This is what has become of fate

Is that stars and stripes bikini. Does it represent the absolute pounding the USA gave to Japan in WWII?

Isn't it awesome?

Yeah how dare they degrade their porn game franchise with exploitive gacha mechanics and huge anime tiddies

If it were ACTUALLY about the porn then you faggots might actually have an argument but realizing that would require both pulling your head out of your ass and cleaning the cumstains out of your skulls wouldn't it?

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>pulling your head out of your ass
Ironic

>Ironic
That word doesn't mean what you think it means faggot. Also
>Thinking the porn elements in Fate that haven't been a thing nor relevant since fucking 2005 matter enough to bring up in defense of the exploitative tactics of your shitty self-insert gachashit
I get you're drunk off anime tiddy but at least try and get some self-awareness before trying to make an argument, faggot.

>80 hour novel has 30 minutes of sex scenes
Fate was clearly always about the porn. The porn was the only reason anybody ever read it. I definitely read the original VN and didn't get into this series after FGO taught me the memes.

Somebody get these hotheads outta here

Who are you quoting?

>porn and/or sexualization is bad

Can someone tell these puritan fuckwits to take it back to America's bible belt, I'm trying to fap to anime tiddy.

No, why don't YOU fuck off back to whatever cave you crawled out of. If you're going to live in civilized society, you're going to act civilized. And that means no ogling at porn all day.

What are you even doing here, you eunuch?

Based.

Based nun fujo.

Did you think you were on Yea Forums ?

>Fatefags actually believe their franchise was at all well written or anything other than rule of cool action porn.

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What did I miss? Was it the usual "cumbrain" Yea Forumstard shitposting I've been seeing lately?

A bunch of stock meme responses.

What's the point of bitching about FGO?
just leave behind the fucking franchise, move on and cherish all the times you've enjoyed the original novels, tsukihime and mahoyo
at this point I'll just whatever shit Fate pumps out casually and drop on until Strange fake ends

>Evatard thinks his franchise anything deep

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>

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Because Fate autists are under the impression that their precious VN was anything special and took it way more seriously than was ever intended.

>dude lets like take one of our most precious characters and give her giant tits so that these retards will give us even more of their money and when the money tap slows down just put her in a bunny suit
And yet it was still way better than what it's become today.

Personally? I just want FGOtards see it for what it is instead of trying to defend it like a starved dog trying to keep a rotted piece of meat all to itself.

Then explain, why are you so butthurt?
>Gachashit
>Exploitative tactics
That's Yea Forums's job. We only care about the anime, manga and doujins, and so far, they've been great to seeviceable.

>Didn't even mention anything about Eva
You okay, user?

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>Saber
>Precious character
I swear,fatefags have only ever read VN's.

Evafags are known to instigate console wars, and are incredibly insecure just like you are.

nothing spawned from FGO has even come close to "great"

I dont even like Fate that much but it had some legit value and heart to it unlike what FGO is doing today.

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>FGO
>Great
Nah.

You'll never get to convince any FGOtard, all of their brains are rotten after hours of farming, autistic gachashit and hours of jerking off to doujins only to repeat the same cycle every day

I *like* Fate. I just don't take it super seriously like most hardcore Fate autists do. They're like the Star Wars fans of Japanese media.

Subjective. Have seen more constructive discussion from FGO and Case Files threads than anything FSNfags and their autistic wormslut threads have done the entire decade.

Reminder that FSN is one of the most successful franchises in world history, and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.

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FGO****
I doubt the original novels ever made a more than billion
and the fate/extra series sold jack shit

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the girl in op isn't seiba tho

All that same franchise.

What does that have to do with anything, you fucking idiot? Just because the discussion revolving around a work is occasionally constructive doesn't make the work itself higher quality than it actually is.

So just like the Fate VN's then?

No, FSN is a great VN.

>getting angry about your favorite cheesy eroge being called what it actually is

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>getting angry about your favorite waifu simulator being called what it actually is

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Care to give actual arguments on why F/SN is a bad VN?
lol

>getting angry

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It means there are people who find it interesting enough to discuss it in a civil way without shitflinging or waifu shitposting. Which wouldn't happen if it really were as bad as you claim it is.
Granted, FSN is better, but FSN being good doesn't make FGO bad. But you people love to shittalk just using the gacha as an excuse, yet get angry when FGOfags retaliate by pointing out FSN being an eroge.

