Shingeki no Kyojin

6D chess, user.

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I will not tolerate any mean things said about Historia in this thread

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Calm down, Eren.

It's probably just a coincidence.

What is Hisu listening to /snk/?

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the last time they touched

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You will see, user.

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And lovers.

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How did we go from this to that?

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Actually, we still have yet to see most of Eren's too.
All we got was Grisha's and what Eren saw 4 years ago. But we still have jack shit about what he fucking wants or what he did during the last 12 months.

MIKASA CAN MOTIVATE EREN AS WELL IF NOT BETTER THAN ANYOPNE!

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Literal handpussy.

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It has Eren's eyebrows and Historia's eyes, come on it's so damn obvious...

I don't understand why there are still people insisted on denying the fact that the child is the consequence of Eren fucked Historia someday. Were they all blind?

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O NONONN ONNON ON ON ON NO

>The only one that didn't sold out
Lmao

I want to feel Ymiru's butt on my lab too

there's a reason we ask WHERE IS HISTORIA when we see new merch

make a serious take now

Isayama did this particular Eren's hand on purpose, right?

What's he trying to tell us, or are we just looking too much into it?

Sorry, Ymir
Zero Eclipse

>imagine the marketing guys losing such a gold mine because they can't live beyond 2013
lmao

Just imagine what Eren could see if he touched Historia's vagina with his penis...

Why are EHcels so riled up for just a hand? Do they not know what female hands look like?

So I read about EMfags rhetoric that Eren indirectly killed Historia family making their relationship unhealthy but the same can be said about Mikasa and all other deaths in SnK.
If Eren can influence past things to fit future he sees then he indirectly killed Mikasa family as well.

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*EHchads

Eren killed Historia's family by telling his father to do it.
He gave his father visions of the future urging him to kill the Reiss family, and then literally whispered in his ear to make him do it

oh come on

The scenery.

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>Isayama thinks we are the same with him who is a pathetic self inserter
Kek

>Eren killed Historia's family by telling his father to do it.
That's what I said? He didn't do it by his hands, he was indirectly responsible for it? You just repeated what I said.

Don't correct me, EHscum

They needed to die, Eren accepted that role just like Historia understood why they needed to die

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>right panel
>1 year ago
I'm very disappointed not even a single one of you noticed the parallel to Historia's hand until today

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Is this actually real? But doesn't this CONFIRM EH?

He didn't have any role in Mikasa's parents dying. Are you confused?

too late

>So I read about EMfags rhetoric that Eren indirectly killed Historia family making their relationship unhealthy
Why are EMfags so delusional? She literally killed her own father and has even said that Grisha did what had to be done. Historia may be the only one on Eren's side, at this point.

it's zeke, not eren

a-are we the Shingeki no Kyojin?

Allow me to fill you in, slowpoke-kun. Isayama revealed the final panel of the manga a while ago.
No one is sure who the man or child are.
is one theory

No, read second part of my post. If Eren can influence things in the past then he didn't do anything to save Mikasa parents, for reasons we can only speculate (to have Ackermann clan member protecting him or something like that).

>Zeke thought he was talking about the rumbling
>He was talking about the baby

Can't believe EM is the endgame

You're looking too much into Eren's hand it doesn't mean shit.
But the whole deal about Historia's hand being eerie as fuck is another thing.

These aren't new IPs

of course it is, don't you remember the very first chapter?

is this the series with the most pleb filter?

being a mankasakek is a filter now?

>He didn't have any role in Mikasa's parents dying
I think he's trying to say that Eren could've made Grisha save Mikasa's family, but didn't because if they never died Mikasa never would've became his dog.

Have sex EMwhale

There was a fucking pleb magnet in SNK. The entire first 50 chapters of the manga were full on 100% generic shonen battle manga to lure in as many normies as possible.

When you think about it, Eren indirectly killed his own mother as well by giving Grisha selective memories and urging him to go to the reiss chapel exactly before CT attack happened.
I think it doesn't matter. Eren and probably Historia too understand that they can't change what happened in the past.

EHfags are as mental as fujos now

I guess that user complaining about shipperfags and filtering won't appear now

B-but how come he never saw anything futuristic when he held lots of hands with her after Uprising, but suddenly got time travelled spoilers when he kissed her hand?

>what's he trying to tell us
I miss Hisu

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Fujos are more mentally stable than yurifags and Mikasafags

He just chocked Hange and his hand is still there from her breaking free, retard

HOW CAN THIS BE THE SHIPPEST MANGA EVER DONE AND THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE AT THE SAME TIME !?

This, REfujos and ZLfujos are fun and nice unlike the EMcucks and Ymircuck talking seriously about rape

it's Grisha with baby Eren

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You shipperfags are all mentally ill

Thanks for eating the obvious bait

If your point is that Eren is incapable of having any healthy relationships then...you're correct? I don't think even EMfags want or expect them to hook up as they are now. They'd want Eren to apologize and change his behavior.

Yeah yeah but you won't quote the EMfags to say that

Another user, here.
One one hand, his influence is passive, since the AT powers lets you look into the future and not contact someone in the past. So Grisha is the one peering into Eren's memories in the future.
But on the other hand (it seems like) it's up to Eren to show everything or not.
And according to Grisha, Eren hid the time of Carla's death to Grisha, probably because he wanted to make sure that Grisha doesn't give up on killing the Reiss but instead opts to get Carla & Co out of there.
So, if he had any early influence in Grisha before his meeting with Mikasa, it would be something very passive about just not telling/showing Grisha anything.

Probably plot convenience or wanted to show us it doesn't always get triggered

If she agreed to it it wasn't rape, even if she didn't like it

Historia got fucked in a barn by a random farmer
The great queen of the Eldian empire ahahahahaha

It doesn't mean anything, and that's coming from an EHfag.

I guarantee Eren’s is breaking ties between everyone he knows because he doesn’t want to drag everyone down with him. He knows what he’s doing is fucked up but necessary, doesn’t mean anyone else needs to stain their hands

Pic related probably went down like this
>Please don’t leave Eren
>I killed your family Historia, your sister....it’s wrong for us to be together
Probably more to it but that’s the cliffnotes version

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Don't worry, I have also quoted their "muh scarf" bullshit too in other threads. I'm not just calling you retarded for "muh hand"

The memories work both way, right? If Eren saw Grisha's memories then what about Historia? What did she see?

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Historia only recovers memories that Frieda locked away. Eren recovers memories from Grisha and Frieda.

We revisited the scarf scene and didn't visit the cave scene, pretty sure the writing is on the wall here

Explain how she saw Rod's memories, then.

>The memories work both way, right?
no

EVERYTHING

Blood ties.

Why would Grisha have memories of Eren and Historia in the cave?

EHcucks are really this retarded though

Why is Historia crying?

Is the fez kid a memory from the Tybur family?

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I think it's because one of the few actually well drawn hands Isayama's made. Beautifully drawn hands tend to stand out a lot, and the low-angle shot and generally ominous vibe that emanates from the panel helped a lot.

c
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Thanks for keep giving me more yous.

