Shingeki no Kyojin

Serums.

>Eren sees the rumble as he ejaculates inside Historia
Wew.

>Eren is wearing a hoodie
>Trying to stop loliYmir in the End of Time
>Will get the founders power

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Retards, the next twist will be that Eren saw the future and it was horrible, he didn't have a child in it either. He told Historia about it and they both realized the only way to change the flow of time was to conceive a child right there, only then can Eren truly be free and not a slave to destiny.

He is fighting his damn hardest not to realize a future he saw but one he didn't see.

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Can it be reversed? But yeah even if Zeke success they just have to use serums on Historia.

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>He told Historia about it and they both realized the only way to change the flow of time was to conceive a child right there, only then can Eren truly be free and not a slave to destiny.

What? How does that make any sense? What would lead them to such a realization?

Wait the farmer won?

No

Just the same retards with their obsession for farmer cock

>Farmer

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Don't mind them. They think this is a Disney show

EAcucks btfo

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>APOLOGIZE
For what? he was one of the best characters but after this chapter now he's " WAAAAAH Eren made me do it WAAAAAH " fuck him

Fuck off, AApedo

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It's true. If you thought SL were pathetic...

Based

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why is eren so damn hot?

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Eren and Armin are the same age but keep coping.

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>No LH until 2020
Not sure if want.

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Why, that means they survived another year

Do you think that Kruger’s words were not for Grisha, but actually for Eren?

Why is Eren trying to be Mikasa here?

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You moron, Kruger didn't even understand what he was saying. Eren sent the memories back to kruger do that he would speak them to Grisha

This is the face that gives all Eren stan hopes that there is still humanity left in him. Apart from this panel, Eren looks scary as fuck. I will still hold on to my lingering hopes

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This pic is hilarious.

Eren is a slave to his future/fate. He saw that he'll force Grisha to kill the Reiss family and possibly the future of how the things will play out and his death. During the three years after that he was looking for another way but eventually he resigned himself to his fate.

This is the face that gave us hopes last chapter

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If eren can see the future/past at will, why did he have to kiss historia in order to actually see anything?

Time to pull a muh parallels and give EHcucks a taste of their own medicine.

>Stan
>family.jpg
I knew it the antpics spambot was from dumblr/twitter.
Go back to whatever shithole you came from.

LMAO!!! FOOL fuck out

fixed

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>LMAO
>ESL
Go back.

>At will
Every shifter can see the memories of past shifters, but not at will.
Royals have the exclusive ability to boost that past memory recovery (see Historia/Rod/Eren cave scene). And what Eren saw while kissing Historia actually was a past event too, seen through Grisha's memory.
We have yet to see Eren see anything from his own future through his own memories. So far only Kruger/Grisha saw Eren's memories.

Way to make it stupidly weird and complicated

Have the EHfags gone back to dumblr?

I guess it’s indeed possible that the memories Eren showed Grisha after he murdered the Reiss may have convinced him to pass down the shifter powers.

Leddit or twitter?

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Trying to be Kruger, you mean?

Yep. Detective Hange confirmed.

Basierend und rotgepillt

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I just made it, based on posts I made in the previous thread

>Apart from this Panel.
And the panel where he looked at a younger Armin literally 3 pages earlier?

Kruger's advice was for anyone who could hear it but "save AM and everyone" definitely were memories either sent to him by Eren or simply caught by him. Most likely Grisha's as he said those exact words.

>" WAAAAAH Eren made me do it WAAAAAH " fuck him
Who's next on the "Eren made me do it" list?

The Witch.

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good post

I'm tired of this paths shit. Hope we return to the normal world next chapter.

Historia

so in the end will mikasa kill Eren since he cant control her with the asspull powers

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next chapter will give us a new path shit

i'll never forgive Isayama for humiliating Mikasa like that youtube.com/watch?v=EFEwECflTw0

Imagine if Karl fritz was actually cucked by Eren into creating the vow and all of this was just Eren setting up everything for the future he has seen.

Who’d want to go visit you?

Historia is Eren's mastermind.

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Okey EHdelusional

Only EMcucks were triggered though

Eren's hardening experiments are going well bros.

Kek Eren truly is a slave to the future.

Cope.

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He can't control the shifters either.

