Why is his superiority so controversial?
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Kekhan
>Jobs to a grasshopper
>Jobs to two androids in the future
>Flees to RST with daddy in present
>Jobs to Frieza forces and has to be put back into shape by his real dad (Piccolo)
>Has two dads
>Has his green dad killed
>Couldn't save his gf when he being cucked and she was being POLED by a Pole on steroids
>Gets weaker between the Cell games and the Buu saga
>Calls pink Bubblegum monster a retard, is immediately absorbed
>Refuses to fight in the U6 Tournament
>His daughter owns him
>Almost jobs to a furry
>Jobs to Krillin in recruitment arc
>Jobs to Gokek
>Team leader in ToP, because nobody cared
>Nobody listens to the 'team leader' except the Jobber force
>Jobs to a Lizzard and a Bunny
>Replaced by Uub as his dad's favorite
>Likes to eat ice cream when he's alone in the park
>Literally called the biggest disappointment of DBs by the fandom
Godnks
>Coolest introduction in the show (second to maybe Goku Black)
>No dads
>Killed the Androids
>Killed Cell
>Killed Buu
>Killed Dabura
>Killed Frieza
>Killed king Cold
>Killed dozens Frieza soldiers
>Informs this timeline of the androids (only reason it still exists)
>Saves Cuckhans dad by giving him medicine
>Unlocks new form
>SS2 on par with Goku's SS3
>First Saiyan Time patroller
>Tried to kill Goku, because he thought he was Black
>Saves weak Cuckhan from emotional damage by lying about the danger his world is in
>Has better waifu, Mirai Mai
>Waifu isn't useless like Videl (who is the literal spawn of Mexican Satan)
>Godnks kills a God not even vegito was able to defeat
>Chadnks used the sword of Hope, which neckbeards confuse with a 'Spirit sword' (which is Vegito's technique)
>Flees with his waifu to a good timeline (instead of staying with his dad whom he has already bonded with), because he wants to uphold the promise he made to Shithan
>Badass in every movie he's in
>Has cool ass sword with interesting backstory and its own movie
Jhizz (Angel) > SSB Gaygeta > SS Godly > SS Gaygeta > Gaygeta > UI Cucku > FP Shitren > Cuckhan (manga) > SS Kefla (anime) > SS Kefla (manga) > SS Kale > SSB Cucku > SSB Vagina > Golden Cuckza > Chadroid 17 > Goku Black > Zamasu > sHit > Cuckhan (anime) > SS Cuteifla > Spiccolo > Slutbot 18 > Cuckillin > Master Chadshi > Tien Shit Han > Yamcuck
The problem with manga Cuckhan is that his scaling makes no sense.
He defeated Kefla, who is a fusion of Kale who humiliated Golden Freeza, who is as strong as SSB Goku. And that's not the only problem. When we look at the power increase of a fusion, we see that fusions are increase the power more than simply "user + user.
This would make Cuckhan several times more powerful than Shitren.
Shitren has the power of four warriors (SSB Cucku + SSB Vagina + Chadroid 17 and Cuckza).
SS Kefla trumps this, because it multiplies Kale's power far beyond this.
So, yeah, manga Cuckhan is more powerful than Shitren and that's why manga Cuckhan is nothing more than Toyopaco's self-insert fanfiction
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The Count of Coping.
The Fakir of Fondling.
The Khan of Kneeling.
The Sultan of Seething
The Caliph of Conceding.
And the The Pharaoh of Pets
Enter Cuckren
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>Why is his superiority so controversial?
Because mentally ill Yea Forumsedditors were acquainted with DB trough videogames, they don't care for DB and they only like Cuckgeta because he's "edgy", Cuckgetafags should've been drowned at birth.
Enter KEKhan
LEAVE CHICHI TO ME DAD I'M ON MY WAY RIGHT NOW
Thank you!
Yep, this thread is based.
J-jobgetabros... what did the user mean by this?...
>goes to other thread
>half of the posts are samefagging
Cringe.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
BASED
Vegeta>Goku, cope
>GODgeta thread sitting at over 100 posts
>Cuckarot thread hovering at under 40
Kneel. Cope. Kneel n cope.
>w-w-why isn't my thread a bastion of high-level intellectual discussion like the CHADgeta thread...
all me btw HAHAHAHA
>doggeta thread filled with mouthbreathing reditors and kazenshitters
>Godku thread filled with real based anons
Cope.
>N-NO UR ALL JUST POO POO PEE PEE HEADS
Kek, I snicker at your ululations, my pet.
>peasantgetafag completely assblasted
>n-n-no I laugh at y-you
As usual, vegetashitter can't handle it.
Cope.
>literally "no u"
>ad hominem after ad hominem
It must be terrible being an inferior being. I, as an intellectual titan of the highest caliber, wouldn't know.
I leave you all with this scintillating reminder.
Cope.
>n-no you
>I am le smarter
Pathetic.
Cuckhan
>Jobs to Frieza forces who weren't stronger than Dodoria
>Jobs to base Frieza in DBS while Trunks killed Mecha Frieza back in DBZ
>Was completely useless for fighting Goku Black
>Got owned by Krillin
>Only human he defeated was Tien, because Japan doesn't like Tien
>Actually gets weaker between the Cell games and the Buu saga
>Gets trained by the Kais and jobs to a Bubblegum faggot
>Can't even save his little brother, second dad and his brother's friend
>Calls pink Bubblegum monster a retard
>Is immediately absorbed
>Is cucked by his little brother
>Fucks his mom and spics think it's cool
>Grew up a whiny little faggot
>Green dad hated his guts, but Cuckhans retardation happened to be contagious so he ended up liking him
>Can't win without one of his dads helping him
>Has had both of his dads sacrifice their lives, because he was a retard
>Couldn't save his wife when she was being POLED by a Pole on steroids
>Has a daughter (not even a son) and it's probably Goten's
>Useless waifu
>Didn't train after being shown how useless he was in the Buu saga
>Had to rely on his daddies again
>Took over 20 years and countless universal threats for him to finally realize that he should train, pay his dues and don't job every time like a spinless little faggot
Meanwhile Future Trunks
>Had to go back to the past, because Future Gohan jobbed to the androids
>Badass in every movie he's in
>Gets training from the Kais and actually doesn't job
>Lived in a universe filled with jobbers, had it destroyed and was the only one to survive with his 10/10 waifu
>Moved to a timeline with another him and 10/10 waifu, so he can kill him and have both waifus for himself
>Has a cool ass sword with such an interesting backstory that they made an entire movie about it
Telling lies, jobgetafag?
>KEKgeta thread filled with samefagging
Yeah, we know.
>Samefagging
>"bastion of high level intellectual discussion"
Cringe.
>chichi! Look at those faggot ass clothes! Faggot! Faggot fag! Fucking fag! My son's a fag.
>never won a fight in all the series except when having advantage over his opponent
Cope.
>I-IT'S BAD WHEN THE MANGA DOES IT!
Kys toeipaco.
>buzzword: the post
Why is kid jiren blushing? Does he like it?
>never won a fight in all the series
You mean when he was stronger?
Yeah, that's how every battle in DB goes, retard.
Remember kid Cuckhan in the RoSaT or adult Cuckhan on the Kai planet? You need to quit with smoking all that weed, Pablo
Meanwhile:
>Killed the Androids
>Killed Cell
>Killed Buu
>Killed Dabura
>Killed Frieza
>Killed king Cold
>Killed dozens Frieza soldiers
>And has Cuckhanfags sperging pure autism
>HEEEEELP!
That wasn't my argument, retard.
The argument was that the power scaling made no sense and I explained why.
Should I have write in Spanish next time so your feeble brain (or what's left of it) will be able to understand it?
>Don't use too much humor in your posts, because it will cause me to spazz out
Sorry, retard. Your autism is not my problem
>androids, cell, frieza and king cold all weaker than him except dabura
>killed a sealed version of buu
>using FUCKING frieza soldiers as an example
I rest my case. And my point is that the guy can't even put a good fight before jobbing. Even his father can do that.
T-THAT W-WASN'T MY POINT! AH-AHAHA W-WHY WOULD YOU THINK T-THAT...
Cope. And kefla wasn't using LSS anyway, she was using SS. Even then, piccolo said that gohan was becoming stronger in the battle so yeah, it was explained dumb toeiturd.
Shit, i forgot the greentext.
>inb4 the deflecting
>"humor"
>"CHAD CHAD CHAD CHAD KEK KEK KEK KEK SPIC SPIC SPIC SPIC"
Very funny, idiot.
>takes UI from GT
>takes the god ritual from GT
When did you realize that gt was better than super?
>GROSSgetafag is a scatfag too
Not surprising.
Kek. Based.
Why does goku have more moments with pan that goku? By this point, you may as well consider pan the child of goku.
>using FUCKING frieza soldiers as an example
Yeah, because EVERYONE should have been able to defeat Namek saga tier fighters, riiiiiiight?
>the guy can't even put a good fight before jobbing
You don't what jobbing is, little cuck.
If anything, Goku jobbed to Freeza so Trunks could beat him
Nobody fought Cold before and after, so no jobbing there.
He fought Dabura last and killed him, so no jobbing there.
This goes for all the fighters except Android 17 and 18. Not the 17 and 18 in the main timeline, but the 17 and 18 who killed Future Cuckhan (who is therefore a jobber) and whom got murdered by Chadnks for it.
You had no point, what you had was pure autism.
>wears father clothes
>get called a fag
What did goku mean by this?
>T-THAT W-WASN'T MY POINT!
It really wasn't.
You made it sound as if I was complaining about something the anime does as vehemently. The only thing I was addressing were the implications of having Gohan beat Kefla.
>It's OK, guys because she was using SS and not LSS
Even though we don't know how much they differ in strength you still think that it matters, cuck.
> piccolo said that gohan was becoming stronger
Though, having him defeat Kefla makes him the strongest unfused character in the ToP, Paco.
I know that you like your boyfriend, but this fanwanking has got to stop.
>Shit, i forgot the greentext
Cuck
>Very funny, idiot.
I never said that cucks would find it funny as well, cuck. How's your wife's boyfriend doing? Oh, what am I saying? You're a gaycuck
>Yeah, because EVERYONE should have been able to defeat Namek saga tier fighters, riiiiiiight?
Of course, these guys have a power level of 1,000. Even yamcha and chiaotzu can take then on.
>You don't what jobbing is, little cuck.
If anything, Goku jobbed to Freeza so Trunks could beat him.
Goku did put a good fight against him. He even defeated him. It seems that you are the one that doesn't know what jobbing is.
Trunks can only win against people weaker than him (except dabura). All the exanples you posted were he fighting against people he surpassed long ago.
Frieza
>jobs to a sword
>jobs to a kamehameha
also Frieza
>despite getting beat up by Bitchly for an hour, he shows no lasting injuries, and looks completely healthy
B-bitchlybros... how is our boy less than earthling level sword tier...?
The content is handled by pedophiles m, and sexual deviants so it also stems to its fanbase which is also a bunch of pedophiles. Watch all the pedos squirm & seeth when they see this.
Champa’s back.
>Even though we don't know how much they differ in strength you still think that it matters, cuck.
It does. If kefla isn't as strong as you say, then your entire point is bullshit.
>
>Though, having him defeat Kefla makes him the strongest unfused character in the ToP, Paco.
Again, kefla was using SS not LSS. Otherwise she would lose control of his power and detsroy the plataform likr she was doing just before.
>know that you like your boyfriend, but this fanwanking has got to stop
I didn't mention toyotaro in my post cuck
>cuck
See? I was right, he's deflecting.
That doesn't matter if frieza was being beaten an entire hour. If anything, it says a lot about frieza resistance but nothing else.
What the hell are you talking about moecuck?
Jobgetabros... what the hell is this?...
you could take everything from gt and still make something better, you'd have to try really hard to make something worse than Gt
>short tail
drugs
>Of course
While I was making a list of the characters Chadnks killed, Cuckhan was unable to defeat first(!) form Freeza. That's below Namek saga tier.
>Goku did put a good fight against him. He even defeated him.
Jobbers do give good fights, but their only job is to show the audience how strong their opponent is to have the stakes raised so it will look more impressive when the next guy beats him and we knew exactly how strong Chadnks when he defeated Freeza and Cold, because Goku had shown us exactly how strong Freeza was, like a good jobber.
>Trunks can only win against people weaker than him
You're really retarded.
Every fight is won by the stronger force, cuck.
Goku, 17 and Freeza defeated Jiren, because their combined force was bigger.
Kid Cuckhan defeated Cell, because his power and that of the fighters who joined was greater than Cell's. You're retared.
>All the exanples
examples
> were he
were of him
>fighting against people he surpassed long ago
You're really grasping at straws, cuck.
What matters is that he defeated them by himself. Also, we don't know when he surpassed Freeza and Cold. You're talking out of your Mexican ass
Is the "AHAAA! ARETE!" The islamic version of "AIEEEEEE! YAMETEEEE!"?
pls don't bully
>you'd have to try really hard to make something worse than Gt
So super writers put all their efforts in shitting on dragon ball? Bad to know.
His fat is sucking it in.
yes. literally the same
>It does. If kefla isn't as strong as you say, then your entire point is bullshit.
"He defeated Kefla, who is a fusion of Kale who humiliated Golden Freeza, who is as strong as SSB Goku"
Show me where it matters which type of transformation Kefla used, cuck. You can only complain about the fact that I wrote Kale instead of LSS Kale, but in the grande scheme of things it does not matter because anybody who knows the lore know what I meant. So that would be nitpicking.
>Again, kefla was using SS not LSS.
Not in the anime. LSS has green hair and guess what which color hair Kefla had. Also ,the fusion takes the best attributes and not the weakest, retard.
2 arguments in favor of LSS and headcanon against, guess which I'm going to choose?
Though, it's still irrelevant, because the SS transformation is still a significant multiplier which would have made it even more impossible for Cuckhan to have bridged this gap none of the other fighters were able to bridge unless they went UI or worked in unison like when all the majority of the U11 fighters banded together to fight Kale.
>I didn't mention toyotaro in my post cuck
For fucks sake, Carlos. Was I talking about Toyo or Cuckhan? Are you fanwanking Toyo or Cuckhan? Lrn2read, Geebus.
>See? I was right, he's deflecting.
Who are you talking to and about?
Fucking cuck, I wouldn't have written that entire slab of text if I was aiming to deflect, you little cum sniffer
>ignoring the other half of my post.
Sad delfecting cuck.
>Jobbers do give good fights, but their only job is to show the audience how strong their opponent is to have the stakes raised so it will look more impressive when the next guy beats him and we knew exactly how strong Chadnks when he defeated Freeza and Cold, because Goku had shown us exactly how strong Freeza was, like a good jobber.