The fuck are you on about? We visited the cave scene. The only Grisha memories we didn't visit was everything from getting Eren to his death.

So this series is going to cause the next hall of anal devastation right?

Which Eren has the original vision of the terrible future? Our current Eren is almost dead. Does it mean he will survive to witness the bad future and show it to Grisha?

Maybe she liked it

By cave scene he means when Historia almost ate Eren.

there are two defining moments to Eren's character. The scene in the cave with Historia, and the scene with Mikasa and the kidnappers. We visited the Mikasa scene, it is pretty obvious EM is the endgame

Which isn't part of Grisha's memories? EMfats are retarded

>when Historia almost ate Eren.
she wouldn't have because mindless Historia titan would have activated the coordinate in Eren. Rod didn't know this.

Will Eren activate more memories when he makes contact with Ymir?

Exactly. It seems like Grisha can peer into parts of Eren's memories that the latter doesn't try to hide.
So it's guaranteed that Eren will get out of the paths unscathed and fuck over the world and show that shit to Grisha for whatever reason.

Eren would not have the strength or desire to issue commands at that point, so it's moot.

>We visited the Mikasa scene, it is pretty obvious EM is the endgame
Surely you have more to base this claim off than a memory begin revisited.

Still retarded. Those were Girsha's memories not Eren's

what the fuck is this shit writing?
how can a random extra win the MCbowl after a single scene
worst mangaka ever

But why would Grisha have memories of Historia and Eren inside the cave? Is that user drunk?

>how can a random extra
Who?

Thats the EMcuck, now she will pretend she was baiting

There is one more option. Eren isn't the last AT and his successor will witness the bad future.

But when will he show Grisha that future? I wonder if next chapter will be in the paths again

how about pic related?
This tells us that Mikasa and Eren make up by the end at the very minimum

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No? We are visiting moments that are important to Grisha, not Eren. These are Grisha's memories, not Eren's.
Grisha died long before that cave scene, so no reason to show it.

>Defining Eren's character
No, what defined Eren's charcater was meeting being a ragetard, meeting Armin, getting to know Historia and getting to know his own father and his past.
The scarf scene is only Mikasa's character. If anything the part defining Eren then was the murders not the scarf.

Looks like our current Eren isn't the first Eren from the future who visited Grisha.

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Eren will win and return from the Paths desert.
It's been spoiled already.

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Eren never actually hated Mikasa.
They're friends. Eren just wants to keep Armin and Mikasa out of all this for some reason.

EHbaby room as well

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Would it be romantic if Historia came back because she didn't want him to go down without her?

>Character*
>Meeting various people while being a ragetard*
My bad

At first I thought this ability to see future memories was an asspull. Now I realize that's just the full power of the Titan when in contact with royalty, like how the Beast Titan can turn Eldians into Titans. The name also fits.

進撃 (Shingeki) = Onwards/Advancing/Assault > seeing into the future
獣 (Kemono) = Beast > turns Eldians into Titans

So what are the other "royal abilities" of the other Titans if their names are a hint?
始祖 (Shiso) = Founder/Progenitor/Originator/Pioneer
超大型 (Chou-Oogata) = Super-Big-Type/Colossal-Type
鎧 (Yoroi) = Armor
女型 (Megata) = Female-Type
顎 (Ago) = Jaw/Chin
車力 (Shariki) = Vehicle-Power/Cartman
戦鎚 (Sentsui) = War-Hammer

Of these, only Chou-Oogata isn't followed by の (no), meaning it's a noun rather than a descriptor, hence why it's sometimes translated as "Colossus Titan" instead of "Colossal Titan". Colossus specifically refers to giant statues though and it feels too specifically historically Greek. But the -gata in its name is shared by the Megata/Female Titan, and is used more to describe the body type of those Titans.

Anyway, maybe the Armored Titan could further its abilities to become like the War-Hammer Titan where it can create weapons in addition to forming reinforced armor. Maybe the Female Titan could change an Eldian's physical biology. The Founding Titan can't be used without royal blood to begin with, but it's at least able to erase memories.

user at least post a quality screenshot

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Why do EMdumblrinas keep outting themselves as retards that don't seem to understand a single shit about the plot?

Are they doing reverse-falseflag?

>Super-Big-Type/Colossal-Type
become a super colossal like Rod

cope harder
If I tell you that Historia is a plot device. You won't believe me. It's jsut like waiting for Kiyomi Pov and intention. Everything important concerning Eren and shitshoria will come from Eren's pov and that's it

I bet the Female titan has a paths power

Create a nuclear explosion

Eren send memories to his father while in contact with the baby.
>Kino and canon

Shitshoria

Their PoV are deeply connected so that's okay

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Zeke can turn the Eldians into titans because he has royal blood, he can also control them

Living off parallel as usual. Nice!

>Are they doing reverse-falseflag?

No. They're legitimately retarded.

>鎧 (Yoroi) = Armor
use armor type 2

do you think maybe the attack titan was made as a sort of "enforcer" to make sure the other titans don't change the world more than they should?

I could see it. Eren believes he has to rumble but knows the guilt from it would destroy his friends, so he makes them his enemy with the intent to overcome them so they don't have to be responsible for the global massacre he's going to unleash. It lets him do what he must while not making anyone else guilty for it besides him.

>戦鎚 (Sentsui) = War-Hammer
Tybur probably used the full potential

The people of Paradis will love EH!

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Yes but it will end outside of it with the rumbling starting

This guy is right. Come on Isayama. Don't ruin the work of your life.

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They're an EMfag, they're too young to legally drink.

>Beast
No, I think the "turning Eldians into titans" is something Royals can do regardless of the titans they have. The FT can also do that too but on a much larger scale and without the spinal fluid limitation.
The "surpass time" bullshit is also universal to the paths, but it just so happen that the snk was by far the best at sucking future memories, because why the fuck not.

And no, that's not the Snk's power when touching a royal. Grisha was the one using the Snk's power to contact Eren/Zeke not the opposite.
What the Royals can do is amplify the ability to recover past memories which is common to all titans.

If Historia became a titan and ate Armin, literally all their problems would be solved. No need for any fighting at all, they would get everything they wanted without effort.

Yeah, so the question is what far-reaching powers do the other Titans possess?

We don't know if she was royal or not, but I feel like she probably wouldn't have been. Maybe the hint is in that it's the "war" hammer, so it relates to soldiers, like it can connect Eldians and control them as a unified weapon.

I mean, she kinda killed her dad too. Plus she was the one who had to reassure Eren that what Grisha did to her family was necessary to give Walldians a fighting chance, because the guy already felt guilty as though he did it himself. The future stuff might shock her at first but I think she'd be past the point of resenting him for something that already happened/will happen and would have spelled the end of Paradis if it hadn't happened/were not to happen.
But I can see Historia crying because of Eren trying to cut ties and disappear if their relationship grew any deeper after the Kiyomi meeting, since she only really cries because of people close to her moving her or hurting her in some way.

Yeah you know it's almost as if Historia getting pregnant doesn't protect her or Zeke at all.

