ah, so "MANY FRAMES = GOOD" doesn't apply anymore because of your arbitrary feelings about digital animation? The namecalling unfortunately fails to mask your utter stupidity.

>2007
is that the year you were born in?

>posting without having watched all of them

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>Well speak about strawmanning!
Newfag doens't get implying...

>Ah, so "MANY FRAMES = GOOD" doesn't apply anymore because of your arbitrary feelings about digital animation?
Motion tween is shit you retard

>fails to mask your utter stupidity
That's rich from the idiot who try to disclaim more frames in cel animation isn't better by pointing out digital animation method

Blinded by nostalgia, mostly.
The ratio of good to bad anime's been mostly the same for the last 40 years.
People will worship literal garbage like Kite just because it's old and stylish.

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I don't think nostalgia is that much relevant here. It's not like people defending old games with horrible controls that aged like milk, old anime style is very appealing to this day and I can very well see why people would prefer it. That said, I like modern anime style more.

>only watched Stringendo
Good shit. They don't make em like they used to anymore.

Weird collection it follows no rhyme or reason.

If it was only nostalgia I wouldn't like old anime I watch for the first time.

I like really ridiculous hotblooded sci-fi anime and besides Symphogear there's barely any truly hotblooded anime left.
I don't like modern anime that much.

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Even normies can name Akira and Ghost in the Shell. Aside from Miyazaki films pretty much nothing else of cultural consequence has come out since 2005.

How would you decide which anime is better? Sales amount? If yes, then compare them. Critical opinion? Choose the critics and compare their opinions. user personal opinion? Then everything is good and bad at once.

>hotblooded
Sometimes it feels like I'm the only one who misses the dramatic shit. Anime as a genre was made for this.

normies really like opman and snk

I still love how Escaflowne looks and sometimes rewatch it just for the artstyle but when I see discussion about it it's always how it didn't age well and the noses are too big.

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>I like really ridiculous hotblooded sci-fi anime and besides Symphogear there's barely any truly hotblooded anime left.
Symphogear really does feels like a culmination of the best parts of older and modern anime coming together, it's the Saint Seiya of mahou shoujo. Shame it's fucking ending.

streamable.com/6hk2c

FPWP

Depends. Some were bad, some were actually good and enjoyable. Matter of taste.

>I only like things if normalfags talk about them
Low IQ sheep.

Escaflowne would have been much better without that cunt of the female MC. But I do agree that it looks great, nose and all.

People writing "OLD ANIME GOOD NEW ANIME BAD" don't actually watch old anime, nor do they know jack shit about new anime. I can guarantee you that 100% of those guys have watched less than 100 series.

>animes so popular they're continuously referenced in media around the world doesn't rate compared to my sister fuck harem show

BEEEEEEEEHHHH

BEEEEEH

BEEEEEEEEEH

I just recently watched it and finished it. It's great, the ending however is very disappointing.

The blend between Sci-Fi and Fantasy elements were flawless and great handling of the harem.

>without that cunt of the female MC
>disliking Hitomi
Shit taste

Merle was the true insufferable cunt and most useless character, devoid of any personality besides muh Van-sama!

>I'm contrarian who only likes obscure shit

Great bait material. I'd say a third is garbage, a third are masterpieces and the last third is bland as fuck. Great variety of old and new, and obscure and well-known.
Also, if you haven't watched most of those, you're likely missing out.

>strawman
I enjoy plenty of popular anime.
Akira is a pleasure to watch, and the first GitS is really really great.
I don't judge things based on how other judge them, is this a too hard concept to grasp for a sheep like you?

>ending however is very disappointing
That's because they had to cut the amount of episodes in half.

The point that user made to begin with wasn't anything to do with being good, but rather influential which popular things are usually are...

>cel animation is better than modern animation meme
weird. cel looks more like trash to me

Yes.

You look like trash to me

>OP ask in old anime is better
>fag answer that old anime is more influential >implying that being more popular with normalfags make something better

>n-n-no he didn't mean that being more popular means that it's better

This is it
Thread is over

I think they could still pull good ending with better writing.

the main problems were: no one won the Hitomibowl, hence all the harem was pointless
the execution Folken death was stupid
the fact that in the end Hitomi power was backfired and gave up on it, was also making her efforts meaningless

Tell me which are the masterpieces user. Please don't tell me to watch the touhou one.

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>not mentioning the shoehorned Dilandau being Allen's sister subplot
By far the worst thing in Escaflowne, though the whole show started falling apart once it began using timeskips.

To this day I ask myself if that was planned from the beginning or not.