>obnoxious fatefags blown clean off their high horse
Feels great

>one month of this
You niggers never learn

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> Fatefag "muh 2005 porn game novel had a story" somehow surprised that the massively more successful gacha game is highly sexualized, despite the fact that the original novel had drinking semen be an actual plot point to replenish mana

pottery

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>Has there ever been a bigger and more abused cashcow?
Does Marvel and Star Wars count?

And not to mention the magic system is stupid.

Looks kind of tasty, to be honest.

Fate is literally twice the length of LotR and takes over 100 hours to read with a combined 40-60 minutes of that being porn but no I guess it's just porn with plot. Especially since the porn was put in to boost sales.

But no its just porn with plot I guess

First of all, you're wrong. The vast majority of FGO "discussion" I've seen on any board has been nothing but posting scantily clad titty monsters and lolis with a couple of autists arguing about the game's canon sprinkled in between. I hardly ever see this supposedly constructive discourse., and when I do it doesn't last long.

Second of all, the gacha aspect isn't an "excuse." Locking characters behind a randomized paywall makes it a bad game whether you like it or not. Stop trying to defend this shit when they could have easily made another VN for FGO's """""story""""".

There are a shit ton of fantasy books that are as long, or longer than LOTR. All of them are just as shit as Fate. Length means jack shit.

Why does Musashi have a gun?

RotK snd the segoku era?

FGO's ""story"" is legitimately less retarded than FSN's otaku-filled diatribe of waifufagging and chunni "muh hero of justice" autism. How do you people even defend that fucking shit as dignified storytelling? FGO is, at least, a more honest rule-of-cool shounenshit. Boring, but respectable.

Star Wars

She's in America. That's literally the reason.

>I hardly ever see.
There have been threads discussing the FGO story up until the lostbelts when the Babylonia anime aired. Of course, that is when they're not invaded by autists hollering "fuck gachashit".
>makes it a bad game whether you like it or not.
Again, we're not on fucking Yea Forums. We have tons of manga, side material and soon a fucking anime to get on board.
But come on, let's see you criticize the story. And you must make it sound more retarded than King Arthur being a girl with a magical futa dick, magical penis shaped worms and semen being a valid way to replenish prana.
>Any board
Of course you'd see nothing but that on Yea Forums and /alter/, crossboarder.

>Babylonia anime aired
*I meant PV, my bad.

>And you must make it sound more retarded than King Arthur being a girl with a magical futa dick, magical penis shaped worms and semen being a valid way to replenish prana.
I don't have to, the entire premise of some shitty cardboard self insert being the last master around because PANDERING is still infinitely worse.

Oh yeah, absolutely. It's fucking TERRIBLE that FGO did away with all the vapid characterization of characters like Rin, Saber and Shirou and -- SHOCK, GASP -- substituted them with a neutral existence that would just provide a backdrop to the things real people and not bugmen wannabe actually care about in Fate: world-building, powerlevels, mythological references, ancient monsters and cool abilities. The only interesting thing about ever was its premise as a nip DnD with historical figures; FGO simply cut out all the retarded excess that always bogged the series down. No wonder it's what made it actually thrive.

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>because PANDERING is still infinitely worse.
How is the FGO MC being the last Master just because of pure coincidence pandering, but Shiki's super rare and special Mystic Eyes of Death Perception and Shirou being able to asspull a Reality Marble not?

You don't understand, user. Those extraneous details were vital to the characterization and depth of these well-written characters. How would Saber's character ever have worked if we didn't know she was a futa?

>It's fucking TERRIBLE that FGO did away with all the vapid characterization of characters like Rin, Saber and Shirou
You mean original characters that Natsu at least attempted to write in a compelling way?
>SHOCK, GASP
cringe
>substituted them with a neutral existence that would just provide a backdrop to the things real people and not bugmen wannabe actually care about in Fate: world-building, powerlevels, mythological references, ancient monsters and cool abilities
The characters were the best thing about FSN, sorry you were too much of a brainlet to even grasp that much and instead prefer MUH REALITY WARPING NP AND SCANTILY CLAD HISTORICAL FIGURES THAT LOVE MY SELF INSERT.
>FGO simply cut out all the retarded excess that always bogged the series down
You mean the stuff that made it actually stand out as a halfway decent narrative from start to finish as opposed to a shitty lootbox simulator that added the story as an after thought.
>No wonder it's what made it actually thrive
You actually think FGO's success comes from its story? You really are a fucking idiot.
Shiki and Shirou are actual characters.
>reddit tier dog piling
not sure what else I expected from this thread

>To be fair, you need to have a high IQ to understand Fate
Holy shit, do you even read anything other than VN's? Fate's characters are not that great and no amount of poorly translated prose will change that.

