Both books cover the rest of the q'ten lo arc, Motoyasu's filorial street race, the Twin pheonix guardian beast fight and a few extras in between. Next post i'll list the major deviations from the WN introduced in these new volumes of this fantasy revenge isekai series.
Major deviations/Inclusions: Vol 14: >Shield strengthening methods revealed >Shildina is introduced(Sadina's sister) >Background about Sadina and raphtalia's parents >Raphtalia's cousin is introduced (Former Q'ten lo Heavenly Emperor) >Info about the "Pacifiers"
Vol 15: >Instead of itsuki being last, motoyasu is the last hero to be recruited >No lesbian rape >No Mad scientist arc >Pre-pheonix events go a bit differently
Easton Gutierrez
>No lesbian rape Aw man. That was the good stuff!
Michael Barnes
>lesbian rape Firo and the princess?
Thomas Gonzalez
Yeah, you'll recall that in the WN fitoria had been controlling firo, sending her into heat until naofumi got control over motoyasu. In the LN, since raph-chan is a thing, she keeps firo out of that state.
She got the sarashi from sadeena because she cool and strong.
David Ross
>dude what if isekai but the character WASN'T overpowered from the beginning sword art online came out in 2012, it's success made the videogame isekai genre popular and since then, 7 years later THIS is the best japan can come up with and people praise it as if it was revolutionary. I hope the next fire consumes half of japan
lucky or not for me my eyes are trained in interpreting mosaics
Dominic Martin
was hoping the anons from the dead thread would come here but alas.
Logan Mitchell
Maybe if this was the isekai thread of old, though I always kind of felt bad that your shield hero threads always turned into a general isekai LN/Manga thread even if I’ve always appreciated them
Nathaniel Collins
Not a lot of things updated.
Bentley Phillips
Slow day huh. And i hear that chapter 58 of shield hero is being delayed because the TLer finds the current arc boring
Anthony Roberts
hold on my dudes, what the fuck happened? Can someone fill me in? Considering picking up the LN but idk now
Christopher Reyes
After being sent into a coma by the faggot that stole his shield. Naofumi's consciousness is taken to the realm of the spirits of the weapons. There he sees the current state of affairs through the weapons which is worsening by the way. In there he meets both Ost and Atla, who there reside now. The former back when she left him the remaining spirit tortoise energy into his shield in vol 7, and the latter after he absorbed her into his shield in vol 15.
Justin Mitchell
fuck now I don't wanna read it. Is it good or some dumb asspull shit?
I'm on episode 14 currently. why is everyone in this show so stupid? why did they summon the shield hero in the first place if everyone hated him and thought he was shit? why didn't the shield hero left the kingdom after what happened in ep 1? literally every "bad thing" that happens to him, happens because he doesn't leave the kingdom. why doesn't he just grind to max level? why didn't he bought the level 75 werewolf slave? how can anyone possibly believe that incredibly retarded "the princes is mind controlled" bullshit? if he cares so much about money why doesn't he open a healing shop using his bullshit "I can heal any disease because muh perks", surely curing ANY disease would make him rich in no time.
>Leave the kingdom >Get summoned to the wave from across the border GENIUS!
Jaxon Ortiz
Sword art online is like 20 years old
John Rodriguez
so the waves ONLY happen in that kingdom? I thought it was a worldwide event... that's even more retarded then >hey let's summon 4 of the ONLY people that can destroy this curse that is ravaging our kingdom and ONLY our kingdom and THEN let's be a asshole to one of them for no reason
What does the mad scientist arc entail? I can't be assed to read the WN.
Brody Parker
Still nothing
Brayden Anderson
They happen worldwide but they're registered at Melromarc's hourglass at that moment.
Dominic Mitchell
naofumi thinks raphtalia died and was so crestfallen that he got a cursed series that made him into a mad genius. the bootleg rapthalias evolved so much that they ended up an actual species in the world.