Kek Eren looks more sad for Yumiru. EY confirmed

didnt he do some wushu mushu shit when he touched Dina

doubt Historia likes the orphans and children Eren has fucked with

You understand that this interview is no longer an argument? Isayama literally lied and Eren himself stood behind all this shit.

Nice!!!

Historia when

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You mean like the sad face he made before Grisha killed the Reiss?

Zeke is the man of destiny destined to slay the Nephilim beast and end the evil they put upon humanity. He'll do it for his dad, Eldia, the billon who died under Eldian tyranny and all peoples in the world. Freedom"edgelords" are drunk on their own self righteousness

>2 months
>2 fucking months for some shit magic in the desert
>nothing about whats actually happening to the characters
>just some fucking boring ass magic shit

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Will the Warhammer titan ever be relevant or was it truly nothing more than an excuse to give Eren a powerup?

>Grisha was brainwashed by Eren
lmao

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But that's irrelevant? The Eren in Uprising still lived through those moments believing his and his father's sins were responsible for everything bad that happened. He always reached that bottom and that moment is crucial for his development and for the current Eren's state.

Sshhh

But Eren didn't know that at the time, what matters is he THOUGHT it was his father's decisions, at the time.

So basically Eren is the Attack Titan will which influences past and future users of it, so the time Eren talks in the mirror is him getting directions from his future self through paths magic, and after holding Historia hand he even more looked into the future which made him fo what he does now?
I truly wonder now what is this Eren true wish?
Reset the world?
Make everyone Eldians?
Make every Eldian human?
Maybe in future he saw Historia betraying him or die and he needed a loyal heir to get access to paths magic with so he decided to have a kid with her?
Problem with what Isayama showed us when future Eren forces past Grisha to kill Frieda and c.o. already happened in this story, meaning everything of what we see could be influenced somehow by Eren own mind as his perfect changed loop where every boxes goes in his desired spot for perfect future.

>t-that's doesn't matter anymore, right EMbros?

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>shipping Historia with the man who killed his sister
Mentally ill

Not only Historia understood it in the end and even she sided with Grisha but Frieda pretty much would let Paradis be gang raped as a punishment

I never would have though Mikasa's word will make sense now

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Ymir made thw world slaves to Fate just like herself

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It's literally impossible for anything else to be shown, time is pretty much frozen inside Paths limbo.
If we saw what's actually happening in the "normal" world we would need to skip all of Paths.
Cute Annie by the way

>If we saw what's actually happening in the "normal" world we would need to skip all of Paths.
would've been better than this shit

Historia's sister and Eren's brother are cucks who hate their race.

No, now this means that the stupidity of "he must surpass his father" does not matter. All he does is fight for muh freedom. Child has nothing to do with it. And most likely he told Historia to go fuck the farmer for the sake of the plan.

Speak for yourself. Marley vs Paradis is not interesting or relevant. Eren and Zeke's plan once they touched was the most important thing

I think you should need to add simpler examples for people to understand a stable loop better.
>Stable loop where the one having the future information rejects them.
>Peter saw himself getting shot to death by a Policeman in a future event.
>He never gets out of his house as a result.
>Runs out of food.
>He doesn't want to die from starvation.
>Tries to order a Pizza.
>Can't because he didn't pay his bills and his phone doesn't work as a result.
>Decides to get out.
>Forgot to put his pants on because he was too hungry.
>A policeman saw him and tried to arredt him.
>He acted violently because he was too hungry and too parano.
>Gets accidently shot by Policeman-kunand dies.
>None of this would have happened if he didn't have that vision and acted Parano.

>Stable loop where they accept their vision.
>John saw himself winning the lottery in the future (and even saw clear hints on how to win).
>He proceeds to gamble and eventually wins, as predicted.
>It wouldn't have happened if he didn't have that vision.

If you can do better, please do. I just threw this together quickly

Frieda would accept Paradis destruction. That doesn't mean Historia hated Frieda of course, but Historia's mentality is different.

>And most likely he told Historia to go fuck the farmer for the sake of the plan.
Yeah okay buddy, it was nice talking.

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I'm very sorry I ever thought Grisha manned up after losing Dina or Krugers. It turns out he was willing to force his first son to become a killer, but he was never capable of doing his own dirty work alone. Even at the risk of his second family.

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>Implying Eren told Hisu

>Child has nothing to do with it.
why are you so nervous?

