Why wasn't this series about Deku proving everyone wrong and that he COULD become a hero without a quirk, simply by standing up to quirkless human discrimination and preventing domestic violence wrought from quirk marriages?
He could save lives and promote traditional family values by preventing discrimination-wrought violence and in extreme cases suicides caused thereof.
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Don't bother. No matter what MHA fan you ask they'll never bother to explain why Deku never worked out like Eraserhead did to become superhuman.
too much effort to write something like that
That sounds boring as fuck why would boys want to read that?
They tried that in the early episodes, he basically didn't use powers and relied on being clever.
What do you mean they don't explain? The explanation is he's a wimp and an idiot. It took him a while to figure out he could kick.
>I wish this show were about this instead of what it is now
Yeah and I wish to get laid. Life isn’t perfect lad
That was probably Hori's theme in the One Shot, but it was probably denied by Editors because most kids want to read manga as a power fantasy, and a powerless, smart hero wouldn't fulfill that desire.
The mistake was keeping so much from the One Shot scenario for the story, while changing the overall plot. Which means that Deku is proven wrong about his initial beliefs in the starting chapters, while Bakugo is proven right.
Also Hori just can't write smart characters. The Gentle fight is the only one in 250 chapters where I would say anybody did anything smart. Once.
>Which means that Deku is proven wrong about his initial beliefs in the starting chapters, while Bakugo is proven right.
I gotta disagree with this, honestly. Even if he denies it due to All Might coming in to save both him and Bakugou from the slime monster. Deku, in that moment was a great hero that inspired others and tried to save someone with a smile that he wanted to be and everyone told him he couldn't. That act of being heroic despite not having a hero's power is exactly why All Might was inspired to push himself despite the danger to his health because he saw his former powerless self in him. Without knowing it, the powerless Deku proved All Might and Bakugou wrong, not for personal reasons like fulfilling his childhood dream, but to genuinely save someone and even if it was that tiny, isolated incident I still feel it counts for something. Maybe not a whole lot but something.
Isn't that what Black Clover does?
because Shonen is garbage
it's played out, it's boring and it's aimed at shonentards. And i mean THOSE shonentards, the kind that watch JoJo and say it's anime for men.
Having to write a story about a quirkless guy means you can't have the guy say stupid shit like DESTROIT SMASHUUUU and do the cool move, then you lose the interest of all of Shonentards because that's what they want to see
>Why wasn't this series about Deku proving everyone wrong and that he COULD become a hero without a quirk, simply by standing up to quirkless human discrimination and preventing domestic violence wrought from quirk marriages?
Because every fucking anime nowadays has to be a dumb superhero isekai.
It'd be somewhat reasonable if the BNHA world was actually one in which people with broken physical augmentation abilities dominated combat and coming to terms with genetics being an insurmountable obstacle was a well-explored theme, but Horikoshi himself introduced several characters able to have professional careers or become serious threats with mostly martial arts alone. It fucking baffles me to this day how Stain was able to keep a roided muscleman, someone with literal super speed, and Todoroki shooting fire and ice lasers at bay with only a fucking knife and his skills.
I just wanted a story of an amatuer dorky vigilante honing his skills on the streets, stopping crime after crime, to become professional hero. Not just Naruto with the cast wearing more colorful and wacky attire.
Is the spinoff more along those lines?
Because it is a mindless shounen for brainlets.
>Is the spinoff more along those lines?
Kind of. Spinoff has a main character with an extremely weak/underwhelming power learning how to be an effective neighborhood-level vigilante. His mentor is a quirkless old man who goes around beating the shit out of villains with brass knuckles.
UNIIIITEDO
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SMAAAAAAAAAAASH
I dont care you cant become a superhero without a quirk because of villains like fucking nomu, deku without a quirk would have been bodied the first moment he saw a low level villain
Nah, Asta gets a magic book too but apparently it doesn't count because he worked really hard for it despite it coincidentally happening and had that not happened he wouldn't be able to compete in the magic world either.
Knuckleduster have no quirks.