Holy shit, you fault me of grasping at straws after writing this shit. Goku never jobbed to frieza,he got him beaten fair and square. Trunks didn't fight frieza in his full power and even if he did, my point is that trunks can only defeat people weaker than him. Like a good jobber would do (see vegeta for example)
>You're really retarded.
Every fight is won by the stronger force, cuck.
Goku, 17 and Freeza defeated Jiren, because their combined force was bigger.
Kid Cuckhan defeated Cell, because his power and that of the fighters who joined was greater than Cell's. You're retared.
Anime filler. Goku and vegeta beated jiren in base form. And the other fighters didn't help gohan in the manga (pretty cool scene though). And cell put a good fight against gohan even though he was weaker. Unlike trunks that got killed inmediatly after cell comeback.
>deflecting just like i predicted
Sad how he can only win against weaker opponents and can't even put a good fight while at it.
>Show me where it matters which type of transformation Kefla used, cuck.
Using a stronger transformation = more power. Not using said transformation = less power. Fucking retard.
>You can only complain about the fact that I wrote Kale instead of LSS Kale, but in the grande scheme of things it does not matter because anybody who knows the lore know what I meant. So that would be nitpicking.
That isn't my point. My point is that kelfa wasn't using LSS because she wasn't losing control of his power. If kefla wasn't using LSS, then it's totally plausible that gohan could defeat her when she is just using SS.
>Not in the anime. LSS has green hair and guess what which color hair Kefla had. Also ,the fusion takes the best attributes and not the weakest, retard.
2 arguments in favor of LSS and headcanon against, guess which I'm going to choose?
Talking about headcanon and then Using the anime discards anything you say since the anime ToP was filled with inconsistencies that made the plot nonsensical. And yeah,the fusion takes the best attributes. That's why kefla didn't transform into LSS, since she didn't control it. Kale was beaten and unconcious before fusing so kefla was weaker than she would normally.
>Though, it's still irrelevant, because the SS transformation is still a significant multiplier which would have made it even more impossible for Cuckhan to have bridged this gap none of the other fighters were able to bridge unless they went UI or worked in unison like when all the majority of the U11 fighters banded together to fight Kale.
It's not. Caulifla was namek SS goku tier. SS1 is shit nowdays.
>For fucks sake, Carlos. Was I talking about Toyo or Cuckhan? Are you fanwanking Toyo or Cuckhan? Lrn2read, Geebus
No one. Also:
>geebus
Cringe.
>Who are you talking to and about?
Fucking cuck, I wouldn't have written that entire slab of text if I was aiming to deflect, you little cum sniffer
It's delfecting because i refuted it right now. Now, cope.
>ignoring the other half of my post
Why would I extent the debate from Cuckhan and Trunks to Yamcuck and Shitzu?
Stay on track, cuck
> Goku never jobbed to frieza,he got him beaten fair and square
Freeza survived didn't he? And then Trunks showed how it should have been done. I don't care if you like it or not, but we can count that as jobbing. Seethe more.
> Trunks didn't fight frieza in his full power and even if he did
Final form? Checked
Mechanical upgrades? checked
Nope, you're full of shit, cuck
>trunks can only defeat people weaker than him
Are you going to keep posting this shitty meme? Show me fighters who defeated an enemy when the force used was not greater than the opponents they defeated.
Spirit bombs and combined attacks also use force greater than the opponent, so good luck.
>Let's switch up the debate from whether or not the greater force always wins to what's canon or not
IDGAF
>Goku and vegeta
Goku and Freeza
> beated jiren
Defeated Jiren
>In baseform
What that tells you is that their combined power was greater than Jiren's power.
Again, the greater power wins
>And cell put a good fight against gohan even though he was weaker
So, the stronger fighter won in the end. Thus, the greater power wins. You'rte proving my point, cuck
>Unlike trunks that
Unlike Trunks who
>got killed inmediatly after cell comeback
immediately got killed after
That's completely irrelevant. Also, it might be all the typos, but are you referring to when Cell was revived and killed Trunks?
That event has nothing to do with jobbing, but it does prove that the stronger force always wins.
You have not shown why Trunks would be considered a jobber, except only in your little spic fanfiction world.
>deflecting
You don't know what this means, don't you?
Admit it, cuck.
>he can only win against weaker opponents
see above
>can't even put a good fight while at it
Ha, watching him defeat Freeza and Cold was anything but a bad fight, cuck.
Seethe harder
Because as time went on, his 'superiority' became less and less justified. Whereas back in the day we saw him actually train, struggle, set goals for himself and reach for them by the time of Buu arc we're just TOLD he worked hard for these two new forms instead of being shown the process. Goku was defined as someone who became stronger through his struggles and by the time Super comes along, it's not longer about him becoming noteworthy through his own efforts but Super Saiyan God ritual, off-screen Super Saiyan Blue Master, what if I take this technique that was extremely dangerous and put it on top of THIS transformation with no repercussions whatsoever?, and then Ultra-Asspull which is again something he literally stumbled into rather than strove for. Goku is no longer the man who works for his strength, he's become another brat spoiled rotten by the narrative to gain the ability to overcome adversity not by his own efforts but 'lol reasons' which doesn't sit well with many longtime fans for good reason.
>Not using said transformation = less power
And I also mentioned that we don't know how much the difference between the transformations is. We can throw up a range though and even if I said that SS has a 50x mutliplier and LSS a 60x multiplier or even a 100x multiplier fact remains that LSS Kale was able to defeat SSB Goku and Golden Freeza.
ANY fusion with her would be far above SSB Goku and Golden Freeza combined. That's why I said that when Cuckhan defeated a Kale fusion, it automatically made him the strongest fighter in the ToP solely because that fusion had Kale in it.
Do you understand now that KALE was the deciding factor and not which shitty transformation Kefla used?
I don't even have to read the rest of your shitty retort, because this LSS talk is irrelevant.
>delfecting
Cuck.
I want to squeeze it and pull it.
>Why would I extent the debate from Cuckhan and Trunks to Yamcuck and Shitzu? Stay on track cuck.
You are the one acting like if trunks defeating frieza soldiers is impressive. It's not, defeating someone weaker than you doesn't mean shit.
>Freeza survived didn't he? And then Trunks showed how it should have been done. I don't care if you like it or not, but we can count that as jobbing. Seethe more.
Learn the definition of jobbing. Beating someone ass and he surviving doesn't mean anything if you lost.
>Final form? Checked. Mechanical upgrades? checked. Nope, you are full of shit.
He wasn't using his full power. Cope.
>Are you going to keep posting this shitty meme? Show me fighters who defeated an enemy when the force used was not greater than the opponents they
defeated. Spirit bombs and combined attacks also use force greater than the opponent, so good luck.
Wasn't my point. My point is putting a good fight against your opponent. And no, jobbing doesn't mean just losing, jobbing means being utterly defeated by your opponent. (Take vegeta loses as an example)
>using the anime as an example and delflecting when being told of it
Cringe.
>What that tells you is that their combined power was greater than Jiren's power. Again, the greater power wins.
Jobren wasn't weaker than base goku and vegeta. By this point, you realized that you fucked up or you are retarded.
>So, the stronger fighter won in the end. Thus, the greater power wins. You'rte proving my point, cuck
That isn't my point. See above my post.
>That's completely irrelevant. Also, it might be all the typos, but are you referring to when Cell was revived and killed Trunks? That event has nothing to do with jobbing, but it does prove that the stronger force always wins. You have not shown why Trunks would be considered a jobber, except only in your little spic fanfiction world.
Trunks being killed without putting a good fight before it is jobbing.
(Pic related also)
>And I also mentioned that we don't know how much the difference between the transformations is. We can throw up a range though and even if I said that SS has a 50x mutliplier and LSS a 60x multiplier or even a 100x multiplier fact remains that LSS Kale was able to defeat SSB Goku and Golden Freeza.
>ANY fusion with her would be far above SSB Goku and Golden Freeza combined. That's why I said that when Cuckhan defeated a Kale fusion, it automatically made him the strongest fighter in the ToP solely because that fusion had Kale in it.
>Do you understand now that KALE was the deciding factor and not which shitty transformation Kefla used?
Kale was weaker than caulifla in SS1, Who was at SS namek goku tier. That alone tell us that the LSS multiplier is almost as big as SSG or SSB. Kefla wasn't using LSS, she was using SS. I don't get why you can't understand this.
>I don't even have to read the rest of your shitty retort, because this LSS talk is irrelevant
So you deflect again? Good to know.
>GODKU Thread
Filled with discussion, and intellectual battles between the anons inside it.
>CRINGETA thread
Filled with samefagging, shitposting, and all the anons inside throwing kiddy insults to each other.
reminder that the threads of "x" character reflects the quality of them.
>You are the one acting like if trunks defeating frieza soldiers is impressive
I didn't gave it any value.
My comment was stating his kill count and you spazzed out about it.
>Beating someone ass and he surviving doesn't mean anything if you lost
What? Are you being obtuse on purpose?
When you beat someone, that person survives and is then defeated by a stronger foe then yes, you're a jobber.
Goku's fight against Freeza made us realize how strong Trunks was when he defeated Cuckza. Goku is a jobber, deal with it.
>He wasn't using his full power. Cope.
Trunks was using SS, but not his full power either so you're pathetic attempt at damage control is therefore nulled.
>My point is putting a good fight against your opponent.
Moving the goalpost.
You were bitching about how Trunks only defeats opponents he's stronger as.
> jobbing means being utterly defeated by your opponent
HAHAHAHA only in Spicland, Pedro, only in Spicland. Fucking plebs.
>delflecting
It's "deflecting", little cuck. Put the Doritos aside and check what you're typing.
>using the anime as an example and delflecting when being told of it
Delfllfecting (or however you spics write it)? No, I corrected you when you got the final battle of the ToP in your precious manga wrong, cuck.
Seethe harder.
>Jobren wasn't weaker than base goku and vegeta
That's why Goku and Freeza pushed Jiren out of the ring and not Goku and Vegeta, you little cuck. You need to learn what "implications" are. Use the internet for something else than your gay furry porn and type in what implications are. Search for the definition of "jobbing" while you're at it, spic.
>That isn't my point
You never had one.
>See above my post.
So, I must read ?
That is above your post.
>Trunks being killed without putting a good fight before it is jobbing.
Does that fit the description of jobbing I gave you?
(Also, pic related)
Base Kale was faster than SS Cabba could see, retard and SS Cabba is as strong as SS Vegeta.
Remember when she was in base and stole the pendant back from Cabba? She was several feet away, yet was still able to move to him, grab the pendant, return to her spot and do all of that without Cabba noticing anything.
There is no conceivable way that you can say that base Kale is weaker than SS Namek saga Goku.
So, base Kale is already stronger than SS Cabba who was as strong as SS Vegeta in the U6 tournament.
The difference between SS and SSB is difficult.
Let's use the canon multipliers to explain why and you better listen, cuck.
SS is a 50x multiplier, but SS2 is only a 2x mutliplier.
This means that Kale as an SS would already be 50x stronger (the multiplier on top of a base that's already stronger than SS Cabba) than SS Cabba, which is also 50x stornger than SS Vegeta.
We don't know if SSB is 50x more powerful than SS, because the manga is too inconsistent for that.
So, Base Kale = SS Vegeta = SS Cabba.
Now, what is a fusion?
A fusion is not Kale + Caulifla, it is closer to Kale x Caulifla
She wasn't called the strongest warrior on the battlefield for nothing. There is no conceivable way that anybody would be stronger than Caulifla x Kale.
Caulifla + Kale is understandable, but the rest is utter BS.
So, Kale's power and the nature of the fusion make it impossible.
Even a base fusion would still be more powerful.
>Kefla wasn't using LSS, she was using SS
Irrelevant to all the points I've presented and my OP, but if that's what you think, show the evidence
>So you deflect again? Good to know.
>Spic learns a new word and thinks that everything is deflecting
No, I was serious. Nothing you wrote added anything to the subject. I won't waste time on your misunderstanding and BS comments like:
>SS1 is shit nowdays.
>No one
>Cringe
>It's delfecting
You're one big cringe parade, cuck
Now cope
>I didn't gave it any value. My comment was stating his kill count and you spazzed out about it.
I didn't. I told you that his kill count isn't impressive if they are all weaker than him.
>When you beat someone, that person survives and is then defeated by a stronger foe then yes, you're a jobber.
Goku's fight against Freeza made us realize how strong Trunks was when he defeated Cuckza. Goku is a jobber, deal with it.
He's not. You don't know what jobbing means
>Trunks was using SS, but not his full power either so you're pathetic attempt at damage control is therefore nulled
Again, trunks defeating frieza isn't impressive because frieza was weaker than him. It's even worse because you claimed that frieza was using all his power, something that isn't true.
> moving the goalposts. You were bitching about how Trunks only defeats opponents he's stronger as.
Which is true. Both of the things i said are true.
>HAHAHAHA only in Spicland, Pedro, only in Spicland. Fucking plebs.
In those threads,that what it means. Otherwise you wouldn't post gohan as a jobber.
>That's why Goku and Freeza pushed Jiren out of the ring and not Goku and Vegeta, you little cuck.
Being pushed and beaten are different things. Anyone could have pushed jobren and make him fall. Shown when goku could restrain him in base form.
>You never had one
I have one though.
>So, I must read #?
That is above your post
I mean inside my post.
>Does that fit the description of jobbing I gave you
Yeah, he lost.
>(pic related)
I don't see how.
>Base Kale was faster than SS Cabba could see, retard and SS Cabba is as strong as SS Vegeta.
Speed/power. Kale didn't hurt golden frieza before you bring him up.
>base Kale is already stronger than SS Cabba who was as strong as SS Vegeta in the U6 tournament.
Holy headcanon.
>We don't know if SSB is 50x more powerful than SS, because the manga is too inconsistent for that.
Cope toeipup. We don't need SSG or SSB multiplier since we already know that: goku SSG > vegito SS3. That's already show us how strong LSS is.
>She wasn't called the strongest warrior on the battlefield for nothing
So she is stronger than jiren? Retard.
>Irrelevant to all the points I've presented and my OP, but if that's what you think, show the evidence
Kale was unconcious before she fused with caulifla. When a saiyan is unconcious he loses his transformation, that's why kefla couldn't use LSS, because kale lost it in the fusion. As shown with vegito, the fusion is less powerful when one of the two was beaten before fusing. And if kefla was using LSS she would lose control of his power. It's relevant because it explains why gohan could fight kefla.
