I'm searching for the Net Terminal Genes

You can net my terminal genes if you know what I mean.

Actually, I mostly read seinen, like Iwaaki, Matsumoto, etc. It's just hard for me to see the humanity in the characters' faces, which makes the story difficult to relate to.

>why is he only happy when he slaughter defenseless beings?

Removing the cyborgs is his fulltime job as a safeguard while removing the evil organ harvesting scientists is his previous job as a human policeman so go figure.

So far murdering cyborgs and degenerates is the only thing that ever brought smile to his face.

The more I think about this the more I appreciate it.
If not for that he'd be just an autismal robot in an autismal world, but this gives him a character and a personality. He fucking hates cyborgs so he kills their children and laughs about it, and that's ok because the cyborgs are humanity's worst natural enemy, they don't want to get along.

Then he comes across some """human"" scientists pactiticng slavery and organ harvesting from some local indigenous degenerate subhumans and doesn't like that either so he puts on a maniacal grim kills all of them along with the slaves, prisoners and probably giggles to himself.

So he's not an autismal robot or a cardboard good guy protagonist.
He's a bad ass space cowboy who shoots anything he doesn't like the look of.

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Sadly no adaptation will do it justice,
I love the manga as it is but I really wish we had more Blame shit and the Netflix episode sadly doesn't scratch that itch

the blame prototype from noise has nothing to do with the actual blame manga

A faithful adaptation of blame will be basically technolyze except with more silent episodes.

And i'm not sure if it eveen needs one.
>dude walks through some fantastical architecture to the sounds of an electric transformer
>blows something up
>keeps walking
>some shit crawl out of the pipe
>he blows it up and keeps waling

Perhaps it's just best suited for the comic format.
I'm not so sure it will even benefit from being animated or would be gripping to watch.

>>dude walks through some fantastical architecture to the sounds of an electric transformer
>>blows something up
>>keeps walking
>>some shit crawl out of the pipe
>>he blows it up and keeps waling
that sounds like pure fucking kino to me

Wasn't Killy being a policeman implied in other side material as well?

Also Blame prototype happened in the old world before the whole big fuck up. So it has nothing to do in a sense it's a detached story that happened tens of thousads years ago. It doesn't matter rather than didn't happen.

I’m searching for a good story in the BLAME manga, oh wait it isn’t here

at the end of noise, which is the canon prequel, theres a chapter called blame which is a prototype for blame!, but its not canon and they are completely detached. and yes, i realize i am being incredibly autistic about this.

>It's just hard for me to see the humanity in the characters' faces
Well of fucking course, hardly any of them are even remotely "human" anymore, and even if they were slightly "human" it would be in a completely unrecognizable way.

For fuck's sake, they enter into a new mega-sphere where they all realize "oh I guess all these humanoids are like half our fucking size" implying that anything "human" is going to be warped beyond all recognition. The un-human like quality that you are speaking of works incredibly well with the world setting of Blame! and that almost coincidental aspect of the artist's unhuman like drawings paired with the unhuman setting of the manga makes the series that much better to read. I'm honestly sorry this aspect of his work needed to actually be explained to you. It's way more enjoyable to piece that basic quality together yourself but you were too fucking stupid to do it on your own. Sad.

>which makes the story difficult to relate to.
OF COURSE IT IS

Are you a genetically altered cyborg thing that has evolved and been modified from thousands of years of chaotic, random computerized alterations and fucking around with genetics and cybernetics? PROBABLY NOT, RIGHT M8? You don't go into a series like Blame! expecting to relate to the characters like it's a fucking Twilight fanfic you fucking retard.

I didn't read Blame!, I read other stuff by the author.

As far as I understand "terminal genes" are the non-mutant actual human genes.

So the entire story (that spanned for many thousands of years) Killy was looking for a normal human and couldn't find it.

Oh so you're a fucking idiot. That explains everything.

see
And the characters who were supposed to be ordinary humans looked like this too, iirc.

Yeah, it's subtly implied. He finds it at the end or some shit it's been a long time since I've read it all. I have all the master editions but I want to reread them all together at once.