I feel like all EHfags are just sexually obsessed morons
You know the funny thing about that scene isn't that Eren convinced Grisha but the way he did it. He focused more on the revenge part( do it for Dina, sister, Kruger, Eldia) instead of the greater good
I don't think even EMfags want or expect them to hook up as they are now. They'd want Eren to apologize and change his behavior.
And that's why I love EMchads. They are not so fixated on their ship that they will accept a scum for MIKASA partner. But EHfags are so obsessed at this point that they don't mind EREN raping Historia

But some people like Armin user

But that's not what Eren's vision showed, so they can't do that.

>>Their PoV are deeply connected so that's okay
You see what I'm talking about EHfags. I literally called Shitshoria a plot device but this fool said he doesn't mind since their POV are deeply interwoven. If I truly love Shitshoria I would want ISAYAMA to make her to feel like an actual character. These people don't care for Historia. They just want her to be Eren's sperm bank

youtu.be/Oj9Yuf4yalo
Can't fucking wait. The best arc anime is coming.

Since I switched to EM from EH and I have been comfortable and don't lose or get humiliated anymore

But imagine a 60 meter naked hot chick stomping through the town

Probably none since beast and attack are likely just speshul since the MC and his brother have them.

But if I were to give them any
>Colossal
Enhances the mass of existing titans by transferring its own to them and sculpts their bodies as the holder sees fit for whatever they need them for
>Armour
Causes growths and protrusions on normal Eldians, crystalizing them to preserve them for a later time.
>Cart
Subsumes the minds of Eldians into itself to become a hivemind, effectively carrying their will for them. Works on those transformed into mindless titans only.
>Female
Accelerates the growth cycle of Eldian infants to make them into adults ripe for titanization to make them weapons
>Jaw
Breaks the crystal created by the armour titan to wake the preserved Eldians back up.
>Founder
Views the past by connecting to previous holders, views the present by invading the minds of existing ones.
>Hammer
Massive range increase to act as the ultimate offense, can bombard the landscape around it.

HOLY FUCCCKKKKK

If anything Eren is the one following her plan, with that ominous imagery and all

The kidnapping flashback is a defining moment for Mikasa, though. Eren's character was already firmly established ever since Armin showed him the book and he awoke his freedomfaggotry.
The Reiss cave scene was all about Eren's character breaking down and Historia's rising to the light and dragging him out of his pit of despair. But who cares, it was never part of Grisha's memories anyway, so it's not like we could have seen it if we didn't even get to his very last moments.

What the fuck is this?
He has his human head.

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just isayama being lazy

What a dumb cope machine you are holy shit

Beast must be transformation into non-human things. The hint was that according to Xavers his beast titan was shit while Zeke's was top tier.
>Colossal
Being really big and hot. But in the hands of a royal, it must be really big and hot. See Rod's titan, for example
>Armored
Armor that comes from the body.
>WHT
Armor from the skin.
>Jaw
Advanced ultra dense armor from teeth and claws.
>Female
Female body and balance because Ymir was a chick, duh.
>Cart
Inexhaustible stamina.
>AT
High regen (powerful body management) and future sight (powerful memory management).
>Founder.
The power to make servants and become their king.

They don't necessarily all need some metaphysical bullshit ability.

I feel like all EHfags are just sexually obsessed morons
You know the funny thing about that scene isn't that Eren convinced Grisha but the way he did it. He focused more on the revenge part( do it for Dina, sister, Kruger, Eldia) instead of the greater good
>>I don't think even EMfags want or expect them to hook up as they are now. They'd want Eren to apologize and change his behavior.
And that's why I love EMchads. They are not so fixated on their ship that they will accept a scum for MIKASA partner. But EHfags are so obsessed at this point that they don't mind EREN raping Historia

He reformed without the armor plating. That's what he would look like without the armor, but without it being ripped off.

Cope is the easiest word to say nowadays. Why don't you use a good argument to shut him up if you feel you're right

Dumb YHtrash

FOUNDER YMIR

DON'T STOP THE BIRTH OF CHILDREN

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But all shifters have fucked up faces.

Pissu is a shit character and is better off being a glorified piece of furniture.

It was supposed to be Ultra Titan mode but the jobber didn't even get to use it.

not the founder and the female titan (if she had skin).

You didn't need to post that twice, you know.

I can't use any argument because he is straight out saying only delusions. Nothing points to Eren going for the 1/1 vision but retards are coping you can clearly tell from the garbage they write

Trash, cope, scum. Those words are easy for those who don't have a good point like you to use

>They are not so fixated on their ship
That's because they barely have any material but just look at how much they reacted with chapter 108 and the scarf moment. I can't imagine how bad they would be if Mikasa was pregnant.
If anything I like EMfags the less because of that, they are hypocrites and hide behind non shipperfags and insult others like Hangefags

How foolish can this (I just want to call YOU a bastard) but let me reserve it

>Nothing points to Eren going for the 1/1 vision

Hahaha are you serious? Read the damn chapter again. Everything he's doing is so he can reach "that scenery".

Rate the chapter. 9/10 for me

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bit disappointed this didn't end up being anything other than a visual. though i guess at this point more plot threads is the last thing the story needs

Did you forget about Annie? She looked almost exactly like her human form
Frieda also wasn't completely fucked up
What you look like as a Titan isn't necessarily decided by whether you're a shifter or not.
Remember Eren had that weird split jaw and elf ears even before eating grisha
Reiner just happens to turn into Reinest

I don't understand you are fucking retarded you autistic child? Just because you wrote garbage post after post don't pretend others need to take your delusions serious

6/10

I don't like how it completely removed Grisha's agency.

I feel like EHfags dodge argument they don't feel comfortable with or arguments that put them on edge.
EHfags loves cherry picking sentence from context and arguing against it like they are smart

EMfats would be a nightmare if the pregnancy plot was for Mikasa, don't pretend to be humble now after that celebration during first leaks of 108.

And to think the entire world could have been saved if they just fucked.

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What's the point of Female Titan being female if she can't give birth? They all have no gender. Maybe she could give birth but Ymir removed her reproductive system already?

cOpE

>>look at how much they reacted with chapter 108
Eren was his normal self then. Why won't they ship them together?
>>and the scarf moment
Eren showed a face he rarely does. This is not a shipping moment but it inspired hope in all EREN stans that there is still humanity left in him. It's a normal reaction every Eren stan will have after this chapter painted Eren in a kind of horrible way

Kruger's AT had a pretty normal face as well

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People don't remember but Mankasawhales were even worse, they just barely reveive anything so they just spam disturbing shit like rape and for some reason they think they are better than fujos when EM is just an autistic girl who can't even talk normal praying to be noticed by a guy who ignored her for years.

When will Eren activate Bites the Dust?

>dodge argument they don't feel comfortable with or arguments that put them on edge.
You first need one

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The writer cannot into female inclusiveness.

Titans are aspects of Ymir. The FT embodies her femininity. Besides, no shifter could maintain the form for a full 9 months. I'm not even sure the cart titan can last that long.

