>Japan sees mental and emotional health issues as shameful and mental health services are almost nonexistent
>Almost every anime is about someone with depression, autism, or ADHD
>Every anime character has abnormal behaviors including bipolar mood affective disorders
What gives?
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Brain problems is the schlock writer's easy way out for conflict.
Alternatively, the DSM being more expanded just happens to file an increasing number of habits under "brain problems" (an inherent problem of the soft sciences is that the definitions are never easy to make).
>Brain problems is the schlock writer's easy way out for conflict.
easy way in to conflict too
Discord tranny spotted
>>Japan sees mental and emotional health issues as shameful
It's no fucking wonder so many mentally unstable individuals walk around unchecked. There's some insanely creepy weirdos with clear issues walking around freely here.
I even hear they have a website where they post disturbing images and laugh at the misfortunes of others. Could you imagine being like that?
Dilate
>mental health services
Explain this meme to me.
Psychological """"help""""" is a scam
Fucking degenerates, can't believe the nerve of some people autistic enough to do that.
>wtf, why can't we just sidestep due process with (((psychology)))???
There, I took your regurgitated bait. Can you go back now?
You're right, looking unhappy should be a crime and every depressed person should be locked up for disturbing the peace.
this but unironically. mental illness is contagious.
Does that mean your internet privileges will be taken away for being too autistic
im ok with being incidentally caught in the government crackdown so long as it prevents just one (1) incel shooter from going on a rampage.
freedom of speech was a mistake.
>Japan sees mental and emotional health issues as shameful and mental health services are almost nonexistent
As it should be.
>americans think being a shooter on a rampage is using your freedom of speech
This board is a mistake
Psychology is a meme to legit nutcases unless they have you on meds to change your crazy behavior.
they know their market.
you think the free speech is available in the middle east? because there are hell of a lot of shooters there too.
I think you're projecting. You should get your autism and/or gender dysphoria checked out.
Lol at all the seething schizos exposing themselves.
>mental health "services"
>i.e. go tell a "doctor" your problems for an hour a week then he prescribes you an SSRI for the rest of your life that you will be physically addicted to
>don't look at the withdrawal symptoms like brain shocks
If you want to give hundreds of dollars a month to some zog doctor to tell you your brain is ill and only his pill will fix you then go for it. If you want to be happy, pills and "psych doctors" won't work. If they did their business model would collapse.
>Russian schizo outing himself and proving that mental health isn't just a "meme"
What were you trying to prove here?
I hope this thread is satire. I'm genuinely schizophrenic and without modern medicine and easily accessable mental health services I'd be a crazy homeless person. Doctors overprescribing drugs to people with normal problems is a US capitalism problem, not mental health services.
Actually talking about your problems or sometimes even just talking in general with another real human bean on a regular basis legit helps.
>As it should be.
Substitute "mental and emotinal" with "physical" and read it aloud.
This sounds just as retarded.
>>Actually talking about your problems or sometimes even just talking in general with another real human
Sure, doctors aren't real human beings though.
They're reptilians intent on charging you money for the privilege of talking to them, setting a schedule for endless "talk" sessions because you're too much of a loser for anyone else to listen to and it guarantees their income indefinitely, and selling you drugs to make even more money off you.
allowing ESL's like to post was a mistake
Whenever someone says mental health in a modern context it can safely be assumed they're reffering to normal people with normal everyday problems.
In a curious parallel we must wonder why American, so prudish and uptight on issues of sexuality and things of sexual nature, should also be the among the largest producers of pornography and as well maintain the highest numbers of people with cuckoldry fetishes.
It's bizarre really the whole 'forbidden' fruit scenario or how that which is not spoken of yet will so readily manifest itself in society in other ways and forms of expression. In some ways it's a swings and roundabouts things - what comes around goes around. They leave it alone and let it continue its miserable circular trajectory only to kick them up the backsides with the consequences (degeneracy in America and mental illness in Japan).
Anyone else cured their mental illness thanks to philosophy ?
Reading nietzsche, stoics, and carl jung cured me.
schizophrenic detected, opinion discarded
why should we listen to schizophrenics about how society should function and how many drugs the doctors need to prescribe us to keep us in check?
I especially find it weird how A Silent Voice, a Manga/Movie that sympathizes with people dealing with mental problems and condemns those who vilify them, never has the characters seek any sort of professional help.
>never has the characters seek any sort of professional help.
Because then there wouldn't be a conflict to resolve
>American, so prudish and uptight on issues of sexuality and things of sexual nature should also be the among the largest producers of pornography and as well maintain the highest numbers of people with cuckoldry fetishes.