What does that even mean? Did you read the thread? I started with ; I never claimed to be talking about Blame!.

i think that Seu was a "normal" human but didnt have the gene, not all original humans even had the gene IIRC

My bad, I guess you are saying that because of the artstyle you can't get into the more grounded "human" like works of Nihei. That's fine. Blame! is his greatest work for a reason. He's trying to make his characters look more human (aka, moe) but it isn't working

Well then fucking read Blame! nigger. It's fucking amazing and his artstyle peaked in that series. The bizarre style of his drawings paired incredibly well with the atmosphere of the mega-structure setting.

I want to do a table-top RPG with this fucking setting holy shit that would be so fucking cool

If you tout it this hard, I'll have to check it out. Third time's the charm.

Blame is by far the most interesting thing he wrote.

Biomega focused on action rather then exploring the infinite enigmatic fuck up abandoned factory crawling with evil machines and I honestly just dropped it midway into it

And Sidonia is Nisei conforming tothe mainstream demand for the the stereotypical shounen anime with the chosen one protagonist, and a harem of young girls and hermaphrodites.
It's by far his least interesting work and sadly the one the japs loved the most.

>be a unique artist with an interesting vision
>write a cult-hit niche manga that's loved by a small nichee of people
>your own daughter says "Dad write something fun like Naruto"
>Write the most uninspired cliche standard anime #907876876 just like everything else
>get 10 times more popular, an anime adaptationa, a movie, figurines release the old manga re-release

That's actually kinda sad.

Also throughout Blame! you can literally feel his struggle as a non-manga artist trying to figure out the faces and fighting his horrible same face syndrome while developing his own style along the way.

You can basically feel him becoming a mangaka as you read into Blame!

Well Seu was repeatedly resurrected with an industrial 3d printer getting progressively worse every time.

Maybe he lost his gene around his 1000th time or something.

>as a non-manga artist
What do you mean? Was he trained in some other non-mango kind of art? Or just an amateur who struggled with faces?

>So the entire story (that spanned for many thousands of years) Killy was looking for a normal human and couldn't find it

Damn. That's exactly like being on Yea Forums.

It sort of requires the right perspective. You aren't reading the journey of humans doing things, you are reading the journey of these weird cybernetic beings basically following their programming in some robotic way. I don't blame you at all for finding this unrelatable, it's just that... that's the point?

Get high.
Listen to some bass pounding techno.
Open the first volume and just read it all at once. It's fucking great.

>What do you mean? Was he trained in some other non-mango kind of art? Or just an amateur who struggled with faces?

He was teaching architectural design in US, participated in designing The Matrix movie then decided to go home to Japan and become a mangaka.

Maybe it was the matrix that lit up his passion for drawing sci-fi,

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Duly noted, user. Duly noted.

Knights of Sidonia at least does in fact have some pretty fucking cute girls in it. I know it was him "selling out" but he did a good job because I wanted to fuck literally all the love interests. ESPECIALLY THE HERM GOD DAMN IT FU

Holy shit what a bizarre backstory

Well to be honest I was too harsh on Sidonia.

It takes a lot of creativity and imagination to make the space penis tentacle into the best waifu and have her actually win.

But it is still sad that Nihei's most popular work is the one when he said fuck it and just did what everybody else does.

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just realized that Seu actually had one of the better outcomes, he gets to go into a time rift with his 2d waifu until the world unfucks itself and by then it might be a decent place to be.

At that point just appreciate the cute as fuck character designs. He nailed it with Shizuka. It doesn't even matter she basically becomes a space-placenta later on.

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Poor Seu is already a demented husk of his former self even if he makes it.

Stick to Dr. Seuss, kid

Are you sure about the matrix stuff?

Hmmm I'm sure i read that somewhere a long time ago.

Now i can't find it anywhere.
Maybe that was wrong or got forgotten.

The Matrix stuff sounds fake and weird as fuck, but I was always surprised how he somehow had western connections even when he was a nobody in Japan (before Sidonia). Considering how he had two collaborations with Marvel (Wolverine: Snikt!) and Microsoft (Halo comics) and when he was going to be the art director of that Neuromancer movie that was cancelled.