>EREN IS BEING MANIPULATED BY YMIR XD
>EREN IS JUST A SLAVE TO GRISHA'S AMBITIONS XD
>EREN IS BEING STRUNG ALONG BY ZEKE'S PLAN XD

>eren actually ends up being responsible for grusha continuing on to serve his ends, terrifies zeke and has outmanourvered him at every turn so far, and is about to seize ymir to make her do his bidding

DOUBTERS BTFO

>titans have no reproductive capabilities
>this is because "Eldians" were titans first and foremost, their human forms were just disguises
>Ymir removed the reproductive organs of Titans across time and space but left human Eldians alone
Guys I figured it out

>Why won't they ship them together?
So shipping is only good only if it's EM?

He's still a slave to fate.

Did Eren manipulate his own past self's memories too? Was the dream he had at the start of the manga a vision of his adult self?

>>EMfats would be a nightmare if the pregnancy plot was for Mikasa
Not with Eren's current mentality

Didn't the EM and Mikasawhales spam images with her when no one gives a fuck? I remember the ocean scene from anime where she is cute mostly didn't give a fuck about it and she was spamming it over and over

No, you're just a total EMwhale from the beginning, who tries to disguise as an EHchad to ruin their reputation....

Well guess there's already enough dumb EHfags around lately.

>Historia
>Mikasa & Armin
>Annie
>Levi & Hange
I really hope Isayama's still planning on developing them for a bit more before ending the manga.

Nah, they would absolutely be.

He made the female titan as a hint for the readers, to help them notice that Annie was one of the invaders.

This is what I am talking about.

Thst would explain the huge trees

Please put what I said in context before arguing. Stop removing words from context. You're trying to look smart but you're stupid

>Eren looks to the future and sees he will win but now how
>Goes out and wins by doing what he wants and believes in

>B-B-BUT HE'S A SLAVE TO FATE EVEN THOUGH IT WAS HIS OWN HE PICKED FOR HIMSELF AND ACHIEVED BY HIS OWN EFFORTS WITHOUT EVER TAKING ORDERS

C O P E

CHADREN FORGED HIS OWN PATH TO THE FUTURE HE DECIDED HE WANTED

We know that Isayama is a master of foreshadowing and he doesn't make things like that just for trivial reasons. Yes, it was a hint that the female titan could have been Annie even though she looks little like the female titan, but chances are he had much more planned out

Argue with your ancestors then. We have no way of knowing so let's leave it there

That was a good one user

No, you said others are fixated in their ship
>if one moment hapoened why won't EMfags ship them?
Maybe they look fixated because the pregnancy plot give them more material. Don't pretend you wouldn't be spamming, you would, you just don't have enough material

Tybur said that a lot of the nations would secretly help Eldia
Why haven't heard of any besides NotJapan yet

Based

>if one moment hapoened why won't EMfags ship them?
You're still removing my words from context. This is what I said
EREN WAS HIS NORMAL SELF THEN. Why won't they ship them together?

Like NotOttoman?

>Eren showed a face he rarely does.
He actually did with his parents and before the Reiss massacre

Except the visions tell him exactly what needs to happen and he's trying to follow them to the letter.

based but I don't know why you bother with a response, that user clearly is just moving from one "eren is a slave to ___" to another because he can't handle the thought that eren is, in fact, free

Gross said that a pure titan is their true form.

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You still don't get my point:
>One EM moment = why won't they ship them?
>Pregnancy with Historia and people liking Eren and Historia = bad and fixated
Hypocrite
>stans
Why did I waste my time

that makes no fucking sense though unless he was being metaphorical and just calling them monsters

Supporting a pregnancy I didn't know how it happened. On top of that, Eren character gets dark and dark as chapter goes by. Every panel of Historia gets more depressed as she is shown. Thank you but I will pass. Many true Historia fans don't even like what ISAYAMA is doing with her character. It's obvious you guys like her for your shipping. You just want Eren to win her as a price.

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But the visions/"fate" happened because of him in the first place since they fulfill his wish.

>>He actually did with his parents and before the Reiss massacre
Yeah, and that also gave people hopes. We need more of those faces to keep my hope in him. I don't care how the sad face comes about but let it be there to give me hopes that Eren has not fallen so low

So many side characters I don't remember. However if someone did say that then my theory is holding a fair bit of water. Zeke's command is successfully carried out but it's monkey paw'd in a sort of beneficial way (for Eren).

No thanks, those would be EMfags treating Eren like a prize for their selfinsert aka Mikasa aka a girl who didn't even know the real Eren.
I actually like Historia a lot and if EH happened it would be an equal relationship

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This, I really like Eren, Historia and Reiner.

Eren will touch Ymir and see her origin story in which he is the Devil who gave her the powers. Screencap this.

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Yeah, I'm thinking he's definitely not getting laid bros.

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A woman is not a worse person for being pregnant you know. Actually she seems to be like one character that knows a lot and is more mentally matured than the rest of the characters

> avenge the fallen, Grisha
Eren is unstoppable. I like shit like this so much.

M-maybe Ymir can recreate Frieda for him.

If Historia was this lively now, we wouldn't be having any argument.
And I wouldn't wish for any Eren for MIKASA. He has to show proof he can be there for her and apologize. Unlike EHfags who isn't bothered that Eren has ever shown a thought about Historia pregnancy for the past 5 months. All you guys want is for Eren to be the father

I hope so, I want to see the past

>bwaaaah mama b-but eren was being controlled

Eat shit, Eren and his ramble are coming!

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>Spic

See? You know Eren so little you still think Eren is not suffering. Don't worry, Eren won't end with your perfect Mikasa.
>Muh EHfags
Don't worry, Historia is not a weak victim or a doll nor a rape victim like YHcucks and EMcucks want

Compared to Hisu and Eren the rest of 104th are a bunch of virgns. Isayama didn't bother to develop them.

When was the last time Shitshoria took her bath?
She must have been smelling horribly that even a farmer has to remind her to take care of her body

He will apologize to your selfinsert don't worry, then you will ship EM again and will forget Eren killed children, because apparently offending your selfinsert aka Mankasa is worse than murder.

IS Shitshoria developed. They just flipped her personality. Is that development?? FOOLS everywhere
Nobody knows elements of drama anymore. Bunch of walking scum

>he can be there for her
Who is treating someone as a prize now?

Soon.

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Are you shipping the same man that killed children
Hypocrite

It's funny how I can pinpoint every post by seething EMwhale every thread, makes you wonder how obsessed she is.

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You know, I really can't tell anymore if master bait or genuinely disturbed shipper-on-losing-side.

You

It's the YHfat who is obsessed with MC prize ignore

Unlike you Eren's actions won't be better just because he apologizes. I know Eren is suffering and his actions will always be terrible unlike you and "as long as he apologizes to my wonderful and perfect Mankasa"

what?, what did i did wrong?