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People say it went to shit a long time ago, I now also agree that things aren't looking to great anymore

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>Krugers
*Kruger's pep talk

He could have saved his new family, but Eren wouldn't let him. Not his fault.

So we’re finally gonna get Ymir Fritz’s proper backstory.
What do you suppose it will detail?
I think
>Ymir is a peasant girl from a realm in a losing war with a powerful neighbor, or maybe it’s already conquered.
>She’s a good girl that wants to help her struggling home town that has lost good men to the enemy
>She’s gathering clay/rocks/whatever up river when the ground shakes and the earth demon emerges from his subterranean slumber
>The monster is touched by the girl’s good nature and gives her his power
Basically Jean of Arc in an antiquated era if she got kick ass demon powers.
Speaking of Jean, hell maybe she didn’t die naturally as a result of her powers, but because she was murdered and devoured after 13 years since she got the Titan by the power players surrounding her and the curse is her revenge on the decedents of those that stole her power and bound her to eternity in paths.

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Gabi will tear trough dimensions and finish her job killing Eren.

Pretty much this, I don't understand why everyone's jumping to the conclusion that Historia would have never liked Eren if she knew he killed her "family".
The Reiss probably didn't even acknowledged her existence and if they did they probably hated her, and Freida was nothing but the first king's puppet at that point.

APPLES DROP BESIDES THE TREE OLD MAN PLEASE REMEMBER ME youtu.be/WA-ousOPfiU?t=38

Berthold had the best scene of RTS.

The ending will probably be Eren freeing himself from his own keikaku and stopping the rumbling

Requesting a "Be a slave to no one, not even yourself" edit

>Gabi sped up the process of letting the euthanasia and/or Rumbling happen because flying is faster than running
How do Gabipedos live with themselves?

Frieda was still the only one who ever loved her, at least until she met Ymir. If you think knowing that Eren caused her death wouldn't affect her I think you're blind.

So i heard Isayama liked to go undercover in snk discussions.

How the fuck where his cheekbones so sunken while having a dadbod? Is this the power of GigaChadgenetics?

Too bad he didn't have the balls to confess to Annie, or tell Reiner to fuck off when he was choking/psychologically torturing her in front of him for that matter.

Grisha is a nobody to her so she don't mind overlooking it. But Eren?? Eren??. After she have already gotten over what happened, imagine when the real truth comes out? A new fresh wound will be opened

Is there any character that can defeat Eren Yeager? And I'm not talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager. Hell, I'm not even talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager after ingesting the Yoroi no Kyojin serum and having practiced his hardening abilities with Hange and the Survey Corps. I couldn't be talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yaeger using Porco Galliard as a nutcracker to destroy the Sentsui no Kyojin crystal so he can consume Ms. Tybur and gain precise creation abilities. I'm NOT talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager commanding a group of loyal followers who have dedicated their lives to fulfilling Eren's dream of finally setting his people free and ensuring the safety of generations to come. Do you think I'm talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager after going fully nuclear and telling Mikasa he's hated her his entire life and beating the shit out of Armin because they're both just slaves who refuse to accept freedom and try to get in the way of his true, eternal freedom? You better be joking if you think I'm talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager after being ambushed by the surviving members of the Senshi-tai, effectively fighting off both Reiner and Porco at the same time and even taking on Reiner, solo, after eating two direct headshots from an anti-titan sniper rifle. I'm definitely not talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager surviving after being decapitated by top Senshi-tai candidate, Gabi Braun, and still moving forward to enact his master keikaku. You better ban me if you think I'm talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager walking Zeke through Grisha's PATHS memories so he can see the error of his ways and come around to the belief that life is worth living. I'm talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager becoming the Devil himself, willing to destroy the entire world, and manipulating the past, present, and future in order to protect his lover, Historia Reiss, so that his child can be born free into this world.

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Yes he's still a beta, but he had the best scene.

Godspeed Gabi

Freida getting chomped was still necessary, do you think Historia would prefer to let Paradis be destroyed because she wanted to keep her onee-san? She was no longer herself either.

Historia is a pretty logical person
>Eren?? Eren??
You forgot Ymir fucking around when everyone was getting eaten alive?