Did he fight a Nomu?
>Who is Stain
no quirks you say?
stain has a 1v1 quirk you fucking faggot
>If you can't beat the thing that was literally designed to beat the strongest hero, you can't be a hero.
Stain's quirk does nothing for him until he's already hurt his opponent with his own skill/luck. Also; you said Nomu specifically, and Stain bisected a Nomu entirely on his own. Ball's in your court.
my point still stands deku is going to need every bit of power considering those nomu were still not as good as we are led to believe
Because the editor said that it was a bad idea.
The original Deku was going to be some sort of Batman in a superpowers world
batman did it just fine
He won't be able to lift up his swords with lanklet arms
Back to FF/Ao3 for you
Imagine copy-pasting Superman instead of Batman, what a fucking mistake.
>You need to be strong to beat a nomu
Beast of a point here my man.
Also Stain fight with skills and physicality alone, with a more strategic approach and Mei gadget, you can be a damn good hero.
A lot of you like to ignore the fact that eraserhead and stain both have quirks that even the odds and then use that window of opportunity to attack, they are not quirkless, they use their powers in an advantageus form using surprise attacks and hit and run tactics, they are really bad examples of your "why couldnt deku become a quirkless hero?"
>Stain has a quirk that evens the odds
But he literally doesn't. Until Stain has already hurt you he is *literally* quirkless.
But after that, he does have an advantage with his quirk. He's still not quirkless. Having to get in a first attack is his only real disadvantage, and that's migrated by sneak attacks.
>and a powerless, smart hero wouldn't fulfill that desire.
You're wrong because literally Dr. fucking Stone right now hell people read that shit even in the west (see Batman, Ironman etc.)
The fact he needs to get that first attack in all on his own is enough proof though. Something that can be done once can be done multiple times.
Well Darker Than Black did that and worked well enough so the excuse it couldn't is already flawed.
The sales show you Dr. Stone doesn't fulfill that desire for Jump's audience
he was severely bullied
But in stain's case, he only has to get that first attack in to finish the fight, and such attack can be as simple as a scratch to win, something very different from a OHKO, besides, anyone fighting stain 1v1 is at a disadvantage unless they have a long range quirk, because when trading blows, stain needs just one hit to practically win
All I'm seeing here is excuses. If you can hurt someone once, you can hurt someone twice, thrice and so on. Thus, the statement that "you cannot" be a hero without a quirk is obviously false. What you are arguing is "it's harder" which is obvious, but its not impossible.
>long range
No, Stain's real hard counter is defense. Someone like Kirishima would be Stain's greatest counter by far.
because the writer isn't talented enough to pull it off
Sure you can nick someone 3 or 5 times, but papercuts are not going to kill you unless you have a superpower that makes each cut a death sentence, besides, stain won battles not by martial prowess, but because of his quirk, his battle style was built around his power, he would have won little to no battles without his quirk, notice how most of his attacks were fleshwounds that would have posed no threats if not for his quirk
>Notice how most of his wounds are small wounds
Notice how this is a children's manga and the moment he fought something "not human" he was suddenly able to cut it in half? Gee user, this sure is a tough puzzle. Why are you sucking the author's dick so hard when even you don't believe what you're saying?
>but papercuts are not going to kill you unless you have a superpower that makes each cut a death sentence
Or poison. Poison would also make each cut a death sentence.
He didnt suddenly cut it in half, he had to use his very own, unique and very special SUPERPOWER to stop it and get a hit on an eye, a very specific and vulnerable part of most living beings. But sure dude keep thinking that the power of believing in yourself is gonna help you on anything outside a street brawl in a universe were people lift trucks with a thought.
Im not sure if using poison is a very heroic thing to do?
The amount of excuses you're making here makes me wonder, seriously, if you're a shill. Would it even matter if I listed the other dozen or so powers that are mostly hard carried by the hero's body and not their powers? I sort of doubt it seeing what you've shown here, and is a large part of why I don't bother coming to these threads much.
