How come Kishitmoto gets to make a new WSJ manga nobody likes but he doesn't?

Hey guys what about Yoshio Sawai lol

SEMEN REEKER

Because he actively hates WSJ after the editors told him to wrap up faster than he wanted

>source: my ass

Kubo is a great artist, but not so great at creating a good story. The Soul Society arc was just a fluke.

Attached: Oh well (transparent version).png (554x439, 210K)

Kubo never made anything of value

Meme opinion

Bleach's story was good though

See

I always got the feeling Kubo and Shueisha didn't really get along
I'd be willing to bet if he did another manga he'd find another publisher

Kishimoto came back in 4 years since the end of Naruto.
Beach final was 3 years ago, so it's still soon.

>bleach being bad is a meme
>bleach being good is a meme
So whats the truth?

Oh that makes sense
Well at least 2020 is soon, I just gotta resist suicide a bit longer

Attached: IBcDRF7.jpg (203x126, 7K)

You're close to the truth
The real truth is that Bleach is, itself, a meme

It’s mediocre

Because he works with the big boys at Sega. Next Question

* retard alert *

O MY UNRELEASED SWORD
>good guy is losing
O MY SHIKAI
>bad guy shows his bankai, good guy is losing
O MY BANKAI
>good guy one-shots the bad guy

Every Bleach fight ever ladies and gentlemen

RENTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BITCH

Attached: ICHILUL.jpg (1557x1168, 141K)

Rukia vs Aaroniero

He should have gone into the doujinshi business

Retard

Bleach was the nigger of big three

But Naruto has the most third worlder and shitskin fans

So your mom gets fucked by Bleach every night?

>What should I say whenever someone is criticizing my previous Bleach?
>I-I guess I should say "RENT FREE!" that would show em.
Why would a manga with a shitty as ending and bad writing be living rent free in anyone's head?

>enters this thread
>I DONT HAVE IT RENT FREE IN MY HEAD I DONT I DONT I DONT
Cope

>the new Sakura Wars is actually making me consider buying a snoystation QUADRUPLE
fuggg

Attached: shinsakurawars4.png (1566x936, 1.91M)

especially the mini arcs, like everything but the rain

Why? Even if Kubo designed he's not the writer so its useless

Because Kubo quit making Bleach because of his health and only does designs for games and people now and short stories.

>Lmao your manga is shit, Bleachfags. Shit ending
>RENT FREE RENT FREE RENT FREE IN YOUR HEAD NOT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
This is fun.

>>>>>enters this thread
>I DONT HAVE IT RENT FREE IN MY HEAD I DONT I DONT I DONT
Cope more

>he's not the writer
...and here's why that's a good thing.

Attached: someone asks if they should start reading Bleach.jpg (321x347, 51K)

I didn't know he did Bobobo spinoffs after Shin until maybe a month ago. Even then they're quite old.

>and here's why that's a good thing
???

Man, nothing you people say can make me not love Bleach the most.
Maybe it's nostalgia and if I'd watch it for the first time as a grown ass man I'd have a different opinion, but I can't help not loving Bleach and based Ichigo. No other shonen series hypes shit up as much as bleach did. >That fucking banger OST.
>Character on the verge of defeat mutters "bankai"
HNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG
I'm sorry, no other sjump series makes me feel like Bleach did, even if I'm aware of its shortcomings.

Attached: new-ichigo-look-xcution-fullbring-powers-dailyanimeart1.png (1773x1300, 244K)

naruto was more successful than bleach and outside of japan is like the second most popular manga ever (after dragon ball), while kubo fucked them other and was ill for a lot of time. it's logical

Coming from someone who hated Bleach’s final arc and God awful ending. It will always have a special place in my heart when I watched and loved all those hnnng moments as a teenager.

>thread about Kubo
>someone comes in, mocks his main work
>"rent freee"
Why are Bleachfags so retarded?

This. It had its flaws but what it did well, it did brilliantly. Positives outweigh the negatives

Rent free

Kubo had enough of WSJ's and the industry's faggotry. He's a fashion designer now and doesn't give a shit about making mango.

Are you a pokemon?

What fashion did he design? Where can I buy it?

But the Yoruichi's ass chapter fix all bleach bruh

Alquiler gratis mi amigo

Doing character design for a game franchise more than a decade past its expiration rate isn't being a fashion designer, user.

Triple dobles de verdad

fuck off back to Hueco Mundo

How is kubo richer despite Naruto being more popular?