>Shiki and Shirou are actual characters.
If you can call being a one trick pony being a character.
>MUH REALITY WARPING NP AND SCANTILY CLAD HISTORICAL FIGURES THAT LOVE MY SELF INSERT
It was exactly the same shit on FSN. Self inserting targets have just changed over the years.
And still not seeing a single reason why you call FGO story bad without resorting to stuff that can be summarized as "I don't like it".

I never claimed it was high art, I'm merely pointing out the fact that despite it being pretty low on the complexity scale you are apparently still too stupid to appreciate it for the enjoyable read it is.

>If you can call being a one trick pony being a character
>three different character arcs for the same protag is being a one trick pony
Just stop.

Most people's definition of "enjoyable reading" does not include a 60+ hour poorly translated VN that makes you read a shitty first route.

Which scantily clad historical figure are you referring to? Saber is the only one that loves Shirou in the original and she isn't scantily clad. And Shirou isn't a self insert.

What happened?!

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>It was exactly the same shit on FSN.
It literally wasn't. Did you even read the original VN you fucking tertiary?

Maybe you should stop reading bad translations and actually learn Japanese. As if a fan translation was ever an objective measure of a work's quality.

new babt visual

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> You mean original characters that Natsu at least attempted to write in a compelling way?
Attempted and failed. Glad you noticed.
> cringe
s-so based
> The characters were the best thing about FSN
Stop, stop, stop. I need to collect my sides before we continue.
> You mean the stuff that made it actually stand out as a halfway decent narrative
I said FUCKING YAMERO
> You actually think FGO's success comes from its story?
From the lack thereof, duh.

>>If you can call being a one trick pony being a character
>>three different character arcs for the same protag is being a one trick pony
Three character arcs dedicated to his totally unreasonable hero autism, which is also his sole defining trait. If you like Shirou, I won't blame you, but his whole personality is nothing but a single character trait exaggerated to the limit, all sprinkled with exactly the same chuuni stuff that characterize Type Moon works.
Funnily enough, it's in the side material like Carnival Phantasm and the Emiya cooking show, which he actually shows a semblance of a personality. But you don't like those either, don't you? God forbid they make the King of Knights dress as a maid. That'd be so out of character.
I did, thank you very much for memeing me into wasting 80 hours of my life.

No Gudako, no good.

>buzzwords!: the post
you sure showed me

>Still no Ishtar feet
When will the teasing end?

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> j-just learn japanese to enjoy the high-IQ storytelling of the 80-hour chunnifest FSN user, of course you'd miss a ton of important subtleties and clever storytelling devices otherwise

the ABSOLUTE STATE

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>J-just learn a completely different language. It's totally worth it to read a mediocre VN, honest

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Why do you faggots fall for the bait every single time. All these vague arguments about poor characterization are just ways for a troll to protect himself from actual criticsm. Most of this thread reads like someone read the plot on a wiki. Don't engage this stupid shit

Fate/Zero is the only good thing in this franchise

There's nothing vague about Nasu being an abysmal writer

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Good job proving his point.

You are memeing

FSNfags are worse than DBspics

Let's not go that far. Nothing on Yea Forums is worse than shounenshitters.

Is the point that Nasu's work has always been filled with absolutely terrible narration in all its facets? That the entire theme of his original main character was a gigantic pile of nonsense words and concepts recognizably patched poorly together in a hurried attempt to produce a theme without actually weaving a real narrative around it and, instead, blatantly spelling it out in the most obvious manner? There isn't storytelling more blunt-force-shit than Shirou'd retarded ass "Hero" arcs.

This doesn't work when there's actually semi-competent storytelling to compare it to with okayish dialogue like Zero.

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>I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about so I'm just gonna fling shit like the raging faggot I am: The Post.

>Zerofag
Well that explains everything.

True. They're still not as bad HxHfags or AoTvirgins

Too far man, too far.

>I can't argue against it so I'll just call him a faggot, that'll show him.

This thread is full of either:

>Fate is brain dead porn
or
>Fate is a literary masterpiece

And no in between. It isn't schlock and it isn't Dostoevsky. Calm down you spergs.
Saber is best girl.

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Fuck off, Gil.

>arguing with a subhuman 80-IQ retard who cant even grasp extremly basic shit
Haha cute. But no thanks, bro.