>No, I was serious. Nothing you wrote added anything to the subject. I won't waste time on your misunderstanding and BS comments.
That's deflecting idiot.
Jobgetabros... w-what are these posts?! I-i can't understand half of what is said on them... from what i know, it's something called "discussion". C-could a humble user explain what that is? P-please...
>I told you that his kill count isn't impressive if they are all weaker than him
So you were spazzing out! I accept your concession
>It's even worse because you claimed that frieza was using all his power
BS. I said that he was in his final form and had mechanical upgrades. So, that's three strikes.
>Which is true. Both of the things i said are true.
Irrelevant. The trick is to never move the goal post or switch the subject, because that means that what you're saying is irrelevant and should not be replied to. Good job, you have just disqualified yourself. and I have already told you why that failure of a point makes no sense
>In those threads,that what it means.
Be honest. Are you the faggot the other guys were trying to teach what a jobber really is? You were that faggot in the previous thread weren't you?
>Otherwise you wouldn't post gohan as a jobber
He jobbed to Buu. He lost to Buu so the real fighters could show us how it's really done. Yes, Cuckhan is a jobber, but not for the reason you provided.
>Being pushed and beaten are different things
Tournament rules, bitch. Deal with it
> Anyone could have pushed jobren and make him fall
Really? I swear, you're either a good troll or a retard. It would have been done a lot sooner if it was that easy.
>Shown when goku could restrain him in base form
Your spic brain is also unable to understand that they were all tired.
>I have one though.
Fallacious arguments are the same as non-arguments
>Yeah, he lost
If that's all, then no, it doesn't
it's something that makes this thread less popular than the other
>So you were spazzing out! I accept your concession
No, i wasn't. Read my post again.
>BS. I said that he was in his final form and had mechanical upgrades.
So he wasn't using his full power? That makes trunks win even worse.
>Irrelevant. The trick is to never move the goal post or switch the subject, because that means that what you're saying is irrelevant and should not be replied to. Good job, you have just disqualified yourself.
I didn't move the goalpost. You are talking about multiple things and i'm answering them.
>Be honest. Are you the faggot the other guys were trying to teach what a jobber really is? You were that faggot in the previous thread weren't you?
Literally who
>He jobbed to Buu. He lost to Buu so the real fighters could show us how it's really done. Yes, Cuckhan is a jobber, but not for the reason you provided
Only because he lost to buu? That's stupid.
>Tournament rules, bitch. Deal with it
Yeah, but he wasn't beaten by power.
>Really? I swear, you're either a good troll or a retard. It would have been done a lot sooner if it was that easy.
In his weak state when both base goku and vegeta could kick his ass, yeah, anyone could.
>Your spic brain is also unable to understand that they were all tired.
Thanks for proving my point.
>Fallacious arguments are the same as non-arguments
Trunks being a jobber isn't a fallacy. Is the truth.
>If that's all, then no, it doesn't
Your definition of jobber says that.
And you still haven't explained why you are posting gohan pictures.
>Speed/power
You probably mean Speed =/= power and you'd be wrong.
You need power to perform strength and speed. The more power you have, the faster you can be.
>Kale didn't hurt golden frieza before you bring him up
I brought Golden Freeza up in the OP AND every comment after.
And no, she did hurt Golden Freeza and made him bleed as seen in pic related
>Holy headcanon.
SS Cabba and SS Vegeta were equally matched.
The fact that Kale can move at speeds SS Cabba is unable to see means that she has more power.
There aren't any instances in DB when weaker characters can move faster than the stronger characters, cuck.
My point still stands.
>We don't need SSG or SSB multiplier
you don't, because you're one those fags who think that SS sin't a 20 - 50x multiplier
>goku SSG > vegito SS3. That's already show us how strong LSS is
You need to know how strong SSG is first for that to make any sense, cuck.
>So she is stronger than jiren?
Who are you to question canon statements in favor of your "muh Cuckren is the strongest" bs? Vados said it, therefore it holds more weight than your cuck fiction.
>the fusion is less powerful when one of the two was beaten before fusing
>When a saiyan is unconcious he loses his transformation
These two things are not the same, they don't necessarily follow logically and you still haven't provided evidence for any of it. Put the nachos down and she the scans.
>That's deflecting idiot.
You were deflecting by going off the topic with the cringy posts I quoted, cuck.
Super sucks
>You probably mean Speed =/= power and you'd be wrong.
>You need power to perform strength and speed. The more power you have, the faster you can be.
This is not the case though.
>And no, she did hurt golden Freeza and made him bleed as seen in pic related
I was talking about base kale hurting golden frieza.
>SS Cabba and SS Vegeta were equally matched.
they weren't. Vegeta was impressed by cabba power, that's all.
>There aren't any instances in DB when weaker characters can move faster than the stronger characters
There's dyspo.
>you don't, because you're one those fags who think that SS sin't a 20 - 50x multiplier
What in my post makes you think that?
>You need to know how strong SSG is first for that to make any sense, cuck
Goku claimed it. That's all the proof we need
>Who are you to question canon statements in favor of your "muh Cuckren is the strongest" bs? Vados said it, therefore it holds more weight than your cuck fiction
She isn't stronger than jire. Though. He wasn't showing his full power and vados only said that the tournament would be ruined by kale, not that she was steonger than anyone else inside it.
>These two things are not the same, they don't necessarily follow logically and you still haven't provided evidence for any of it. Put the nachos down and she the scans.
Pic related. And a saiyan loses his transformation after being unconcious. Watch any battle in the series where a super saiyan loses and see this.
>You were deflecting by going off the topic with the cringy posts I quoted, cuck.
These posts were related, cuck.
Good post. Should have more (you)s.
Cringe.
>no response
It seems i won. Not surprising.
(You)
kek
I don't care about these words, I wanna get back to the fighting!
Based GODKU focused only on becoming a better version of himself!
Had no internet for 2 weeks, what's happening in funimation, dragonball etc?
Because it’s never been challenged except by characters that are god level tier or beyond in their own universe like STTGL and Madoka. However despite this they continue the powercreep of the series and include all the characters yet never make any else especially powerful or mixed up the rankings. People want to see Krillin, Vegeta, and Gohan be badass.
He is the smartest fighter in the series and he is literally retarded. It is case of making everyone incompetent to make your main character seem very competent.
Vegeta is a shit character and a shit rival.
I've got a Job for you
>Funimation
Nothing much outside of the occasional Vic drama
>Dragon Ball
Nothing much. Some episodes of the dub aired and one of Jiren's lines was altered significantly. The dub's about a month away from ending.
thanks
Someone leaked a bunch of audio of the VA's fucking around with the character's voices, Chuck Huber said there were rumors of Sabat cast couching VA's, and Vic got screwed by his incompetent lawyer.
Saved.
damn that sucks
Y-you didn't want me to save it?...
go ahead user
>GAY GAY GAY KEK KEK KEK
grow up.
Thank you!
I swear i wrote "cuck" not kek.
Fixed
Kek. Based.
He doesn't wear glasses though.
Post kino soundtracks
m.youtube.com
True. That's truly makes gohan look like a fag.
The Chadgod himself
Saved.
You made me remember this.
See
See
*five minutes later*
Cope
>no response
Surprise surprise, i won again.
Give it two or three more hours, cuck
>RTH
>M-MORE TIME PLEASE!
NO.
>It is case of making everyone incompetent to make your main character seem very competent.
To be fair, you don't have to be that smart in fighting. And goku is a saiyan and was teached in martial arts from birth so it makes sense for him to be more experienced.
Kek. Good edit.
Yo, cuck.
This image is no evidence for your claim about Kefla not being able to tap into LSS. Have something better before I return.
>I-I-I swear i wrote "cuck" not kek. G-g-guys I swear
Cuck
Let me bump up the usage of "job" one more time, for a grand total of 80 instances where some idiot typed "job"
I can see why these threads would deteriorate despite it being already shit back in 2015-2017, Super was brainless after all.
It isn't supossed to be. It's supossed to refute your claim of the fusion not being weaker when one of the two users is hurt.
And i listed kefla not transforming in LSS because of the injuries as one of the reasons, not all. (And i already explained why anyway)
Cry me a river bitch.
>implying that is supossed to make me look bad.
Cringe.
Also, you only talked about one part of my post and not the other. Do you have an argument to refute it?
Pity post for this failed thread
>makes a last cry before letting his thread be replaced
Sad.
BASED
True. Discussion is something that vegetafags, jobrenfags etc... can't really understand or even know of his value.
Holy fuck the other thread is low quality as fuck. Only proves further than the Jobrengeta posters are the lowest.
>every battle
Vegeta defeated Gohan while weaker than him. Vegeta defeated Super Buu while weaker than him, too. I'm not so sure he was stronger than transformed Zarbon before pocket sand and a surprise attack weakened him. Arguably the case for 2-0 (though that was more a matter of hindsight with withheld power). Vegeta made Gero run away with just a fucking bluff.
Name a character that seethed at the superiority of another character for over 250 episodes
Headcanon: the post.
Vege- w-wait n-not him. Mmmmmm.... oh shit jobgetabros what...
My god, Dragon Ball threads are fucking horrible...I like it
>episodes
>canon
Never forget.
Why is Vegeta in Super Saiyan?
>unrelated
Is this my curse? Being undefeated against jobgetafags till the end of my days? Then, so be it...
>curse
To handle the drugs better. Otherwise he may job to them too.
Can anyone from Dragon Ball defeat him?
>unrelated again
Like i said, i better prepare to grow accustomed to it.
Zeno. And that's it really.
>he's having a meltdown
Why is he so smug bros?
Talking seriously jobgetafag, do you even sleep? How can you shitpost without even going outside for an hour at least?
Super is unoriginal garbage so it's not surprising.
Bejita finally kissed his wife on the cheek. Not what Gokek wanted, but it's a start.
Enter the /cute/gang
Exit the Jirenfags
Exit the Jobtardfags
Exit the Vegetards
Exit the Tardkufags
Exit the concessionposters
Exit the pedoposters
Exit the animevsmangaposters
Exit the copeposters
Don't even think of replying to me unless you're down with the cuteness
Cutegang HQ
based and cutepilled
Enter my cute lovable wife Chino!
Based Cutefriend
Goku is the worst father but the best grandpa
>It's supossed to refute your claim of the fusion not being weaker
No, your claims were that Kefla wasn't LSS AND that she was unable to go LSS, because Kale was unconscious and pic you provided has evidence for none of those claims.
>No, i wasn't. Read my post again
You were spazzing out about the fact that I added the Freeza soldiers to Trunks' kill list.
You went full retard by claiming that they weren't important and I showed you that your value judgement is irrelevant to the facts I posted. Cry harder.
>So he wasn't using his full power? That makes trunks win even worse
>None uses full power, but somehow that makes one worse than the other.
Cope, cuck. That makes them equally bad or good. Depends on which kind of subjective value you want to give it. Not that your personal opinion matters.
> You are talking about multiple things and i'm answering them.
No, I was replying to all your BS and then decided that it's a waste of time because you're probably mentioning irrelevant nonsense either on purpose or because you're a retard. Either way, not my problem.
>Only because he lost to buu? That's stupid.
I said that Cuckhan is a jobber, but not for the reason you provided and you still stick with the retarded reason you provided. Cuckhan's power got raised to his max (potential unleashed), which had the stakes were raised because when Buu defeated him, Buu looked even more powerful.
That was Cuckhans job, to make Buu look good and the fighter who defeated him even better.
>Yeah, but he wasn't beaten by power.
He was. The combined power of Freeza and Goku was higher than that of Jiren.
>In his weak state when both base goku and vegeta could kick his ass
EVERYBODY was tired. That's no excuse.
>Your definition of jobber says that
No, my definition of jobber Calls Cuckhan a jobber because he lost to make the other fighters look good and not simply because he lost. Cope.
>And you still havent explained why you are posting gohan pictures.
Irrelevant
>This is not the case though.
Try to explain your "argument". I'm not a mindreader and yes, you need to substantiate/explain it. We aren't in kindergarten anymore.
>I was talking about base kale hurting golden frieza.
Nobody made that claim, so why even bring that irrelevant shit up? That's literally a time wasting technique.
>they weren't. Vegeta was impressed by cabba power, that's all.
1. The average U6 Saiyan is stronger than the average U7 Saiyan. Has to do with S-cells. So you entire "SS Caulifla is as strong as SS Goku on Namek" is bs and you haven't even provided any arguments for why that should be the case.
What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
This is why your claim is dismissed until you have provided evidence or a solid argument.
2. You're clearly using the shitty manga and to be fair, Cabba landed three hits while Vegeta landed one before he went Super Saiyan. Now, I'm not saying that Cabba was stronger, but I also can't say that he was (a lot) weaker. It's chapter 12 btw.
>There's dyspo.
Are you implying that Dyspo , the nr 3 of the pride Troopers was weak?
Also, I take one thing back. When I said strength, I meant power. Power relates to how much ki you have and fighters can use ki to increase their speed, their strength or both.
Jiren > Dyspo and Toppo clearly used all his ki for strength and not for speed (even though he was still relatively fast as stated by Goku in the exhibition arc)
>What in my post makes you think that?
The fact that you're a cuck
>Goku claimed it. That's all the proof we need
No, cuck. We know that SSG beats SS3, but we don't how strong SSG is and we don't know how strong the LSS transformation is. Cope.
Also, Vegito SS3? You absolute cuck. Vegito never went SS3 ffs.
>He wasn't showing his full power
Neither was Kefla. She was called the strongest BEFORE she powered up. Cope
>vados only said that the tournament would be ruined by kale
Why are you going from Kefla to Kale?
>original plan was to have goku fuse with gohan
so, what would their name be? goku?
Go(from Gohan)ku(from Goku)
>Pic related. And a saiyan loses his transformation after being unconcious
Kale was still in her LSS state though.
Cope.
>These posts were related, cuck.
Those cringy comments were related to your other cringy comments, but not to the overall subject of this discussion. Cope
Regarding SS Caulifla and Freeza's fight: You seem to be forgetting that Freeza got considerably stronger since Namek.
FFS final form Freeza is as strong as base Goku with SSG absorbed....
When Goku recruited Freeza they were evenly matched.
This is the Goku after Beerus, Hit, Goku Black, Merged Zamasu and after all the times in the RoSaT. you're a retard if you think that Caulifla is just as strong as Goku was on Namek. Hell, she pushed Cuckza to use his Golden form in chapter 37.
Pic related show Vados claiming that Kefla, without power up, might be unmatched on the battlefield and keep in mind that she had seen Jiren battle SSB Goku by then.