Some are baits some are really Mikasa selfinserts aka one of the most disturbing shipperfags. Fujos are pretty normal compared with girls with autism

EHfag (Erenfags) want Historia as their prize to make sure Eren won't die a virgin

>I was disgusted with my father
>Not because he killed the royal family
>But because I had to time travel to talk him into doing it

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>>Unlike you Eren's actions won't be better just because he apologizes
And when did I say that?. Example, What Grisha did to Zeke was irredemable but apologizing made him better. You lack reading comprehension, honestly

Why is Eren so afraid of Ymir sterilizing them? He can remove that later

>>I know Eren is suffering and his actions will always be terrible
His action will always be terrible doesn't mean he shouldn't apologize/show remorse. And doing horrible things doesn't mean he shouldn't move on with his life. You must be stupid

I don't carw that much about shipping but I could see why EH happened. I never bought Historia being good
Then again why do you even care, you should be glad EM won't happen

Don't worry, he will apologize to Mikasa. That's not incompatible with him and Historia being allies

Maybe if Ymir sterilize the whole race, maybe...just maybe can change the past.

>I rabu (you,) Jiiku!

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t. Jake Adlestein

Of course he is going to say sorry to his sister

Or maybe that kills Historia's baby? But following your theory how would that change the past? It seems like Zeke gave that order to force Eren to forget about his plan , Zeke is more like saving Eren from his obsession in his own twisted way

filename and grammar

but, she will forgive him?

Historia's baby is at risk of being killed if Ymir removed her womb.

t. Benjamín Jesús Cruz aka BenChandler aka Mrs Smith aka Urifag aka roastie aka Benhmed aka Mrs Braun aka YHfags aka not him

How does he know?????

This amount of seethe can be produced by only one retard in /snk/.

Based

>You couldn't protect this smile.

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EM and EH are both plausible.
I'd be happy with either.

Eren is so cute!

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Someone else sent back memories of his future to him. Someone with access to paths and the AT.

>this child isn't like you
>he's my son
;_;

dude if they had sex Eren wouldn't be alive anymore.
His head almost exploded just from kissing her hand.

Condoms, user.

this chapter summed up

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Every piece of literature or other media is ruined the second they introduce the ability to change past events.
Change my mind.

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T I T A N I C T I D D Y

Good think snk does none of that then.

Enter Cuteren.

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>"The rape Zeke by the farmer... It was Beautiful"

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But nothing allow eren to change the past events. The best thing of this twist is that eren and his predecessors can't change the past and either the future, because everything is already written in the paths.
You would be right if eren used this powers to change the past (like saving his mother,his father,marco,marlow,the 1st levi squad,erwin or even sasha), but he can't. The At must follow this fate and they can't oppose against it.

Which is it, is it a stable time loop or is it possible to create a time paradox? And if it's the latter then why wasn't a paradox created when Eren had Grisha kill the royals?

But in the memory they visited he just could've not talked to Grisha

It's probably changing world line bullshit. Or some shit like Endgame.

Attack on Titan Final Exhibition in OSAKA illustration

EM AA LH

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>Zeke was born thanks to Eren telling Kruger to make GD happening

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So, Eren made that face because he saw Grisha say "Stop Eren" right ?

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He could've but he would never choose not to.
It would go against his train of thoughts, and was always bound to happen.

nah, he exploited the Titan mechanics and saw his own future.

>EM

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He HAS to, otherwise current events and current events wouldn't exist.

So far EHfags are just shitposting to trigger whales knowing EH will never happen.

See, and that's the stupid argument that's always used to justify time travel to past events.
"They could, but they actually couldn't", same shit in Harry Potter.
Zeke just could've kicked him in the head or whatever.
I know that he planned that moment long before, but what I'm saying is that something out of his control could happen in that situation and create a different/parallel path for example.

>"They could, but they actually couldn't"
No, that means it was fated to happen.
Past and present affect eachother at the same time. People around here throw around the concept of a Closed Loop. The reason why Grisha killed the Reiss family is because Eren was there to motivate him when he faltered.

Idiot, there is no way your power could work against ymi-

>So far EHfags are just shitposting to trigger whales knowing EH will never happen.
Basically.

EH lost a battle

I'm not her

Why didn't Eren go back 2k years and told the bitch to not make Titans in the first place?
Problem solved.

Because Eren can't timetravel retard.

If "the scenery" Eren saw in his father's memories was so attractive to him, then why did he have this expression twisted with anguish? Shouldn't he be cumming at that point?

He can influence the decisions of all Attack Titans who have ever existed.

Eren is Zeke's parents

>He can influence the decisions of all Attack Titans who have ever existed.
Says who?
For all we know he could influence Grisha because Zeke brought him into those memories.

[Attack on the titans

The boy from back then will soon take up the sword]

[Who only laments his powerlessness won’t be able to change a thing
They boy from back then will soon take up the black sword Hate and rage are a double-edged blade
Soon and he will bare his fangs against fate]
lyricstranslate.com

Is funny how many words from the first opening (aka when people tought it was just a regular shonen in 2013) are actually a foreshadowing and fits way more to the current situation than the first season.

She's going to wake up soon, r-right?

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Because then he won't exist, there won't be him telling that bitch to not create titans in the first place. Even if he exists, there won't be any titan power for him to reach her in the past. Why is this fanbase so retarded?

user, the crystal is a plot device to take her out of the story, she is dead

They really need to play Zero Escape

Lowkey agree.

>“I’ve only ever been me, nobody has ever influenced me”
Since we know that past holders of the AT are influencing the currents ATs behaviors it heavily implies that Eren is actually the one to influence everyone else and not the other way around.
Good, if he wouldn't exist the problem is solved since he's the one who made the shit in the past happen anyway.

Eren gathering all of the titans was more interesting than paths

At least you exposed yourself as a retard who can't understand the basic premise of time.

You mean more Z league shonen tier. This kind of shit is something i exspect from naruto,bleach and Dbz.......not from SnK

No, he saw the future and made the voluntary but actually involuntary decision to make THAT future happen.
Everything he did from then on was to make that future happen because the future already happened.
This ability just opens up so many plot holes that I really dislike it in any sort of media.
What if he decided that he doesn't like that future?
He knew exactly which actions lead to that, it completely takes the ability to make any voluntary decisions away from the character.
This is Dragon Ball tier.

>Frieda = cuck Eren with a vagina
She was the perfect waifu for Zeke

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No man, once ymir fritz made her deal and created the paths, basically all were already written. The eldians are slaves of a fate determinate by the existence of the paths and they can't change anything. Eren is so important in this big scheme because he is the point of conclusion where the paths will be eradicated.

See and that's trash.
Not a single person made any voluntary decision, it was already written beforehand.
I don't like it when stories are written in a way that people don't have control over their own fate.

That’s definitely Zeke holding Historia’s daughter, whatever the significance of that is

>Zeke: I hate myself
>Frieda: Me too, we should disappear!
>Zeke: same SAME!
>Frieda: ...wanna have sex?
>Zeke: Okay but with protection
;_;

At least it is interesting unlike HxH

Jesus Christ you're retarded.
All the decisions made by everyone ARE their's.
It just so happens that the timeline is deterministic. Past and present affect eachother at the same time, this makes it a stable timeline with no deviation.
You are such a retard.