The war is lost
The treaty signed

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I'm convinced that you're an ESL pretending you know how to read English. Cause at no point in the VN did I feel like I was in a word salad of meaninglessness. Only felt like I was witnessing a lot of cooking. Look, if F/SN is to hard for you to read, start with NekoPara, okay?

I hate gachashit so damn much. When will it end?

How about read actual books?

When lonely autists stop dumping hundreds of dollars for a chance at a 2d girl that would in reality find them repulsive.
So never.

>Giving a shit about Fate beyond the original VN

Which actual books can you read if you dont understand F/SN?

It's a character study about what it means to be a hero first and foremost.
This is drilled into your head so thoroughly you might actually be retarded if you think the "action porn" is the focus.

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You can enjoy visual novels and read actual books at the same time user. It's all just words on a page/screen trying to convey various ideas, feelings, and intent.

>He can't enjoy multiple kinds of media.
Look at this child, so concerned about how others perceive him.

Why doesn't TM try to localize the original VN? Maybe even put it on Steam perhaps? They already have a SFW version with Realta Nua.

>Has there ever been a bigger and more abused cashcow?
Superman? The only character in history that has that much merch besides him is Mickey Mouse.

It looks less like armor and more like something out of SRW, Gunleon or something

Yeah the Mirror-Moon translation is serviceable but not good enough. It mistranslates a lot.

>It's a character study about what it means to be a hero first and foremost.
I mean in a juvenille, chuuni way yeah

>I mean in a juvenille,
Did you read the VN or did all your info come from secondary sources and word of mouth? The three routes work together like "difficulty" modes, challenging Shirou's ideal to save everyone. The heaven's feel route in particular creates a scenario that's impossible for everyone to be saved and explores the idea of compromise, favoritism and human coping mechanisms.

If that's not mature I'm not sure what you want.
Are you about to reply in a vague, troll-like way again instead of arguing?

>Gundam
>Pokemon
>Kancolle
>Madoka Magica
>Azur Lane

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>*giving a shit about fate

Fucking LOL. Let's be clear here bigot. You are the one who is immature. You are the one who doesn't belong on the board. You are the one whose view is tolerated less and less every day so fuck you and your outdated ideas of what is normal and OK.

I don't need you judging me and I reject your ability to do so. But I will fucking judge you - you fucking hateful bigot. The board will be better off when people like you are finally driven away and the rest of us can be free to be who we are instead of playing shut up for you.

Every day is one day closer to you being driven away. Every day your fucking view is less tolerated for the hateful shit that it is. And you got nothing to say in response to any of this other than to just insult me and say hateful shit like "vague troll-like way".

I got none of that for you pal. Not one fucking bit. Because I want you alive and well to see the day you no longer have a place in this board and you are the one stuck looking from the outside in as everyone else has a good time.

You know what? I was feeling pretty down in my first post. But I'm feeling pretty good right now. Fuck you bigot, you are the one that is wrong and outdated. Not me.

He obviously wants Zero everyone is crying and suffering by the end. With the setting being dark and gritty and mature because he's a real adult with complex and deep tastes otherwise the surprising maturity of FSN themes dont matter no matter how well they're woven into the narrative.

Not same guy but whoa that's not exactly a mature response their chief. Go chill and order yourself a pizza or something okay? You seem like you need it. Not even being an asshole I'm legit worried about you user.

I uhhh, what?

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>being this mad over my 3deep5u pornography

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I think this is a pasta but i'm not sure

>this entire thread
the absolute state of paypigs

>you fucking hateful bigot.
I was acting spiteful in response to you being a childish little faggot. You get what you give, mate. You act like an asshole, you get treated like one. That's how respect works.

top pasta

Hey, calm down a bit, user. It's just a differing opinion on a work of fiction - nothing to get so worked up and defensive about. Just take a minute to gather yourself and get back on the horse, you'll be okay.

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Fate was never that fucking good

Lol at this poorly formatted tg copypasta. Imagine being so assblasted that you got wrecked in this thread that you drop this

US numbers mean fuckall. FGO makes so much money in Japan that any pittance NA makes is pure profit.

Assblasted by a Fatefag, of all things.

>zerofag
>being braindead
Why I'm not surprised

Never.
Most people at this point are pretty much hardwired to respond to the little hits of dopamine that stuff like gachashit provides. Years of Skinner box conditioning has fucked a lot of people. Toss in crippling loneliness and an ever present sense of existential dread and you have a marketers wet dream.