It starts off with promise, has iconic imagery/design and a superb ost. It jsut doesnt make sense.

I think to this day it still has the highest budget of any anime, counting in inflation of course.

>best parts
The first season has a 90s feel. I couldnt get past G, it just grinds and grinds.

I don't know some of the older ones. But everything studio4C on there is great, at least visually. Some stuff is more subjective, but definitely stands out in some way, mostly the pacing which isn't run of the mill (Nasu, 3-gatsu no Lion), and some are absolute classics (stop stop hibari-kun, sexy commando Gaiden).

I never payed much attention, but now that you mentioned it, yeah it was absolute waste of a great villain character though I loathed his voice.

And to make it more stupid his scar disappeared in her female form, not to mention it was later shown that "females can pilot too, so they really had no reason for muh sex changing fate experiment.

>though the whole show started falling apart once it began using timeskips
Indeed, the regular comfy pace became rushed.

>if that was planned from the beginning or not.
He was voiced by a female so I guess it was.

Watching Hokuto no Ken now. It's not good at all. Anime can't really decide how Kenshiro looks like, different angles giving different person, body complexion not consistent whatsoever.

>Better character designs
>Less disgusting CGI shit
>No "moeblobs doing cute things" retarded shit tailored for desperate virgins
>Tasteful, classier color palette, no unrestrained overly-bright, cheap looking tacky digital painted garbage

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*I never payed much attention to it

Meanwhile in reality

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>>No "moeblobs doing cute things" retarded shit tailored for desperate virgins
Besides this, everything else hold true.

>C-c-cute little girl characters existing in old shows aimed at little girls totally means they had one thousand moeshit CGDCT slice of life shows just like now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH DON'T BLAME US MOETARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MOE DID NOTHING WRONG!!!!!!!!!! MUH WAIFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lmao at moefags always being so fucking desperate to deflect any kind of criticism

Anime's color pallete was at its brightest in the 90s, unironically

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>Cyber Team in Akihabara
>aimed at little girls
Retard

Fuck off Yea Forums

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It's technically a shojo show aimed at girls, you desperate fag.

No it isn't. It's a satire on magical girl anime aimed at otaku. No shoujo would be filled with that much mindless fanservice.

One thing for me is that there were significantly less shows per season, so I tend not to view the annoying trends from other decades as prevalent as the ones that piss me off now due to being lower in volume. 5 Gundam ripoffs are more digestible than a couple dozen SAO derivatives

>Huuurr my retarded cherrypicked example actually proves shit

That's like saying Pretty Sammy's aimed at little girls

I personally like the style of 80s/90s Anime movies and OVAs. I kind of miss when anime tried to shock you with gore, sex and violence. There's still good anime but it doesn't feel as fresh to me. Maybe it's just nostalgia.

>Sailor Moon
Sailor Moon is comfy

>Pretty Sammy
Now I want to watch it again
youtube.com/watch?v=rddxuo7tSI8

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Pretty Sammy TV is underrated. It's a lot like early Nanoha.

Remember the late 90s when Japanese magazines and imageboards actually called Ruri the queen of moe?

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Before Yuribait was injected into everything?

>He was voiced by a female so I guess it was.
That's not unusual in old anime.

messageboards*

based

She's still my queen

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old=bad
is the same as
new=bad

>thinking digital and 3DCG animation looks good
Please see an optometrist

If I wanted to dump 50 hours into what's mostly side content I'd play a JRPG, not watch anime.

Plotfag

Watch them and find out!

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Older anime is more likely to appeal to my taste in terms of production. The colors, character designs, backgrounds, visual direction (which has changed with digital + CG animation), effects work, and OST all contribute to what I tend to enjoy in an anime. It’s also what the productions tend to LACK, CG, filters over everything, shitty backgrounds and garish color.

In terms of subject matter, more anime from before the “Net Otaku” takeover in 2002~ tends to be my style. Though I will say I prefer the 00’s “Akihabara” aesthetic over what we have now, which is becoming more stale and normalfag. Nostalgia has nothing to do with it, I became an anime fan in the mid 00’s and did not grow up with anime as a child, I simply prefer (on average) a production from the 70’s to 2000 than something from the past 20 years.

The upsides I will give modern anime: There is so much you will never ever run out and if sakuga is your game anime has upped that a ridiculous amount on average.

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>no isekai shit
yeah it was much better

this is true

but also, consider that early anime was trying to become it's own adult entertainment genre while there was no groundwork for shit that you see in today's culture.

the type of regurgitated themes and concepts you see in recent years would never be able to propel animated shows to the status previous anime did.