We don't need fucking multiverses here, and thank god Isayama is smarter than use this copout.

cringe

No, this decisions are volountaries, the people act as they would alwais act regulary based on their ideas,personality and ambitions.
Just the AT holders know the outcome and that the story have to be followed in precised point. The AT holders are basically martyrs of their own fate in order to free the eldians from the curse of the titans.

user for that to happen would mean that Eren wouldn't exist, the situation for current Eren wouldn't exist and then Eren wouldn't change everything.
Think about it: let's say Eren doesn't tell Grisha to man up and do his job:
>Current Eren won't exist
>So the chance of changing the situation won't exist because current Eren wouldn't exist
It is written

No that's like saying that you're not master of your own fate
>Oh well, I'm supposed to become a millionaire? Good shit, so no matter what I do everything is gonna lead to that goal. YOLO.
>All the decisions made by everyone ARE their's.
You literally said "basically all were already written. The eldians are slaves of a fate determinate by the existence of the paths and they can't change anything."

What if a dude inherited the female titan? Does he just grow into a female titan but is a dude still on the inside?

Cute and canon

>No, this decisions are volountaries
No they aren't since they can't craft their own fate. Everything they do is leading towards one goal that is already written beforehand.
If you knew that would exist in real life how would you feel about that?
Would you still think that you're master of your own decision or that the future is already written out no matter what you do?

>>Oh well, I'm supposed to become a millionaire? Good shit, so no matter what I do everything is gonna lead to that goal. YOLO.
That's not how it works

different user

>That's not how it works
Yes, imagine you saw the future. That's what happened to Eren.

I have to completely agree, except change “ruined” to “made 100 times better”

Unironically Steins;Gate did time travel and changing past events good. Not perfect, but in satisfactionary way.

Me too.

Exactly what i think

But too early to be sure

Because their fate his determinated by their own choices that already happened via paths. Is a mess to explain but basically their decision, even if already happened, are chosen by themselves. Eren didn't ordered grisha to kills the reiss, but he reminded to him krugers words and that i can't turn back at that point.

you're getting confused, it is not "it's written therefore everyone doesn't have free will".
It is "everyone's choices and free will gets us to this conclusion".
Only Eren saw a glimpse of this conclusion and he still had to move heaven and earth to reach it.

So when will Isayama let go of his Yegerwank and develop other characters who still need development?

Eren is literally the protagonist, what's wrong in focusing on him, if anything there has been very little focus on his plan and way of thinking.

Is called "deterministic future", a future determinate by our own choices who influence both pasta and present . badically all the choice we have made and will made determinate our own FATE. The FATE are basically our choices reflected in both past,present and future.

All I'm saying is that the future already being set means, that while everyone might think their decisions are voluntary, they actually aren't since they already happened - if your point of reference is the future.
This also means that Eren is the last AT, or else he'd be able to look even further in the future.

Zekecucks are really desperate to ship their pathetic cuck with someone

When editor is not afraid to let the author develop the characters how he wants

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Heres my replay, The fate are basically our choice which influnce both past,present and future.

Not that user but logically speaking, the past and the future (if you have foresight) are predetermined no matter how much you try to change it. Observe the SW, Anakin saw his wife dying in the future and did everything to avoid that future yet it happened, same as him been the one who restored the balance as he was foretold despite him supposedly moving away from that prophecy whereas in DB, branching timeline concept is used as a plot point. Though I do agree that time related shit is lame.

Context?

>Basically ZFfags

They would have swallowed the Abe pill the moment they met each other.

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Couldn't filter this pleb

>Protagonist arrives tor a village
>chapter were we meet Senku's father
>turns out that village was made by him and others, making those villagers Senku's relatives
>Suddenly the author repeats himself saying Senku was adopted despite the father having the same fucking face and hair
It was a change so people wont beve afrais of shipping Senku and Kohaku because of incest. You can tell the mangaka didn't like that

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Manga should have ended then

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Is Eren the Devil?

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I'm kinda confused
Is Eren the bad guy now?

Ymir: Shingeki of Kyojin the next Generations™ will fix that! Eren will be busy being a wagecuck to support his three children as Historia will be overthroned in that series

did he go that far back too?

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>now
If you didn't think he was the bad guy when he attacked Marley then why would you think he's the bad guy now?

Eren is still trying to save Paradis and Zeke is still trying to eradicate all Eldians. That hasn't changed.

This was "hey look at those COUSINS being lovely with each other, I live how COUSINS they are!"tier from Sailor Moon

Is Eren controlling Isayama or the other way around?

We're reaching Aizen levels here

There's no way anime can adapt the rest of manga. Even with 2 cours they have about 40 chapters to adapt. Season 1 adapted 30, so they are going to skip a lot of content

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Season 3 adapted 39 chapters. It's possible.

The manga is shit anyway.

>The last panel is the scenery Eren was talking about
If that was true then why would Grisha want Zeke to stop this from happening?

BA BA BA BA BA

WIT is so stuck in 2013 I welcome any studios to make s4

>dead series
>dead thread
based chadsayama

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I'm fairly convinced everyone is fooled by the translation.

>that scenery
This is probably just a bad translation for the memory Eren just saw. 4 years ago Eren saw Grisha's memory and knew he had to do this.

autistic shipperfag

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When you see their insane overreaction to shit like the 108 blush which was a group moment or the scarf panel from this chapter that is over a hundred chapters old, it's pretty damn easy to see how they'd react to a pregnancy plot for Mikasa that would involve Eren.

Learn how to read please.

cute

YH a cute

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Same here. Eren Zeke Historia and Reiner are my favorites.

Why does nip hate ass so much? I'm puking just by looking at Hitch's ass

Pretty much this

?

The Mikasa being pregnant and Mikasa beibg the damsel needed to be rescued by Eren was their fantasy for so long

But only because uprising arc was poorly made, as Isayama himself admitted, so they cut out half of it. S4 is different, it's not dragging out like uprising, the author has definitely improved himself, so there's not much to cut out. Also there aren't that many dynamic scenes that take a lot of pages but little screen time.

I'm so glad controlfags got BTFO to fucking oblivion this chapter.

Isayama draws dead characters too you retard.

Was this chapter really a cliffhanger, though?
A lot of people think so, but since we already know that Eren wins it really isn't.

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Assistants.

hey EHbros, if protecting his family is the reason Eren is doing all of this then why hasn't he dedicated a single though to Historia or his baby.

But if his memory was of him holding his baby, bad translation or not, then again, why does Grisha want to stop that from happening?

Does anyone else think that this development doesn't really fit Eren?
He used to be that turbo brainlet who just charges in like Luffy, and now he's some 4D chess mastermind who influenced people for 2000 years.

he still is a ragetard, now he just knows what is his purpose in life and knows what to do

The last panel is just Isayama teasing the ending. That being something Eren saw is a fan theory.