Lucas Harris
Naofumi unlocks a new curse series shield after completing the list of doing all the new seven sins(genetic modification, social injustice, causing pollution, etc) which affects him mentally and makes him act more eccentric, unhinged and crazy though at his base he's the same naofumi. Naofumi in that state plans to give raphtalia half the world in exchange of her help in world domination and stuff. Naturally raphtalia says no and naofumi is very surprised that she'd go against him when she's been pretty supportive until now so he declares her a fake, takes half the slave village with him and flies away in his bioplant-made flying skull castle(the new seven sins shield has a ton of cool powers btw). where he first tries to find "his raphtalia", but only finds the "fake" so he believed that she had been supplanted with someone else and from then on began making experiments to re-create raphtalia, this is how the race of the raphs is born as a byproduct of those experiments, up to the 8th generation raph created that naofumi calls raph-chan. He also genetically modifies a few other people like firo, granting her flight, some of the monsters, giving them some raph-like features, and other stuff like making a bioplant golem mecha, healing the demi-human children that were used in experiments and stuff. At the end, raphtalia and co stop him and get him back to his senses, liberating him from the curse and restoring his mental state.
The author used parts of this arc in the LN, such as raph-chan, the crazy scientist naofumi parts were used for kyo and mamoru in their respective volumes and some of the stuff like kiel's crepe tree have small cameos and references to them in the story.
Matthew Turner
Ty for the tl, guess I'll wait for the 14th volume on nya before reading it
Dylan Diaz
If bookwalker were that easy to crack.
Kevin Johnson
God bookwalkers reader app is such cancer. I can't even use the book on my usual app. >No customization settings but a setting to let them snoop on me reading. >No sleep override >No changing backgrounds to night modes Just follow ReadEra's example APP makers.
>no reasons Shield hero have always been patron saints of the subhuman races, and they were literally created by one of the previous shield users. The kingdom has long had hate towards the subhuman kingdom because of all the wars plus king's sister being kidnapped and raped by them plus the king's son being turned into a monster after being given an uroboros potion during peace treaty(which by the way was done by the whore princess to continue the hate between the two nations)
Jackson Jones
it wasn't rape. Trash's sister was indeed kidnapped and became a trophy wife for a demi-human commander but they both fell in love and she gave birth to fohl and atla. That said, their father died in the war because one of his comrades threw him under the bus.
Ryder Martinez
I doubt Trash would know about that.
Bentley Rivera
He doesn't, for all he knows she died.
Leo Hernandez
To be fair SAO is a modern masterpiece and Reki is a god
>why did they summon the shield hero in the first place if everyone hated him and thought he was shit? to deny other countries his summoning. >why didn't the shield hero left the kingdom after what happened in ep 1? he won't go far without money, not to mention that he's being watched unbeknownst to him and he will be killed if he tries to go anywhere else. >why doesn't he just grind to max level? heroes don't have caps >why didn't he bought the level 75 werewolf slave? has enough with raphtalia and firo >how can anyone possibly believe that incredibly retarded "the princess is mind controlled" bullshit? religion that demonizes the shield hero and her being a royal and stuff. If you mean the heores, other than motoyasu, were willing to give naofumi the benefit of the doubt. >if he cares so much about money why doesn't he open a healing shop using his bullshit "I can heal any disease because muh perks", surely curing ANY disease would make him rich in no time. Not any disease, where did you even get that?
Jack Wright
>opens shop >gets taxed as shit by royal guards
Tyler Carter
He goes peddling instead.
Jace Perry
Has Naofumi fucked Raphtalia yet?
Gavin Williams
In the LN they are a couple and everyone wants them to fuck but they've done nothing yet.
She does actually, and by the looks of it she may end up with Raphtalia's shota cousin.
Jeremiah Ortiz
I've actually read all the official translations. I can't believe I made it that far, the author of this made the other heroes wayyyyy too fucking stupid.
Xavier Ward
Two questions: 1) What do you mean they're a couple? When it comes to anime and the like there's plenty of grey area in that. 2) Is the LN unlikely to go down the harem route like the WN did?
Nolan Murphy
That just makes spearchads reprisal all the better, the anti-thot wisdom, the raw strength that makes those time-lets bow down and the courage to shit all over the timelines. Glorious!
Jacob Gray
>you will never travel through various timelines and get to shit over trash and bitch again and again Why even live?
Michael Brooks
They start a relationship in volume 21 and in volume 22 they even talked about marriage. In the anime that could be around a season 5 or 6, i don't think the anime will adapt that much.
And a harem ending is less likely but still possible because the whale sisters are still there.
Christian Anderson
Author says, if both sisters came at naofumi, nobody would be able to stop them, not even the heroes.
