I must kill Jojo

>I must kill Jojo
>But he can move a little in my stopped time so I should stay out of range
>Should I use my eye lasers?
>Nah, let's chuck knives that for some reason hover in the air instead of connecting right away
Why did Dio not use any of his old powers in Stardust Crusaders?

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Same reason Joseph couldn't beat him even with his hamon.
Old shit lame, new shit rules.

>two projectiles instead of like a hundred
why would he use the eye beams?

Have the eye beams been deflected before? Seems to me that a weapon Star Platiunum can't block is very useful, especially if they just go straight through Jotaro's head before he can move in the stopped time.

Joseph deflected them with some glass cups in Part 2. Star Platinum is definitely fast enough to block them.

Araki forgot.

The glass cups were infused with hamon to counteract the vampiric energy. The lasers would have definitely killed Jotaro and pierced through any asspully comic books.
Also, can we talk about that? How the fuck would jotaro have the time to picture DIO throwing knives at him in stopped time for him to load himself up with comic books?

Don't think too hard about it.

How hard is hard enough?

My logic for why DIO couldn't use any vampire powers is because his body wasn't fully healed yet, so he couldn't use all his powers.

Interestingly Dio lost that fight because he wasn't aggressive enough. He was so concerned about not taking any chances when fighting a Joestar that he failed to take advantage properly. The moment he suspected that Jotaro could move briefly in frozen time he should have gone for the kill, aiming for a dual exchange. Even if he got hit he could probably recover, whereas Jotaro would have either died or been significantly weakened. Dio basically didn't trust in his own recovery ability, which is a strange thing for a vampire to do.

Also going for the roadroller at the end, while cool, was a huge waste of time. He knew he had a dominate timestop advantage at the point so he really should have just gone for an attack rush. Cool fight,but it really feels like Jotaro won because of plot.

>Watsonian reason
DIO was an arrogant prick, and also easily bored. He wanted to use his new powers, rather than ones that already lost him a battle

>Doylist reason
Araki forgot

>The lasers would have definitely killed Jotaro and pierced through any asspully comic books.
Except Star Platinum would block them? I just said that in the post you replied to. DIO's "eye lasers" are just a pressurized stream of fluid. All Star Platinum would need to do is hold his hands out and block the flow.

The only reason why Jotaro got hit by the knives was because DIO threw so many during the stopped time, Star Platinum couldn't block them all. He could easily block a measly two bursts of eye juice.

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thought he figured put dio's power after the clock time stop and then realised that dio would use ranged attacks rather than move in closer

DIO killed Joseph with a knife right in front of Jotaro, it's not that much of a stretch.

Where did he get the comic books? Where did he get the time to put them in his clothes?
Except you can't just block lasers. They would go through his hands/arms like they did to Jonathan

They aren't lasers. Are you not reading my posts?

Doesn't matter, the point was they went through Jonathan's hands before so they would have gone through Jotaro's stand's hands as well. Stop deflecting the question

But he used them in part 1 when he was just a head

Maybe Jonathan's hamon infused body is preventing him fron using the vampiric powers?

Bruh cum is coming out from his hand

I can't remember where he got the comic books from. It's been a while since I watched it

It does matter because that's exactly why it wouldn't work. It wouldn't go through the stand because stands can only be hurt by stands. The beam is just liquid, so it would be blocked.

If that were the case, how is Jonathan's body regenerating? It would just be bones.

I didn't know Jonathan was a stand

It's done entirely off panel. Dio hits Jotaro with a bunch of knives, Jotaro falls to the ground motionless, and then we find out through the inner monologue he stuffed his clothes with comic books at some point.

His body isn't infused with hamon when he's dead

>it would just stop lol because it can't go through stands
Then wouldn't it just bypass the stand entirely and go straight for Jotaro, unhindered by the stand's thick (albeit nonexistant, since stands can't be hurt by non-stands according to you) skin?
Point taken, but I'm assuming there's still a bit of residue since those are still Jonathan's lungs.

>Then wouldn't it just bypass the stand entirely and go straight for Jotaro
No? It would be blocked. Why is this so hard for you to comprehend?

he just used the laser eye

Jonathan specifically used the last of his hamon to attack Wang Chan

Dio's brain is alive and some dragon ball fusion bullshit is happening here
Only the strongest
You can't ignore the damages that could be done and then completely go back on that and say they impede the "laser's" progress

>You can't ignore the damages that could be done and then completely go back on that and say they impede the "laser's" progress
What are you even saying?

Eat some of this truck

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You are only acknowledging the laser's (fuck you it's a laser of eye-smegma now) physicality when it suits you. Having the laser run into SPs blocking arms would either hit it or not. If it hit it, there would be contact, and since they would then be objects the laser could come into contact with, they would pierce through. If it doesn't hit it, then it would bypass the block completely since it can't come into contact with the arms. There is no middle ground of "it just stops" because it's convenient for you

Eat some of this truck

>he can move a little bit
>i can move however the fuck i want
>that means he has the advantage and I should stay away from him

An oil tanker for you!