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Erwin had the best one and Kruger/Grisha had all the rest of the top 5

>different pic
Fake Madarafag

Basado y libertadpastillado

>Frieda would accept Paradis destruction
Truly based, the world should have its revenge already. Eldian demons can't be trusted to live under their own guidance. This time they'll kill 3 billion to get their way, pure scum

Cringe

You mean Frieda accepting Paradis punishment and Ymir helping the enemy?

>He could have saved his new family
How? He couldn't have beaten Annie or Reiner. If you're suggesting he could have taken Carla and the kids and left Shiganshinans to die, that still makes him a useless coward who couldn't live up to his aspirations.

Besides, my point is that he was willing to place Zeke in the Warrior program knowing Zeke might be forced to commit murder eventually. Yet he wasn't willing to dirty his own hands even when he knew his new family could die at any moment. He was unwilling to take responsibility. Eren withheld information, but Grisha was never forced to do anything except maybe when Eren bullied him in the cave. His shitty character is his own. You could argue his cowardice even forced Eren to manipulate him, because he would have been useless on his own.

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Keep ignoring the actual manga EMfags/YHfags but don't cry when it happens

>Jean of Arc
Jeanne heard revived guidance from God and His angels. She wouldn't fall for the tricks of Satan and his stolen fruit

Hisu agrees that her family needed to die.

The only intelligent post itt.

So if everything lines up, it means that Eren is responsible for his mother's death?

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>Implying he would be still there after he found out she was pregnant.

They should just join the winning side

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Was Eren really free when it was Eren himself who planned his own birth by sending a message to Kruger?

only if Kruger was carrying out Eren's will too.

Muh freedums is brainlet philosophy

Shipping characters is fucking cancer and if I ever had a wish I would wish for all retarded faggot shippers to die with the most cruciating pain possible.

Only way to beat time hax is with illusion hax bleach beat you to it

For me it's erehisu

>If you're suggesting he could have taken Carla and the kids and left Shiganshinans to die, that still makes him a useless coward who couldn't live up to his aspirations.

It makes him someone who values his family above all else. Which is what people here have been arguing for months is driving Eren. But that's wrong, apparently.

>Besides, my point is that he was willing to place Zeke in the Warrior program knowing Zeke might be forced to commit murder eventually.

Yes and that was wrong, which is why he learned from his mistakes and didn't treat and pressure Eren the same way. But in the end that didn't matter. It would be like if Zeke were ordering him to treat him the way he did, it robs him of his character flaws and makes him a pure victim.

>Yet he wasn't willing to dirty his own hands even when he knew his new family could die at any moment.

His family would have died no matter what he did. That's the point.

Basado

>kisses a girl's hand
>likes it so much he becomes literally insane
Is Eren an incel?

I think Gabi is greatest thing happened in the series. She pisses off both the characters and the readers by just being competent in what she does. Well written, smart and funny, Gabi.

Why is Eren so obsessed with Historia ?

Can I post this somewhere??

That's what I suspect as well. Unless he was just really, really embittered by the slow progress of their diplomatic/self-defence plans, I don't see anything that could account for his change in attitude. Besides, we know Eren was trying to figure out how the memories worked. Why wouldn't he try to recreate what happened at the ceremony by touching Historia again? And if he did, why wouldn't it work more than once?

See

because she's cute

Wrong.
There is more, it's what Grisha saw (or was told by Eren)
Eren was about about to explain himself when Zeke screamed

Hisu is cute, redpilled and the mastermind.

>Pretending like any of this matters anymore

He's not doing it for "muh wife and child". He's shown he'll sacrifice such things if it means getting closer to "muh freedom". Cope all you like.

STOP EXISTING EHFAG.
It was literally revealed in this fucking chapter that Eren hasn't even TOUCHED Shistoria in the last 5 years. She got FUCKING FARMED. Deal with it.

t. brainlets

>Gabi sped up the process of letting the euthanasia and/or Rumbling happen because flying is faster than running
How do Gabipedos live with themselves?

>lingering hopes
god this people are retarded
the panel it means eren is not a monster. period

He never changed you fucking speedreader.
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>"how can anyone know the future"

good question, eren

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she’s probably something like the Ymir of norse mythlogy

>STOP EXISTING EHFAG.

No.