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Cyborg what? Cyborg are human. you're thinking of silicon life form

a literal cyborg traveled with Killy. hint: her name is the first 4 letters of cyborg

Well duh I meant them.

As far as i remember the silicon lifeforms have evolved from half-human cyborgs then branched off from humanity into their own entirely inhuman thing, and then wiped out the humanity except for the last few mutants and degenerates without the net genes that Killy encounters.

Cibo was human, for all purposes. Unless you somehow only care about her movie's background, where she looked more robotic than what she was.

She's a mutated 7" tall kinda-human with a radio up her ass.

Basically as normal as the people ever get in Blame!

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cyborg = human

Cyborg = cybernetic organism

If you stick a smartphone up your ass you aren't necessarily a cyborg.
To qualify as a cyborg the smartphone must become and integral and vital part that cannot be separated or distinguished from you.

can 100% human do this?

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attaching a metal arm to a human doesn't change his specie. he was born a human, he'll die a human

Cybo is more natty than say Deus Ex characters, i would say a cyborg is more into Robocop or Samuel Hayden territory.

This. Killy and Cibo are enhanced humans, but they are not that modified to be considered cyborgs. Now Sanaka is another story, I think she could be considered a cyborg, but that's because she had other origins.

Cibo is actually a transgender woman

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyborg
>According to some definitions of the term, the physical attachmentshumanityhas with even the most basic technologies have already made them cyborgs.

pacemaker freaks are cyborg as fuck

Killy becomes a far more compelling protagonist when you realize he's not a completely emotionless killing machine like most are bound to think on a first readthrough and that his lack of outward emotion just comes from countless eons of trekking through the megastructure, completely isolated and alone for vast spans of time only sparsely broken up by extremely violent and intense fights with powerful inhuman constructs. He is very capable of feeling, it's just buried under layer after layer of grit and stoicism gathered from the long and difficult life he's been made to live, the only time that emotion ever seems to shine through is when he lets that touch of madness out and goes on a highly destructive killing spree. You also see just the tiniest bit of it when the closest thing to a loved one he's ever had leaves him for good, so imperceptible it's still debated whether he shed a tear or not.
As popular as the series is I still find he's an underrated protagonist, mainly because most people seem to miss the point of his character by thinking he's a completely one-dimensional cardboard action hero.

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Killy and Sanakan are literally made out of palstic rather than meat and grow out of the wall if they get destroyed so they are a different story.

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Killy is not made of plastic, he can bleed. I think the only plastic thing he has is his arm that was replaced by the electrofishers and that's it. About Sanakan? I don't know her body composition.

I dunno how anyone could think that.
killy walks aroung the place and either helps the people he comes across or kills them rather emotionally

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Killy was fully regenerated from Lv9 Cibo's nuke explosion. So he is almost a robot.

He's mostly organic

He didn't replace his arm just re-attachet it.

Also at some point he literally grows himself a new head and then then charges up by stucking a power cable up his ass and then walks up a long flight of stairs for 300 literal years.

He must be made out of something synthetic with maybe something red or black inside (Like 2B in automata) but i'm pretty sure that's not human blood or normal meaty flesh.

As for Sanakan she can literally grow out of the floor where she wants to be, can polymorph and can also suck her legs in to grow a pair of wings.

She's made out of Nanomachies son pretty much entirely.

And Killy is basically the same as Sanakan just looks different.

I want to see a sci-fi movie directed by Hideo Kojima, art work by Tsutomu Nihei.

Chemistry classifies plastics and rubbers as organic materials.

Blame! has the concepts of silicon lifeforms in it.
That is basically an idea that there could be an entirely different non-carbon based biochemistry and hypothetically something living could be made out of complex silicone substances rather than carbon.

So i would think killy is a living thing and in a sense organic but made entirely out of synthetic materials, plastics metals, ceramics and shit.

He is not a robot. When the electrofishers carried him and healed him, they didn't find anything particularly weird with him. And if he was more robot than human, he would not have succumbed to the toxin, anyway.
Same with Cibo, they even "harvested" her organs like they did with their ancestors as per their tradition dictated. She is fully human, as well.

