Why do LN protagonists refuse to have sex? Isn't having sex part of an unapologetic power fantasy?

Why do LN protagonists refuse to have sex? Isn't having sex part of an unapologetic power fantasy?

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Sex & mature themes and raises the age ratings a lot. The name of the game is what you can get away with while still being sold to the largest market.

It's impossible for weebs to self-insert into someone who's had sex.

What about seinen/josei series then?

There are exceptions.

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Then what? If they had sex then those ecchi scene would have less impact and they cant keep the status quo anymore

strange, you would think that it would be impossible for weebs to self-insert into a faggot instead.

I mean, in your fantasies do you run away from women blushing madly and stuttering? I doubt it.

School days happens.

It's because LN authors also never had sex.

Just need search for the right ones. Shinmai Maou, Masou Gakuen Hybrid x Heart, Ecstas Online and Magika No Kenshi all had their MCs have sex, I thik Madan no Ou to Vanadis also had it but I may be wrong since it's been a while that I read the novel and spoilers.

Just not enough of them. And then some only have sex with prositiutes and not their harem.

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because the weebs can identfy yourselves in the protagonist.

But most, if not all, of those stories have the girls fall in love with the MC automatically with little to no effort on the part of the MC.

It breaks suspension of disbelief when you have women acting like robots that cant think of anything but the MC's cock.

Kaifuku jutsushi no Yarinaoshi

Suspension of disbelief can only go so far.

Two reasons. First off Japanese doesn't embrace casual sex like the west. Purity is important for the obvious reasons as that is literally the only thing that determines a woman's value. Anime is an idealized world most of the time so the women must stay pure. The second reason is that it would be betrayal to the Harem. No one is sure who will win until the very end. Regardless, at the end they usually have sex anyways usually the in epilogue or near final chapter.

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Otaku want to self insert, but the moment their waifu is actually fucked (even by their self insert) they will drop the series and flame it to death for defiling the character's purity.

There are two kinds of seinen. seinen where the author doesn't give a damn and does whatever he wants, and seinen where they play the same game, but they are at least allowed more freedom

If I remember correctly, in Ecstas it takes at least 3 volumes for the MC's boss to fall in love with him and the dude is in a really difficult predicament, have to agree with that being the case for Shinmai and HxH, though I still find both series entertaining, in Vanadis case, I don't remember that well how long it took for the girls to fall in love with Tigre.

Dont they all eventually get to have sex with the nastiest tsundere girl?

Because casual sex is for losers and broken people, usually incels, that are incapable of love.

> it would be betrayal to the Harem. No one is sure who will win

This is the biggest reason by far and it's why a lot of (non-LN) harem series also never have conclusive pairings. Ambiguity encourages fan discussion, and maybe even motivates fanfic, doujinshi, etc. It's a marketing tactic, not a moral stance.

> casual sex is for incels

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Harem manga MCs are the same, let's not pretend the issue somehow is the medium when it clearly isnt.

tsundere would stop being all tsun

I hope the time he gets to fuck the dwarf also takes one whole chapter.

Cuz' all they are faggots, user.
Real CHAD is here...

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Because you can't write about sex while you're still a virgin.

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sex sucks and theres tons of other things that are more fun, like watching anime.

This but unironically.

What the fuck does weebs have to do with this?

Weebs can have sex faggot

They are the target audience. The people who buy anime and manga and LNs don't have sex, there's a reason Japan is in the middle of a fertility crisis.

>fertility crisis
that means something different entirely.

>sex happens during a timeskip

Do you want a hentai?

The Japanese is the target audience. Not weebs.

Sex sucks when you suck at sex.

Read different LNs retard

I don't mind fade to black sex scenes. Knowing that the MC has sex already puts him above all MCs that don't.

That one guy had it: purityfags. Otakus would come out of their basements and put the streets on fire if their favorite waifu had sex with someone other than themselves. Just look at Kyoani to see what one lonely disturbed NEET can do, and multiply that by one gazillion..

>weebs can have sex
Fake weebs.

>purityfags
Oh yes how horrible it is for a woman to retain value!!!!! That is AWFUL.Western women are garbage, birth rates are increasing in the east as asian females take white men for their own.

sex is no different from masturbation.
the end result is orgasms, and orgasms are always the same.
you know whats better than sex?
a good cup of fucking coffee.

fucking incels

I hope the undressing/bathing is a couple of chapters, then a chapter just fucking the dwarf, then another with Roxanne too. I also hope we see some blood this time too.

>weebs
I want Yea Forums tourists and normalfaggots to stop using words they dont understand and leave

Why would you self-insert into someone who DOESN'T have sex?

>OH NO NO NO NO NO YOU CAN"T JUST HAVE S*X
The absolute state.

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Just once I want to see a situation like this where the guy just turns his head and apologizes while closing the door, and the girl accepts the apology and they act nonchalant and joke about it later.