>It was literally revealed in this fucking chapter that Eren hasn't even TOUCHED Shistoria in the last 5 years. She got FUCKING FARMED. Deal with it.

Not true.

>Eren does nothing with his time travel foresight and manipulation powers to prevent his mommy from dying

He's a shit son.

>fews moments later
>"oh shit"

When did I say he changed? Ultimately he's willing to sacrifice anyone and anything for his freedom. He struggled with sacrificing Historia but ultimately freedom is more important than family for him.

>Eren is not a real person
wow
He really was the shingeki no kyojin all along

HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

Isayama should have pulled a Kubo and call 121: THE HAND

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Eren is the devil. It's not going to be some random being, it's going to be Eren himself. That way we'll have a true paradox.

None of the other characters matter at this point. After whatever happens in paths we can skip to epilogue.

So?

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What did the kidnappers do to steal his freedom you fucking brainlet.

Hisu forgave Eren or hates him now ??

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Gabi fucked up. Should've blown his head to bits.

the falseflagging in the last few threads got to the point that i legit can't tell whether this is ironic or not. are you trying to convince that user or yourself? am i a brainlet for even trying to understand this shit?

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Frieda stopped from being herself as time went by according to Historia. It did affect her at some degree but after that she realized that Frieda was suffering thanks to the king's vow and it was one of the mains reasons as to why Historia rejected Rod's plan

I unironically think this will happen. It would be pretty kino

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>She got FUCKING FARMED
Based and kek'dpilled.

I think the one with the family filename is a real EMfag

They tried to kill him.

>Freedom"edgelords" are drunk on their own self righteousness

So is Zeke. He's so self-righteous that when his father begged him to stop Eren, he continued on with his genocidal plan rather than telling Ymir to do something to Eren specifically. Someone else might stop Eren, but Zeke will fail because he's an equally retarded zealot.

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>it's another tweest that makes you reread the manga
I'm getting tired of this shit.

>Eren about to touch Ymir
>next chapter will be him accessing all of her fucking memories
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING IN SHIGANSHINA

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good explanation

You can call him cold for not using his power to change the past to save her. But he was shaped by those events to being the person he is in the future, it's not something that can be changed without a time paradox. He didn't want it, but he's only looking to move forwards and protect those he cares about from the world that wants them dead

It's on pause, duh.

Great EH moment takes about 0,002% of the current story pages of the manga while EM or YH pages are more on percent values.
Romance of the century.

I don't disagree, but again, if you think Historia finding out that Eren is directly responsible for Frieda's death, that he's responsible for the deaths of children, wouldn't affect her, that she'd just shrug her shoulders in response to these revelations, I think that's delusional.

If Eren didn't interfere they wouldn't have tried to kill him idiot.

>historia saw erens dick after he kisses her hand

Was good until the end

If he changes the past, timepatrol ghost are going to kill him.

Historia would feel sorry for Eren more than anything, he didn't want to kill BR but he understood he had to, just like Eren remembered even the whos deaths during the cave.
Historia knows Eren better than even AM

So what? You think Eren's some selfless person who fights for everyone's freedom or something? What about the freedom of all the people he's killed? Of all the people who have died or will die because of him?

Power levels have jumped again. No one can impact the main outcome but Eren and Zeke now.

Basically this story is a big "drangon's dogma" grand scheme. The AT holders know the autcome and what they have to do and they cannot change it, and at the end they all became martyrs for this grand scheme which is "tha attack titan will" (even eren can't do nothing to avoid it).

I find the concept of EH being world ending masterminds to be extremely novel and interesting beyond the superficial shipping reasons. Any thoughts?

Who said that 3D manouver gear refers to x,y and z dimensions? Can't it include time and other non-spatial dimensions?
My point is, GODVI will storm right into paths world and kick the shit out of shitren like a dog he is.

>Not true.
Look how all EHfags can do is say "not true". Thats' not an argument. You cannot disprove the fact that Eren hasn't touched Historia after the genuflect scene.

Nothing

He pulled it out in front of everyone?

>Historia you have to fuck your childhood bully!
>Why?
>Trust me I know the future
>Okay

>EHfag
Scarf scene > Hand kiss scene

Why should he care about the freedom of his enemies who want him and his people dead?