It was a completely different arm, that's why Killy was surprised, because it felt like plastic instead of flesh. He could tell the difference.

>It was a completely different arm, that's why Killy was surprised, because it felt like plastic instead of flesh. He could tell the difference.

Killy was surprised because after he rebooted his safeguard systems re-activated and HUD with material scanners popped up for the first time, maybe even restored some of his memory.

At the start of Blame! he doesn't remember who he is, other than he's Killy and he's looking for the genes.

He had the HUD before but he didn't understand what it all meant

Killy can survive literally being thrown into the sun, his suit his part of his body and he can pull out wires from seemingly anywhere in his body.

He's even less human than the things he encounters.

>It was a completely different arm, that's why Killy was surprised, because it felt like plastic instead of flesh. He could tell the difference.

Actually just checked.
Killy got his arm cut when he first met Cibo and she re-attacjed it with a band aid then got surprised at how quickly it healed.

After that he fought Sanakan and got poisoned with needles.
The governor commented that any human would die immediately and that he needs to be more careful with his still injured arn.

He arrives to the fishermen blacked out from the poison but with his arm in place. And then reboots after being poisoned,

He had those sensors in his brains, but it's the same thing with Cibo, those are implants yet the rest of their bodies are human.

>He's even less human than the things he encounters
If he was truly a cyborg, why he didn't was recalled by the Governors like Sanakan was?

He is from a pre-Safeguard system, the Governing Authority tells this to Cibo. Safeguards have no power over him because he's not one of them.

that's early Killy, and he REALLY liked killing Silicon Life
>that smirks when he claims he destroyed the Silicon Life nursery

>If he was truly a cyborg, why he didn't was recalled by the Governors like Sanakan was?

Killy is a special forces safeguard.
Sanakan is a regular safeguard whose job is to kill any non-humans and apparently nobody in the city qualifies as a human anymore so she kills anything that moves.

I think she just doesn't have free will and is compelled to kill anything withtout the net genes.

Killy in the other hand is on a special mission to find the net genes and no to kill everything that moves.

>that's early Killy, and he REALLY liked killing Silicon Life

The later killy doesn't grow compassionate to them either.
Remember this guy?

Sidonia looks very different though

Also the artstyle is perfect for Blame!, its a world of post-humans, they are supposed to look weird.

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But that's, partially, my point. He is basically a human that made a pact with the Authority instead of being a fully Safeguard. He is not a creation, and he is older than the majority of the creatures living there. Unless you buy the theory of Sanakan being that girl from Noise, though.

Why did he do that? Was Killy a racist?

Well he used to be a human and he kinda is a person but at this point he is made out of nanomachines son.

Kinda like Makoto Kusanagi who was a skinbag but then got literally 100% of body replaced with machinery.

>not giving up is my magic
Killy is future Asta.

Yes.
Around silicon beings watch your penis.

What are these?
Also, does anyone have the screencaps of the lore guy explaining the series?

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silicon life want the opposite of what Killy wants. They thrive in the chaotic city and if humans were to ever get the netsphere under control they were at risk of being wiped out (which they kinda were going by the "sequel" oneshot).

Although Killi DOES prevent the extermination of the silicon life in that comic as well, so i guess he just wants to remove them and fuck off to some other planet.

Yes, especially since Silicon fags are the ones who fucked up humankind to the extent their own City considers them a virus to be eradicated. Silicons are malignant cancer cells that the body (the City) doesn't recognize as foreign, invasive, or harmful, but likewise doesn't grant them authority over the whole organism, which is why Davillaluna (and Cibo earlier) tried to hack into the brain (the Net Sphere) to establish control. If I continue using biio-organism metaphors, though, I run into a problem with Killy, because something like him simply doesn't exist in an organic system. Safeguard are white blood cells, but since cancer cells (Silicon Life) register as normal, white blood cells don't react to them and don't attack them. I don't know how I'd describe Killy in that overarching paradigm, it'd be like finding out your appendix was a backup defense mechanism that hunted and killed cancer while moving itself through your bloodstream looking for a specific cell with a specific DNA nucleobase lacking in every other cell that when reactivated will restore brain function to every other organ and system of the Body entire, but obviously we're flip-flopping between macro- and micro-biology and the picture doesn't quite fit the frame (your brain doesn't talk to your cells, after all).