It is physical and it would hit Star Platinum. The issue here is that you think it would HURT Star Platinum, which is not how stands work. Star Platinum can't be penetrated by a beam of water like Jonathan's flesh was. It would just be deflected the same way Star Platinum can deflect any other physical object like knives or bullets.

According to your logic, the knives DIO threw would have ripped open Star Platinum's fists.

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SP can't block bullets, he can deflect them. Via grabbing and using his own stopping power and speed on the edges to halt tbe bullets completely or to hit their edges and redirect their paths. SP cannot outright take a bullet to the chest and hope to walk away unscathed.
Or who knows, maybe there's proof of this in the manga and I'm being a big ol' dummy

>SP cannot outright take a bullet to the chest and hope to walk away unscathed.
>Or who knows, maybe there's proof of this in the manga and I'm being a big ol' dummy
Do you have images disabled on your computer, or are you just messing with me?

By all means, post an image of Jotaro taking a bullet via star platinum. I haven't seen an image show anything of the sort in this thread yet.
I don't even care if it's bait at this point, I'm here for the text adventure.

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You're making a claim, so post an image of literally any Stand being hurt from being hit by a non-Stand.
You literally can't because it hasn't happened, because Stands can only be hurt by other Stands, you fucking moron.

I actually thought it was a preference thing. I mean, eye lasers are effective, but I think Dio really wanted to hammer in the despair factor and see jotaro desperately struggle against an onslaught of a fuck ton of knives. Same reason he killed joeseph right in front of jotaro, Dio is kind of a dick. Also, eye lasers could be dodged by having star platinum move jotaro's body at the last moment or something, being surrounded by knives isn't easy to block and almost impossible to dodge.

Does water count? Because red hot chili peppers in part four was affected by water and last I checked. Flat out water isn't a stand.

>Object can’t hurt standa
>Polnareff possesed by Anubis using the sword itself against Star Platinum
>Jolyne using a pen to damage Versace
Araki makes yourself clear. You would have avoided this shit with “Human can damage stand but is impossible because a stand would kill you before you touch them”

Not to defend him, but you probably could find some instances of that happening. Araki does mess it up sometimes.

Defend me, daddy

Red Hot Chili Peppers was bound to real electricity.

Because Dio is a one note psychopath, and removing him as archvillain removed araki's limiter.

I wish we could skip part 6 of the anime and come back to it after part 7 is done just to hit that home with video evidence.

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>Polnareff possesed by Anubis using the sword itself against Star Platinum
Anubis was the sword.
>Jolyne using a pen to damage Versace
Versace isn't a Stand.

My bad with the second, she didn’t hurted Versace but his stand, Underworld I think. I forget it because is a shitty fight and I only remember that mistake

I disagree, every single time Dio decided to let down his caution, he got blown out conpletely. He got ambushed by the surprise movement in frozen time, by Jotaro's feigning death after the knives, and even right at the road roller.

He's also right not to depend on his regeneration; if he's dealt an incapacitating blow he is extremely vulnerable to being finished off easily unless he is put in a position where he's safe for 30 seconds or so. When Jotaro donuted Dio, he was sent flying which meant he couldn't pursue. The other two times he was incapacitated he was either let go by Jotaro or made a surprise escape.

What about the ratt battle when Josuke shoots the ball bearing through the rat's scope, breaking the glass of the scope

Here's another example from Part 7 if the first one wasn't enough.

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>He's also right not to depend on his regeneration
And going to toe to toe with a Stand user, especially a strong Stand like Star Platinum, risks Dio's Stand getting damaged, which doesn't benefit from Dio's vampire regeneration.

>implying eye laser have infinite range
Lmao at this speedreader

That's just a visual effect. The rat was killed, so his stand was destroyed.

Imagine speedreading a post (and having terrible reading comprehension) and calling others speedreaders.
Imagine.

Dio a fag.

I mean, the reason Dio got donuted was because Jotaro tricked him into thinking he couldn't move in stopped time. And it's not like The World was unable to compete with Star Platinum, since Dio and Jotaro compared attack rushes right at the start of the fight. In a scenario where you have been injured once by suprise but know that you have a several second timestop advantage I don't really see why you wouldn't just approach and attempt another attack-rush competition; because you don't really need to win you just need to hold out for like 1/5 seconds and then get 4 seconds of free pummelling.

Why not just have jotaro punch a couple of the knives in stopped time and then tank the rest of them with SP

Wouldn't the eye lasers also hover in the air instead of connecting right away?

Dio was legit terrorized of Joestars, he believed they were destined to stop him on such an existential level he decided his best option was resetting the universe to erase them.
He was too careful and that costed him the win

>his best option was resetting the universe to erase them.
Eyes of Heaven is non-canon.