So, yes, toyotaro's scaling makes no sense and only spic cucks think nothing of it
I don't have to imply anything. You're making an ass out of yourself whether I comment about it or not
>Vegeta defeated Gohan while weaker than him
When did that happen?
>Vegeta defeated Super Buu while weaker than him, too
When?
> I'm not so sure he was stronger than transformed Zarbon
He surpassed him and Dodoria, but not the Ginyu force
> Vegeta made Gero run away with just a fucking bluff
Are you implying that Vegeta was weaker than Gero? Be ashamed. Be very ashamed
>Vegeta defeated Gohan while weaker than him
Assuming you're talking about the short period after Namek before he fucks off, the only time he beat Gohan in a fight, he'd undergone several zenkai boosts and didn't require autistic rage to tap into his power
>Vegeta defeated Super Buu
Never happens
Gokhan
Goku-khan
>tien shows up
wtf does this bald honky think he can do to buu
>Gohan
1K+ x10 for 10K+ on a Vegeta so weakened he could be fought by the same Gohan who couldn't measure up to Nappa (who was only screwing around at the time and not serious like he got to match Goku...at just over 8K). Despite this, took out the tail and KO'd the boy (he learned to get some control over the form the second time, but still passes out when it is reversed just like his father).
>Super Buu
When he identity killed him as Buu pleads to remain himself. Becomes Kid. inb4 cope that it wasn't the death of Buu just one version of him
>surpassed
You say this as if you don't remember the fight or the lines from it (already alluded to). There isn't a canon value for Zarbon's transformed self. We don't know what you're saying to be factual. As it happens, we don't even have a canon value for pre-transformation. Just Daiz trash (useless).
>but not the Ginyu Force
Hard to say with Guldo being a thing.
>implying Vegeta was weaker than Gero
Are you implying the Vegeta who had to bluff there wasn't? Do you not recall why he bluffed? Surely not. Why you choose to jest is another matter.
>assuming a non-canon scene is in question
Nigger, you had best be having a laugh.
>excuses
Save them. See previous notation on this matter. Adding to it, he got put on the ground with one hit in the next meeting and the last was giving up (without a fight...again) even with back-up.
>never happens
>chinks are white
Don't think they qualify even for 'honorary' status.
>can do to Buu
But doesn't? With just things he already has and work as we know them to:
Tri-Beam
-Merely overtook a Buutenks blast though only intended for the likes of Dende
ECW
-Attempt to seal though something to put it in and a talisman would be necessary for lack of alternative place to dump Buu
Solar Flare
-Just the usual blinding on a foe that forgets he can sense ki from time to time
CSATT
-What some mistake for a simple 'kiai' is stated clearly as ignoring PL gaps to not just deflect, but reflect a Kamehameha (and maybe other, similar moves) with no clear cost (if any) shown. Should Buu be baited into something stupid like using all his might in such a move, at least this would let Tien do a little damage (possibly the case that it being an attack from Buu landing on himself, the thing actually hurts him unlike the usual where he is good as new after regen)
Going further into the realm of the unproven, but not unsound:
Fusion
-Had he made it long enough for Goku to show up, this would be an option though the gap for Tien with Goku even with Potara and superior Crane Techniques might be pushing it for seriously attempting to kill Buu. Upon becoming his fused self, I don't know that the Potara fusion couldn't do the dance with itself after multi-body (even split overcome by the multiplication commonly accepted and expected) for a further buff to help with the power issue as bullshit as that sounds (and is). No real rules stopping it set in place and could potentially do it repeatedly for stacking nonsense (though some might suggest it be balanced by having the time halved each time or something, we just don't have any word from AT on the matter to go on should that even be ruled a possibility)
Multi-Body ECW
-Should the absorbed Piccolo inside prove an issue, maybe another Tien can help deal with a redirect as otherwise PL gaps aren't meant to be a factor for this move. The drain problem being allowed to scale (merely humoring the talk rather than believing it would versus more likely taking more to seal a sufficiently stronger foe, but that has no backing) doesn't mean much if you can just get a clone to suffer the penalty for you
Further still into what could have been, but is probably over-reaching:
Self-Fusion
-With only the Potara and no others, I see no reason he couldn't multi-body fuse with himself (he would need to know the dance to pull that stunt)
Stacked Tri-Beam
-Be it multi-arm or multi-body, perhaps possible to fire the ki cannon through each 'lens' for a multiplier (each set of hands from each Tien can be an easy run-away even if blowing away the magnifiers down the line should this hit)
FPSS CHADly > SSB Gaygeta.
god I missed the threads when super was still airing
With Goku fusion:
KK
-Already touched on fusion a bit (and the solo options would apply here, too), but even without a hybrid bonus (like Gohan) suddenly applying to go along with the fusion bonus...Should he just suddenly remember he has KK (AT swept that shit along with Oozaru under the rug for having canon multipliers while ignoring the implications of his Raditz jabbering for ki techniques), that would do a lot for their pairing even before having access to superior moves from Crane
SB
-Entirely hypothetical, but using some ki to draw in ki from all over (involuntarily) before using it more wisely in the form of Dodonpa much less Tri-Beam (both superior to Kamehameha much less the grossly inefficient ball SB is typically used for)...might give it some value even before asking King Kai for communication via telepathy to beg for voluntary power contributions (means a lot less without powerful beings to contribute). Even just using this to gather energy just to heal/empower himself (though never used in this fashion, I don't see why it couldn't be) would be of some value
IT
-Mostly for getting around and maybe landing some worthwhile attack with a set-up
NOTE: That about covers for what I can think of Tri-clops doing at that moment when faced with the Buu in question.
>1K+ x10 for 10K+ on a Vegeta
WTF boy. Just say that Vegeta defeated Oozaru Gohan. It took me minutes to understand wtf you were saying. Also Vegeta's level was higher than 10k at that point. His base might have been 10k, but he ended with 21K, so he was anywhere between when he fought Gohan. Cope.
>When he identity killed him
you can't really end with "Cope" when your sentences are that retarded. You have not earned that right.
Also, where did you get that Vegeta was weaker than Super Buu? Show me the evidence
>we don't even have a canon value for pre-transformation. Just Daiz trash (useless)
"The Daizenshuu books were made from material collected by an organizational group called Caramel Mama, who had worked with Akira Toriyama and Bird Studio before on Chrono Trigger. Akinori Watanabe, the man who served as editor to all the Daizenshuu volumes, worked side by side with Toriyama on the Dragon Ball manga and he directed Dr. Slump movies"
"This Daizenshuu, the 7th and final one, is a huge Dragon Ball encyclopedia. I think the staff who make these books always have a rough time of it, but this one looked even more hellish than usual. They really did a great job. I am ridiculously forgetful, so despite being the author there is lots of stuff even I do not know anymore. It was often quite a nuisance, and I think having this encyclopedia around when the series was still running would have really helped me out. Darn it all. Anyway, my thanks to the staff, and to all Dragon Ball fans."
— Akira Toriyama, Daizenshuu 7, 1996
7 is the one in which the power levels were listed.
>Zarbon
Vegeta was weaker than transformed Zarbon and lost
Zarbon then took Vegeta to the rejuvenation chamber which granted Vegeta a massive Zenkai.
This enables Vegeta to overcome Zarbon by slamming his arm through his stomach.
How was Vegeta weaker again?
>Hard to say with Guldo being a thing.
Guldo isn't the entire Ginyu force
>Are you implying the Vegeta who had to bluff there wasn't?
After Vegeta arrives on the battlefield and turns into a Super Saiyan, destroying Android 19, Android 20 runs away.
So, no, I don't recall that, but you'll have no problem with providing the evidence, riiiight?
>Zero replies
It's probably bedtime in Mexico
>just say what you started with
You what?
>took minutes to get it
>still doesn't really get it
Right.
>was higher than 10K
>at that point
No, I just went over this. Nappa at his very best was about equal with base Goku (over 8K, but not 9K). Gohan didn't suddenly get some huge boost. Gohan was 981 on first reading. While serious and using Masenko (likely multiplying his PL), it only went up to 2.8K. In a series where typically a small gap like the canon 33% between Cui and Vegeta leads to insta-death, Gohan's somewhat pitiful showing was still way too good for Vegeta to be 10K (much less 21K). From where does this head canon spring?
>can't really
Are you not clear on the 'inb4' thing?
>how do we know Vegeta is weaker than Super Buu
Ah, so it is all just for giggles (and keeping this sad thread going). That's fine. To humor this (charity work though it is, stating the obvious can sometimes be worthwhile), Vegeta was made equal to Goku as of Majin's boost (that he retained for no good reason as with Old Kai's power-up for Gohan...and Guru's, plus Goku's from SKW. Vegeta lacks the option of the (jobber) form that let Goku fight on the same level as Buu (for what little good that does him) brief though it is. He doesn't have a way around this for Majin Buu. Super Buu is stated as much stronger still (and ass pulls ki sensing much like Vegeta had in the past, so they have that in common). He goes from someone Goku could match (until tuckered) to someone he dares not even attempt to fight on his own. No real need to get into the matter of Gotenks (and Gohan).
NOTE: Speaking of such things, GG is superior to Kamehameha.
he got kicked once and nearly died.
also, what's up with vegeta acting like such a woman?
>yo-you hide ss3 from me!! how could you??
>bejita, i'm so sorry...
these two need their tampons changed
he can fuck any villain in a blink of an eye and haters on 4chin just gonna full AUTISTIC SCREECH mode
>Daiz
That ain't the source material. The stupid quote you posts (hopefully just playing a role still) doesn't even say otherwise. Merely official (never was canon) not unlike other licensed trash. Not part of primary continuity. Not a source you can rely on (they're at fault for dipshits who believe in modifiers for SS as with x50).
>was weaker and lost to the Transformation
So far, so good.
>massive
Matter of perspective, really. Compared to what he got from a perhaps lesser beating from Recoome? Absolutely nothing. Humoring the official values and the last zenkai? And let's not even get into Goku's last one.
>this enables
Vegeta to throw dirt in the overconfident (which Vegeta states) Zarbon's eyes and land a devastating attack series to weaken his foe (also stated). Was Zarbon actually stronger, about the same or a little weaker? Not really clear, actually. What is clear is that Vegeta felt the need to go dirty (weakening his foe) before taking him out more directly (as you describe). That is how one would argue Vegeta may well have been weaker. If he was so much stronger (like in previous cases seen with Dodoria and Cui), he wouldn't do all that extra shit. One hit (if that) and a blast. Skip right to the end. It was needless to pull that stunt (and say all that extra stuff).
NOTE: For starters, Zarbon makes the same mistake Carrot keeps making around his Prince. Picture related.
>isn't the entire Ginyu Force
He doesn't need to be. You didn't clarify you meant all of them. Any of them suffice for beating 'the Ginyu Force'. Guldo is an obvious choice. Just get him with the ol' guard down (like so many others before him). How he died in canon, too.
>recall 19 dying and 20 running away
You're just missing out on a small part. You remember Vegeta bluffing (Piccolo point it out even before the Senzu bean call to Krillin)? Might you recall something that happened prior to 19's death perhaps related to this that could have made 20 have a critical advantage should he have fought Vegeta then and there?
NOTE: More Zarbon images (if you don't mind).
Don't contaminate our thread, Jobgetadog
>cites what happened
>with respect to a question of what could have been done
You should be able to puzzle this out with some introspection.
>what's up with Vegeta
He's ready for 3-0. He has a fool's hope in his heart that SS3 isn't just some jobber form. AT just didn't will it for him to be challenged by his "rival". The Nemesis will never know joy from such a shitty MC.
You didn't recognize me without filenames and talk of Vegeta earlier?
Yes I did but it's time I have told you to fuck off
you guys are literal monkeys shitflinging at each other, you're the lowest of the low. just wanted to remind you that
>Implying you couldn't have saved time by saying "Vegeta defeated oozaru Gohan" instead of those two of lines of mostly gibberish
>Implying you typed "oozaru" at all
Yikes!
>No, I just went over this.
You typed: 1K+ x10 for 10K+ on a Vegeta
1k x 10 = 10 AND 10k+ is more than 10k.
Vegeta was stronger than Oozaru Gohan BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION.
Having said that, Vegeta only severed his tail (a feat which could have been done by Roshi and Yajirobi).
He never defeated the Oozaru (made him give up, rendered it unconscious or dead).
>Are you not clear on the 'inb4' thing?
Irrelevant babble. You have not earned the right to talk about coping when your English is even worse than most FOBs.
>Vegeta was made equal to Goku as of Majin's boost
Really? Babibi took away his emotions, THAT's why Vegeta allowed him to control. Do you think that the prideful Saiyan prince would allow someone else to give him a power up?
Goku himself said that Vegeta had trained very hard to get where he was at that moment, despite knowing that he was under Babidi's control.
>When he identity killed him as Buu pleads to remain himself. Becomes Kid.
I meant this shit, cuck.
Explain this shit, because you implied that this scene happened and that it implied that Vegeta was weaker than Super Buu.
The only fucking thing you wrote instead of an explanation is "Well, I think that Vegeta is stronger because of events that aren't the one you initially talked about" Would have been a lot quicker if you had just posted a scan of that scene.
Don't forget the question wasn't whether or not Vegeta was stronger. You claimed that they fought, that Vegeta begged for mercy and that it was that event that somehow rebukes my claim that the fighter with the most power always wins.
>Speaking of such things, GG is superior to Kamehameha.
Cool, next time do it like this:
GG is superior to Kamehameha, because (enter reason)
>didn't post it in the other thread
I wonder who is behind this
>That ain't the source material.
No shit, the source was the canon material they gathered from the manga and other licensed media like official guidebooks, etc and the fact that the editor worked together with Toriyama. The D7 was not compiled by basement dwelling cucks, like you.
>Was Zarbon actually stronger, about the same or a little weaker?
You probably have to be a bit stronger to punch a fucking hole through a mans stomach.
>Zarbon makes the same mistake Carrot keeps making around his Prince
>Ignoring the fact that Freeza warned him to not take it easy, which made Zarbon transform immediately instead of waiting until the need arose like in their first battle
Sasuga, speedwatcher?
>Any of them suffice for beating 'the Ginyu Force'
Would Vegeta have defeated the Ginyu force if the only one he was able to defeat was Guldo?
The answer is no.
So, Vegeta is not stronger than the Ginyu force.
> You remember Vegeta bluffing (Piccolo point it out even before the Senzu bean call to Krillin)?
>Let's not provide evidence like civilized people
You're not Socrates, lad and the burden of proof (the one who makes the claim has to provide the evidence) lies with you.
I will await your evidence.
>if you don't mind
This is a message board for Chinese cartoons, you should not care about others (too much)
>ESL
Bleh.