Are you trying to say that Japan doesn't have the same exact problem?
>japan
>prudish
>anime is shameful
There you go.
I thought a silent voice was about a physical disability
>Sex education isn't taught in schools
>People literally dying in embarrassment trying to have sex with each other
>Their phones cameras are required to have sound whenever they go off and they have problem with groping on trains
>How they deal with rape crimes or pedophilia was stuck in medieval ages until they changed until 2017
>They consider public displays of affection disgusting
>They have strict dress codes and how interpersonal interactions should be conducted in not only schools or work and in public
Japan isn't anime or manga, just as American isn't cartoons or comics.
>>Sex education isn't taught in schools
That can't be true, japan is a first world country.
you answered yourself
>Japan sees mental and emotional health issues as shameful and mental health services are almost nonexistent
therefore, none of those things you describe are mental or emotional health issues. easy.
that's fucked up
I had no idea
Bug people rely on highly advanced cooperation and interconnectedness for society to fuction. That's simply the way their social structure has evolved to deal w the scale of population. When one clog in the machine is depressed, it's usually because their mother died.
Haha thank god that Yea Forums doesn’t do that neither, right?
>mental illness is contagious
American education, everyone
There might be something to that though. Hazardous/ self-destructive thought patterns are contagious.
Is this the only psychotherapist in anime? (not counting the Kuuchu Buranko guy)
I think there is some truth to it.
Though I don't have any data to back it up I feel like the more I browse Yea Forums the more autistic I become.
Mental ilness people should be euthanized(including trannies and faggs).
What about autistic scientists who could make big breakthroughs in science?
sure, you first
Irony poisoning is a mental illness too
>How they dealt with rape was medieval until 2017
What did they do? Cut their balls off or hang them or something?
It's a scam because it's almost impossible to treat these people, the brain is far too complex to "fix". It sucks but it is what it is, but it doesn't take away the fact that mental problems are all around us, minor to severe
It's all in your head, user.
Probably one of those idiots that thinks that japan is the rape capital of the world because the statistics are too good to be true.
>Sure, doctors aren't real human beings though.
I used my English teacher for that purpose.
Even welcome to the NHK which deals heavily with mental health problems and social issues just kinda glosses over them in the end.
I mean you could have it that the character seeks help at the end of the series after putting it off for x amount of time. There's your conflict resolution.
A personality trait is an illness if some group of dudes in white coats say so.
>t. totally mentally stable healthy person posting on 4ch
I will enjoy watching you die.
I'm no doctor but if your using this website to get most of your socialisation then yea its gonna fuck you up.
>those original laws
>medieval
Talk about hyperbole
Well that's not what I thought. Rape was a pretty serious crime in medieval times though. (In peace, in war obviously that went unpunished most of the time because they were the enemy)
I mean pretty much. That's kinda their job.
>Being this dismissive when proof is presented to you
>“I have always been infuriated that robbery is considered a more grave crime than raping a woman and ruining her life,” Matsushima said in her inaugural interview as justice minister.
>The Justice Ministry seeks to expand the definition of rape, which has traditionally been interpreted as vaginal intercourse, to include anal and oral sex, thereby recognizing the possibility that men can also be victims.
>n what has been hailed as a significant step forward, the proposed legal revision also would establish a new penalty against sex abuse committed by those who have used their “guardianship,” such as parents, to take advantage of children aged under 18.
>At present, children forced to perform oral sex, for example, are not recognized as victims of rape but of indecent assault, even though they have been physically “invaded,” Nakano said
>The new definition, therefore, signals a break from the male-chauvinist mindset that pervaded much of Japanese society in the Meiji Era (1868-1912), Tsunoda said.
What do you want to call it then?
Mental illnesses are not contagious like diseases are. However, they can be contagious in the manner of memes. An otherwise healthy person could see a mental illness in action, inspiring them to replicate that mental illness in their own behaviour. For example, what would otherwise be a normal person who spends too much time in an echo chamber of blackpilled doomers who are too open about their depression is likely to get depression themselves. This is why many normalfags try not to be open about their deeper feelings. It is also why many normalfags tend to stay clear of "debbie downers" rather than approach and try to help them. It could be an survival/evolutionary response to limit the spread of mental illnesses, to keep as many humans as mentally healthy as possible.
Outdated as medieval implies way more extreme laws.