There's a webpage ranking celebrities by net worth and Kubo supposedly is much richer than Kishi. But I never examined how they estimated it, so hard to say for me. Anyway, if it is true, then there's multitude of possibilites, he could have bigger slice of the cake than Kishi or he could be just better at handling money (investments and shit).

All I heard was that Kubo makes more money from merchandise than Kishi does

>he could have bigger slice of the cake than Kishi
This. He gets a bigger cut from merchandize sales in exchange of getting less from volumes sales

No one ever provided any kind of a source on that, I believe, people are just guessing based on that one site and the echochamber does the rest.

Okay, I'll try again. Source?

unironically true

Because Kubo's hard to work with
More importantly, he doesn't wanna. Bleach merch money'll keep him set for life, and he can cash in on his nostalgia factor by attaching his widely recognized name to some project further down the line. Niggas set.

More like it was a complete story he'd had tons of time to have all worked out before his employment at Shounen Jump. He probably could have followed it up with even higher quality arcs if he hadn't been working in an industry that sees punishing work schedules as a norm

>More like it was a complete story he'd had tons of time to have all worked out before his employment at Shounen Jump.
No, he was making shit up on the fly as always if not more. It just happened to fit together better, part of it is probably a fresher mind and lack of real continuity baggage to deal with throughout the arc.

Yeah, relevance?

Extremely based.

FPWP

He won't impress anybody as long as he keeps blatantly rehashing Bleach.

Either he does something brand new, or bust.

Hell, he set nice foundations with the Burn The Witch characters, only to go and ruining it by using the Bleach setting and universe.

How the fuck does the last page saying bleach affect the rest of the one shot?

Yknow what, forget I made this post. I just realized that that line of thinking is what created Boruto.

fpbp and true and it's not because Kishimoto is a good writer

Then why for?

His is bidding his time

Yea Forums shall whorship Kubo once more

because he is a hack? he suggested some stuff accoding to the producer of the game tho

But he is /ourhack/

>Kishimoto
>Better than Kubo

Is that why Kishimoto's story is about a self made hypocrite who destroys his own preachy narrative by being the most heritage riddled, spiritually connected fucker out there?

Kubo is the better writer. Kishimoto is only pushed for

One of Kubo's interviews said that he lives in the Japanese equivalent of Beverly Hills aka Roppongi hills.

The final arc had to be the Quincy though. Kubo didn't write them in the third arc (between Soul Society and Arrancar arc) and thus the series wouldn't have been finished.

Shueshia would have grabbed his work and made a shitty sequel series with it.

>Kazui protagonist
>Yhwach and Quincy catalyst for sequel
>Ichigo is relegated to background like Naruto in Boruto
>More shit arcs like Shihoin or Noble Family arcs, Hell, Zanpakutou Rebelling, Muken, etc being spammed to make more money

Glad this shit didn't happen and Bleach got away before shit hit the fan like it did with Naruto/Dragonball/Shaman King.

Attached: yoruichi-smiles.png (475x971, 99K)

>pic related is the type of fanbase bleach has

Attached: hqdefault.jpg (480x360, 14K)

>a single person means the entire group is exactly the same

...

That isn't/pol/, that guy is some Bleachfag who started crying after it got axed

>self made hypocrite
Try and justify a single argument he make in the video.

I really miss bleach

>Naruto: "I'm going to be Hokage! and I will work hard to prove I earned it!"

>Neji: "Hokages are born, not made"

>Naruto: "Oh yeah! I'll SHOW YOU!"

>Proceeds to be the son of the 4th Hokage
>Proceeds to be the son of the previous 9 tails host
>proceeds to be the ninja chosen one
>Proceeds to be the reincarnation of one of the sage of six paths sons

Not that hard if you just do a bit of reading comprehension. Get fucked Narutard

>some Bleachfag who started crying
>implying you dont cry when your dad beats you up

At the very least Aizen managed to out-troll somebody again before the series ended.

Meme post

AKA you have no counter argument.

Nice of you to admit defeat

>smug 13 year old bullies and lectures 12 year old throughout their fight
>12 year old finally snaps and says something grandiose about defying destiny
>wtf why doesn't he live up to the ideals he espoused in a blind rage as a child???
Naruto doesn't even dispute it the first time Neji says Hokage are born, not made. But Neji keeps egging him on throughout the entire fight while beating his ass, of course he's going to reach the breaking point eventually and say something stupid. Until that point he actually says reasonable things, all he says is stuff like "don't call people failures" and "Hinata is suffering too".

His only worth is as an artist and character designer, so as of right now he's following that route.