Anyway, I'm done rambling. Insomnia is a bitch.

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Silicon Life are terrorists on cybersteroids so it's okay to kill them

#NotAllSilicons

the last of Nihei's ink

the big Silicons

Basically anything that isn't a safeguard or a human is silicon

>Basically anything that isn't a safeguard or a human is silicon
There are some weird hybrids things like those three-eyed people Killy met before meeting Cibo.

Those are just highly mutated humans.

Say that to my face not online and see what happens.

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But when you are that mutated, could you still be considered human?

Not like Killy's penis would functional, at that point.

Sanakan is the best

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And all differing opinions must be wiped out by safguards

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Not human enough to have Net Terminal genes, at least.
At least we know he has one.

weird face

The anime could never do justice to this

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more like speciesist

The anime didn't even try, in first place.

>you will never give your USB 1200.1 link to your waifu and browse the netsphere together
Why live?

He doesn't exactly find it. Cibo and Sanakan make a science baby together with the complete genes using part of Seu's biodata among other things.

So, if I tattoo myself with a barcode or a QR code with some data that means I am already a cyborg? Because that's retarded.

Nevermind blame!, how did pic related was so fun?

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Doesn't the Blame manga take place over literal millenias where we only see the very short battles that take place in between long bouts of Killy just walking around the other 99.9999999% of the time?

More or less, the time skips are not as explicit as they are in biomega but at least the toha heavy industries arc keep itself consistent (until the time travel sorta thing).

I think Sanakan is the girl from noise. She's either Lawful Evil or Lawful Good, but she's always an enforcer, like Killy. Both "cops" of a sense.

It was Nihei fooling around and mocking his own works using common tropes and cliches in a fun way. In this era not a lot of authors can make something like that.

Hearing aids, prosthetics, quite frankly wearing glasses makes you kind of a cyborg.

>small nichee of people
is it really that small? It got reprints and a netflix movie like 15 years later.

By the time Blame! came out the era of any animator being able to do it justice was long over. It'd be great to see Oshii's rendition of it, especially in a show format. Beautiful Dreamer had a tone approaching the needed tone for Blame! and the concept of alternate realities, subjective perception of time, elongated timescapes for stories, people becoming amalgamations of their companions and the forces of their environment, etc are all up his alley.

It would've had to happen 20 years ago if it was gonna happen at all though. RIP.

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I'm sure I read at some point that both Sanakan and Killy were both safeguard prototypes the difference being Killy was an alpha version while Sanakan was a beta release under the authority of the Governors.

Yeah but the way he managed to pull it out was amazing, when I saw the synopsis I immediately thought this was retarded and could never work with these characters.

I kinda liked the old ovas.
youtube.com/watch?v=gpCzDjtmgsI&list=PLv45COrOzICUz1IY8kExLFIpZXmNLaV5j

>simply doesn't exist in an organic system
I think you've answered your question.
This is probably how artificially-made cancer exterminator cells or micro machines would behave.

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I got all of those after Sidonia got popular, he also puts Easter eggs to previous works that sometimes make it into the adaptations and having Toha heavy industries as a common point also helped spread its popularity backwards.

You would watch that
I would watch that
We all would watch 90% silent Blame! episodes.
It would be absolutely amazing

You did right user
Biomega loses it's charm right after the seed grows up. I think that is the end of volume 3 or 4. I stopped buying the volumes at that point

Is that Biomega art?

I've only started the manga and I would watch the shit out of it too, but Yea Forumsnons in this thread are self-selecting sample, don't you think?
I'm not so sure about people in general.

Killy is an ancient safeguard not just an enhanced human
You could say he is an enhanced human safeguard mix

Credits music was cool as hell. They nailed the tone and aesthetic too. Wish they would've been longer.