Luffy is a clueless virgin

Not him but I guess that involves rumbling? Like when Eren said behind a hell there could be hope too
If anything I found dumb how Eren is acting too scary making Zeke more sure to make his move

Keep seething. Eren is a slave to the future he saw.

You can rationalize it by saying somehow grisha would’ve done it anyways without eren or that erens talk to grisha was more symbolic of what was going through his head, but otherwise yeah pretty stupid

Didn't you see what he did against Reiner? He is still that. He just has some power that he can't be ragetard about now

I mean, at a 2 chapter/episode pacing like S3 part 2, and even assuming we hit 130 for 40 chapters, that'd still only be 20 episodes. Unless they want to keep it to 12, which I doubt, it's definitely doable.
That said, I could see them condensing early Marley arc, if they're gonna cut something, since I remember that wasn't that well-received either.

>Anakin saw his wife dying in the future
That was a bit different iirc.
Sidius fed him that fake "memory" and influenced him to make it come true. If wasn't predetermined.

As much as you force this meme, all he did was make sure that Grisha did all the things he did in the past.
And he already knew he had to do this because he had a vision from the future where he did it, it's not like he created this plan.

They should just ride it out. Do a full 24/25 episodes. People are so hyped right now to see how it ends that they should definitely stick with it even if marley “is slow” in the beginning

Eren is now the CHAD, Level: God

>FUCK Levi, FUCK Annie and FUCK Bert

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Don't expect them to reply to you because they have no idea.

We still haven't seen Eren and Historia full pov.

So was he actually being serious here?

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What does your heart tell you user?

Does this mean the baby could die? What does the original text say?

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>You are a worthless piece of shit now
Not that I disagree but, did he really say that in japanese?

the new chapter was bullshit

>no mikasa abs in a bikini
wasted potential

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>What does the original text say?
What you see translated.

I feel like timeskip Eren is being most honest when he's scowling like that.

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Why didn't Armin even give this a secon thought after Eren started to insult Mikasa?

Why it's so dificult to understand? As a "time travel" plot it was well executed, makes sense, and barely has any downside from implementing it other than personal opinion.

It's a little sad because I think all they want is for Eren to be sweet and attentive to Mikasa, but canon has rarely if ever been kind to them in that regard.

But that would be retarded.

Is Grisha the most tragic character in the Shingekiverse?

What thoughts did we see beyond the memory mosaic, again?

Defienietly.

Everyone is all kinds of miserable.

>like the 108 blush which was a group moment
Everyone else looked away already.

IKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Eren explaining his motivations to Zeke, and he was being very honest.

He's up there but I think Reiner is way more tragic than him.

Zeke interrupted what Eren saw.

You're the only one seething about all your unfunny edits being wrong, though. Do you still have the Kruger one? I really loved it.

It's funny because going to Paradis was their momentary paradise.

Nah

Dogren being pathetic AGAIN

The problem is that WIT cannot afford to produce AoT anymore as it takes too much effort for too little profit, so it would make sensie for them to butcher the final season and squeeze it into one cour

It's the adventure that matters, not the end.

Why is he so scared? He can change everything back with Historia

Kek, I didn't make those edits

I don't know if Eren is the father but after this chapter it's clear that Eren's personal freedom comes before anything else

What does this mean again?

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She will kill Eren

Well, it was meant to be that, a paradise for all eldians.

>Breaking free from the founder's chains using his pure will alone instead of spending gorillion years diddling a slave loli using a kekkai genkai

Why is everyone on dumblr/leddit so sure that Armin/Reiner/whoever will stop bad guy Eren? It was literally said that he wins in the future. I'm sure they'll try to stop him but they'll probably fail.

dropped plot

She's talking to his grave. Eren is dead as soon as he leaves the paths. After he 2smart4u's Zeke and triggers the rumbling he's dead then the epilogue. There's like 3 chapters left max.

user, this chapter set up a textbook plot-twist. Why do you think Isayama make it clear that Eren only saw a part of the future?

She's going to have some super secret titan power that's going to be revealed at the last second.

Bd sales aren't everything anymore. Why does this need to be explained every thread?

But it's confirmed that WIT is not doing snk anymore? They held a party, it seemed like a farewell party, but I don't know.

Anyone that thinks Eren is a bad guy is an invalid.

>Muh power of will overcomes Ymir's powers!
When did Isayama become such a bad writer?

>Bd sales aren't everything anymore.

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Eren is slave only to himself.

He can't, but he can't let things just happen, he has to make them happen.
Like how he went running to touch Sieg, he knew he would end touching him, but he had to run.

Because it's obvious to anyone that has read more than one manga.

> WIT cannot afford to produce AoT anymore
Based on what

Source?

Shit bait.

>But it's confirmed that WIT is not doing snk anymore?
They might be low on money.

>Eren is dead as soon as he leaves the paths
ehm no, Zeke got put back together too.

I'm sure Eren dies just after his vision realizes.

Your counter argument?

>Eren is a slave to fulfilling the future that he created himself
brainlet

can this really be from the future tho? At that point of the story he wasn't able to see his own future yet.

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Since the visions are in first person, Eren can't know if the future he saw was from his own eyes or from the next holder of the AT.

His future self.

But it's confirmed or not? What was the party about?

But the visions are of his wish being accomplished. Would be strange if we got a new AT holder just to do exactly what Eren wanted to do.

Based on what I've read on Yea Forums at the end of S3

Holy thank fucking god. I will never forgive their trash asses for butchering kruger

>he only did things because in the past he saw himself doing them.
Oh wow

>Shounen
It helps that he's the fucking founder too.

>結局クソの役にもたちゃいねえ
>kekkyoku kuso no yaku ni mo tachainee
>In the end you really are completely fucking useless
Yes. 役にも立たない (yaku ni mo tatanai) is a common expression to say "useless", and the literal translation of Eren's variant, which is also common, would be "not even worth a shit".
People talk about Mikasa but Eren was pretty savage with Armin too, that chapter.

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>implying Eren isn't doing exactly what the new holder wants to do

>That EEfujos who keeps drawing black-haired Kurūga

>butchering kruger
He wasn't butchered.
Uprising was butchered, Kruger was fine.

What do you even mean? It's not like Eren blushed because of Mikasa.

Yes because that's an older Mikasa there.

That would only work if Mikasa is the next AT

So why was he looking at her?

Eren can give the order to the wall titans and then die and pass the titan. The rest of the manga could be everyone trying to figure out a way to stop it and not being able to

What is he going to do then? And why? What's the scenery even? We didn't get inside his head once was my point.

>Eren's variant
You mean オレfags' variant?

Why do you act like he's seen the entire future day by day and is living by it? So far the only thing we know he's seen is him in the paths with Zeke and Grisha, so he knew to work with Zeke to get there.

Or Mikasa kills him making him start over again but without memories. Maybe that's why he attacked Mikasa once

>Eren was pretty savage with Armin
Better late than never.
Damn you Eren, took you long enough.

But that was from Eren's pov?

If Mikasa was the AT then the vision wouldn't show Mikasa

That was from Mikasa's pov and Eren was (and the rest) were blushing already

I just don't like it when information that comes out of nowhere influences future events.
It's a paradox.