>paranoid schizo
When will you learn?
>implying there was any need to when Oozaru Gohan is just Gohan and the same one he defeated
You that dipshit that keeps acting like Oozaru Vegeta isn't Vegeta, too?
>instantly forgets the plus and what it stands for
You fall on your head as a child just like Gokek? Get taken from behind by your rival, too?
>by your own admission
No, you merely choose to pretend at lacking comprehension. You randomly threw out some number. I asked you to explain both of them while addressing the known canon modifier for Oozaru on the Gohan Vegeta took out and his canon PLs (which you've avoided entirely). This while reminding how the non-Masenko using Gohan was keeping up with a Vegeta who performs worse than Nappa did against the child thanks to Power Ball weakening him (stated). The gaps don't need to be large for one-sided insta-kills, yet Vegeta just wasn't getting this result suddenly.
There is no reason to think he was as strong as even the half-assing Nappa from earlier. Even if you think he's as powerful as base Nappa (same as base Goku) for some reason, that has to be less than Gohan's Oozaru. The condition in question was beating a foe with a higher PL. Vegeta defeated him by way of KO through cutting the tail off. Were the roles reversed, Vegeta wouldn't lose to that alone as he doesn't get KO'd from having the transformation ended.
>only the tail
Come now. Is it really time to play the role of a scrub, too? Going to whine about how Super Buu lost to Vegeta (having his pods pulled down with Goku after Vegetto managed to get inside)? The result remains the same. Gohan was defeated by Vegeta. He had a higher PL, but lost anyway. It wouldn't matter if he had attacked the false moon, found and taken a senzu bean, gotten outside help or any other 'unfair' method was employed. No rules. This isn't some play-fighting affair like the tournaments Gokek indulges in (learning bad habits for it).
NOTE: Have a victory over Goten on me.
I challenge you to tell me what's wrong with that sentence
>could have been done by others
Neat. It was done by Vegeta, so he won.
>never defeated the Oozaru
>various conditions
You forgot the one for making them unable to continue (like Crippleku). Ignoring this, Gohan's Oozaru was taken out and him with it (unlike Vegeta). KO'd.
>wish to pretend you don't understand 'inb4'
Keeping in-character even here?
>took away his emotions
He failed that much (clearly).
>that is why
A claim, is it? Got proof that it was only about emotions (nothing else)? I sure hope it isn't contradicted (or that the thing you're denying for no clear reason isn't backed up by the source with talk of a gap between them that was addressed for the desired rematch).
>meant it
You didn't. Prove me wrong.
>cuck
Goku? What about him? He still starving?
>implied it happened
You implying it didn't? What did happen (in canon)? Perhaps you would like to recount it for us in detail? Could just post the hunt for the pods, Vegeta finding them, cutting them down and taking out the one with Buu to end the 'Super' version as an entity (creating a reversion to 'Kid'). Wish to give it a go (in your own words)?
>explain why Vegeta is weaker than Super Buu
>ignores explanation
Make your case, by all means. It is your move. The floor is yours (unless you wish to just concede, which is fine, I suppose).
>post a scan stating the obvious things in question
Really going all in with the act. To what end? Just so you can hear me talk? While we're at it, how about a reminder? Stop me if you've heard this one before...Vegeta is undefeated against Goku. 2-0.
>please don't make me read
>just post pictures
How very spoiled you are. You an anime-only?
>wasn't about Vegeta being stronger
It became that (for those he defeated), yes.
>begged for mercy
Supes did. Even the anime wasn't confusing about this. He didn't want to stop being himself.
>that event
One of the few cited, yes. Pod pulling to end 'Super' here.
>implying there was any need to when Oozaru Gohan is just Gohan
No, just Gohan is that whiny faggot. Oozaru Gohan does not whine and has a higher power level.
>You that dipshit that keeps acting like Oozaru Vegeta isn't Vegeta, too?
And you've based this off.....?
>instantly forgets the plus and what it stands for
I realized I overlooked that when I reread my post, BUT 1k+ x10 IS THE SAME as 10k+.
Nothing was gained with that post.
>I asked you to explain both of them while addressing the known canon modifier for Oozaru on the Gohan Vegeta took out and his canon PLs (which you've avoided entirely)
Yeah, I was so flabbergasted that I forgot that.
Gohan's pl was 2k under special circumstances, a rage BOOST. It is not his normal state (like KK). Like how the Kamehameha boosts Goku's powerlevel, but it's not that power level that increases when he transforms. His regular power level multiplies. Therefore, when we multiply Gohan's pl of 910 and not 2000+
When we multiply his pl of 910 with 10, we get a pl of 9100...This is below Vegeta's power level. Cope.
>non-Masenko using Gohan was keeping up with a Vegeta
Enraged Gohan has insane multipliers, because he's partially human
> The condition in question was beating a foe with a higher PL
Cutting or blasting a tail off, because you can't win isn't a beat down. Nothing would have happened if the tail wasnt' their weak point and Vegeta would have still gotten smashed.
>Vegeta defeated him by way of KO through cutting the tail off.
So, who had the higher power level, Gohan or Vegeta?
I'm not that other user who likes to go on about mini-games. Who had the higher powerlevel?
>Were the roles reversed, Vegeta wouldn't lose to that alone as he doesn't get KO'd from having the transformation ended.
But he was made to flee after Yajirobi cut his tail off.
He lost because the remaining fighters had more power than him (due to him being completely broken)
>someone is actually putting up with his this retard
That's commendable.
>next time say more than necessary
Why? Did you not know GG is superior to Kamehameha?
>because
This to say you need it spelled out for you (when it is obviously not about something subjective like preference)? By all means, ask away. I don't mind giving this reminder.
>the source was
Themselves. Their own chatter from the manga without proper citation to back claims like those in question (x50, for instance).
>gathered from other non-canon sources that are licensed
Riveting.
>the editor
If only it was relevant to canon.
NOTE: You really want to pretend at being a defender of Daiz like one of those Kanz niggers and other weeb retards? What next? "SSJ"?
>have to be a bit stronger
Not necessarily. Also, you're choosing to overlook the noted weakening speaks of with (overconfidence and low guard) using (dirt in a fake retreat) to capitalize for said strike(s). The result of this tactic was lowering Zarbon's PL (which can very well account for what you suggest). Was it needed? He doesn't bother with such things when he knows (senses PLs, so he would) he can just treat them as he did Cui or Dodoria. A pity for him that AT was ready to job him out, so as of Recoome he wasn't really pulling the same level of underhanded moves.
>watch
>not read
Setting this aside, Frieza's warning clearly wasn't sufficient (lizard brains and all). Once he transformed, he left himself be easy prey. Simple stuff.
>would he
He doesn't have to (as previously noted). Your wording just left an opening (so I took it).
>not stronger than Ginyu Force but beat one of them anyway
Impressive, but hardly his first time doing this sort of thing. That he goes on to be stronger than them mid-fight (senzu) is pretty fun, too.
>has to
Yet here you are time and time again (shoving it off on to daddy like some planted student acting engaged so the rest of the class can hear more lectures you already know yet feign ignorance about).
>will await evidence
You need evidence of what? The thing that happened with 19 that causes Vegeta to bluff against 20 (with Piccolo spelling it out)? Be specific. What am I paying you for if you're not going to set up my spikes properly? Or did you suddenly decide you don't just accept 2-0 for what it is? It is strange to me that this is where you choose to just concede to truth. Perhaps you've heard that one too many times in your sleep?
>should not care about others
You needn't fret about that, friend. In the end, it is all just a spot of fun (reminders and all). Names or not, a bunch of randoms don't matter much. What does? Goku being a terrible father, husband, friend, lover, hero, rival, etc. Hell of a thing.
>what's wrong
Would you like to exclude punctuation in this request?
You will have nothing to say if I was to exclude this.
>Going to whine about how Super Buu lost to Vegeta (having his pods pulled down with Goku after Vegetto managed to get inside)?
Wasn't that Buuhan? And was that what you meant with "When he identity killed him as Buu pleads to remain himself. Becomes Kid." I don't think you were, which means that you were diverting again.
>You forgot the one for making them unable to continue
You can't continue when you're dead, gave up or are unconscious
>wish to pretend you don't understand 'inb4'
Not my wish and your wishes are irrelevant. Cope.
>A claim, is it? Got proof that it was only about emotions (nothing else)?
Ha, you do not have the right to ask for evidence because you have supplied for your fallacious claims.
Also, since Kai is canon I'll post this:
youtube.com
"A little bit stronger"
>Prove me wrong
Look at ">When he identity killed him
you can't really end with "Cope" when your sentences are that retarded.
Also...."
>Could just post the hunt for the pods
First, write that IESLB shit of yours I reposted above in normal English and then provide the evidence.
>ignores explanation
Explanation? You from stating that there was an event to this bullshit and then to an event with Buuhan even though you specifically stated Super Buu. Nothing you wrote was relevant to your claim or counts as provided evidence. Cope.
>Provide evidence? Why should I do that?
I already told you that this isn't kindergarten. Owari to the da
hanku
>has a higher PL
Taken away by Vegeta's attack, yes. I haven't forgotten. Hell, it was technically given by Vegeta, too. The good Prince giveth and taketh.
>based off
Probably having just operated along the same lines with Gohan. Could explain how it could be an impression made.
>is the same as
It isn't. I merely low balled recollection on Gohan (as just 'over 1K') only to go back and get his original canon reading (and his higher Masenko value). The former being below 1K and the latter being over 2K. It only takes 1.1K (covered by 1K+ range up to just prior to 2K) to reach a point that breaks the 10K range (into 11K). When Vegeta says Goku is 'over 8K', he isn't leaving the statement open to suggest he could be any number above it (it has to end before 9K, but you would expect that as it gets too close he would describe the value differently like with 'nearly 9K'). Just "1K" multiplied by 10 makes a nice even 10K (no need to speak of being beyond it as that isn't a thing).
>nothing was gained
>notes having overlooked something
I disagree. Just not sure why you admitted it as if you really want to sell yourself as being genuine in the things you've been saying (all the while posting a picture of Vegeta to suggest you're cross with him for some reason that might be worth whining to the author about).
NOTE: Get some lewds of his grand-daughter and he might give you an audience (not unlike the deals of Roshi, Old Kai and others of this sort). Best of luck.
>2K from a rage boost
So you say. I'd even be willing to agree, but this is not stated. Indeed, I'd even go along with the talk of Kamehameha (as the Raditz fight showed) for Masenko contributing to that reading, too. Is that stated for us again? No. I fear AT had already dropped that concept by this time (and almost certainly for the beam clash a bit later for what little that is worth). It really feels that way when you go further ahead (like the KKx20 KMHM...Daiz, please).
Goku is more tolerable in the Super Manga. In the anime, they keep trying too hard to make him dumb even though he's an expert at this point.
>we are just going to go with the starting PL
That's fine. Not really smart, but fine.
>this is below Vegeta's PL
You keep saying that (and still haven't addressed talk of 21K earlier). Vegeta's canon PL started at 18K. When he used Power Ball, he was stated to lose some unknown (large) amount of power. There are no values. Just results to observe. After losing Oozaru, he returns to the base that had this power drop. A base that is now not insta-killing Gohan, Krillin, Yajirobe and Goku (even before the remnants of Spirit Bomb land) despite the canon Cui power gap of 33% leading to just that (KKx3 Goku failing hilariously against Vegeta with the same).
Vegeta would only need to be about the same as a Saibamen (Raditz) to have that sort of gap, yet the boy was able to somewhat face him (and not die instantly). More so when he got pissy (which should raise his power as you allude to though not likely to the same level as the canon value in question, but that is hard to say with certainty), of course. Much better than when he was facing Nappa. These things don't suggest 10K. They suggest worse than Nappa (over 8K) from back when he was sandbagging with weaklings (less than 8K).
>insane multipliers
Apparently not insane enough this time. Oozaru had to do work.
>hybrid status
Yes, yes. Nappa's plan to rape a new Empire into being on Earth. Big fan? Not sure why you're talking like this is connected to the hidden power revealed by rage thing. The power is owed to being a mutt. That much is clear and canon.
>Deflection
>This to say you
IESLB
>No argument, no elaboration, time wasting
>AMA instead of providing clear evidence
>General Spic behavior
>Themselves.
>Show that licensed media and the editor worked on the Daizenshuu, show Toriyama approved of the daizenshuu
>N-no it were the burgers
Cope
>You really want to pretend at being a defender of Daiz like one of those Kanz niggers and other weeb retards?
Irrelevant, deflection and cringe humor in what's supposed to be an intellectual discussion
The other thread is more suited for the likes of you
Do not imply that Vegeta was weaker, only that he used his brains for once. Using underhanded tactics can help the fight end quicker. Everybody would do that if it wasn't for muh "I don't like to fight dirty, because of honor blablabla". Old Vegeta never had a problem with fighting dirty, cuck
>Frieza's warning clearly wasn't sufficient
Irrelevant Spic babble. You claimed that Zarbon made the same mistake as Goku usually makes. I showed you that Zarbon started out in his storngets state, which is the complete opposite of the "Goku mistake"
Cope
>He doesn't have to (as previously noted). Your wording just left an opening (so I took it).
So, the answer is no. Which was exactly the answer I was going for. Thus, Vegeta would not have been able to defeat the Ginyu force if Guldo was the only one he was able to defeat. Therefore, Vegeta is not stornger than the Ginyu. Therefore, you proved my point, albeit like a spic
Cope
>Impressive, but hardly his first time doing this sort of thing.
Irrelevant. See above if you forgot what we were really talking about
>shoving it off on to daddy
I thought you were a female
>Be specific.
Were we talking about anything else, you little spic? Provide the evidence or concede
>bunch of randoms don't matter much.
So why did you ask me, your superior master, if you were allowed to post more Zarbon?
NVM I answered that myself
>can't win
Speaking of this talk, you keep insisting Vegeta had a higher PL. Why is he not able to just beat this mostly mindless ape to death (as with Zarbon in round 2, there should be no need for such methods or his desperation to prevent the transformation much less expending the last of his energy with a ki disc to take it out)? The gap you describe of 900 units is plenty. Going with official values (as you have put up a character suggesting you have stock with these), I believe this is close to the same thing Dodoria was up against (when getting his arms pulled behind his back and nearly plucked out before a single blast insta-kill from some unnamed move). The situation (Vegeta fretting over someone so beneath him) is ludicrous. He didn't exactly look thrilled when Krillin manages to direct Gohan his way. Why did he care? Why keep saying he 'can't let him transform'? Why speak like he would no longer be able to kill Gohan if he transformed? Was he merely pretending for the audience (as you are just for the sake of putting on a show with yours truly in this duet)?