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They're not noseless, they have doll heads. Dolls only have nose at specific perspectives.

old anime was kino, and had various styles and good shading. most of them are actually good its just that newfags are ironic about everything and hate everything.

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Old anime had more diversity™️. Now only the same kind of get greenlit because nobody wants to take risks anymore and the few passion projects that still exist usually tank.

*shows

Compare AMV Hell 3 and AMV Hell 4

It will show anime was better before the mid-2000's

50% of the series in the 70s and 80s seem to be sci-fi so it's hard to see that as taking risks either.

>dude why arent these unprofitable projects taking risks?
is there even a way to make anime cheaper and more effecient so that it can be profitable enough for creativity?

but sci-fi is cool and each of them were different in their own way

A scifi space battle takes more effort to animate than 2 cute girls sitting around doing nothing but talking.

>no isekai shit
Back in the 90s when he had REAL anime about generic high-school self-inserts who get sent to a fantasy world with special powers and gains a harem

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I think anime will only get more expensive.

would making an anime completely 3D make it any cheaper?

No

It didn't make western animation cheaper, so it most certainly won't make anime cheaper either.

>They're not noseless, they have doll heads
t. Dollfie Dream fag

Anime was more varied back then. You had more studios willing to spend money on financially risky projects and the results were at least interesting and unique regardless of quality. You can thank the economic crash of the mid-90's for studios deciding to take the safer and bland route more often.

Basically what I'm saying is that something like GoShogun: The Time Etranger would not get made today.

It was different, some people prefer how it was, thus “better”.

I will say that the OVA market gave us some series with VERY high production values, and I agree with the idea that modern anime is “incestuous” in that it’s all inspired by other anime and not outside mediums, and this leads to less grounded works, which I dislike overall. I also miss light table effects.

At the same time though, modern animators are doing wonderful things with contrast and clean colors that are impossible on cells. Both are good, but I wish certain niches weren’t going unfilled.

The effort to animate doesn't directly correlate with how interesting a series is.
I'd most likely find 2 girls talking more interesting than space battles anyway.

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Usually but not necessarily. If you put Kyoani's quality where they overanimate the crap out of cute girls sitting around drinking tea against your average scifi space battle the space battle was probably easier to animate.
Now obviously you have those insane sakuga moments once every 5-6 episodes where they clearly spent most of their budget but the episodic nature of those old shows often meant you'd have quite a few episodes done noticeably cheaper. When your battles become just some speed lines and lasers with static shots of ships and faces it's not exactly high effort.

100% agree, this is what I think of when people mention crowd scenes

Most old anime wouldn't get made today. But at the same time every small ln and manga gets an adaption theses days.

I barely watch modern anime now because my specific niches aren't being catered to. If studios would just throw me a bone, I'd be happy.

The use of CG for a lot of background art also really detracts from the aesthetics, which is something that's hard to adjust to when you really like the aesthetics of cel anime.

I’m a big fan of non-comedy fantasy and cyberpunk so I feel your feeling deeply

But we're getting fewer unique manga as well, since it's also being infected by the incestuous and self-referential nature of modern anime.

Arguably the most interesting development in the medium today is that other Asian countries like China and Korea are starting to make their own anime. It's still in it's infancy, but that might bring something fresh in future.

Korean manga is horrible though.

Because it's Toei animation. They were always putting out a ton of anime series, week to week. Don't expect quality animation.

I'm a historical anime fan, so it's just as bad maybe worse. Strange how cyberpunk basically completely died when it was so common in the 80's.

Based Nadesibros.
tfw never getting the 2nd and 3rd movies, shit sucks.

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What old historical anime did you enjoy? Been looking for that sort of thing recently and come up basically empty.

Almost no "masterpieces" in that chart
Mind Game is a classic movie
3-gatsu no Lion is a great recent show
Some other interesting watches included are Noiseman, Dragon's Heaven, Di Gi Charat, California Crisis, Metropolis, Blazing Transfer Student
Most of the remaining titles I've seen are bad.

>Implying Kishin or Mellowlink are bad

There actually aren't that many historical anime going by the traditional definition of historical fiction (that being a story starring real historical figures based on real events). Obviously you have some really famous examples of true historical anime like RoV, but for the most part most "historical" anime has the historical setting be completely incidental to what's happening. I will say that there's some interesting experimental stuff set in historical settings like Dagger of Kamui and Belladonna of Sadness though.

People often seem to make the mistake of looking at everything that aired between 1980 and 2000, then compare all those shows to the current season and act surprised that they find more great shows in a period of 20 years than 3 months.