It's a common occurance in Nihei threads.
Any Blame! fan wouldn't have any issues watching a nigh silent Blame anime that follows the manga.
Also read it a second time a few months later.
You catch so many new things like that

No, like I said, it's Neuromancer art. Or at least some sketches from the movie that never was.

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Thanks user
I didn't know I needed Neuromancer art to calm my nerves

There is not much to show, though. I think there are only 3 pics left, including this.

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My theory is that they also high on Openness(from the Big Five).
>Also read it a second time a few months later.
Ok, I will keep it in mind.

There is no such thing, I never thought Kili was immortal.

He is one durable bastard though
I mean he literally cannot shut down until he finishes his mission

same

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Millienias is pushing it, I think. Though there's a panel somewhere that says that billions of seconds have passed or something, given what actually happens it's a few hundreds years, at most

Net Terminal Genes were artificial, in Npise we see that only tich people could buy it. It's what allows you to interface with the internet.

Seu was 7+ foot tall and could kill combat cyborgs with his bare hands.
Normal human my ass

He's made of nanites.
He rebyilds himself from melted slab after Level 9 Cibo drops a chunck of the sun's corona in him

Not that guy and Blame is one of my favourite manga but let's not fucking pretend his characters looked good in the early volumes. His art saw vast improvements in this regard by the end of course but at first Killy could fucking fit 2 additional eyes inbetween the ones he had.

I found edgy dark ambient music to be the best fit for Blame overall. Could try STALKER's ambient soundtrack too.

The strange thing is, Nihei had a completely different style if we go by Blame! Prototype.

Name my band

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Dead Silicon

Burazum!

Biomega had some really great designs that sorta went nowhere, if feels like Nihei trashed all of its work and started anew.

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>>>/lainchan/

Happy Dopey Theme Park Adventure

Whey they wearing aprons? They chefs?

I think Nihei went for a butcher kind of look, and nailed.

I want to put my genes into Cibo

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it's amazing how many times nihei can say "killy is not a safeguard" without people hearing it

Honestly I liked how in the end Sanakan wasn't the homicidal maniac that she's often portrayed as but just another office worker that wanted to get her job done.

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Her movie design was pretty nice.

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Fuck no it isn't.

I liked it enough

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Why not, it was a clean and simple design that still showed complexity and sophistication, and her height was really imposing when compared to the non digitized humans.

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I think they even stretched her out even just a bit more for her final design.

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Too plastic, /fa/ and sexed-up.

Compared to what though?

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>implying the original Cibo wasn't sexy

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The manga designs, obviously, but even your pic has far more going on than the previous one. It doesn't have a cleavage window, to begin with- it's still far too glossy and plastic in Nihei's new style, but it doesn't look like a 3D-printed fashion dress anymore.
The movie design is almost featureless but it lacks the sentient-goo texture of the safeguard body form, which it replaces with this awful chink-shit glossy plastic looking material in a chassis that's far too human.

>posting off-model redesign pics
Shiggy. And that's not the point. Post the OG if you want to show sexy cibo, but the movie design is plainly jarring in her comparison with each of Blame's phases.

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But this is Cibo Original™

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Let's all just agree that Cibo is great

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Fair enough
All Cibos are cute

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I think what they were going for in the movie was an amalgamation of all her different designs or at least before she became gigaCibo, just like the story and setting were all a collection of different parts of the story and setting.

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>this was foreshadowed by Toah Heavy Industries Cibo
Literally just realized that FUCK

How so? It's been a while since I've read Blame!

The flight suit and halo. The wings look like Toah Cibo's suit.

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It's a little sad but at the same time impressive that the setting and story of Blame! is complex yet barren at the same time that it really can't be easily translated to movie or anime form and really only suits being a manga. Even if they really put their foot down and found an appropriate studio that could do it right it would still end up either entirely too compressed or people would get bored of the endless amounts of non dialog parts that would just be landscape porn on a similar scale to lord of the rings, especially when they get to the point of the story that takes place in a vacant hole the size of Jupiter.

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the brain does talk to cells via different enzymes and hormones
and there are cancer hunting cells that kill infected tissue.
It's just that if the cancer is spread out there's no way for the body to get rid of it, but cancer gets killed all the time in the body.
If we look at a macro scale and keep the body analogy, the silicon life take up a pathetically small amount of space in the city, so they're not full blown cancer yet.