Attached: New-Sakura-Wars-Characters-feature.jpg (1280x719, 538K)

Narutards seething I see.

A story about how hard work is suppose to overcome natural talent with a main character who preaches how his hard work will earn him the right to be Hokage should be ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

If the MC becomes what he preaches against, then he's a hypocrite. Simple as that

Madara getting a asspull power everytime is also a meme but is true none the less

>didn't even get to design all the characters

>His only worth is as an artist and character designer

Which is why Kubo's series became one of the biggest influences in manga history and part of the Big 3 generation.

GTFO of here. What you said only describes Hiro Mashima who has tried to copy The Big 3 but has gotten NOWHERE near the success or impact on his softcore porn manga

Because he probably because he doesn't want to? What type of retarded question is this?

I thought he was responsible for those 6

Attached: D3S1zKkWwAAyciY.jpg (1440x1080, 454K)

Good thing the story wasn't about that then

>Good thing I didn't pay attention to Naruto's story

Fixed for you

>His only worth is as an artist and character designer,
unironically a meme opinion

>tfw Aizen never got a proper closure
>tfw no alternate timeline where Orihime goes down and "rejects" the Hogyoku from Aizen embedding it in one of her tits

I've got no personal stake in this shit, I just like his art style and designs. I read bleach years ago and dropped it like I did with all the long running stuff.

there are other character done by that one ex Kyoani designer(she did the k-on designs) and her brother, the SAO guy

You don't realize that both villains and the heroes are often hypocrites for the theme that is explored in the arc in Naruto,it has always been the case since Zabuza arc. It's because exploring Human hypocrisy is it's main theme.

Doing character designs for Sakura Wars seems like an overall better gig.

It was a major theme during the chunin exams but Gai/Lee aside... really only during the chunin exams. While hard work was a thing throughout the whole series, this "hard work vs. talent" wasn't present in Zabuza arc. Or in Tsunade arc. Or Sasuke "rescue". Gaara rescue. etc. If you want to look for actual themes present throughout the series, you have revenge cycles and more generally fucked up world creating people who fuck it up even more, new generation who needs to be protected to fix the errors of the old one in turn and also connected to all of this is the theme of redemption. "Chosen one" bullshit was unnecessary, but it isn't really as bad as some people make it out to be.

Kubo should have made Killa La Kill
Imagine

>full body fishnet on the right
Hot

Madara is a special case, he solo ruined the entire series. Even the first moment he appears on screen is a fucking asspull.
>well established that edo tenseis have the form they had when they died
>sarutobi comes back as an old man, for example
>madara comes back in his prime even though he died a hundred year old man

A single game means nothing

Thinking that someone who preaches hard work is hypocrite just because he turns out to be gifted by fate YEARS LATER is peak retardation.

>he solo ruined the entire series
The series was ruined well beforehand really, Pain/Kage summit was the point of no return.

Not to mention Lee's crowning achievement of hard work is opening five gates and doing absolutely nothing to Gaara. Then one month later genius Sasuke who previously jobbed to Lee has Lee-tier speed and draws blood from Gaara.

I wonder if he considered just doing manga adaptations of LNs and Anime after or if he even acknowledged his shortcomings and reasons for his downfall at all..

>how hard work is suppose to overcome natural talent
show me a single panel where this is stated

Naruto even states that he is more "special" than Neji is.

Attached: 0103-007.jpg (1066x1600, 333K)

Now it's you who's memeing, Sasuke was explicitly noted to be inferior due to not having Lee's stamina build over his training time even if he could keep up for a while. And Lee was a hard work autist for a year or two at the time.

Only non-redpilled Bleachfags disagree with this.

Nigga has good tastes. Seethe harder wh*toid.

I think this thread need more based opinions.
>Hunter-chads raise up!

Attached: fff.jpg (186x271, 9K)

IT'S LITERALLY NARUTO'S MAIN MOTIVATION.

Narutards truly are fucking stupid

Because Kubo didn't put enough Rukia in his manga.

Attached: 1428447855254.jpg (890x1300, 348K)

>show me a single panel where this is stated
my bad,it was stated by lee in the chunin exams but it never was a theme with Naruto. The kid was talented and beat a chunin in the very first chapter. And to add to it,Lee never won a single fight in the series except for himself.

>IT'S LITERALLY NARUTO'S MAIN MOTIVATION.
Naruto's main motivation is finding respect and love he lacked throughout his childhood. And then getting back Sasuke and world peace. Not sticking it to talented individuals, you retard.