Hokuto no Ken is fucking trash. You could have lurked a bit and known that only the manga and the movie are worth your time.

But 2000s and 2010s is 20 years too.

Some people on Yea Forums lose perspective after being bombarded with thread after thread about the worst bottom of the barrel trash imaginable, day after day. If I didn't try most shows myself and watched only what I liked, and instead went with what is popular on Yea Forums's catalog, I'd try to find refuge in old shows too.

/thread

Yep,last cel animation and it bankrupted the studio.

don't /thread yourself

Creativity died with the budget

Sometimes low budget makes creative and alot of creative types show they can't handle it when they suddenly get unlimited budget to do whatever but yeah no funding for anything risky really did hurt the quality overall.

*ahem

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>literally blows anything from Akira, Patlabor 2 or Honneamise out of the water
Being this delusional

The movements are nowhere near as fluid ad previously mentioned, they're sharp and stiff.

This is still way more impressive

That's clearly not cel animation

?

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Do you also think that with old disney movies?

1. There are many different eras of "old old anime"
2. At some points, yes, the anime industry was healthier in terms of artistic quality than it is today

You only need to watch Boku no pico to post here

'nuff said

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soul vs soulless

This is actually the best argument I’ve ever seen on the subject

Peaks of Animation

America
>1940s-1950s
Japan
>1980s-1990s

This is a simple fact.

Regardless of whether your prefer old anime or new anime, I think we can all agree that the industry took a huge dump in the early 2000s

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My ants really enjoy this image!

I would add 1990's-2005 for America

>I would add 1990's-2005 for America
Dumb fucking zoomer.

It's a shit "argument" though. Older anime frequently use high-detail stills with multi-tone shading, while any time the characters are actually animated, they look like utter crap, or at the very least are barely, if ever, shaded. Last thing I watched which abused this was Gundam X.

I agree. Transition from older analog techs to new digital technology, terrible use of new technologies made most early 2000s stuff utter garbage.

post this on Yea Forums right now

japan ruined elves

50 hours in photoshop

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>1990's
>zoomer
Ok retard

I did few times

>while any time the characters are actually animated, they look like utter crap, or at the very least are barely, if ever, shaded.
Wrong. Old animation, on average, has more detail, better art and better animation.

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>bullshit nostalgic view of 1990s-2005 animation that no boomer would have
You stupid fucking zoomer fuck I'll fuck your eyeballs

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as a rule of thumb, if you have to ask, the answer is blinded by nostalgia

I don't recognize anything on the left.

>still claiming zoomer is 90's
Fuck off retard

calm down user

>got exposed so you're doubling down on bullshit that never happened
UGH THESE EYEBALLS ARE SO SQUISHY

These threads always amuse because every time, without fail, that one rabid VEGgot keeps trying to argue that nu anime is superior to 40 years of older anime. His posts are the same every time.

It's disturbing how infatuated people are with old anime. Take this screenshot for example; you can quite clearly see how they're on two different layers, instead of it being a seamless connection. This is an issue you won't see in modern anime thanks to technology's assistance, so it won't rip you out of the show.

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Or go the Monogatari route and don't show random people at all.

>>got exposed
90's isn't zoomer you fucking moron and muh nostalgia can be said on anything.

based

>you can quite clearly see how they're on two different layers, instead of it being a seamless connection
So you can see she isn't fused with the tree? How is that a bad thing?

MASTERPIECE OF ANIMATION OLD ANIME CAN SUCK RAW EGGS

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I like the opening and endings more.

Fast pacing doesn't equal good moron.

Take for example how despite her harsh and heavy hitting, the dude just gently collapse meaning the impact isn't done well.

I was there for this meme, good times.

This is why kyoani burned down.

See, it's because of plebs like you who don't know what you're talking about that we have a problem in the first place. Shoo shoo, scoodaloo.

Nice pic for ants, fag

Anymore verbal puke to add?

I'm actually watching Carol right now and I think I blinked or something because one moment she was in her living room and the next the show has turned into some musical isekai.

yall fucking idiots can't deny that old Anime had its own charm

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It was heavily-detailed, full of shading, and had "texture" and errors.

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>Board where 90%+ of the threads are about anime and manga that are airing/still in print
>"You should watch these finished series' before posting"

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Yes to both questions

lol that's still just 2 tone shading with a gradient on the hair user.

Her skin has five tones
The clothes are two tone
The hair is a gradient with highlights
Fairly impressive for modern anime

Haven't seen anything comparable to 3x3 eyes. That genre itself is pretty much dead. Same with Guyver.