Amagi Brilliant Park?

but the MC is the object of self insertion. So if the MC has sex with the girls it's just part of the power fantasy.

In all honesty celibate MCs are a meme. It just gets repeated since it's part of the template. Editors tell writers to do it since it's part of the template. Do audiences actually respond better or worse to it? Honestly I doubt we know either way. Everyone else is doing it so I must do it too, even if it's fucking stupid. That pretty much sums up Japanese society as a whole.

Self-insert only go that far. Waifus must keep their virginities for the ronery NEET.

That would be neat. I wonder if they will reach Cat and Lizard's arcs.

I love MT reviews

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Harems where the girls are at each other's throats are still the best.

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I actually forgot how based Kanye was.

Because some weebs are insecure about their waifu being with the MC.

kek

No they aren't.

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You should read Sevens if you didn't already.

Why can't they self-insert into someone capable of fighting demon kings with god-like powers while hauling a fan club of hot horny women around, but can't self-insert if the moment the ponus goes in the vagoo?

>casual sex is for incels

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No, I hate catty underhanded bitches. 90% of harems could be improved by only having one (1) love interest.

Not at all, since all the real money is in merchandise which only pathetic weebs buy.

Sex doesn't suck but its a lot easier to watch anime.

The anime will have to dumb shit down so much.
Thankfully japs won’t chimp out on something like that unlike in the west unless of course it involves MC not fucking his half sister and instead having her rape his son.

I hope so. I'm also not sure how I want to see dwarf's first time go, not that what I want will matter. Have her give the first blowjob/69, have her climb on top and insert it herself, or just mating press. I don't want to see a sheet covering her again, but that's almost certain.

watch 500+

>Crotch tattoo
I need context so I can pick this up

>get called an incel and told to have sex
>have sex
>still get called an incel
There is no winning with you people.

Why?

She got kidnapped by evil imperial royals as a child and branded with that thing for edgy reasons.

It would become unrealistic and ruin the immersion for all the self inserters because those are the only losers that enjoy reading/watching isekai garbage.

Stop using words you dont understand

ova doesnt count towards your count

Because while weebs are willing to self insert for power fantasies, if a waifu has sex with the MC she is no longer pure and now the weeb has to burn all his merch and send death threats to the author

You really shouldn't care about the opinion of anyone on this site. It's pretty entertaining to see the vast levels of cope though.

At least Berserk did this in an interesting way by making Gutz sexually scarred. Made sense he'd not want to bang anyone. I'd like to see something more along those lines than some stuttering/flustered white knight.

Paul did nothing wrong.

Because most nip writers are lonely virgins who don't really understand how relationships and sex work.
That's why the main "couple" getting into a relationship is like the final goal of the series and once they reach that, the story ends. In the same vein, sex is seen as the final stage of being in a couple instead of just another part of being in a relationship so even when the MC has a gf, they won't fuck till pretty much the end of the story.
Unless it's shoujo/josei, then the main couple fuck in like the first chapter and it's probably barely consensual.

But he bangs Casca and that apostle thot.

>refuse to have sex?

Satoo's March fugged thicc wamen. It also has anime.

Gotta string readers along so they buy new volumes in perpetuity.

This is why I prefer VNs as the protagonist will actually fuck someone and any romance will actually go somewhere.

Satou is one of the worst offenders.
Faggot has sex with prostitutes all the time and yet will always come up with an excuse to not fuck his haremettes, even the ones that outright tell him they want to fuck or the ones that aren't underage.
MCs who fuck whores instead of their waifus are worse than virgin MCs.

This but unironically. After blowing 2-4 loads it's refractory period for the next hour or two. On the other hand, I can binge anime for 5+ hours non-stop. Sex is overrated.

Eventually sure. I'm just saying that if you were to make your MC chaste then that's a decent way to do it. Him not banging half the female cast could be a literal character moment seeing as how he's overpowered or whatever.

He also refuses to fuck the dryad, even though no one is around to find out.

>He didn't see the latest Arifureta episode

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>Because most nip writers are lonely virgins who don't really understand how relationships and sex work.
They don't understand how much else works either, so why let that stop them?

The inconsistency is the biggest part of that problem. It's also about as bad when just about everyone else in a a ln/manga has sex, but never the mc and his harem.

>incel
>Involuntarily Celebate
>having casual sex
Sign up for this years Secret Santa so I can mail you a new dictionary.

He thinks her body looks too young for some reason. He could also fuck those like Nana or Liza and no one would have to know, but never even attempts to do that beyond the first time with Nana when others were around.

But if you go by publication order then he fucks the apostle thot in the first chapter and Casca in one of the first arcs. There weren't really any women in the cast by that point other than Theresa and Charlotte, none of which were ever in a situation where the possibility of Guts fucking them was a thing.
If you go by chronological order it's pretty much the same. The first woman he has proper interactions with is Casca and he ends up fucking her, then he fucks the aspotle thot and it's only after a couple more arcs that he meets Farnese and then Schierke, who had no chance with him by the point they were introduced.