That post was about Eren trying to protect Historia not about their moments you fucking idiot, if we are talking about their moments then you have the entire uprising arc they had more moments than YH and EM, and don't forget that Historia was the only girl Eren told he likes

You know what guys? Historia is really beautiful.

>Historia would feel sorry for Eren more than anything

Why would she pity him? Everything he's done has been his own choice. All the suffering he's had to endure has been of his own making. Sacrificing everything in the hope of reaching whatever vision he's seen of the future.

EMFAGS AND YHDYKES WILL COPE

No shit.

He doesn't care about the freedom of the people that try to steal his or his friends freedom.

It would be shitty reveal.
We saw Historia actually growing and caring for orphanage children and starting to enjoy her role of a Queen, then the whole breeding plan and pregnancy took her smile away.
I don't see her anymore as a person who would allow sacrifice of one innocent child even on enemy side anymore.
She's became good person.
Eren became a monster due to seeing the future and forced Historia to go with his plan..

That's not what it means at all. It means the monster is, and always has been, Eren.

Was Sasha his enemy? Was Carla? Are AM his enemies?

They are on the same side. Why would he do that?

How old are you? 10-12 years old?

lmao

t. Reiner the irrelevant cuck.

Not him but nice strawman. The user was contradiction the fact that you said he has always fought only for "his" freedom.

Did he kill Sasha? Carla? AM?
>hurr but he didn't change the past to save them!

He also clearly cares about Armin and Mikasa and pushed them away for a reason

Eren, please

Nice falseflag, EHfag. Considering how evil Eren is, he probably threatened to kill all the oprhans in her orphanage - even if she tried to call the cops, they would be long dead by the time they get there, so she accepted farmer's cock and became a brood mare wishing for nothing but death so that she can be hella lesbian with Ymir in hell.

*contradicting obviously

>>Historia was the only girl Eren told he likes
EHfags will never stop. They have changed liking a trait of a person to liking a person. Keep coping

Was Falco trying to steal his freedom? What about all the Eldians in Liberio? The children? Will he kill all the people on Paradis who oppose him too?

>You know what guys? Historia is really beautiful.
Ymir ghost, Frieda ghost, Reiner soldier delusion, Farmer wish, pls.

What does this have to prove?

>Eren
>Evil
Spot the libtard

The absolute state of EMFAGS/YHFAGS

What cops?

I wonder if Historia's body is still strong and muscular.

cope harder

I have a feeling she went to the farmer out of depression after she and Eren had their talk. I wonder what Eren said that made her cry

Both of them want genocide. I find it hilarious that people were cheering for Zeke despite what he did.

I-is Reiner still Eren's rival?

Ironically I could see Isayama going with this.
If he wants to show MC burn the world he can do it fully and then have a good reset ending.

He is as responsible for Sasha's death as he is Frieda and the Reiss's. And he doesn't even have the excuse of "not being able to change the past".

Eren's dick shape changed to fit Historia's pussy like a glove.
That answer good enough for you?

>Reiner wants to die more than anything
>Eren wants to live more than anything
I guess

she's the one talking

Reiner will kill Eren in the end.

The woman AND the children, father

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This is just getting sad. You should accept the possibility that Historia is Eren's accomplice

Well at least rational EHfags like you know that Eren is a cuck.

Isayama No. With how things are going, I don't know Eren anymore

>AT power is an asspull!

No it's not. What do we know about the paths? They're outside of time, which why 1 year spend in the paths changes nothing in the world. So when a path is created it can influence the entire timeline, for instance if Ymir has to build a colossal titan, it will take her probably years to finish, but the titan will still be available for the CT user when he needs it. So is that big of an asspull if the AT can see memories from the future? No, because the paths aren't linked to a specific point in the timeline, the paths are linked to the entire timeline, so also the timeline of the future AT, which makes it possible to see those memories.

Holy shit. This strong? Her leglock can break your bones.

I doubt it

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She’ll get back in shape after she gives birth

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>the possibility that Historia is Eren's accomplice
It's not even 0.0000000000001%. It's likelier than you lose your virginity, EHfag.