Kinda impressive how you just decide to forget that all those heroes have indeed powers that can be used in battle in one way or another. hard work is not the isue, thats kinda the whole point of the story, but every character that represents this is shown to work in a way that polishes their quirk, but sure, show me a single hero from the main story that won not because of their quirk but despite of it, just one whose power was not the main reason they did something meaningful
because then it would be this show: youtube.com
Nomu isn't the fucking standard for villain power levels
He not be able win any fight with magic knight without anti magic
Kinda impressive that you know exactly what heroes I'm talking about before I even say them, like I thought, it literally doesn't matter what I say, you'll line up an excuse anyways.
>Something that can be done once can be done multiple times.
There's a differencs between nicking someone from a sneak attack and beating them in a full-on fight when they're aware of you.
I like the OFA route rather than going the Lil' Brudder route which is just a different overdone cliche and slightly changes the message to "Deku has to tear down the system because it doesn't work for him" rather than "Deku has to tear down the system because even though he can thrive he can see it's too flawed to really work" which he is slowly doing.
What's the difference between Stain and an equally skilled swordsman with poisoned blades? And Eraser can still fight effectively against mutant types which how quietly quirk is useless against
Quirkless hero >>> cheated genetic Quirk lucky asspull hero
SEVEN
Are you sure quirkless can win fight todorodi and endevour useless quirk
Mx0 still makes me sad.
>Who are the pussy cat dolls
What's her face wins fights with nothing but teasing an opponent from inside their head and her body.
>Who is Mei
People can make plenty of gadgets that would allow you to be a hero if you wanted to be, All Might was just trying to have Deku not get hurt, you're not supposed to take his words this literally.
Batman >>>>>>>> o my seven asspull quirk
Deku isn't trying to tear down any system. He doesn't care about other quirkless people cause he already got his
>it's another "why isn't deku batman" thread
With the right weapons, yes
Whats that? There are no heroes without superpowers? Shame
heh. pretty based for a virgin
In English this time.
And he wouldn't be able to use anti magic if he wasn't so ripped.
When opportunity knocked for Asta, he had his bags packed and was ready to go.
When opportunity knocked for Deku, he made opportunity wait at the door while he pushed his trash under the furniture and sprayed air freshener to make it seem like he has his shit together.
Then why in capeshit no normal human can kill superman
Absolute control of his quirk which has immediate total paralysis.
>And Eraser can still fight effectively against mutant types which how quietly quirk is useless against
With gear and years of training.
You're absolutely right in that a quirkless person could probably be a hero if they got the training the point of the comic is most of society is actively discouraged from even seeking to find their potential and the ultimate ill effect that's having on society.
What i mean he nothing without anti magic
>The author who has his characters say "you can't be a hero without a quirk" doesn't shoot himself in the foot directly by having heros with no quirks, only heroes with quirks so bad they might as well not have them
I'm honestly shocked you're smugly stooping this low, as to try and claim this as a victory.
Maybe these threads wouldn't be so common if the author wasn't tripping over his (admittedly minor) theme so hard. It's almost as bad as Naruto's ideal clash with Neiji.
Daily reminder that Stain ruined the show. Any notion of a well written interesting series got completely destroyed when Shitstain was introduced.
This is a guy who kills heroes, and only heroes, because he doesn't like that people who have the job title of a hero get paid money and like fame. Even the ones who don't care about fame and money, he kills, because he just assumes they want only fame and money.
But get this, Stain thinks All Might is the only hero in the world who is a true hero. This guy believes that there isn't any real hero in the world, there isn't a single heroic doctor, not a single heroic firefighter, not a single heroic cop, no, the only real hero in the entire world is All Might, a hero who only cares about being the most popular hero in the world because the entire world revolves around him and if he stops being the most popular hero then the world will end. All Might is the most vain hero of them all, and Stain worships him. Then Stain meets Deku, another person who only cares about fame, and he decides that Deku is the second real hero.