>watch A Silent Voice
>Shouko is never seen visiting a therapist
>Shouya is never seen visiting a therapist
>their mothers are never seen visiting a therapist
>Shouko and Shoya were both suicidal
>the only thing that stopped Shouko from suicide was the random chance that Shouya was there during her attempt
So you're only argument is that it wasn't "as bad" as you thought
It's bad but using sensationalist descriptions is cancer.
this isnt just a japanese problem, its still impossible to talk about having personality or mental disorders in the west without people assuming you are a retard who cant function in society
id say with stuff like depression its almost worse in the west because there are still many people who claim depression isnt even real
When you use the term "Stuck in the medieval times" in relation to punishment, most people think of the extreme punishments like being hung, drawn and quartered, or boiled in oil or something.
While their laws are certainly outdated and should have been changed, the way you phrased it implied harsher punishments rather than only being imprisoned for 3 years.
I'm not even sure why you're calling it an argument, it's not like anyone disagrees the laws weren't appropriate, but calling it medieval when really the lack of punishment is what's actually wrong with them is bizarre
And you're adamant diminishing and dismissial is not?
Was "The new definition, therefore, signals a break from the male-chauvinist mindset that pervaded much of Japanese society in the Meiji Era (1868-1912), Tsunoda said" Not good enough for you?
Learn to goddamn read
Learn to goddamn write
The meji era is around 300 years off for the definition of medieval.
It didn't count as rape if the women was sleeping or unconscious. It was labeled under sexual misconduct I think.
Taking "Stuck in the medieval times" literally isn't my problem and if you agree with me then why are you still being defensive.
>why did people correct me when I was wrong?
Please think about that
If all it takes to fix you is a couple books I'm not sure you have mental illness. It's probably more along the lines of bad habits/lifestyle. Same as how living as a fatfuck isn't a disease in and of itself but more a bad lifestyle that leads to diseases.
It's not taking it fucking literally, it's interpreting it in the way it commonly means, which is excessive, violent punishment. It's not my fault you don't understand what you're writing.
And again, nobody is disagreeing that the laws were wrong, it's just that what you said implied the opposite of what was actually happening which caused this whole confusion in the first place. Nobody here is pro rape, We're just telling you to use words correctly you moron
>Being defensive
You're the one who can't admit he fucked up and can't use basic words. Everyone else interpreted it the same way
Be less stupid
But I'm not wrong. You're just trying to use what you mistakenly took as literal despite everything else I wrote along with the post, doesn't make me wrong. I've showed my proof, and you were being dismissive and now you're trying to play it off.
>Nobody here is pro rape
speak for yourself, faggot
That's not prudish, that's a highly evolved and superior way of dealing with sexuality in society. Wish we had something like these things in the West.
>Psychological """"help""""" is a scam
Just because you've never had success with it doesn't mean it's all fake or not a single person on the whole history of it hasn't.
One of the problems is in how psychoterapy is perceived. As used, if you think about "fixing" the brain, you're bound to disappointment. That's because we expect a quick solving of a problem that sometimes has been deeply rooted in our thought process. Thoughts are all about routes of synapses, and the more those are taken the more the myelin sheath can be developed, which in turn facilitates and speeds up those routes.
So we sit on Yea Forums 15 hours a day for years and go around saying "hurr shrimps are a fraud" because in 1 hour per week they couldn't magically reverse all the damage caused by the same habits that people insinst on maintaining.
I suppose that was a bit of an absurd claim given where we are
I'm a moron because you tried to use that as an argument after I showed you how old their laws haven't changed? You should practice what you preach buddy.
>Nobody here is pro rape
That's a lie
Yeah that's why their birth rate is dying, they have prostitutes everywhere and most of their population can't actually make a family unit.
>Fate/stay: Here Tonight
Ok, I was 300 years away from it being the medieval times, I will try to be more literal so a dumbass won't try to use it in an argument next time. There, does that make you feel better?
you outside of gross physical injuries, you cant even define "mental illness" except in terms of how other people treat you.
if we brought the modern pseudoscience of psychiatry back to the american south during jim crow, being black would be defined as a mental ilness.
It's not an argument against it, none of us are arguing against changing the laws. I've said this like 5 times.
Our collective response was "Huh, that's not medieval, that's more lenient than I thought" because you'd implied the punishment was draconian. This is purely because you used the wrong phrase and won't admit it.
Do you really want to keep this going even though you agree with me?
I don't see how you can call anyone a dumbass when you seem to not be able to realize that noone is arguing against changing the laws to be more harsh, but everyone thought they were already harsh and would be made more lenient because that was what you said.