1. So why is Togashi going to finish it?

2. So when is Togashi going to get better art?

3. So when is Togashi going to stop writing HxH like a light novel?

>And to add to it,Lee never won a single fight in the series except for himself.
He defeats Naruto and Sasuke in his first appearance though.

AKA He wants to prove through his hard work he can earn the right to be Hokage,

Thanks for proving my point Narutard

>IT'S LITERALLY NARUTO'S MAIN MOTIVATION.
What do you mean?

I like Samarai 8, and so do a lot of other people.

>reasons for his downfall
Not pandering to fans enough?

but he also loses majority of his fights,after setting up the theme that Hard work could beat Natural talent.

No. Hard work is the mean, not the end. He doesn't need hard work in itself to be respected and have friends or to change the shinobi world. You probably won't manage without it, but going purely on deus ex machina wouldn't be a problem. Naruto never refuses to use Kyuubi who is enormous advantage in a fight based on some "hard work" principle. He uses whatever he has at his disposal.

Man, you Narutards just won't accept that Naruto himself is a hypocrite and Plague hit the nail on the head.

While I disagree with the 9 tails nitpick, everything else is 100% TRUE in his video

Cringe

youtube.com/watch?v=gH3Sh3hRV-c

have you seen this video?

>argument is presented
>no refutation is possible
>REEEEE my eceleb said it ain't so
So this is what they'd call a "concession" in DBS thread.

Naruto is a hypocrite that suffers for his hypocrisy until later on he corrects himself after realizing his hypocrisy.

Nope, that video is based on lies and hiding behind nostagia.

I'm talking about THIS VIDEO:

youtube.com/watch?v=v2tkz92eG_E

The one video that tells the truth about Narutard

Why do people keep posting or referencing that video to "refute" Naruto?

Because it's a good video that shits on that little hypocrite, that's why.

Also it makes Naruto fanboys SEETHE

I'm not watching your eceleb trash, if you have an argument, present it. If there's nothing there aside of that nonsense you've presented here, GTFO.

And yet you linked this Looks to me like Naruto fans and hypocrisy go hand and hand, huh?

> based on lies and hiding behind nostagia
he always reference the source material before making an argument unlike plague who always put "le edgy funny meme" before anything.

and nope he used to hate Naruto,even part 1 before rereading it in a 40 hour podcast session.
youtube.com/watch?v=JNN64o5Vy2E

>Why is Naruto's character bad?
>Because this guy on Youtube said Naruto is a hypocrite! Discussion over!

I thought Yea Forums was better than this?

Not me.

Attached: uybun.png (430x74, 4K)

>Why is Naruto's character not bad?
>Because this guy on Youtube said Naruto is a hypocrite but on purpose! Discussion over!

>Why is Naruto bad
>Because he preaches about how he will earn the right to be Hokage through hard work but has heritage and spirituality out the ass

Fixed for you!

>"bruh kubo's pacing sucks"
>"bruh why doesn't kubo do weekly manga anymore?"

A consistently written hypocrite who suffer for it and corrects himself.

>Yea Forums is literally one person
The other shill disgusts me as much as you do.

>Yea Forums is one person

Damn, that Bleachfag is getting exposed by Naruchads in this thread. Sorry you're series got axed sweetie.

Attached: 1567202135877.jpg (1100x1300, 174K)

He literally said he has trouble making weekly releases.

>Because he preaches about how he will earn the right to be Hokage through hard work
When? And he does work hard. Being gifted doesn't mean you do not have to put an effort in.
>but has heritage and spirituality out the ass
All of which he learns about years later even if we were to accept the rest of your bullshit.

Nice delusions, also
>source: my ass

>Axed
Nice meme, just like how your series TOTALLY got a sequel series because people wanted to see Boruto's Dad's son

Narutards continue to be delusional

>axed
How many times will retards spout this?

>was watching bleach when episodes were first releasing
>was okay for 60 episodes or so
>carried on with the series for another hundred episodes just because I was a teenager and wanted to fuck all the girl characters

was there anything of value in bleach besides fapbait?

>just like how your series TOTALLY got a sequel series because people wanted to see Boruto's Dad's son
Burrito's movie earned more than all the Bleach films put together.

>was there anything of value in bleach besides fapbait?
Soundtrack.

>Boruto's movie was shoved in everyone's face because it was cash cow

Fixed for you

1. Read the manga

2. Why are watching the Studio Perriot material?

Naruto has d4 and fornever. I think Bleach fans are pretty good by comparison.