Andrew Campbell
The heroes only get smarter once everyone starts shitting on them
Jose Flores
Why does she die again?
Julian Watson
WHAT!? FIRO GETS NTR'ed BY A SHOTA!?
Christian Reyes
He even becomes trash's protege at some point. That boy has a birght future ahead of him
Jack Thomas
The phoenix exploded with the force of several nukes and almost kills everyone but Atla redirects the force of the explosion to the sky with her CULTIVATION powers but she gets badly burned in the process, losing the lower half of her body and one arm. Naofumi can't heal her and she dies.
Jacob Miller
That's gay and I don't like it
Benjamin Cook
What's strange is that in the WN, atla and naofumi came up with the techniques on their own, but in the LN s'yne had those techniques instead. The hengen muso didn't have any defensive techniques, only attack and evasion ones.
Ayden Ramirez
Since it has been a long while since I read and finished the WN, does that Shota exist in the WN?
Matthew Lopez
They never go to Q'ten lo in the WN so that's up in the air. The country itself does exist exists because in one timeline, sadina calls favors from the water dragon for the dragon emperor's blessing.
Brandon Brown
Its gonna get two more seasons so I have no reason to read the LN. Unless you tell me MC fucks Melty or Raphtalia.
Ethan Garcia
>two more seasons I'd be careful about such statements. It most likely means 2 seasons that are one cour long, unlike the first season that was two cours long. So 2 seasons is really just a fancy way of saying "split cour". Of course 48 episodes, i.e. 2 times 2 cours would be quite interesting as well, however it's rather unlikely, and I don't really like the changes the anime made like making a retarded (but still bearable) moment in the source material sound even more retarded in the anime.
Is this even a good LN read? I heard it's shit and I think I was already spoiled by being told there is le time travel (alternative manga) and world transport spoilage.
Noah Peterson
To be fair, it sounds entirely like bullshit,Atla's behavior in what she thinks of as her consensual relationship with Naofumi places SEVERE doubts on if Atla's mom had any say in the matter, and she wasn't in a position to say no when rejecting the dude would lead to her immediate torture and/or rape by any of the other demihumans with a grudge against her brother..
Isaac Anderson
Wtf is this? Did someone make a doujin of Shield Hero in the style of 80s anime?
Mason Long
Clearly she didn't have any say on the matter, then again she lucked out by getting sent to one of the few decent demihumans in that country. The father of the siblings was charismatic, well respected and fair, not to mention the son of the high command of the demi-human side of the war. I shudder to imagine if she was sent to someone like, jaralis for example. She wouldn't last a day with that faggot.
Jonathan Smith
They aren't THAT stupid. They just don't have the obscene luck(protagonist) stat Naofumi has, the weapons taught them wrong (the games were supposed to be tutorials), they get sabotaged behind their back at every turn (Motoyasu tried to raise a filorial, but princess whatsherface killed it when he wasn't looking),no one believes them about the stuff they actually are right about(restart from save file), and any attempt by them to share information only benefits Naofumi while naofumi spreads false information or acts like too much of a dick for them to believe him. (eg exp charms). I think I also vaguely recall rape via coercion in Japan not being considered rape, so the author could have actually not considered it rape while it was actually rape via western standards? Eg comfort women. The whole thing is just sketchy which is why I normally just glaze over it.
Jonathan Martin
>restart from save file What
Landon Nguyen
Spear hero's entire manga/WN. During the Island resort arc one of them said that if they fuckup they can just restart and know what not to do during the second run, so they weren't taking things as seriously.
Isaac Hughes
For motoyasu it's similar yet different... He doesn't get the ability to return to previois timelines until the start of the second spear series.
Volume 14 read. What a nice way to put it, Naofumi now controls Q'ten Lo and Shieldvelt, hahaha
Brody Cruz
The rough idea was still correct enough to add hilarity to the premise of spear hero. I wanna say Itsuki was the one who said save file since he's the only console player and is the only one that didn't properly die.
The other heroes had a somewhat legitimate strategy that Naofumi fucked up due to a combination of him winning on the first playthrough thanks to sudden god cultivation and the irony of being as bad as they were about listening to others despite his biased POV presenting things as if it was exclusive to the other 3 heroes. Their dicking about basically revealed all of the hidden enemies that would usually try to be better hidden. Even half amnesiatic, brain addled, and categorically insane Motoyasu is pulling off extreme improvements to the original timeline.
tldr, I just enjoy the irony of the people everyone treats like idiots actually being right but not listened to.