Then Stain saves Deku because ''hurr he is da true hero'' and gives a stare to some of the top heroes which paralyzes them in fear. Woah, look how badass Stain is, he can scare heroes just by looking at them. So fucking badass.
And now there's a fucking cult of villains centered around Stain, people who like him for no reason and are now just doing crime because they ''agree with Stain's message,'' as if Stain had any. A cult centered around a guy who killed a few heroes because of semantics. Guy literally killed people because their job title is ''hero'' and he doesn't believe the word ''hero'' is the right label for them.
This arc was so shit that there was no coming back, and it only got worse.
user's point is ultimately, Asta worked really hard in hopes that it'd make up for his lack of magic ability and while it never could, it coincidentally ended up being the key to wielding his unlocked magic powers.
While Deku didn't and it coincidentally would've helped him with his new superpowers.
Nope asta still have ki he can win fight with magic knight
Why not go for a stab then?
Going by irl rules, poison isn't that effective in fights. There's some time before succumbing to poison, and any reasonably popular hero could afford treatment. Stain's paralysis is instant and guarantees he kills you in a 1v1.
>"H-hey, super-powered domestic abuser, you'd, uh, b-better stop that!"
>Quirkless Deku gets pasted because a quirkless wimp can't fight on even footing with anybody with a quirk less shitty than "I can stretch my eyeballs out a bit."
there's a Batma- er.. Wildcat like character who had his quirl stolen or something and became a vigilante similar to the aforementioned. He was aight.
>Going by irl rules, poison isn't that effective in fights.
You what? You're just going to sit here and tell me that there are no poisons, none at all, that work in a timely manner?
>Timely
Not as timely as literally immediately at any moment you like.
>any reasonably popular hero could afford treatment
This takes place in Japan, not America
>fights with nothing but teasing an opponent from inside their head
Oh shit, its almost as if she used her superpowers to give herself an advantage that she wouldnt have otherwise, besides pretty sure she worked alongside her team to cover weaknesses and acted mostly as support
>Mei can make plenty of gadgets that would allow you to be a hero
This on the other hand, I guess you are right? Gadgets are mostly shown to be used to compliment ones quirk, but still, I guess, were her magnifying powers necessary to make the gadgets in the first place? I dont remember, still i stand corrected on this.
>some murderhobo can afford a million dollar vial of venom from the deepest parts of the amazon
Anti magic its why making him strong not training alone yes that the factor for use the sword but not the power itself where cancel any magic (traning + anti magic = asta strong magic knight, training - anti magic = useless magic knight)
Compared to just shooting someone or any of the millions of other more effective weapons? No, there really aren't Poison and toxins are garbage if you're looking for actual combat effective tools, they're only good for putting in food or sounding cool while being slow and ineffective.
Isn’t that what he did in the first chapter? Stood up to the slime guy despite having no quirk.
You kidding right? Aizawa workout before he enter UA? What a joke
That fake he already know all might will gift him ofa
>teasing in an opponent's head
>an advantage
Now that is a fucking reach. It worked the one time we saw her. Are you really, REALLY, going to just pretend that this is enough of an excuse that the board or whoever the fuck is overlooking this would say "yup, you're not quirkless, that's enough to keep you safe from villains, go on out there busty lady, and fight crime, nothing bad could come from this decision I'm sure!"
How else would he have gotten in?
All his quirk does is put him on a level playing field with the enemy.
If he's not physically strong, then it's useless.
If I was a making it my mission to kill superheroes for a living I wouldn't use poisoned blades I'd use a high powered sniper rifle
Different test are you sure not speedread
It why capeshit are garbage they don't even think use firearms and nuclear
>It's not instant so it's useless
This is what I like to call "backtracking".
>You could just shoot him
I mean sure, but you really don't know who the fuck you're dealing with from day to day. Say it's some sort of water man, or a rubber man, or whatever, having some poison on hand to deal with the people you can't shoot wouldn't be a terrible idea. And it's pretty retarded to try and say "in real life poisons don't work" when there are literally scores and scores of animals that work entirely on the principle of poisoning shit.