But he knows that his actions are worthless because anything he does will not be able to change the future

Same difference really if you were dumb enough to buy into them or post them.

>Based on what I've read on Yea Forums
Wow, guess WIT is finished in the face of this stunning evidence

Not a paradox, a loop.

The AT can't see his own future, he can only see the future of other ATs.
Eren was only able to see his own future because he exploited the mechanics by touching Historia.

Spoonfeed me...
Grisha attacked the royal family because the wall was breached and Carla killed “please do something guys!”
But last chapter after he did it he was asking Eren if Carla was ok?

He still did it for completly retarded reasons.

Why do you always say the same? This wasn't Mikasa's pov, it was a omniscient third person view

Yes, but that loop is a paradox.
Eren only influenced Grisha because of what he saw in the future, and he only saw the future because he influenced Grisha.

>Grisha attacked the royal family because the wall was breached and Carla killed “please do something guys!”
Grisha killed the royals because Eren told him that killing them would restore Eldia, he didn't know Carla would die.
>But last chapter after he did it he was asking Eren if Carla was ok?
Because Eren withold that piece of info from him.

Kek, yu don't need to see a shitty edit to see that Eren was being hypocrytical.

Grisha found out that Carla was dead after he attacked

>avoiding the question

Then it doean't come out of nowhere, the information comes from the future, and the future comes from the past.
Time in snk universe is not linear, but, in a way, it has happened already.

what is EM?

>the information comes from the future
Yes, but that future only exists because of the information of the past.
Imagine your mate gives you a pen.
Ten years later you travel to the past and give your mate that pen who then gives it to you a year later.
This pen comes out of nowhere. No one ever bought it since your mate got it from you and you from him.

>hypocritical
>he thinks this is an argument
Woops, you fucked up
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

>In the end you really are completely fucking useless
So does this confirm that Eren regrets defending him during the serumbowl?

Because she was looking at him?

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we should rename this to "you cuck" fallacy since it sounds the same and fits too.

Not necessarily since Armin removed Eren's would-be-greatest-threat Erwin.

And you say I'm the one seething.

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kek, it should be holocaust footage though

She looked up and saw him looking at her.

>that scenery

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Just lower the opacity of Eren so that his black parts don't get in the way

Wouldn't surprise if he is talking about what we are hearing in the audio from the exhibition

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How long is everyone in charge of marketing going to keep pretending that team manlet is relevant? Might as well shove Udo and Zofia there

Second half of the story is not profitable or popular.

naaah, he dont see anithing from the future because he is the last AT

He got laid twice while 99% of the cast dies a virgin.

>People talk about Mikasa but Eren was pretty savage with Armin too, that chapter.
Because with Armin he blamed Bert for taking over his brain while with Mikasa he went on a long rant about how much he has always hated her.

No he blamed Mikasa's Ackerman genes?

The scenery involves both rumbling and the baby. Eren is fine with the rumbling because he thinks it's necessary to free his people but Grisha is not fine with that.

cart titan has been in cart form for literal months

>7 years 4 months and counting.
She is probably frozen longer in irl time, than in universe time.

the scenery is obviously the rumbling

E-E-E-EREN BROS!?

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They stil need to do something. And if the protagonist himself knows how it's going to end then what's the point?

>Imagine your mate gives you a pen.
>Ten years later you travel to the past and give your mate that pen who then gives it to you a year later.
We are not talking about physical anything here, but information -memories- that would be easier to loop and also have an inception, unlike the pen.

exchange that pen for information, and you have the same thing.
Scientist X tells you about some ground-breaking discovery of his.
20 years later you travel back in time and tell scientist X about said discovery.
scientist X tells you what you told him.
That information has no origin because you only know because he told you, and he only knows it because you told him.
Eren only influenced past Grisha because he knew that it would trigger a sequence of events that will cause him to touch Historias hand - which in return caused him to see the future.

Your hypothesis is flawed, all needs to have a start point.
Scientist X would never be able to tell you anything if you told him. As well as the pen would never be passed down to you.
You are the point of origin as you are the one passing down the information and you are the one who bought it and made it go back in time.
Scientist X and your pal would only be allowed to remember or talk to you/give you the pen once you came back to your time/made your discovery.

>Eren touches Ymir
>gets sent back to the beginning of chapter 1

The cycle repetes

>all needs to have a start point.
But this hasn't, it's a closed loop as you said yourself.
That's why it's a paradox - which I don't like.
>You are the point of origin
Well, I'm not since I didn't make the discovery, my friend did. He, however, could only make said discovery because future me told him after he told me, thus creating a closed loop.

What?,It was on google, and i think it was from here, ...but ok.

like the tom cruise movie?

>But this hasn't
Only it has, the starting point is actually Historia's kiss, where Eren became aware of both the future and the past.
>I didn't make the discovery, my friend did.
Your friend never did because you told him in the first place, that makes you the origin of the information.
What you say cannot be, your friend would never be able to tell you about it.

>Calls Armin useless
>Gets saved by him afterwards

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>Historia's kiss
which only happened because Eren influenced Grisha to kill the Reiss's and give him the AT power.
>that makes you the origin of the information.
No it doesn't because I only have said information because he told me.
It's really not that hard.

Where's the chapter?

>which only happened because
Doesn't make it less the point of origin.
>It's really not that hard.
It is if we are to follow the parameters of snk time.
Your pure hypothesis suggests multiple timelines at play, we don't have that in snk.

Lest's samefag.
>Doesn't make it less the point of origin.
Actually scracht that, snk universe doesn't need a point of origin, just an inflexion because present, future and past all exist at the same time.

here I made some shitty drawing
You're trying to find a starting point in this drawing which is not possible as the bottom one shows.

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Multiple timelines is the answer to your paradox.
Nothing to do with snk time universe.

>future and past all exist at the same time
that is not possible, that would be like saying that time doesn't exist at all which would mean that space doesn't exist either.
Unless you'd say that the past is inactive which it's obviously not since Eren was able to influence it.
>Nothing to do with snk time universe.
Yeah, that's why I'm saying it's a paradox.

>that is not possible
It is, time is a constant, not a flow.
There are actually theories about it.

not the other user, there had to be a first timeline without influence from the future. Then the influence started the loop that now persists. There could have been multiple pieces of information given, and perhaps Grisha or whoever received these, changed the future with these informations until the loop was finally created.

that would imply a multiverse which does not seem to exist in snk
that doesn't change the fact that it's a paradox.
Now it has a starting point but no end.

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why would it have no end? Eren only communicates with Grisha for a short while and then keeps acting in the present.

Is that really supposed to be the last panel?
What does it say?

because it would HAVE to repeat or current events couldn't happen

Who is he controlled by then? Grisha? Kruger? Ms Tybur? Those were popular ones, I remember.

Someone please have the decency to translate these fucking moon runes.

Eren has to tell Grisha how he wants the timeline changed again to sustain the new timeline even though everything already happened how he wanted it

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Here you go mangadex.org/chapter/702638/1