Part 6 diary you retard, dio was expecting to follow the way to heaven but never did. Pucci took his place and failed because of empori-bitch

He tried to but there were too many.

I meant use SP as a body shield on the ones he didn't deflect

>Except you can't just block lasers. They would go through his hands/arms like they did to Jonathan
You cannot hurt a Stand with anything else than another Stand.

Are there any actual scenes of bullets being stopped dead from a stand's body? Or do bullets and shit just pass through?

I mean, Star Platinum caught a bullet at the start of part 3, does that count?

He also stopped a bullet when Dio forced a policeman to shoot at him. It's also been clearly established only a Stand can hurt another Stand.

Because he wasn't 100% bonded with Jonathan's body yet and likely couldn't at the time. It's like when he was doing the demonstration to Hol Horse with the cigarrette burns in Part 3. Not only did the burn on the left side heal faster, it didn't heal flat out immediately. Using this as a basis to how much of his vampiric powers he has, recall how in the beginning of Part 1 just by drinking the blood of one police officer Dio's regeneration was so absurdly strong even being entirely engulfed in flames, his skin was healing far faster than the fire could burn him. Now here he is, in part 3, having to wait to heal something like a cigarrette burn. There's also when he loses his leg fighting with Jotaro, he needs to physically reattach it and drink the blood of a nearby woman to heal himself where as in Part 1 his veins would just recconect to his lost arm and heal right back WHILE he was split completely in two and none the worse for wear because of it. Part 3 DIO is SUBSTANTIALLY weaker and more fragile than Part 1 Dio. Jonathan's will also exists somewhat within the body and is implied to be resisting him and it's part of why DIO speaks to Jonathan as if he's there with him, also I recall a scene of him mentioning that Jonathan's will is hindering him as well, and is able to use Jonathan's Stand. Some portion of Jonathan is there still effecting him negatively(possibly lingering bits of hamon as well). If he were anywhere near as strong as he were in Part 1 and had his abilities, Jotaro would've gotten fucking annihilated even if DIO didn't have The World.

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Clash

Sauce

He's not wide enough

He caught it, it didn't actually hit him head on

Why doesn't SP just cradle Jotaro and tank all forms of non-stand damage

It's already been posted.

Fundamentally speaking though, bullets and pressurized vampiric essence are two entirely different ballgames.

Stands seem to be incorporeal by default but capable of affecting physical objects. It stands to reason that if you wanted to use a stands body to "block" something you probably could, and your stand wouldn't take damage from whatever you were blocking provided it was not another stand attack. This would probably require "energy" or "focus" though, so I could see bullets potentially slipping through if there was enough of them.

The dio police one, obviously

This explains most of it I think. Except the eye lasers since Dio was able to do that as a disembodied head. Maybe he just didn't feel like using them?

if you make two stands arm wrestle, would this kill the stand owner as their stand gets 'defeated'?

Yes, but you have to eat all the eggs

>get almost in range
>throw the knives
>once he moves to deflect the knives and there's like a second remaining, bumrush him
>break his neck
>gg
But I guess DIO was being careful.

>measly two bursts of eye juice

Not taking sides here, really, but I honestly can't picture Star Platinum being able to deal with some shit like this easier than a couple of knives.

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Because a hero has to win, regardless what BS you have to pull out of your ass.
Dio should have been able to kill him 1000 times over.

Honestly, I'd say it's probably more that like with the rest of his powers, he just couldn't access them in the way he wanted to. Even if he were able to in his incredibly weakened state, he probably didn't want to rely on something he wasn't 100% sure of. He was being extremely cautious during the course of that fight. Of course this is all speculative so your guess is as good as mine.

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what anime is this?

Boku no pico academia

and where did he even get all those knives from?

Literally, his ass.

That's his side+B

There was never any need for any of that. Jojo could only move for a fraction of a time Dio could. If Dio just attacked, Jotaro would not be able to defend and would die.

Let's not forget Jotaro falling from several dozen meters height and surviving without any injuries.

imma check it out

I want to see that fight's ending in the universe where DIO achieves heaven.

Let's put it like this:
>Jonathan. Noble, kind, and distinguished gentleman who not only gained his monstrous strength through overcoming adversity over adversity is also an absolutely beautiful paragon of the virtue of humanity and is the only man worthy of the great Dio using his full arsenal against him
>Jotaro is a punkass, arrogant, spoiled brat who just happened a great power handed to him with no manners, no higher aspirations, and whose very existence spits on Jonathan's a man 10000x greater than he could ever hope to be. He's lucky the great dio was even willing to even let him see his glorious Stand and humor him.

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How did Jotaro learn to timestop anyways?

once you realize you have the same type of stand, it just clicks.

This is peak brainlet