But he can afford a workout regime that gives him far better physical stats than 99.9% of heroes.
batman is a rich genius, being super smart is also a gift. He's not some average joe.
Ironman say hello
If he wanted to help people so badly why didn't he be a cop?
Reminder batman is a rich man, iron man too. Deku is just a middle class person and I doubt that UA wants to invest in a quirkless
Watch the first ironman movie he create the suit from cave
Is the same shit user
This would run into the same problem a Dragon Ball with only Kaioken or Naruto with Rock Lee as the protagonist would also face. Ultimately, these stories are created by an author, and if they say that this character could overpower these overwhelming odds according to whatever bullshit they come up with, it happens. It's cases like this where Batman's powers vary wildly in terms of intelligence, preparedness, and sanity. It's how Deathstroke kills Flash in spite of the latter being able to outrun Death itself. It wouldn't be as fun to read as you'd think it would be.
>could have been a series about human ingenuity and perseverance overcoming inhuman strength and genetics
>instead became a naruto-tier shounen about quite possibly the most overpowered Gary Stu in modern anime
>backtracking
You're talking to two people.
>sorry i'm not Tony Stark
Are you really comparing a 15-year-old child with a middle-aged adult? are you retard or what?
Good, sounds like a premise that'd get tired pretty fast.
Again, she was mostly a support type, that fought alongside a team, and used her quirk to distract an enemy to get a hit in once, she didnt even defeated the gecko boy, but whatevs man.
Bait
Great analogy
Sounds like a series the shonen jump love to axe
BASED
But Deku didn't try to make it seem like he had his shit together, he just worked really hard to get his shit together when presented with a chance.
>Are you really comparing a 15-year-old child with a middle-aged adult?
Not him but yes
>Smaaaaash got repetitive so we got O MY SEVEN QUIRKS
Black Clover greatness > Boring shit Academia
Works better than Deku just asspulls some new store bought gadget
>BASED
And if you wanted to kill capes and dont get caught, leave traces everywhere and alert thousands of people around you with every single shot,, what would you use?
You tell me everyone even those user here can create an ark reactor just because you said? Every human being have diference strenght and weakness you know
I don't care? The argument was "you can't be a hero because you're quirkless" which was interpreted as "you can't be a hero because you aren't strong enough" which is why people point at people like Stain and Eraserhead. Pointing at her is literally the same shit, she was allowed to be a hero, clearly it's not a big deal. I could go on and on, we have heroes in the class who have such stunning powers as "I have a tail I guess" and "Literally a normal girl, but invisible". Shit, one of the most OP powers almost got cut from UA, the mind controlling guy, just because it didn't work on robots, it's almost like you're allowed to admit the series has flaws and not everything the heroes say is gospel or something?
Nope human are born equal you are just lazy
But I would have loved Deku coming up with new gadgets from the support class to help him out and give him new strategies.
Trust me. If so, they would complain worse because now it would seem like a Mary Sue
That's not what Mary Sue means.
The quickest way to show you're new to anime/manga is writing posts like these.
>the only way Deku could win with gadgets is if it's an asspull
It could be a known quantity in his arsenal. Remember that book where he wrote down how to come up with strategies for overcoming heroes quirks? In this scenario it would've actually been put too use instead of SMASHing his way through every obstacle
Thats not true and you know it. If so, the initial scoop of the manga with the quirks and that would be rubbish because everyone would have the same fucking quirk, because according to you we are all born the same
He's saying Mei is Tony Stark tier, which she isn't, but good enough to make really strong support gear.
user, why are you acting like that's a flaw in the series when that's part of the point.
Shinso had to take a different route because the entrance exam is stupidly standardized, that's the point of the series. Society is trying to quantify heroics, it's trying to standardize superpowers and it's their ultimate folly. They've turned away perfectly decent people who want to help, radicalized people they neglected, and totally fucked the priorities of people meant to be heroes.
But shinso better then deku
I'm impressed you managed to flip flop all the way around from "heroes have to have quirks!" to "It's ok for heroes to not have quirks!"