Thomas Russell
I would hesitate to call it legitimate, but rather, something they can, and did use to their advantage but ultimately fucked them over for relying heavily on thinking their way was the true way to play rather than pool their knowledge together like naofumi did.
Cameron Peterson
None of those disadvantages matter if you make it to the second playthrough and the idea that they didn't try to pool information is clearly false since them attempting to pool information is exactly how Naofumi GOT information from them in the first place. There is a far better argument that Naofumi was the one refusing to share information given the massive amount of it he stumbled into, refused to mention, and used for scams/ disinformation even during the summit.
Gavin Watson
If we were to look at it from their point of view it might indeed look that way. Though we know naofumi was being truthful with his info and add the fact that he knows next to nothing. So he has nothing to gain from withholding information or giving misinfo.
Wyatt Hill
I didnt read the LN but from the anime Naofumi was literally the only one with a brain AND brawns. The other three had powers but not nearly as much as Naofumi did after a while. What confuses me is how the sword guy managed to kill a dragon but then proceeds to job to enemies that Naofumi could handle.
Kevin Cruz
If by brawns you mean Strength and not Attack then you would be correct. Ren had a sword that dealt more damage to dragons. As for the jobbing, they all are dealing with shit far more powerful than they can handle. Naofumi could barely manage thanks to piling up on the equip bonuses and his "cheat"-like shield of wrath, but that could only get him so far. After applying the other's strengthening methods he was more than ahead of the other heroes in terms of power, but not the attack kind of power. In later volumes the other heroes use the strenghtening methods too and catch up to naofumi VERY quickly. For example, motoyasu in vol 11 made short work of 2 otherworld invaders that were pretty much dabbing on naofumi and his team. That and he had a curse series weapon at the same level(a bit higher perhaps) as naofumi's shield of wrath.
Dominic Miller
That was kind of the point. They partially look as bad as they do since we're seeing it from a Naofumi centric POV. Their actions were still bad, but actually taking things seriously makes less sense than thinking you are having a dream while high as a fucking kite from all the morphine the hospital must be pouring through your veins after you were being stabbed to death. If they were doing something wrong it's not irrational to think they would have been told something like absolutely nobody bothered to do in the story. The fact that a previous set of heroes existed within Trash's lifetime means the fact that this batch was weak compared to others could be made by comparisons from living memories in addition to them already knowing heroes were supposed to be stronger from whatever contemporary source the inhabitants were using. They chose not to say anything instead.
You're underestimating how much secret info Naofumi knew too. He knew how to make filorial queens,had a Kung fu granny (she probably counts as multiple pieces of info given how many separate pieces of pertinent inf she amassed during her lifetime), could reflect magic (other weapon users could probably learn how to parry magic from him) which became useful in the final WN fight (and I say this in spite of how monumentally stupid I thought that was since it implies Naofumi learned a special skill no god she ever ran into knew while a barely lv 40 shitter), a dragon emperor shard buff, had his regular strengthening method, the bonus stats from permanently unlocking more shields in that skill tree, his giant continent spanning ninja network he could get information from, and Fitoria whom could probably drunkenly spill all sorts of info if you have her some high quality birdseed. The dude was loaded. That stuff about past heroes existing within the lifetimes of others in that world brings up another problem. Why didn't Trash teach his own weapon strengthening method to the 3 other heroes?
David Williams
I've continued reading the 15th volume on pastebin.
bro, is it possible no one has asked for a picture of Naofumi in a Raph suit? Like those in Calmira
Jaxon Diaz
I have a drawing of s'yne in a raph suit.
>morphine death trip Yeah fair enough. >filorial queens and fitoria He did share the info about it, and melty could confirm fitoria existing. and motoyasu even tried to raise one prior to the third wave but it died because malty. >king fu granny That's post-summit though. Naofumi was impressed with the granny but probably thought he wouldnt see her again after that. >reflect magic At that stage it was more like bouncing it back. When he gets the mirror now that becomes true reflection. >strengthening method If you mean unlocking many equip bonuses that's gonna fall on deaf ears because the other heroes had their own and better methods. And the shield's methods were not known until vol 14 or at all in the WN. >ninja network That's more peddling network and also post-summit. >trash not sharing his weapon method Well you got me there. Either the author didnt have that setting yet or didnt think about it. An in-universe explanation would be that trash didn't think they could be shared or thought they had it already. I'm inclining towards the former since he didn't had other methods in his weapon ever since the heroes were summoned. In one loop he did implement them when he recovered his weapon.