I know, right? Fate never did shitty fanservice swimsuit scenes before FGO!

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Not him. Actually, FGO became a hit after the social media word of mouth after part 1 finale. It was called a social media phenomena that got the game a massive amount of players in 2017. This is all in Nasu's latest interview afaik. He feels pressured to repeat that in part 2.
The players got upset and plenty left and sales dropped after being dicked around with LB4, so it proves the fanservice and events can't substain them. They enhance FGO and get whales to whale but the players are in for the main story.

ITT: Either FSN is god's gift to man and FGO is the worst thing ever or Fate is literrally just soft core porn and erotica. Also, lewdness and intellectualism are diametrically opposed
Nuance is hard for people on Yea Forums

Nobody is saying it's a literary masterpiece. They're telling you it's merits beyond being porn. Stop exaggerating.

You're allowed to praise something without saying it's "THE BEST THING EVER." Early (pre-/Extra) Fate is good.

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w-what is that image...

MagiReco is good.

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A cute girl playing with her dog, what's the issue?

have you even played extra?

This is great writing. Satire at its finest.

>any gacha shit
>good

True though.
Caligula is a 3 hour feature film but 20 mins of fellatio and cun swallowing makes it what it is

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>have you even played extra?
Yeah my friend gave me his old PSP with a dead pixel in the corner (didn't bother me) and I immediately downloaded /Extra and played through it (Archer for first play through, stopped halfway on NG+ with Saber out of sheer boredom).
The only thing that kept me going is my pure Archer fanboyism. The combat was fucking dogshit and the story was the most basic tourney excuse ever.
Mooncell is boring.

I have Fate/Extella and /Extella Link too and Extella ALMOST had a good story going but the main character is still a boring, lifeless self-insert surrounded by a harem of slutty idiots so it fell short. /Extella Link is just fucking embarrassing.

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Saber is so fucking cute holy shit.

I'm playing the Fate route(again) and while she is still cute sometimes she says shit that makes me want to slap her.
>Hey Shirou don't jump in front of me to save me from Berserker again that's stupid.
>What's that? You were confused and acted on instinct? Next time you'll probably be too scared to get between us? Coward.

Said no-one ever.

FIFA.
Now close this worthless thread.

JIIINNNN!!

>most basic tourney excuse ever
AI of a dead guy hijacks the moon supercomputer attempt at gathering data to create an unending war that will create progress in a world where a one world order is trying to control everything by styming progress is basic?
I've played extella link and I though it was alright

what was wrong with lb4?

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You mean the fact that it took 6 months?

Ah ok I thought it was about the story, I wouldn't notice how long it took since I barely play this trash anymore

>meming with a pasta means you're assblasted
what

I'd imagine a big problem with FGO is that the main story events get longer and more extravagant so it takes longer to finish them.

Thanks to MagiReco, Madoka is coming back.

Says plenty of people including Ume.

Is there an official illustration of Magi*Mari?

don't think so

God is dead and we deserve to die.

Gundam probably matters more since, aside from being the oldest one, it's the one that most has a problem being a serious show with serious themes undercut by its crass commercial nature by its owners. Gundam exists to sell toys of deadly war machines routine used to try press an anti-war theme in the show itself. Everything else is largely just a normal show that got big so its been continuously pimped out. Except maybe Madoka.

Fate is just some smallish game with serious themes done by these auteur indie dudes that got big and is now running the otaku money train. It's more of a shame than something like fucking Kancolle which started out as waifubait mobage money grubbing, but the disconnect isn't as fundamental as Gundam. Though of course Gundam started out with the tension between madman Tomino trying to make a serious war story and him only being able to do it because Sunrise wanted to sell plastic crap. Still, I think Gundam's the bigger abuse cashcow, if only because it continues to be a weird problem. Fate at least stopped pretending.

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In Tomino's case it doesn't help that the actual shows he worked on have aged the worst out of all UC Gundam's to the point that it's cringe inducing watching them now unless you grew up on it. The toys and games obviously don't have this problem so they get to endure while the anti-war messages are lost on younger audiences.

And that's not even getting into installments like G and Build Fighters which largely wear their toy commercial status proudly on their sleeves and tend to be the most accessible probably because of this fact. Not helped at by most of the recent "serious" Gundam shows being trash.

Gundam as a franchise is pretty fucked.

This is what it was years before that. It's really a shame that they don't do official porn with their characters anymore.

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>This is what has become of fate

Are you implying that it was any better before, that it wasn't written by some talentless hacks and it wasn't shit tier graphomania for braindead teenagers?