I don't know how many times people need to tell you this. Most non retarded people learn after the third or fourth time they've been told something
I'll post it a few more times to save time coming back
We aren't pro rape, We're just pointing out you're a retard and used a phrase that implied the exact opposite of what you were trying to convey
We aren't pro rape, We're just pointing out you're a retard and used a phrase that implied the exact opposite of what you were trying to convey
We aren't pro rape, We're just pointing out you're a retard and used a phrase that implied the exact opposite of what you were trying to convey
Just pretend I linked to your new butthurt comments
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Well you don't seem to have learned why everyone was calling you retarded yet, so for public safety I suppose I have to
what mental illness did you have user?
philosophy is useful to those with the brains to use it.
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Mental illnesses like ADHD or clinical depression are pretty well defined and psychiatrists are capable of diagnosing them and treating them. The problem with illnesses like that is that a lot of people respond to treatment differently so finding the right medication and therapy combination is still a trial and error process. There's also always the dangers of misdiagnosis, but that's true for all medicine.
A lot of people also expect to pop a pill and magically be fine, but that's just not how it works. Just like taking insulin doesn't really cure diabetes, popping Aderall won't cure ADHD, but it will at least treat the symptoms while you work on a cure. Some people can eventually get cured with lifestyle changes, some people can't and are stuck treating symptoms for their rest of their lives.
There's also a difference between what a psychiatrist and a psychologist does. A psychiatrists treats mental illnesses that have a physical origin while a psychologist treats mental illnesses that have environmental origins (trauma, etc.). Understandably, psychiatrists take a generally more medical approach to their work and have an easier time because medicine does visibly work (most of the time) at alleviating symptoms relatively quickly and can be adjusted, while a psychologist might spend months doing therapy and getting nowhere.
>Seething this hard
>you cant even define "mental illness" except in terms of how other people treat you
With psychological/neurological tests we can measure many things, such as attention, percepction, recognition of shapes and sounds, and detecting possibly (self-)harmful behaviors, such as paranoia, anxiety, depersonalization, over and under eating, etc
Just because we still don't have a complete understanding (which medicine also does not, by the way) of the brain doesn't mean you can just dismiss the whole concept of mental illness.
>being black would be defined as a mental ilness
Yes, psychiatry is full of cultural influence and nowadays extremely heavy pharmaceutical influence. Doesn't mean all of psychology is in vain. Medicine in general had those influences for the longest time, thank god the sciences are evolving.
>>They consider public displays of affection disgusting
In a perfect world every society would be like this
Eurotrash leave.
>Mental illnesses like ADHD or clinical depression are pretty well defined and psychiatrists are capable of diagnosing them and treating them.
They can't even -objectively- prove that someone suffer from those.
What's that called? I want to watch it.
I love anime about professionals doing their jobs. Bartender was great. I also liked the one about the lonely girl who hosted a relationship advice radio show although I can't for the life of me remember what it was called.
Unfortunately this results in alienation and social dehumanization of otherwise sane people who have autistic traits
Autists are alienated cause people don't like weirdos. It doesn't matter what some dudes in a lab says, people just don't like spergs, sperg.
>Implying depression is a real mental illness
A lot of cases are clear enough that diagnosis is almost certainly correct.
The word "prove" doesn't really apply to medicine anyway, not just mental illnesses. A lot of it is trial and error and seeing what works, a lot of illnesses of other organs are also hard or impossible to diagnose, most doctors rely on flowcharts and statistics to prescribe medicine, see if it works (it usually does) and then try something else if it doesn't. If someone comes to you with joint pain, headaches, fatigue, fever do they have the flu, dengue fever or lyme disease? You try to cure the most probably case, if that doesn't work you move on to more complex cases.
That's how all of medicine works, you just have to accept it. Psychiatry is no different, and the fact of the matter is that it does work, sometimes very clearly, and just because there is a certain (maybe even large in the US) amount of misdiagnosis or some people don't respond well to treatment doesn't take away from that.
On the specific case of ADHD, there's a lot of misdiagnosis in children but adult ADHD is one of the more understood illnesses and is probably the one most successfully treated these days. Stuff like depression or anxiety is a crap shoot and treatment is hard to find, but a psychiatrist prescribing CNS stimulants will be able to easily tell if the treatment is working or not. People with ADHD just physically react differently to stimulants (even stuff like coffee) than people without, even if doctors don't entirely understand why.
>oh the irony
No wonder japan’s suicide rate is off the roof
i fucking hate when that happens while im eating
They focus on external causes and internal discipline instead of vacuous psychological concepts such as "sub conscious" and "self esteem"
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