You have to understand user, the point here isn't to be right, it's to make sure his precious manga isn't being slighted. So long as he can come up with a way for it to be a good thing for the manga, or he sees something as an attack, whether it's true or not is irrelevant.
A silencer
But I've been saying that all thread.
Ironic.
Why are you still upset with this? Accept it once, isn't it the prototype of the protagonist you wanted? is not your batman? Isn't he your ironman? who sucks cares. If it's still there and it's successful thanks to the normies, fags and haters, it's your fault and you can't do anything about it. is there and those you wanted not
Do you want to try that post again?
Yes please
We critic's want my hero academia become better manga
Tell how
You are talking to different people buddy
By making Deku Batman
And the cash? The resource? The deku cave?
I don't think he can grasp that concept.
Then I'm glad the moron I was actually talking to manned up and admitted he couldn't support his argument, but the faggot who jumped in midway pretending to carry on the same argument is a retard and should kill himself.
Why does nobody ever bring up the fact that being a hero without a quirk is literally impossible due to administrative and legal reasons. It doesn’t matter how jacked you are
I would assume most people drop the manga far before that point.
I think the entire premise is shit, the vigilantes should have got the spotlight also mirio would make a 10000000% better MC
Like running into a slime monster that was consuming his friend? He didn't do shit aside from risking hislife for nothing - at the end heroes still took care of it themselves.
We could've gotten the best of both worlds. Deku should've never mastered OfA. At least not anytime soon. He should've kept breaking his body apart to show how many leagues above him All Might was, forcing him to come up with alternatives for combat encounters (like the early chapters), ramping up the tension and making the moments when he does go Smash that much more impactful
Better MC axed by the jump for sure
>that being a hero without a quirk is literally impossible due to administrative and legal reasons
Source? I've never heard of it being explicitly banned before
No. Deku had already broken his hands and arms plenty enough times that the impact was long gone. Continuing that for any longer would have been an absolutely terrible idea.
>Deku gets 6 new quirks because of some vague circumstances
>Shiggy gets money and power after one fight against some boomer cult that sought him out first
>entire manga is just heading for the conclusion of two useless characters fighting each other after success just falls into their laps
>meanwhile everything else is just there to fill space and trick you into thinking there's actual worldbuilding going on
Great deku vs shigaraki 2.0
It's impossible for a rule like that to exist, many heroes are just people who have situational abilities but need to use their own human strength for most cases
Would've been more interesting for Deku to actually contemplate if chasing his dream is really worth breaking himself for.
lmfao this shit killed me
And to OP, questions like this are seriously so dumb. I get where youre coming from but asking 'why isnt this series' questions are dumb because... well simply cause thats not what this story is about. Its like asking "why couldn't harry potter just be muggle who got accepted into wizarding school?' thats just not what this shits about
So why are you here? Are you masochist? I mean i don't like bc and don't bother about it because i don't care avout the series.If you don't want to be bitter, why should you see it? it's stupid just think about it
Not really. Because we both know what would happen, he'd contemplate it, people would tell him "you can't do it Deku! Don't do it, you'll really break them for good this time!" And he'd eventually break them because he needs to, and it would still all somehow work out, because he's not a side character, he's the MC, and you can't just have a crippled useless MC in a shonen jump manga.
>better explain: impossible
>And he'd eventually break them because he needs to, and it would still all somehow work out
The "I can kick!" Revelation would've come in real handy there
im sorry i have no idea what the fuck that was about
I just find it wierd when people ask this kinda shit. If you want a story like that then just write it or something
>spend years waiting for Deku quirk reveals
>each one turns out shitty and useless
Try Talentless Nana.
But it need criticsm
How is it impossible?
>Must have quirk
Seems like a pretty easy rule to write up.
I thought there was a line about recently UA laxed up on not allowing Quirkless to take the exam but that's apparently anime only.