Because anyone who actually values good literature would never notice the difference in your jap trash.
It's just capeshit made by japs.

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they realized just making pretty jrpg images and putting them into a casino slot machine made more money. much more money. can you blame them?

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They changed a lot in their original idea and added porn just for the sake of the sales back then, so it's not so surprising that they abusing their own old popular characters and release tons of new fanservice stuff for the sake of profit right now. From this stand point nothing really changed, TM just gets bigger.

But Tomino's Gundam is the only Gundam worth watching.

I don't care as long as they keep producing these kind of grade A lolis.

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oh no, an anonymous poster on an image board disagrees with my opinion, time to kill myself

seethe more faggot

I don't follow fate but who is this supposed to be?
George washington? Abraham lincoln?

>whole thread is seething retards thinking their opinion matters at all
KEK

Seethe levels are off the charts with this retard

You blind motherfucker

I already said that I didn't follow fate.

Nigger it's literally in the filename why'd you think I called you blind?

And that's a good thing!

Read some actual literature, retarded manchild.

>Azur Lane
>Cash cow
What are you on about?

Why is Musashi a girl?

>azurlane chink shit
>Cash cow
>When their revenue in the whole years is not even 1/10 of fate money make in one month
>Never trending on Twitter
???

whore of babylon

>Compare lesser otaku moeshit like AL, kancolle to literal fucking giant like Gundam and pokemon
>Shit is not even a cash cow
Nigga you high or some shit?

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2hu

>Has there ever been a bigger and more abused cashcow?
>Azur Lane
>Kancolle
The fuck? Shit barely making any money and it's only popular with the creepy weeaboo audience

Let me guess, you're gonna post the 2 upcoming gachas as proof aren't you?

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the whole purpose of azurlane is to milk money. that's the point when talking about 'cash cow', not if they're successful, that's another thing.

wait there's even another gacha beside cannonball en route? Talk about milking a franchise

How can I make my indie VN earning 12 billions USD every months? Should I try patreon?

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Granblue Fantasy's story is unarguably better and that's entirely character focused. Even the posters in both the FGO generals say Babylon was the last time FGO had good story then cratered.

Only for the memes

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Then it isn't cash cow, cash cow mean a successful franchise making billion of dollary. Azurlane is just your average otaku pandering trash like thousand of other pandering trash

>not if they're successful, that's another thing
Well, no. Success of some level is inherent to being a cashcow, because it needs to have milk to actually be milked for. Relatively speaking, Sonic is a cashcow even if it's not Pokemon. It's what Sega consistently milks to get money. Even though Sonic is seen as a failure, monetarily it still makes a good amount of money. It's less successful than many other franchises, but it's still successful enough to not only keep going but be more worthwhile an investment for Sega than other, more respected, properties.

A cashcow has to be successful, and consistently so, or else it stops being a cashcow.

make it at least decent, gorilla market it through chans

>implying there's something wrong with guns
Please. Gunblades are fantastic.
>bigger
Yes. There's bigger.
>more abused
Yes. There's been more abused.

I'm sure everyone is really upset a VN that was only REALLY popular because of the girls and nature of historical/fictional figures fighting each other is having more girls and historical figures fighting each other.

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It's Chiaki Morosawa's fault. had she been professional enough, CE (SEED/Destiny) wouldn't have been a dead end. Sabotaging Shinn and Cagalli ruined the whole show.

Not like it wasn't shit to begin with.
They could've done the same with most other franchises and probably get some similar degree of success. Its simply a matter of investment and timing.

LB4 was a big hit. The issue was that the staff took too fucking long writing it and the game was losing money due to the stagnation before the event.

FGO sunk to #31 on the gacha sales list before they officially announced LB4's release date. Then it jumped back into the top 10.

You are confusing Nero with Artoria user.

>NA
Who cares. Show the worldwide charts.

Unironically based. Monomaniac Cumbrains can fuck off.

What are you talking about user. What made Fate popular was the complex characterization of Shirou's kantian moral framework clashing with Archer's utilitarian one. Clearly your IQ isn't high enough to understand what's actually great and compelling in Fate.

Oh how stupid of me. Someone like me would never understand how a random japanese boy has an origin of a sword, but is changed through a british fictional genderbended king's scabbard.

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in a civilised society adults don't watch cartoons.
you're a decadent, i'm a decadent. the medium is an expression of decadence.

Since when has our society been civilized? We're still killing people over petty disputes and money.

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