What are you even trying to imply here? Yes, it is a cash cow. Because people want to see it. Contrary, to (just an example), Bleach.

cringe and bluepilled

>Being a cash cow is a good thing
>products should not have integrity like Bleach
>People should keep running their franchises into the ground like Naruto

This is you

Attached: e7a.jpg (1916x945, 238K)

Yea Forums is basically tsundere for bleach

Attached: htbefdr4ehrbg.png (415x441, 236K)

>products should not have integrity like Bleach
>People should keep running their franchises into the ground like Naruto
The Irony

How?

Naruto has become more and more hated by the fanbase because it won't stop shitting out products

Bleach has gotten more and more positivity because it ended it's franchise after 6 arcs

Seethe more Narutard

>the main reason to b positive towards Bleach is the fact it's over
Okay, user, I can agree on that point.

>the main reason to be positive towards Bleach is the fact that it didn't milk itself and become a cash cow shitting out products like Naruto did.

Fixed for you

>It's good that my favorite series gets no more content!
>I'm glad it's dead and forgotten!
>Fuck still being popular enough for more demand like that other series!

Imagine being a Bleachfag.

>It's good my favorite series is getting shat on by both the creator and the company who owns the product!
>I'm glad it's a walking corpse like the Simpsons!
>Fuck still being able to let things move on.
>Don't ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for next product!!!

Imagine being you Narutard

What's stopping bleach from coming back? I've seen a lot of bleachfags blame Boruto.

>Literally beg for more stuff from your series. A sequel even.
>Nothing happens. You can a few books that barely anyone reads.
>Pretty much everyone has moved on.
>Get bitter seeing this other series still going on and proclaim it's bad because of that.
>"Whatever! I'm glad my favorite series is dead!"

Fox and the grapes.

I think it's because Boruto has the same director as the Bleach anime, but I'm not sure if he's still on it.

>It's good that my favorite series gets no more content!
If the content is like boruto, then yes its good
>I'm glad it's dead and forgotten!
Its neither of those things, here on Yea Forums people talk about it all the time. It still gets new figures and the art book was a huge success
>Fuck still being popular enough for more demand like that other series!
See above

>I like my show becoming the Simpsons!
>A walking corpse with no hope of being put down to rest
>FUCK LETTING THINGS END NATURALLY
>GIVE ME MORE PRODUCTS! MUST CONSUME
>LOYALTY TO NARUTO! LOYALTY TO KISHIMOTO! LOYALTY TO THE BRAND! LOYALTY IS LIFE

Naruto fanboys seething because they are getting shit products and trying to backpedal.

What you said.

>bleachfags are one person
Retard

Get over the grapes, foxes, just because you can't reach 'em doesn't mean they're nasty.

The fuck are you on about? Are you brain damaged or something?

Cope

I love Rukia so much

Attached: __kuchiki_rukia_bleach_drawn_by_roh_yon_ji__7580c8e29f871fed386fe3af50a74576.jpg (650x967, 394K)

Fpbp

No he quit, but if Bleach were to get another anime Black Clover would need to end since Pierrot only has 55 employees currently

Did they always have that many employees or did the number downsize over the years?

>all the responses in this thread.

Attached: pathetic.jpg (246x205, 14K)

Seeth

Cope

Dilate

>Hunter""""chad"""" is actually Narutard
What a twist

Naruto is a gateway anime of the worst kind. It's a bad series, a clusterfuck of story and characterization that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive shipping faggotry and DARKNESS. The normal user can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.
However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for aspie, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The superpowered characters all trying their hardest to look cool, the jutsus, peculiar, colorful clothes, the whole ninja faggotry and everything about the Naruto world fuels their escapist fantasies, while the pity-party character backgrounds, emphasis on revenge, and overall preachiness of the series make it fit just right with the mary-sueish drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underageb& retards eat this shit right the fuck up.
Naruto is basically THE series to attract the most hated anime fanbase known to Yea Forums, which is why, regardless of individual opinions, it is the responsibility of every user to troll the fuck out of this show and everyone who likes it, and ensure that no Naruto threads ever encourage the newfriends to show their faces here.

Because he is not trying to? Seems like he wants to take it easy.

Attached: Ibuki_Mioda_Halfbody_Sprite_(17).png (481x560, 243K)

So do I user.

Attached: 1448474256658.jpg (450x600, 230K)

That's actually a good thing.

Bleach is shit. Naruto is not. Cope

Kubo got sick of drawing manga to the point it was ruining his health

Naruto is pretty shit
He literally said in an interview that he got sad and wanted to make manga again while in the hospital