Modern anime needs more OVA/OAV anime, that's where most of the impressive retro anime shots come from.

>are people just blinded by nostalgia?
Correct.

That just straight up isn’t true m8. It’s happened from time to time that detail was traded for framerate, sure. See Crystania or Green Legend Ran. But it’s pretty far from the norm, and at the end of the day the modern elf has shit character design in comparison, far beyond what simply makes her easier to animate.

Shitty digital art is easy to churn out and be passable enough for a final product. Same reason why most cgi in movies is so hated. No one takes the time to put out the best product you could make in the medium given

I blame the influx of new inexperience artists for most of the poorer quality of digital than digital itself.

The only one hundred percent true fact is that Toei churns out garbage now, ten years ago, twenty years ago, thirty years ago, forty years ago, ten thousand years ago.

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Japan has NEVER and WILL NEVER learn how to draw noses.

It was a fucking crapshoot back then, and a few times they got lucky and stumbled upon a good way to draw them, but it was only for a specific angle, and by the time they needed it again, they'd already forget how to draw it.

And just when you think they finally wised up and stopped trying, something like Okaasan online comes up and fucks up noses all over again.

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lol that hag looks constipated

youtube.com/watch?v=8mQScjlXbBE

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The 2040s is going to be the decade that anime gets better again.

is that when K-on will be continued?

They seemed to know how to draw objects and backgrounds better in the 80s/90s. There used to be a lot of animators with drafting backgrounds.

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good anime came out back then, so did bad anime
good anime comes out now, so does bad anime.
its a a matter of preference i guess, but if you refuse to watch new anime you are a faggot, just like if you refuse to watch old anime

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source?

This guy gets it.

It ignores that not all decades of anime is equal in quality, that some decades have much better quality anime than others, and the overall quality of a medium can and will decline, and preferring one decade over another can't change that.

>not all decades of anime is equal in quality
Not really, it stays the same as any other medium, 90% sucks, the only difference is which catters more to YOUR shit taste user, learn to accept the fact your taste is shit and you'll live a happier life.

>"It ignores that not all decades of anime is equal in quality"
>good anime came out back then, so did bad anime
>good anime comes out now, so does bad anime.
Did you even read what that guy wrote?

Its more like 40% of everything is crap, 50% is decent, and 10% is exceptional

That's where your shit taste kicks in, you just learn to tolerate the shitty parts because you like the rest so much

The issue with muh old animu was better retards is that they either don't even like anime because they only watched the curated 10% most people would like, my grandpa would like bebop for fuck's sake, and believe all old anime was like that
Or because their shit taste was being cattered by the 80s and now they either autistically refuse to accept new stuff for reasons, or are just not being cattered to.

Bubblegum Crisis 2033 OVA 6 or something like that.

Actually, that brings up something of a point I'd like to make: While shows like are lauded for their quality, depth of detail, and bold and interesting plots I think it is disingenuous to assert that anime of that time period couldn't also be soulless trash. Plenty of folks in this thread have already said as much, but the follow up Bubblegum CRASH is literally the most soulless cash-grab of a production I have ever seen, it is hollow, unoriginal, and outright boring compared to 2033.

It's all a matter of money, direction, and focus at the end of the day, and Japan is without a doubt still able to produce anime that is astoundingly beautiful. Somehow we just need to figure out how to increase budgets and sales for the industry, probably with trying to grow sales in foreign markets and doing localization prior to even the Japanese release so that it can be a world wide event thus unifying the marketing push.

One way to increase the budget is for studios to make more mainstream anime, but a majority of anime fans are abhorrent to this idea.

Yeah, it's not like you have a medium full of moving pieces and i credibly complex in the way it relates to sales of merchandise and physical media, unique in the world in the way it's consumed.

In order to make anime "mainstream" intentionally you'd have to tear it appart, whenever it becomes mainstream it's by accident, everyone that tries to force it (remember dandy? Or just look at netflix) Faceplants like a retard

>Uri in Blue
I wish user, I wish.

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Yes and 3 months are 3 months. When you compare 20 years with 3 months you are comparing 20 years with 3 months.
No matter what other duration of time exists outside of that comparison.

Stuttering fool.

How is it a problem with the nose and not a problem with the position of the mouth?

FPBP!!!!!!!!

>No Saint Seiya
>No City Hunter
>No Ruroni Kenshin
>No Kaiji
My fucking god is this list trash.

Sales are already steadily increasing for years but that doesn't mean shit for the animation studios who always only get a small part of it anyway and it also didn't improve quality.

There was a point in time where we had original themes and new technologies.

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In your fucking dreams zoomer with no critical thought.