Based AFO killing useless hero
>and you can't just have a crippled useless MC in a shonen jump manga
Every person has to go through the quirk administration process before applying for a hero school or taking a license test, we here about it briefly in a few of the earlier arcs in the series
People seem to forget that ‘Hero’ in this universe is a government-issued vocation that you have to do extensive training for. You cannot go through the proper channels without the right tools (a quirk). Vigilantism is still an option, but I can’t imagine Deku (especially chapter 1 deku) ever taking that route
What makes you think people have forgotten that? That has little to do with the logic being retarded.
Not that I'm not willing to take your word for it, but is there a explicit mention of quirkless being outright banned? I remember that Deku had to reregister his quirk details to hide the fact that he suddenly got OfA but I don't remember him being disallowed
He wasn't disallowed, because they changed the rule.
But like I said that's an anime line, in the comic he just says there's no precedence.
I also wonder what a quirkless person would even do at hero school? So much of the syllabus is based around quirk apprehension and quirk training
Same as the rest but just with their body.
Speedreader. There is more than just Hero courses at U.A. The whole curriculum doesn't just involve hero shit despite primarily being a hero school. A quirkless student would be moved to a support course instead.
Honestly the only way I can think of a quirkless person becoming a hero is
>Workout and study a shitload before applying for a school
>Apply for general studies class
>Pass tests against other people with lesser quirks
>Take the shinsou route through General studies into hero studies
>Aqcuire internship
>Finish school and become hero
However not only would you have to be lucky enough to be transferred, you’d also have to make a name for yourself incredibly early otherwise you would have no chance being hired at all
Yeah but then they wouldn’t be a hero, because the support and general studies courses do not take part in the provisional license exams. We’re talking about a hypothetical quirkless hero
bullshit i was born with several disabilities. i have a club foot and i can't stand for longer then an half an hour so even without "muh Genetics" i still started behind everyone
sorry, but user is still right
you are born just as equal as anyone. Some people have perfectly normal feet and are retarded asf. You seem to be quite capable mentally. Play to our strengths.Your 'quirks'
Because you moron that's not what mindless self-inserters want. They want maximum reward (getting OfA) with minimal work.
Reminder that the VERY FIRST sentence in this entire manga is “People are not born equal”
>chi
I dropped the show the instant they added the martial artist's version of magic
>oh no, feel bad for me, I don't have magic which everyone else does U_U
>I do have magic senses though
>and magic that destroys all magic and can any mages that doesn't lift
>b-but feel bad for me!!!!!
yea so they can elaborate later on in the story about how in fact every IS equal
Name one single time this has ever happened. People not being born equal is core to the story, and is a major part of some characters motivations
Because we already have Maito Guy. Green dress and everything
thats why i said later in the series
lets look at deku. He was not BORN into quirkhood, but in the end will become the number one. Everyone at birth is afforded the same opportunities if they follow their dreams etc
its a staple of shonen.
I'd rather look at the themes present in the actual manga than your retarded headcannon. Deku was not born equal and that is a fact
ITs not a headcanon retard, its a fair prediction
All mights ideals were that the number HAD to be a 'natural born' hero. Its already pretty clear that all mights ideals of what hero society should be will be changed with Deku inheriting AFO. Deku is proof that you dont have to be born with a quirk to become a great hero, and therefore immediately disproves the OPENING sentence of the entire manga
But he is gifted a quirk and not born with it. That's like saying someone was born rich if they win the lottery in their 20's
The point still stands.
you dont have to be born rich to be rich in life, its the same shit
But you are not born equal. This goes doubly so in a universe where you can be blessed with hyper-intelligence or immense power, or you could be born with a clothespin for a head
Even in real life, so many factors are determined through genes and birth. To say we are all born equal is such a gross oversimplification of life
Yes, anyone can get anywhere in life, but some people will have to work so much harder than others dependant on their birth. For some people, their birth will cut off any chances of them achieving their dreams. You think a kid with Down's Syndrome born in the middle of the amazon has the same chance at becoming the CEO of an extremely successful conglomerate as someone born to a wealthy family in the US?
dude just stop, nothing of what you said disproves anything. If anything it helps out my argument even more
This is a shonen, its supposed to be about working harder than everyone else and overcoming the odds
Your very sentence is contradictory. If everyone was born equal, then there would be no need to work harder or overcome any odds
Explain how that helps your argument at all. Looks like you got BTFO to me
Not him but that's just wrong. Being born equal doesn't equate to being born the same. People have different interest in life and that alone makes the world go round.