Hahaha holy shit you're fucking dumb

light novels are sold primarily to middle schoolers

And salarymen.

Is he just describing the situation wrong or what cuz that does sound like shit.

His son let Paul get away with cheating, and then didn't even let his son have some fun too.

He is only omitting a few details and exaggerating others.
At the start of the story the MC is indeed a creep who feels attracted by his mother and his maid and who tries to groom a little girl into being his future girlfriend.
His father is also a cheating faggot and MC does lie to save his ass, though ultimately that ends up being a good thing.
What he did omit is that this is the first few chapters and MC is meant to come off as a total creep. As a matter of fact, his father beating him is just him going "You are a creep and your relationship with this girl is toxic as fuck so I'm gonna kick your ass and send you away so you can both develop like normal people".
After that the MC still acts like a creep but slowly goes through character development that makes him into a much more mature and serious adult.
MT is pretty much a story about a manchild turned actual child using his second life to actually become a man.

>His father is also a cheating faggot and MC does lie to save his ass, though ultimately that ends up being a good thing.
I always thought that his lie was mostly covering maid first and her unborn child and then Paul.

Yeah, pretty much.
He knew that if he didn't lie then the maid would get kicked out along with his half-sister and they would have a shit life so he lied to save them.

What's the name?

Eh, incels claim that prostitution does not count against celibate, so claiming the same for casual sex isn't much of a stretch.

>incels claim that prostitution does not count against celibate
Literally never happened.

Anorexia and bulimia are closely related despite being opposites.

In fact, he didn't care about his father at all, because he judged him as a cheating bastard. Which will only come back to bite him in the balls around 13 years later.

Literally always happens with incels, you probably just didn't read their claims.

"We wrote ourselves into a corner so now our isekai protagonist is going to be isekai'd again for no apparent reason-- Recursive isekai!"

I have never seen an incel claim that prostitutes don't count.
At most they will tell you you are still a faggot if you pay for sex but no one would claim you are still celibate if you fuck whores.

>tfw no other based LN protag like based kizuna impregnating his onee-san
sad we never get a season 2

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>you have to crash your family with no survivors just because your chad manly dad impregnated some maid.
Tsk tsk tsk

>so now our isekai protagonist is going to be isekai'd again for no apparent reason
When did this happen?

You're mistaking it for something else I think user-kun

When rudy is sent off to find another swordmaster. He gets randomly teleported to some random other location for no reason.

As long as we get to see them going all loving and shit I'll be good.
I also wonder how they are going to play off the part of Roxanne being on her period when mc wants to fuck her but fucks dwarf instead which iw out of turn, Roxanne gets heated and just kiss fucks mc.

He just gets sent to another continent. That's not isekai, you fucking retard.

Sex, sexuality and all that is actually pretty mature subject matter that most people writing for teenagers aren't really equipped to tackle. So this stuff ends up being tucked away as maybe an implication that happens near the end of the story or something ish.

Theoretically though it shouldn't be too hard. Just have people have sex. Although you might have to make people date too which lord knows happens once in a blue moon in these stories.

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You mean the mana calamity/teleportation incident? That's not random at all and involved Nanahoshi being transferred to that world which was the cause and also as a result hitogami locking onto him.

Potayto potahto.
The function is the same.

Let me guess, the one on the right is a virgin, despite being kept in prison and being branded with a womb tattoo?

Geographical isekai?

100% agree. This is why VNs are the best.

>clenched teeth
How to tell if an porn author has had sex or not

It isn't because it's a temporal setback at best and MC reunites with the people he knew eventually, unlike actual isekai where MC is no longer even in the same dimension and he either never reunites with his loved ones again or only does it at the end of the story.

There's going to be less love the first time with Sherry like with Roxanne, but I do want to see at least as much time focused on Sherry as Roxanne got, and not that amount just split between the two of them. As more slaves are bought, then we would get even less time person unless the total amount goes up. It doesn't need to go up linearly in general, but at least for the important events each should get the amount they deserve.

America is the "new world"
Europe is the "old world"
Nato is the "first world"
Commies are the "second world"
Africa is the "third world"

Isekai is "another world"
Continemts are isekai

No

>it's a temporal setback at best and MC reunites with the people he knew eventuall
I droped it before he did so the effect is the same as if be never did.

Well that's your problem.

Because niptard otaku writers don't know what sex is much less how to write it. I don't know why this is even a question when it's this obvious

Maybe he's in her ass, which would probably warrant that on first penetration

>Note: This is a more accurate depiction of a female orgasm than the tearful depictions shown by doujinshi artists who have never studied human sexuality. Orgasm results in a general tensing of the body. Hentai depictions of female orgasm, however, look more like the results of torture.

In fairness, it often is torture.

Not since I dropped it, it isn't ;)

>dropped it when the story actually picked up
Boooo