Hunter Hall
Didn't have*
Brody Stewart
Guess I'll ask for it in a draw thread
Joseph Rodriguez
Not anime or manga
Lincoln Barnes
But it has anime and manga
Jace Brooks
bro why do you do this to me?
Aiden Howard
Im sorry you had to find out this way, naofumi is now forever sullied.
William Mitchell
I had a long post, but then I realized there's no point when it was almost going to segue into a conversation i'd had with you before when Pic related explains it easily enough. He's just as dumb as they are, he's fortunate enough to not be surrounded by so many people actively hindering him like the others.
The other heroes naturally look worse as a result since we're mostly hearing Naofumi's side of the story here
Mirror didn't exist in WN as far as I remember (since it came from him taking a trip to Glass world?) and I did specify that I was talking about the WN final fight instead of the LN final fight which has yet to even happen.
I think you might be confusing me talking about the WN events with you talking about the LN events which is getting some things out of order? If not, then having a head ninja shadowing him and gathering information for him counts as access since he was able to have them spy on the other heroes, which is part of how he was able to corroborate the fact that the other methods worked.
He was disingenuous to an extreme, he just mostly isn't doing it on purpose as he has little self awareness. He simply acts like enough of a dick that noone can tell if he's scamming or not and not being bothered to show he's actually telling the truth. For all his bitching about being unjustly thought of as untrustworthy, he actually did pull off a bunch of dubious business practices.
>He did share the info about it, and melty could confirm fitoria existing. and motoyasu even tried to raise one prior to the third wave but it died because malty.
He shared false info (pre summitt) on it at first via the slave trader to trick people into thinking they could get a filorial queen from his eggs. The spoiler part ties into how the heroes CAN have competent ideas but are constantly being sabotaged by the people of that world and sorta enhances my earlier point.
I see your point. We're probably thinking about different things and versions.
The thing about the "magic reflect" looks to me more like a technique that he can do because he figured out he could bounce things like fireballs(calmira wn mini-fihht against bitch) and stuff with his shield. Unless you're talking about the qi techniques he made with atla then i guess he applied some of that to send back the bitch goddess's "lol you die" attack. The ninjas in WN i can give you, though they ultimately work for the queen so it's more like cooperation(a benefit that the other heroes don't have or take advantage of) than them working for him. Of course naofumi twisted truths, and spread lies here and there for his own profit and benefit, but going back to the summit, he was being truthful the whole time when sharing his information to the other heroes, though things like the shield of wrath he can't figure out(at that time) and reliably share info about, other than it's statistics and power. Like i said before, he stands a lot more to gain by having everyone in the same page than keep everything for himself. Though ultimately he was the major winner by using the knowledge that the others refused to consider in favor of their own they know it works.
Michael Lewis
C O O N U N N Y
Hudson Adams
*Read the tl* Ugh, fu Tact.
Alexander Wood
Yeah he's a fag
Jaxon Gonzalez
It's an artist that really likes to do 80s renditions bluethebone
Nolan Moore
Homosexual females can't rape because they don't have a human penis.
Tyler Howard
This whole series just derails into some dumbass harem between 3 females and did you know? One of the reasons why those females liked the main male is simply because he could outdrink her ass. What a shitty reason to like someone. Never heard of some woman making some dumbass premise like that, only males.
I forgot to post this from vol 14. The situation is as cute as she is. The tracking pin she put on him got loose and was lost at some point the times he went underwater. As soon as the hourglass in the old capital is active and raphtalia brings everyone over, S'yne rushes to naofumi's side and gives him a big hug. She was pretty worried something might've happened to him. Both Atla and Raphtalia were not amused by this. Atla was angry that another love rival appeared, but S'yne just tilts her head in confusion. In any case, from then on she sticks to naofumi like a leech and naofumi gets himself a Bodyguard.