So, Cibo basically chose the body of a supermodel as her new body? Nice. To be fair I always had doubts with that, considering how Cibo Alter was the same as Cibo even when she didn't live the same life as her.

Novelization was super good.

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Well she does change bodies at least five times. Who even know how she looked before this happened.

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biomega was great
bike action, fighting, gunplay and crazy twists and turns
just not very alike blame but i liked it for what it was

If I ever find enough free time, I'll translate the notes pages and make corresponding corrections. There are many errors, omissions on the randomisgod translation pages.

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>a vacant hole the size of Jupiter
I think this part was the closest I ever got to understanding how someone with agoraphobia feels.

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Perfect VR simulation of Killy's cyber-dungeon quest with perception of the full time spent when? I want to spend hundreds of years walking around in the super structure!

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Literally impossible to model.

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>wanting to look like this

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Good luck.

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Really she's been both extravagantly tall and super short throughout the story.

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Ok fine, Blame! super structure but in real life and the ability for us to become basically immortal so that we can traverse that super structure for hundreds of years when?

I believe in humanity! We can do anything if we set our minds to it!

Thanks!

The entire existence of the City was because humanity had failed with their own creations.

cool digits

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thats some powerful, extremely rare thing to happen

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Well, it doesn't have to be that way, right? A desire to explore a huge super structure like that should be enough reason to justify creating it!

Actually, it'd make pretty decent sense for it to procedurally generate as you go, and it wouldn't have to save everything you've been through either because the Builders are constantly changing shit.

It could work like that, but it would be more like a hypercube sim more than anything.

The scale of it in space and time never sat right with me, and reduced my enjoyment of the idea a little.

If you're thinking of this one it's only about a quarter-century. I'm pretty sure there are bigger skips here and there, though, particularly right before the last chapter.

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they most definitely do some weird space-time-dimension fuckery to keep the thing from imploding on itself
hell, the material in the solar system wouldn't even get close to how much stuff is in there.

Who says they don't have builders actively sending out and scavenging for more materials on a constant basis while consuming old structures and using it to rebuild new structures.

>five
I wonder how often she used her own designs for them.

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They explicitly get their materials and energy from other dimensions using the Gravity Furnaces' space-time weirdness, if I remember right.

They walk from like, the Earth's orbit to the edges of the solar system
There was a teleport, but that only took them up to millions of kms before Jupiter.

>>your own daughter says "Dad write something fun like Naruto"

Source?

Given the fact that there are gravity furnaces, time travel, teleportation, and alternate universes, really, anything is possible.

Pretty sure the city spreads into other universes and timelines

They literally made their own heaven in the Netsphere, complete wjth reincarnation, and then they restricted access to it just be dicks

>so imperceptible it's still debated whether he shed a tear or not.
Still my favorite page in the manga, I think it's fucking incredible how the series' most emotional moment is portrayed so insignificantly. I'm convinced any other mangaka would have done a large close up on him finally crying to heighten the moment's impact, but no, Nihei relegates it to a tiny eighth of a page at best.
That more than anything convinced me of the BLAME universe's harrowing sterility

Nihei's justification of this relates to the theoretical implications of the existence of neutralinos.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutralino

>There's a neutralino-like mark drawn on the "gravity furnace" in Blame. Neutralinos are thought to compose more than 90% of this universe and are also thought to be a component of the difficult-to-discern "dark matter". Right now, institutions all over the world are performing detection experiments on the fundamental particle called the neutralino, which is electrically neutral. But, as mass has a significant effect on other [things], it should be affected by the gravitational [force]. If that is the case, shouldn't we be able to utilize gravitons? If we could control the [particle] interaction, and use it, we could draw out energy from the universe's existence itself. That is to say, to create a "field" by use of gravity and make 'windmill blades', and have the "flow" of dark matter turn the windmill blades to obtain power.

This was written in like 1999, long before the LHC, Higgs discovery etc depopularizing the MSSM.