Remember that character who was born with a seemingly terrible quirk that didn't allow him to see or breath while he used it, yet managed to rise to the top of his class through hard work and determination?
Good thing the author decided to base the story around someone who's given 7 top-tier quirks for being on the right lace at the right time instead.
You sound like a faggot
No, i didnt you nerd. People are born with different abilities, yes, but are all equal in the fact that they can rise to prominence IF they so choose to. Im going back to the Deku argument cause he is the best example considering he is the main character. He was not born 'equal' to other kids by the fact that he was born with no quirk factor, but he WAS born equal in the fact that hes a living breathing human. He has the same opportunities to become a hero as the other people. The only difference being that his road will be a harder one. Sure it may have been luck/fate whatever the fuck you wanna call it for him to inherit OFA, but that doesnt change the fact that its the reality of the situation
>seemingly terrible quirk
>makes him literally invincible just by turning it on
But if two people both wanted to become a hero, and one had complete invulnerability and super strength and the other had stretchy fingers, then one would have a much easier time realising that goal than the other. By definition, that makes them not equal
As well as being pulled to the the center of the fucking earth and losing all his senses!
by definition suck my dick lmao
I dont even know why im giving you a (you), youre just arguing for the sake of arguing. Youre disregarding everything im saying about the equality being in the fact that everyone can aspire. Equality is not in ability, but in will. If youve read the manga youd have seen that overarching theme many times already, specifically the Yakuza arc
>turns off quirk
>appears back on surface because matter can't overlap, at worst appears somewhere dangerous where he can just activate it again
To be equal, both parties must have the same chance at realising what they want. That is simply not the case
Two people with the equal willpower but differing abilities will not be equal in their rise to glory
Also I'd like to point out that this is about being BORN equal. Your willpower and and aspirations are not determined by your birth
Why isn't you life about proving everyone wrong and that you CAN be a productive member of society?
The only answer is just that it simply isn't and that you won't be able to change that fact.
>see danger
>turn on quirk
>fall into ground
>can't see, hear, or breathe
>gravity continues to pull you down and possibly in another direction if you were moving before
>run out of breath
>deactivate quirk
>pop out of the ground naked, exposed, and disoriented
>hopefully you're right side up and don't end up doing a surprise headstand
>opponent sees a naked dumbass pop out of the ground trying to catch his breath and figure out where he is
>opponent attacks you while you're disoriented
>if you manage to react in time, repeat the process until you're not fast enough and the opponent does hit you
Not even joking as much as I love bnha it would’ve been exponentially better if this were the plot instead. Like he can still train under All Might (why not) but since he’s training under someone with the strongest Quirk (whatever it’d be changed to in this timeline), he’s able to hold his own. We know it’s possible from Aizawa and Mirio.
Because Deku is a garbage protagonist and Mirio should've gotten One for All instead. If he wasn't such a living waste of hair, he would've joined the Support department like Hatsume Mei (you probably don't even need a quirk to do that, her quirk is pretty garbage anyways) and he would've become a hero using her gadgets or gadgets that he developed himself, and become a hero that way.
spoilers when
>main theme of the manga clearly stated in the first page by the future MC narrator
>user retardedly thinks it's an ebin ruse for a boring underdog story
WTF batman doesn't do any of those things OP listed instead he uses his gadgets his money was able to build, his high intellect and his training in various fight styles which were made available through money. How would Deku have any of that except the intellect bit?
Because that would require having balls, giving effort and having a strong personality. MHA is a show about asspull convenience for daydreaming manbitches who don't want to work on themselves, who cry all day and think power and recognition will come to them if they have a good heart and are well adjusted.