>isn't a beat down
Who says it has to be for a defeat? As before, this is scrub talk. He could pull out some future tech and shoot Gohan merely resulting in a crippled state (TKO) for a win to stick. It doesn't need to be a kill, it doesn't have to be solo, it can use tools, etc. Using a particular move tactically (to overcome a botch with another tactical move) to bring down a foe isn't invalid merely for the preference of those who like fisticuffs and such. But you know this as well as I.
>if the tail wasn't the weakpoint
But it is. And Gohan didn't train it. Or his Oozaru. So he passes out from losing that form giving Vegeta the KO victory.
NOTE: Clumsy of Vegeta to keep his tail wrapped all that time only to start letting it hang loose when transformed. AT, pls.
>Work in the industry
>speak the truth
>get ignored by fanboys claiming you're lying
This is why I prefer to side with Toyochads and OPbros.
what High Tension level is that?
>still smashed
Still not KO'd while his foe is. Ain't pretty, but it suffices. Sort of like Krillin getting a win just by being there. If Vegeta were slower and/or the others faster, perhaps Chi-Chi could have been the one to defeat him (and get that kiss), eh?
>who had the higher power level
Oozaru Gohan. Vegeta chopped him down to size. As before, his Power Ball created that situation. A generic move got him back out of it. Just not entirely with the results he would have wanted. Maybe a not the best trade (perhaps he could have tried one more evade through the legs as the dumb brute hopped at him). Still not sure why he acts like he can't just take out the Power Ball (nothing stated about its duration lasting after destruction where that isn't how the real thing was).
>mini-games
Hmmm, yes. What's all this now?
>made to flee
Not owed to the tail cut alone. He wasn't KO'd by it (which is what was in question). SB got to land. He kept going. Got slashed. Fought on. Got smashed. That about did it. What hurt the most? Power Ball.
>lost to remaining fighters
>fighters
>s
Krillin is just one Chestnut. Yajirobe still needed more time to recover (too slow to stop the retreat, but I can understand just cutting losses and celebrating there). The 'back-up' hadn't arrived yet. Gohan was out cold. Goku was still a cripple in need of medical help (talking like he was about to die if not treated, which makes sense given the severity of the damage being so insane shy of a giant hole in the torso). Krillin being able to still hobble over was exactly all it took (and all there was with the time they had before he was to get away). Not that it mattered much. A "promise" was to be made.
>Taken away by Vegeta's attack, yes
Irrelevant to whether or not Gohan is exactly the same as in his Oozaru form
>Probably having just operated along the same lines with Gohan
So fallacious head canon?
Skip
>It isn't.
So, 1k+ x10 is not the same as 10k+?
The only thing you showed was that they're both above 10k.
If you have to make a formula and then have to explain that I wasn't to take that formula seriously, you shouldn't have posted that formula. I understand that wanted to copy me, but I don't fuck up that badly, cuck.
>Just not sure why you admitted it
I'm not a pathetic cuck who has to lie on the internet to make myself feel better. I actually like the pursuit of truth. Again, you might fit in more with the retards in the other thread.
>all the while posting a picture of Vegeta
I'm a Godlyfag, I could care less about Vegina, Cucku and Cuckhan
> Get some lewds of his grand-daughter
HOLY SHIT, YOU'RE SO COOL. PLEASE BE MY FRIEND ON FACEBOOK
>Indeed, I'd even go along with the talk of Kamehameha (as the Raditz fight showed) for Masenko contributing to that reading
Combine that with a rage boost and you can understand why his pl reached that high of an number.
Though, Cuckhan was able to go from pl 1 to 1500 when he attacked Radditz.
It's when he taps into his full potential, BUT we know that it isn't normal, because pre-potential unlocked Gohan was not as strong post-potential unlocked Gohan.
So, we know that the Oozaru transformation does not make use of his full potential or else there wouldn't have been anybody able to stop him. Cutting his tail would have been like Krillin throwing a destructo disc at Perfect Cell.
>Not really smart, but fine.
none of the transformations use the fighters' full potential. They multiply the pl the fighter has at that moment.
Gohan's pl wasn't 2500 when he transformed. Which means that you have to multiply 910 by 10.
Cope, Seethe, Kneel and Concede, pet
Is that to say you're changing the rules now that your challenge has been so easily bested? No more 'Easy Mode'? Time for 'Normal'?
>deflecting
You never had a single thing on me. Time to go back to your room, break time in the asyalum is over.
>You keep saying that
Gohan: 910 x 10 OR Vegeta: 18.000
That's why I keep saying that.
>Vegeta wasn't insta-killing everyone therefore he must have been weaker than everyone or whatever gibberish you're implying.
What's next? "They weren't planet-level in DBZ, because I never saw them destroy a planet?" And yes, he was tired and beaten, lost an eye, etc. Though, it's irrelevant to whether or not Vegeta was stronger than oozaru Gohan.
>Vegeta would only need to be about the same as a Saibamen
Irrelevant when the canon and licensed material have already established who's stronger.
>The power is owed to being a mutt.
WTF do you think "hybrid-status" is?
>wasn't that
Not by the point in question. I'm not looking to build his legend. Just reporting things as they are. Vegetto got them in, Vegeta found the pods, each of them took a few down and when down to just Super Buu...Vegeta pulled the plug on his 'self' (defeating Super Buu without having ever needed to throw a punch at him and while massively lower in PL).
NOTE: Were you not going to go on about how Vegeta is stronger than Super Buu? Did that jest get dropped?
>can't continue when
And? I'll give you a hint. Goku has qualified more than once. In their first fight, Goku was reduced to this . Bulma has something to say about it if you would like to have a listen. Can you guess how this pertains to being unable to continue?
>I'm not pretending
Why lie? No matter.
>an adaptation is canon
It isn't.
>embed includes scenes that never happened and dialogue that isn't accurate
>bit is Vegeta saying he saw Goku had a PL edge
>uses Babidi to close the gap
>then comes talk of emotions as an additional
>'only about emotions'
>doesn't actually work
Even Gokek figured this out, so we can safely discard this as another of your giggles.
>still on about 'inb4'
Would you have preferred going all-in with the format for "inb4copethatitwasntthedeathofBuujustoneversionofhim"? Were there less being said, that is what I would have gone for, as it happens.
NOTE: But you're speaking as if it was an invitation to do so (which you are quite welcome to, so don't feel like I'm refusing that option) rather than calling future responses to that which was in question 'copes'. I wasn't telling someone to do so, I was merely noting my expectation for precisely that to happen (and daring it with the expectation noted).
Based.
>other thread isn't at bump limit
>jobgetafag already moved to this thread
Nice that you recognize the superiority of the MC.
>provide evidence
Of what? Use your words, lad. I've used mine, but it seems like you just want pictures, JJ. Got the dosh for it?
>You from stating
Consider revision.
>this
Got a problem?
>Buuhan jobbed to Vegeta
I'd love to just take that, but AT did not will it so. Alas, the one brought down by Vegeta was Super Buu. You can argue Buuhan is just Super Buu with absorbed qualities. If you choose to view it otherwise (each their own person), that leaves us with Goku taking out Buuhan being that he freed Gohan from the pod. He took down Piccolo, as well. Vegeta got the boys (and Mr. Boo). Vegeta got the first pod (Trunks) which came right on time to interrupt a planet busting attack (would stop Kid's first not long after this while Goku just gawks). Goku got the last (prior to Super Buu's identity death from Mr. Boo) to end Buucolo. Ultimately, Super Buu was who was in question. He was taken out by the much weaker Vegeta. Simple stuff.
> I DONT WANT TO KISS YOU FUCKING MANLET !
*DO
Anime is riddled with bad choices. What the fuck were all those screenwriters thinking.
Toriyama is a hack
No need to fix it.
Fanfic.
Whoops, wrong pic
>The gap you describe of 900 units is plenty.
18.000 - (910 x 10) = not 900
I understand your concern, but I am not obliged nor qualified to answer it because the canon lore hasn't answered it.
>Who says it has to be for a defeat?
You're allowed to quote the entire sentence you're replying to. It's much easier.
"Does the stronger fighter always win?"
Yajirobi can't defeat Vegeta.
Vegeta defeated Gohan
KK Goku + enraged Gohan + Spirit bomb + Yajirobi defeated Vegeta.
Yeah, the stronger opposing power always wins.
>But it is!
And I wrote about what would have happened if it wasn't
>Oozaru Gohan.
WRONG, Oozaru Vegeta would then be the correct answer
>lost to remaining fighters
He did though
> Were you not going to go on about how Vegeta is stronger than Super Buu?
You said that Vegeta made Super Buu fall to his knees and proceded to posts events of Buuhan. I ask you evidence for the former claim and you still not provided that scan.
>And?
I was showing that "being unable to continue" which you wanted to add to my list is the consequence of the three ways one can experience defeat and therefore shouldn't be added to the list, cuck
>It isn't.
>Anime follows the canon to a tee just like the manga.
>Can't be counted as canon
Sasuga, retard-kun?
>>uses Babidi to close the gap
>Hears Vegeta talking about how his family wasn't making him happy and that he wanted Babidi to take away these emotions
>Hears Goku say that Vegeta had a little increase in strength
>Thinks that it means that Babidi gave him a power up and not that eliminating his emotions made him a bit stronger.
Nande, cuck-chan?
>Would you have preferred going all-in
To go all in
>IESLB Spic talk
>Mexican autism
Yikes!
>NOTE:
>Irrelevant spic talk
Skip
It's called fantart, not fanfic user.
Chichi is not a cuck!
>The absolute state of monkeyfags
One genocide wasn't enough
He's not even top three of his universe
>Whis
>Broly
>Merus
>Beerus
>Freeza
>Buu
>Roshi
>vagita and cuckoo
Yeah, you're right. Or more accurately, a fanart based on a fanfiction.
He surpasses all of those in power except whis, beerus and broly.
>I've used mine, but it seem
You've used waaay too much words.
>>provide evidence
>Post a single panel in which none of the other characters are visible
You don't mind if this goes in the bin, right?
>IESLB thinks that omitting a word is the same as being IESLB
If you were to revise your posts you'd have been stuck to your screen for days.
>Got a problem?
>Juvenile spic talk
Rest of post is automatically discarded.
I got to be hard on you spics or you'll apparently never learn
Fugging based
May i ask what is fanfiction is that and of what it is about?
Delusional
>May i ask what is fanfiction is that and of what it is about?
Goku kissing Chichi
Cuckquean
Can you refute that?
>accepts GG's superiority
"So naturally." - Best Slave
>take issue with wording
Did it so upset you that "Is" was dropped from the start? Not familiar with this manner of speech? What say you? Is the construction not to your liking? I so graciously keep a shit topic propped up (with still nobody to be found) while humoring all these false stances...But I won't ask for (well deserved) thanks. Just properly etch gratitude into your 'heart' (so to speak), won't you?
NOTE: Seriously, you should be honored to have one so great as I as your dancing partner in this stage performance. Just carrying you through having a successful topic (with respect to not just dying out right away, anyway) even as you keep clumsily stepping on my nice dress shoes.
>show useless and irrelevant tidbits
Yeah. Non-canon. I would say I'm sorry, but I'm not (and don't really care for apologies). Have you emailed AT? When you do, ask him when Vegeta is going to put his vassal down for good. With Super, it seems more imperative than ever.
>humor
What part of that gave the impression I was joking?
>do not imply
I stated Vegeta as being weaker where Super Buu and Gohan were concerned.
>used his brains for once
>repeatedly
I see.
>never had a problem with fighting dirty in the past
He also never bothered when at an advantage.
>made the same mistake as Goku
And you mistook the meaning (evidently). Your mistake is duly noted.
Contrary to what most people think, goku NOT kissing chichi is the fanfiction.
I just don't know anymore
This saga just gets weirder and weirder with each episode
That's why the buu arc is based.
>showed Zarbon started at full power
While I showed he was taking Vegeta lightly (guard down and not remembering zenkai). Our Prince noticed this. Owed to that carelessness, Vegeta applied Pocket Sand to the eyes of the fugly lizard to further open him up in a brutal opener (dropping his PL). Were he already stronger than Zarbon, there would be no need for such behavior. It isn't like the guy has some other ace up his sleeve. Just the matter of strength. Vegeta must not have liked the idea of risking a prolonged battle while another fighter (weaker though Krillin certainly is) could intervene (or just run away as he tried to do only to get caught). Where it is clearly the case that Gohan and Super Buu had the power advantage, Zarbon here is guess work. No canon resource just giving either of his PLs (more is the pity).
>Goku mistake
Gokek believed Vegeta's lies (Cui tried this with Vegeta). Again. Retardku was naive enough to open himself up. Imagine his doctor's shame. He must realize where Gotenks got it from.
>not stronger than the Ginyu
At the start.
>but able to beat one of them anyway
At least one, yes. Would have to pull some serious shit with the remainder (certainly didn't manage that in canon). After that zenkai? Easy money for the lot of them save Ginyu (using 'change').
>your point is that Vegeta can beat foes with higher PLs and you were merely kidding earlier
Yes, yes. No need to clarify.
>I didn't consider my surroundings
Classic oversight. Do be more careful.
Even worse. Chichi is none of that.
Bills is _________
For making fun of.
>accepts GG's superiority
Spic logic
>Please notice me, senpai
Discarded
>Gloating about the fact that it considers me its dance partner
Cute
>Licensed works, staff-members
>Irrelevant
Yikes!
>What part of that gave the impression I was joking?
Isn't it obvious? You ARE the joke
>Part of the conversation is about Zarbon, thinks it's about Cuckhan and Super doodoo
Skip
>I see
I see no argument. Cope
>>Vegeta had no problem with fighting dirty
>He also never bothered when at an advantage.
Are you forgetting that Vegeta was a complete sadist to most of his opponents or are you implying that that isn't dirty?
Cope
>And you mistook the meaning (evidently). Your mistake is duly noted.
If so, I can only blame you for not being clearer.
Also, you wasted that comment by not stating what you meant instead and I'm not going to ask
>No denying that you're a girl
Neat
>While I showed he was taking Vegeta lightly (guard down and not remembering zenkai)
Disproved by the fact that Zarbon transformed immediately.
> Vegeta applied Pocket Sand to the eyes of the fugly lizard
He has tormented weaker opponents before
>Were he....Vegeta must not have liked....
Head canon
>Where it is clearly the case that Gohan
Oozaru Vegeta > Oozaru Gohan
>Super Buu had the power advantage
You haven't posted the page yet
>Cui tried this with Vegeta
And he paid with his life
Nowhere did it say that Vegeta believed him
So, it's nott the same and how did we go from Zarbon to Cui? WTF?