I love that Nihei left most things pretty ambiguous. Figuring out everything is part of the fun sure enough, but the ambiguity instills a sense of mystery and wonder within the story that you just can't get any other way.

Plus, it's a great pleb filter and you can really tell who the speed readers are.

>left most things pretty ambiguous
Let's talk about that.

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Well, it's certainly a fun idea to entertain and I don't blame (heh) Nihei one bit for using that idea.

I'm looking for your dick

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having a definitive ending is good user

No, it's not.

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oh jeez

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Boring thread. Post cibos

They'd never get to the bottom, but at least he's getting closer to the top.

Thank you Asuka!

The cutest.

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Layer 373479865 was really the strangest.

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Do you think people made fun of Killy for being a manlet?

Entirely feasible.

I've read from past threads and even some comments around the web that Nihei's work was an inspiration for The Matrix, not that he actually directly helped design it. And that the source is from an interview. I never found the interview myself, but at least there are those independent comments that all reference it.

Also, to add another detail to his connection with Halo, the first Halo game, before it was called Halo: Combat Evolved, was literally codenamed "Blam!", and we all know where that comes from. Before that, the project was called Monkey Nuts, but they needed something else more respectable so they used Blam! and then finally Halo CE for the official name.
halo.fandom.com/wiki/Blam!
It's also interesting to observe, just from googling and looking at the results, that pretty much no one knows of this reference outside of literally just a few of us who have likely lurked these threads and saw a post much like mine right now. And, of course, the original creators.
It's interesting how much influence Nihei has had despite not many really realizing it.

Considering there were bioengineered humans the size of giraffes used for manual labor it probably not an issue.

Also now that I look at it, that web page doesn't seem to mention another important point which is that they ended up calling the engine behind the game the Blam! engine, and they continued to use that name until the last game I believe. The engine for Halo Infinite, while new and not called the Blam! engine anymore, also apparently still uses just a bit of old code (because why not) and retains some of the Blam! engine DNA which is cool.

>that the source is from an interview. I never found the interview myself, but at least there are those independent comments that all reference it.
That's the issue with interviews never being transcribed. I'll never understand why people haven't started in on video transcription being important to historical preservation.

But what about P-chan?

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Cute but I like A-chan better...

I want the old Nihei back. New Nihei's art is too lazy and he isn't much of a storyteller anyway.

I don't know the old stuff was really incoherent in some places, especially when half the pages were explosions.

ill never forgive nihei for what he did to knights of sidonia

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>I don't know the old stuff was really incoherent in some places
That's my point. He can't tell a story, but he can do world-building and lore.

I'm just saying that some of the older artsyle stuff needed a little more structure, especially in the more action oriented scenes.

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>artist: Tsuda Nanafushi
Nice.

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Reminder that the best Silicon life named himself "Genitalias"

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Blame! is a story about those who deny the blame and those who accept it....

Blame is the sound a gun makes spelled incorrectly (blam)

My take on the far spaced eyes was always; that it isn't just artstyle, but characters in Blame! being so far in the future and different from baseline humanity, that their face ratio is a bit "off"

Think it's a subtle, but simple way to make the people seem a bit more alien, wonder how much it was intentional or how much it was just his changing artstyle ended up like that when he did Blame!

IT IS SEALED

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THANK YOU FOR THANKING US THANKING YOU

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Owo

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Is this what losing your mind feels like?

It really is a story of everyone trying to out cowboy everyone else but our boy got the meanest fucking gun ever.

still getting his dick sucked by 2d waifu tho.

Yeah these own. The admin one is fucking fantastic.

Samurai Jack in a dyson sphere?

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Surprisingly....Sidonia.

>relate
Normalfag egomaniac shit, get the fuck out of here if you cannot enjoy your story because you can't plaster your worthless fucking ego all over it.

>that moment where Killy rages openly and just shoots a full power GBE blast upwards

what a shitty ass map

>but it doesn't look like a 3D-printed fashion dress anymore
Not him but what's wrong with 3D-printed fashion dress?

>feet controls
IMAGINE

I couldn't follow this story at all.

his Twitter. someone pull out the screenshot