>defeating one Ginyu is the same as defeating the Ginyu force
>Still defending this retarded position
Yikes!
>Classic oversight.
I accept your concession
>whether or not
There is no question (merely a farce you persist with in an attempt to stay afloat in competition with a thread that long ago reached the point it should be ending).
>head canon
>applied to accusing you of being the same goof who likes to say Oozaru Vegeta is not Vegeta
>in response to your having said Oozaru Gohan is not Gohan
It doesn't really relate, does it?
>skip
Probably better to just run from that one (like Goku from 2-0 with Vegeta hot on his trail).
>I didn't understand
You best have another pass (as many as it takes).
>formula
The only formula you need to know is that Vegeta and Goku makes for another free win for our Prince. Just how it adds up.
>not a cuck
>just a fag for Goku
I don't recall Nu-Broly swinging that way. This from your private collection?
>could care less
Yes, I'm sure.
>so cool
Thanks, fella.
>Kikebook
Nah.
>argues for why Gohan could get a high PL
>when his position is that Gohan was weaker than Vegeta when the latter won
Thanks?
>doesn't make full use
It doesn't have to (and that's just letting you have that head canon uncontested). You already denoted the obvious low-ball PL for the Oozaru that the much weaker Vegeta took out.
>nobody could stop him
>tails keep jobbing to much lower PL attacks
>destruction of the Power Ball still an option
What did he mean by this?
>would have been like some filler scene
>humoring a special name for a generic move
Shameful. Sometimes you can take a joke too far.
>transformations all multiply
You say this based on what? Oozaru has canon. You still yucking it up with Daizshit again? We've been over this.
>at the moment
You think that's an absolute? Like you would just transform while cross and using an attack modifier while staring at the moon...You're suggesting he keeps this as he goes berserk, but if he were holding back as he transforms, he would just be super lacking? Is that what you wish to put forward?
It's French but yeah. Basically islamic.
underrated post.
>other than the things you had on me there was nothing
Okay.
>910
How do you know that's what he was at? He got beat up and was in a resting state. Doesn't your theory have problems with that suggestion? Not that it matters.
>18K
You've been saying he got worked down to 10K with no canon backing the talk. Also, you mentioned a random 21K (still not explained).
>he was tired
>but it isn't relevant to Oozaru Gohan being stronger up until he got shot down
Especially amusing that Gohan even got a surprise blow to the back of his head, but it hardly did a thing. Vegeta is a Hell of a guy.
>canon establishes who is stronger
True, Vegeta was weaker (as he feared while trying very hard to prevent and then end the state with clearly seen trepidation at Krillin redirecting the child his way). Didn't stop him against such an unworthy foe with such an exploitable weakness.
>what is hybrid status
Being a mutt (not implying all of them have rage boosts as a factor when canon doesn't reflect that).
>the MC
What about him?
they both are. they belong together
>posts a smug image that ends with Goku getting utterly fucking embarrassed
>82 IPs in the GENIUSgeta thread
>56 IPs in the SAMEFAGku thread
Kek
Could you post the panels with Vegeta killing Gokek?
If only Gero hadn't fucked over his bug. Should have done had this option.
*Should have had
Oh no, how careless. I guess I'll post the other version, too.
>the retarded spic is here
Note the filename and ignore.
Oh, my. Another error? Guess I'll just have to get it right the third time. Still better than Cell who just kept using a shit move (until it got him killed).
>There is no question
Read the chain again
>thread that long ago reached the point it should be ending
And yet, here you are desperately trying to keep the thread alive.
>applied to accusing you
Accusations caused by head canon
>It doesn't really relate, does it?
Saying that X "probably" operated like Gohan and basing you argument on that means that you're arguing from head canon.
I don't care about probabilities, because this isn't quantum mechanics. Keep it to the facts, young cuck
>Goku from 2-0 with Vegeta hot on his trail
I'm neither a Gocuckfag nor a Veginafag, so that comment is completely irrelevant.
>I didn't understand
I know you didn't
>>The only formula you need to know is ...
>Fails to provide a formula
Nani, cuck-chan?
>>fag for Goku
>Go in thread
>Attack cuckhanposter
>Gocuckfag (that's you) starts being an attentionwhore
>Now I'm a Gocuckfag
Yikes!
>Yes, I'm sure
Good, pet
>Implying he's not following his Mexican DB fanfiction writers on Facebook
You don't have to lie on an anonymous board, Cuckon
>>The highest power always wins
>Gokekfag claims that oozaru Gohan was stronger than Vegeta
>Provide evidence to the contrary
>Mention all the boosts Gohan had pre-Namek
>Still not more power than Vegeta
>Succesfully defended my position as you just admitted
>"Thanks?"
If you mean "thanks for the lessons" then you're welcome, Gopetfag
>It doesn't have to
You don't know that. The only thing you know (and I've showed) is that it never happened.
>What did he mean by this?
No explanation in the canon lore was given and I'm not going to follow you into head canon territory
>You say this based on what?
on the fact that all the transformation pre-Namek did exactly that
>Let my lack of knowledge be driving force behind my position
Cope
>He got beat up and was in a resting state
Are you implying that he was weaker? 910 is the canon level in resting state, 2500 when he fired the Masenko and not before or after.
>not filtering
>is here
>implying I've only just now arrived
>he thinks anyone will take the time to read his literal wall of sperging, drooling autism
>implying there is any filter for my girth
>he knew who I was talking about just from me saying "the retarded spic"
Is that how all Vegetafags think of themselves?
That's right, flee, my pet. Flee.
>filename
Speaking of which...
>n-no it's j-just because you said filename...
Kek. Cope, Mexican filth.
This character existence mindbroke a person. How does he do it?
It isn't overly difficult to mindbreak a common dog.
>You've been saying he got worked down to 10K
you started out by saying that Vegeta started out with a pl of 9000 and I never corrected it.
>but it isn't relevant to Oozaru Gohan
And that is irrelevant to your question about why Vegeta wasn't insta-killing everyone, derail-chan
>True, Vegeta was weaker
His power was less than the combined power the z-warriors had available
Your nonsense about Saibamen is irrelevant to that claim.
You might want to read up on what the comments you're replying to were replying to, because you've made that mistake three times in a row.
>Being a mutt
Now you know that you made the same argument as I did, despite calling mine wrong, cuck.
>not implying all of them have rage boosts as a factor when canon doesn't reflect that
>Vegeta says that Gohan is stronger, because his human emotions are so vivd
>"The canon doesn't reflect it"
That's your interpretation of the events.
Fact is that Gohans hybrid status makes him get rage boosts a lot quicker.
Cope
Enter CHADhuh.
HOLY BASED!
You haven't been paying attention to the thread haven't you, little cuck?
We've doing nothing but replying to literal walls of texts.
Fun fact: That one is one of the walls with the least characters, but spaced in a way that it looks like a huge read
Now kneel, pet
>B-B-BUT
Shut the fuck up. You don't post without my permission, dog, you fucking hear me?
Did you have a favorite character who was sidelined?
>More autistic screeching
Yikes!
Nope. Goku was always at the top.
>ESL
HOLY BASED
>liking the fujobait kai
EXIT HUH.
Enter HumanForce.
>IESLB
Discarded.
who's your favorite GoD tier character? for me, it's kefla
Enter CANONdrat
Gohan
F... For me, it's Huh.
>dude i love broly! haha he was weaker than base vegeta but now he's stronger than jiren xdd
>NOOOOOOOO KEFLA CANT BE UI OMEN TIER NO NO NOOOO NO REEEEEEEEEEE
why is the db fanbase so pathetic?
CHADly.
Post an actual GoD-tier character next time.
RENCHAD THE ENCHAD
>stronger than "GoD" Toppo and SSBE = SSBKK vegeta
>not GoD tier
?
based
UI is not a power-up though.
FUCKING JIRENFAG !!
COME HERE ! COME TO INDIA !!
>muh non-canon spicfiction anime Kefla
Discarded, dog, discarded.
>mary sue
Go back
>loses argument
>BUH BUHUHUH GOKU LOST IN THAT IMAGE BUHUHUHUH
not even a big DBZ person, these threads are really funny for me and help pass the time. you seem like you're coping pretty hard friend.
ENCHAD
RENCHAD
>mary sue
>loses to the main character
?
>muh interwebz argyoomen
There was no argument, just you being a sperging cuck, like 99% of the other posters in these cesspool threads.
>9.1K is not 900 less than 10K
>Blacks jobbing to Math
Moving along, then.
>quote
Cute.
>exceptions already offered up
>still trying
To what end?
>it is about teams
Too bad Gokek was already defeated (and soundly, at that). Along with the rest save Krillin, as it happens. While true the little guy got KO'd early on, he got his act together and snagged his 1-1. Or do you wish to deny him what is his by rights (like that faggot Goku with the kill over some promise he was never going to be able to deliver on even if he wanted to).
NOTE: How did you list everyone except the person who got the win over the main villain? You could have even (correctly) given credit to Piccolo (he did more than Goku, arguably). Ridiculous.
>I didn't finish my sentence
And? You rarely do outside questions. Or was there more to add?
>transformed states are different people
Big fan of your own running gag, eh?
>events of Buuhan
>who is Super Buu as he only becomes concerned with identity death when Mr. Boo is being freed
>is just Super Buu when Vegeta puts down the gumball
Quick question:
Ahh status quo maintained, CHADgeta thread successfully reached bump limit while this beta loser thread was rotting under its own self-bumps with 12 posters 80 replies.
Fuckig K E K
I suppose this qualifies as an official 3-0 for the prince.
this is literally my first time posting in this shithole of a thread. imagine seething this hard because someone said something you don't like on the internet. calm down there pajeet. I know the saang paneer burned your asshole but you don't need to be THIS assblasted about DB lmao.
He said GoD tier. Jiren is basically angel tier.
>saang paneer
>IESLB
Discarded.
>lowballing CHADchad cha CHAD like that
Jiren is literally the reason Zeno and EGP damage-controlled with "m-muh morality test h-haha". Jiren's power exists on the quantum level and Zeno realized he couldn't keep him deleted for much longer, but they didn't want to appear weak.
Do you know where you are?
kek ok, thanks for the laughs user. hers another (you)
Does reporting even do anything anymore?
>hers another
>more IESLB
Acquire laconic acumen before posting in this den of wit and wonderment again, you vituperative drudgeon.
This sound theory CANNOT be refuted.
not from what I gather lol
bros... there was a Yardrat in the manga already.. and he used the filler Toei design..
it's all over bros..
Cope
Jokes on you, I wouldn't be surprised if Toriyama forgot about DBO and told Toyotaro to make a new design for the yardrats
>n-no this is a Yardrat because...idk my headcanon says so SHUT UP
>trying to get based DBchads banned
Leave
>laconic
Acquire genuine diction, transgressive buffoon.
>I wouldn't be surprised if Toriyama forgot about DBO and told Toyotaro to make a new design for the yardrats
This is 100% how it's going to go
>can't comprehend my ocean of wisdom
As expected.
Yeah your shitposting is over, considering that's not even from the Super manga, it's from the promotional DBZ Revival of F manga Toyotaro did before the canon manga series. Not to mention that page is filled with references, you can even see someone of Ledgic's race
Nice try, tho, you can have this (You) before you kill yourself
>admitting the spicnga is promotional
BASED Pacospicofuckocuckohackotracertacotarofag!
I won as usual.
>O-OWAR- BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
>Uh oh! Someone did a stinkie!
>*audience laughs*
We had it so much better without you Jobrengeta trash
>Wake up naturally, no need for alarm on my king size bed
>Do 10 minutes of meditation, sometimes I feel like I'm levitating
>The two girls are still sleeping
>My dog gets out of his Pride Troopers themed kennel I built for him and greets me
>My Red and Black Pride Troopers hoodie I ordered is on the coathanger
>Turn 20k pc on, boots in under 10 seconds because of lastest SSD.
>Jiren as desktop background on 60 inch monitor
>Play youtube.com
>Girls wake up with a smile to the thundering sound of my industrial speakers
>Open my internet home, DBS Threads
>Chadrenposters dominating, as it is the custom
>Crack a smile, showing my pearly white teeth
>Don't need to click captchas because 20$ is literally nothing to me
Motherfucking BASED
ENCHAD CHADCHAD
>toeipaco can't read basic english
The DBZ Revival of F manga is a promotional manga for the DBZ movie. The DBS manga is a canon series based on the original outline Toriyama makes.
Cope.
>CHADren and CHADgeta
God can you imagine the level of based? If they liked CHADhan too then their IQ would reach the 500s.
>Shitrendogs and Cuckgetaspics have arrived
Previously comfy thread ruined.
>N-NO THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT
Kek. Writhe, little taco.
CEASE this task consisting of perfunctorily stringing random words together to feign sophistication, jester, AT ONCE.
It was good while it lasted.
Toyopacotacofuckobros... My ToeiCHAD friend just sent me this.. W-What do I say?? Are we really over...????
>Not to mention that page is filled with references,
Oh, you mean quite literally like the Super manga? Stupid weasel.
>unrelated
>kanzenshit
I won.
>P-PLEASE STOP OH MY GOD YOUR CEREBELLUM IS TOO POWERFUL IF YOU KEEP GOING I-I'LL...
QUIET, wretch.
based jirenschloar
>mindbroken
>still avoiding an obvious condition like TKO
Allow Gokek to demonstrate.
>anime and manga
>Super
>canon
It is possible to take a joke too far.
>citing anime dub
To what end (you know better)? I already saved your topic, ended the other and humored the nonsense long enough for others to consider using this place.
>concedes
That's probably for the best.
if this thing throws a kamehameha i'm fuckin' done
>Juan thinks I changed what I said just because I repeated it
>Juan also thinks a fansite's guess holds more weight than what official media says
You are done.
Use this one fellow mangachad
Holy shit, Krillin looks really angry.
Or this one
>implying AT is a fan of either, their pairing or DB
Based
TOYOCHADS! TOYOCHADS!!!! WHAT THE FUCK...WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK IS THIS?!?!?!
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
majin 21 (kefla absorbed)
Super isn't canon
>10k despite the fact that it literally said 18k in the comment you were replying to
Yikes!
>Exception has been refuted
>B-b-but it still counts
Cope
>it is about teams
Their combined effort took Vegeta down.
Cope
>You could have even (correctly) given credit to Piccolo (he did more than Goku, arguably)
Piccolo never fought Vegeta.
Cope
>More baseless assertions
Cope
>transformed states are different people
Never stated that. I asked you if Cuckhan or Vegeta was stronger was stronger. You replied with "Oozaru Gohan" and I correctly replied that Oozaru Vegeta was stronger
Cope
It's really just still Buu. He has a couple of fighters absorbed, but it's still Buu and the only reason they defeated Buu in the end was because the power of the spirit bomb was bigger than Buu's.
The greater power always wins.
Cope.
>Gibberish
Skip
>>Posts an video clip from Dragon Ball Kai
>D-dragon S-super i-i-is not c-c-canon
Cope
>To what end (you know better)?
Did you prove that the dialogue in the Japanese manga or Kai anime is any different?
No, you haven't.
Your whimpering is therefore discarded
>sub 20 IQ spic thinks that refutations are the same as conceding
Yikes!
Based.
>the toeiturd is having another meltdown
>anime
Discarded
Thank you. Nice to see more people recognizing the greatness of the manga
>T-T-T-Toeichad-sama?!?! I KNEEL
He really doesn't like huh. Poor guy...
>gave upon on almost all fronts
You lack stamina much like the Gilded Lizard.
>sadism means underhanded fighting
You what? Are you implying it is?
>can only blame teacher
No responsibility for your faults? Zoomer, please.
>disproved Transformed Zarbon taking Vegeta lightly by not addressing it
Well played.
>this was just torment
How did you want to make out your concession? I hope you don't think posting some ugly slag will cut it as a prize.
>Oozaru Vegeta fought and defeated Oozaru Gohan
I see. Post the scans, please.
>the page with Super Buu having an advantage in power over Vegeta
Every panel is exactly that (not that it saved him).
NOTE: Power couldn't save Gokek, either. Had he used SS3, he would just job to it as with KKx4 in the past. Just the worst, this MC.
>paid with his life
It was attempted against Vegeta, so you should expect antics like this to have lackluster results. Against Retardku? Different story.
>killing
What would that be necessary for? That some scrub win condition you're invoking? Nice of Vegeta to not do one worse (deleting his vassal). Such a kind master to his pet.
>He really doesn't like huh. Poor guy...
Maybe huh deserved it?
I was just asking. I want to see it.
What would huh do to deserve something like that? Putting aside that huh is an alien invader and that krilin really hates them thanks to another one.
Toyocucks are relegated to pretending they like Merus sue and to wait until a newfag asks a question to jump him and brainwash him with toyoshittery.
Toeichads truly won the war.
i'm surprised this isn't a disney land ride somewhere in tokyo
Toyochads...what??? WHAT?!?!?!?!
>read the chain again
Good advice. Try it.
>trying to keep it alive
>try
"Do", rather. Finished the other off, too. You're welcome (again).
>head canon
Correct. Your belief about Oozaru being different entities from those that transform into them. That is head canon.
>keep it to the facts
I have since the start. 2-0, for instance.
>multi-greater than for no clear reason
How queer.
>no, you are the Retardku
I don't know about all that, but Vegeta is undefeated against Goku.
>ever uses social networking
Let us not kid ourselves. You do. I'm just a rare exception.
>evidence to the contrary
That's what I did, yes. You gave up, so I figured you moved on.
>don't know that Vegeta was weaker than Oozaru Gohan, but took him out anyway
We do. We've been over this (as with Super Buu and even Zarbon).
>based on head canon
Daizfags.
>implying he was weaker
>note he was beat up and actually barely conscious
Yeah. That is a possibility. Not that it matters (even as I generously help you make a case). Gohan was clearly felt by Vegeta as too strong to take on directly, so he put a stop to the monkey business.
He didn't flee so good...
heh, forgot that happened
>mindbroke a person
Poor Chi-Chi.
TOYOCHADS !! TOYOCHADS !!!!
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ??
9 MAY ?? IT'S ... IT'S BACK ???
NOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!
>You lack stamina much like the Gilded Lizard
Watch your tone, pet
> Are you implying it is?
Torturing your opponent on the battlefield, keeping him alive so you can torture him more? Yes, we call that an underhanded way of fighting and throwing sand in someones face is really just a part of that arsenal
>disproved Transformed Zarbon taking Vegeta lightly by not addressing it
That was your claim and I have refuted it multiple times
>this was just torment
I accept your concession
>I see.
No, you don't.
I literally asked you:"Is Gohan stronger or Vegeta?" and you answered with Oozaru Gohan. Well, if you can use oozaru forms to answer my question, I can add Oozaru forms as well and Vegeta's Oozaru form has more power than Cuckhan.
You lost the game and you failed to realize it.
Cope.
>Super Buu
See my last post
> Power couldn't save Gokek
>implying the Spirit bomb isn't power
Sasuga, Gokekfag?
>so you should expect antics like this to have lackluster results
Oookay..So, how did Vegeta make the same mistake as Goku when Cui obviously failed?
Goku got tricked and lost each time
Your logic (or lack thereof) is too spiccish
MARK UPLOADED ANOTHER VIDEO LADS
Who ?
>been saying
I haven't. Still waiting on that 21K explanation. Guess you're just going to dodge that like Gokek with 3-0. Found a little brown boy for the retreat?
>concedes all ground
Thanks for playing?
>you're replying to were replying to
You drunk, ESLku?
>can't see the difference
Brain damage like your boy, is it? Probably Vegeta's fault (again).
>because emotions
>with all hybrids
>canon
You having a laugh here?
That would be me.
>we have doing nothing
FLANDERIZED
>Spic talk
>Spic talk
>Concession
>Irrelevant Spic talk
>Queer talk
>Spic talk
>Juvenile Spic talk
>Spic talk
>Refuted Spic talk
>Refuted Spic talk
>Concession
Yikes!
To be fair, Goku tends to be losing in whatever image one uses. Options get very limited if you're fretting over it.
>Shilling his own videos
Marky....
To be expected.
I was waiting for you to post that one. You have a lot of shitpost material but this one is the most pathetic one, never fails making me laugh
>almost entire topic is Vegeta dunking on Gokek
>balls all over his face
At least the actual character would be happy, but his fans?... Take it from the humans.
literally fucking kill yourself IRL
COPE !! COPE !!!!!!
Have sex.
Toyochads I thought...I thought Toyo was Toriyama's chosen successor...WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?!?!!?!
>give me a manga version of a jobber form being shit on
Spoiled brats.
That was easy.
>I haven't
Read from here I was making fun of your shitty formula and then proved that your 10k+ and (1k+ x 10) were completely nonsensical.
Cope
>>Still waiting on that 21K explanation.
>Still waiting on OP to deliver
You must be new here
>>Guess you're just going to dodge that like Gokek with 3-0
>Gocuckfag uses 2 - 0 as if that holds any meaning to a Godlychad
Cope
>Found a little brown boy?
Gocuckfag exposes itself as a pedophile.
Yikes!
>you're replying to were replying to
Yes, you might want to look at what the comments you were replying to were replying to
>Probably Vegeta's fault (again)
Broly pounded Gocuck and Vegina like a newbie on the casting couch, cuck
>I DON'T SEE ALL THE HYBRIDS GETTING RAGEBOOSTS AND THAT'S WHY THE CANON STATEMENTS ABOUT HYBRID SAIYANS AND THEIR EMOTIONS DO NOT COUNT
Cope
I like you.
>Gocuckfag posts image of Gocuck admitting defeat
I accept your concession
>waifushit
I. Did. NOT. Read.
The other one, i mean.
>reward more hideous than the last
Not even able to Kawaii and lost to Rice. A damned chimplet, too.
>we
Who?
>call sadism underhanded
By all means, explain yourself.
>haven't refuted it
I noticed.
>can add Oozaru, too
Not in relevant fashion, no.
>last post
Giving up? So soon? Channeling your inner Gokek, I see.
>isn't power
You going to imply it is Goku's? Or that it even won the fight?
>Goku got tricked and lost
He's an idiot.
>mad
But why?
>manga
>jobber form
Kek
>form unable to get the win in debut
Typical. For Goku, at least.
You'll have to be more specific.
DILATE
>prince seething
Damn, so even if he wins he still has goku rent free in his head. That's a psychological victory for goku.
Do you think Cabba will get 2-0 soon (to match his master's streak against Gokek)?
>gets literally one shot out of UI
KEK.
The one where he launches a ki attack to goku and the place explodes.
>one shot
Kek. Cope harder.
>I couldn't keep up
You tried?
>gave up on 21K
Just confirming it.
>holds any meaning to Nu-Broly
Does Nu-Broly hold meaning to begin with? Like I was saying, Gokek should probably hurry up and just let 3-0 happen. Get it over with like a shot.
>Gokek is a pedo
You're only just now noticing?
>Broly
He hasn't been in anything of note in years. What are you on about?
>canon doesn't support me so I'll just run away
Frieza teach you that? Maybe consider blowing up the planet as you go.
Got a few like that (though most are unfinished). Think you mean this one.
Hell of a thing lacking a challenge. Had to find purpose in family.
I. Forgot. To. Care.
>lost to Rice
>Using Toyotaco's retarded scaling that was refuted here
Spics, when will they learn?
>Who?
Us
>By all means, explain yourself
Are you implying that people who use underhanded tactics aren't exhibiting sadistic behavior?
>Not in relevant fashion, no.
Equally relevant as your addition of Oozaru to my question.
So, you've just admitted that your answer was irrelevant to the question
Kneel
>You going to imply it is Goku's?
>Moving the goalpost
You said that power was unable to aid Goku in his battle against Buu even though he defeated Buu after he had collected enough power to form a spirit bomb.
Cope
>Or that it even won the fight?
>The Spirit bomb didn't end buu
Cope
>He's an idiot.
Irrelevant, but it is one thing the two of you have in common
I don't know user. Caulifla seems to be stronger
Show me where he gets hit besides that hit that almost ringed him out if not for Bejita.
Yeah, is this one. And how do you make them?
Chadchad Chad CHAD.
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Chadchad Chad CHAD.
You mean shitren? Already posted. If you mean goku, he was literally never hurt by jiren in UI.
>UI is not a power up in the manga
>*panel where they say the whole place is shaking*
Ha.
>didn't post it
I won.
>revisionism
Why is it so hard to have an unbiased conversation with spics?
>didn't even read the thing
Bad dog. Out.
>You tried?
Spic talk
>gave up on 21K
Head canon
>Does Nu-Broly hold meaning to begin with?
Besides the fact that he's canonically stronger than SS Gogeta?
Yes, yes he does. Even the manga stated that the movie is canon, so COPE.
>Gokek is a pedo
I said Gocuckfag (you), I wasn't talking about Gocuck, strawfag
>He hasn't been in anything of note in years.
The movie hasn't even been out for years
Cope
>Frieza teach you that? Maybe consider blowing up the planet as you go.
They should blow up whichever spic area you're currently residing in
>posts a different form
>blocked hit
I predicted this holy shit. You retards are so basic.
Except it's not different, it's UI, but before completing it
And it's not a form
And a blocked hit is still a hit
You lost (again).
Ah, vegeta finally is where he belongs.
>Toei kid
Switching between non-canon loving vermin, today.
>weasel word left vague
Right.
>are you implying all sadistic behaviors are underthanded tactics
That would be you.
>Oozaru are totally a different entity
Going to need a scan for that claim.
>unable to aid Gokek with Vegeta
True. Got stuffed like how Chi-Chi wishes her Prince would honor her.
>only common ground
You couldn't think of another angle to work? Maybe his being kissless? Amateur hour.
>Cauliflower
>stronger
Than who? She's weaker even than her lesbo MHA knock-off friend. Together they job to Gokek or Rice (take your pick of non-canon preference).
>couldn't refut what i said
Well well well, look at that! I won AGAIN!
You guys are all my friends.
>headcanon
See
Based Huh.
We love you too user!
shut the fuck up faggot
It varies. This one was almost no work. Just taking existing panels, adding a particular Vegeta in and giving it a filename. Very little work with cleaning it up, transparency, adding text, etc. Some of the others require more hunting for material. I don't want to do actual editing very frequently (too much time lost). WIP example (old now).
I like you a lot, user.
If the characters are in a "non canon" aspect of the "series". Then those characters are not, "canon" in that series.
shut the FUCK up
I love Toyocucks, I love Toeipoodles, I love Gocucks, I love Spicgetas, I love Shitrendogs, I love Copelycamels, I love Gohanpedos, I love waifufags, I love the 2-0 poster, I love the dogposter.
But fuck Huntercucks and moetrash
>reaching this hard
>coping this hard
HOLY BASED
>ceding ground previously not even known
Digging dip, I see.
>stronger than
Riveting. But back to what counts. 3-0, when?
>even the manga
Well, if only that meant something.
>I said Gokek is a pedo
And I agreed.
>the movie
Broly was in a movie?
>they
Who?
Based DBroSchad.
>non-canon
>Together they job to Gokek or Rice
>implying Cuckhan can defeat Golden freeza
>Nonsense
>IESLB
>Strawfag
>Strawfag
>Strawfag
The subject was Gocuck's fight against Buu
>Admitting the things he has in common with Gocuck are being retarded and kissless
Yikes! So, your boyfriend doesn't even kiss you? Double Yikes!
>An entire post filled with cringe
Yikes!
Very interesting. Thanks for telling me user!
>Implying
Based but you're still a fag
new thread
Why based?
...
>implying Jobza was in question
Try to keep up, tea bitch.
>all ground eroded
What will you do now?
>boyfriend
>Zammy
Makes sense.
>not even at 500 posts
I hate newspics so much
>they're having sex with my wife again
>Jobrengetatards containment thread
Wonderful
>one is a Copeku thread
>the other, a Shitren thread
Someone made an actual decent thread.
It is all fairly basic stuff. Even the search for the font (WhizBang Roman) wasn't much effort.
Thanks, fella.
Because Gokek is Vegeta's free win slut forever.
>implying otherwise
I'm making a Gohan thread
>not even 500 yet
Fuck off, dog.
Cope.
I suppose it is about that time.
KEK
>didn't negate he was a fag
Lol
>they're trying to make me have sex with my vassal's wife again
Would this be Gokek's first win over his master, Prince Bejita-sama?
The Jobgeta retard is a Jobrendog kek, how could a man get so low
Have sex.
>so low
I'll use anyone to my advantage. We've been over this.
Just try not to fall for your Prince. That is forbidden love.
vegeta wins again
Get kissed, fag
>again
He never once won in his life.
Deluded as always.
Muah*
God, Bulma is such a whore, is Bula even Vegeta's.
>i-its not different even though it is haha
Cry, retarded mong. Tardku got literally one shot out of UI.
Cope, spic. COPE FOR ME.
>no arguments
Another thread where I remain invictus.
>invictus
KEK fucking retard.
Aren't you agreeing? Both of you are fighting for nothing.