90% of why I love EH is that it pisses off mentally ill retards and tourists

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“I’m just fighting for my own sake… Destroying the enemy, in order to be free…”
What motivates Eren is the longing for freedom, and his anger towards those he can’t forgive.
Armin and co, everyone from the Survey Corps did sympathize with him and fight alongside him, but can we really call it something universal?
“I believe your freedom and that of everyone inside the walls are connected, Eren. Do you think otherwise?”
“…I wonder”
In that moment, Armin felt that Eren’s eyes, more distant the ocean itself, were gazing at the limits of the night sky.
When morning came, Armin was the first to head over to where Historia was. He felt some uneasiness.
“Historia. From now on, no matter what Eren does… As I thought, you’ll keep saying he is a hero that protects everyone…?”
“As long as he keeps fighting for us, I will keep saying that. Why?”
“…Nothing. You have your own viewpoint, I understand that”
For Armin, it didn’t seem like Eren’s future path would lead to heroic acts.
sapewloth.tumblr.com/post/177371413898/so-a-new-side-story-titled-tell-me-a-story

“Don’t tell me, you intend to tell the children in the orphanage the truth? That in order to change human society, we have no choice but to kill somebody as well?”
“I think that it would not do to forget. That the orphanage was possible, it was thanks to everyone who fought…… We, because from here on we fight with the people from outside the walls, I think that it’s alright to learn of that weight”
That because somebody fought, that the present self exists. That because there were mistakes in the past, that the present is being corrected. Even if it cannot be understood immediately that was fine, however, if they wanted to know she wants to put it in a way that can be understood, Historia said.
“That to 'fight’, is 'killing people’, it’s okay to say that”
“That is……up till now we without knowing it, were averting our eyes, to the 'actuality’. Or is that wrong”
“…… it’s not wrong”

>
And was she the only one that talked throughout the conversation. Don't be dumb please

Historia cares for THEIR children, not the others from other countries

When it comes to choosing between his freedom and the freedom of others he'll always ultimately be self centered. That's why he's okay with sacrificing others. He may not relish it, which is why he cried for Sasha, but he'll still do it.

Bu, but... what we've done to you user?

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Why couldn't you have done it yourself?

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>I wonder what Eren said that made her cry
Maybe he did the same what he did with Mikasa.
I never liked you, I hanged around you from guilt of killing your family, but it doesn't matter anymore cause you carry my child now, the future is saved, now I'm gonna fuck off to start the world war and kill people like my future self wants and you stay here as good little royal slave girl.
BTW I faked everything, including the sex, I prefer making Reiner sad than fucking you. Bye!.

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Eren can regenerate.

I unironically find it original

t. mentally ill retard tourist

He literally says i've always been me.

Why did Eren need Rod Reiss to keep living, anyway?
Historia was already 10 when her family died, so he definitely didn't keep him alive to make sure Historia was born.

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kek

Look at her face in this picture

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There's literally no proof of that.

>It makes him someone who values his family above all else. But that's wrong, apparently.
No, that's not wrong in the slightest. But running away with them would be yet another failure to live up to his ideals as an Eldian Restorationist, as well as a blow to his self-image as a saviour (pic related).

>His family would have died no matter what he did. That's the point.
That's not my point at all. WE know Carla was doomed from the start, but Grisha had no idea her death at that place and time was inevitable. He didn't have all of Eren's memories. As far as he knew, Carla was in danger (not Eren, since he knew Eren lived beyond that day) and there was a possibility she could be saved. That's why he initially begged Frieda to protect his family, as shown in .

The inevitability of Grisha's failure to save Carla (owing to timeloop shenanigans) does not excuse his weak character in failing to try. Nor does it shift all the blame to Eren.

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That is not canon at all since it wasn't written by Isayama just supervised like past smarthpone stories and dreams.

So how massive will the shitposting be when it's finally revealed?

No. For the Reiss family he pushed Grisha into doing it.

For Sasha it was out of his hands. He can't see his own future memories, it's why he had to look at Grisha's memoires to see his own endgame and was missing alot of important details.

But Historia agreed to it when she had another open talk with Eren after the SL rescued them. I don't think it would change too much, when she learned about it for first time, Historia was looking furiously at Eren like he were the one responsible for it (which turned out to be true) but that was after realizing it was necessary and the correct choice, otherwise everyone in paradis would've embraced extinction long time ago. Also besides Frieda, I don't think she'd give a fuck about her other relatives who she had never met. Just remember what she said about Armin

Isayama said it was canon.

And? What does this argument prove? Eren does this for muh freedom, not for muh wife and child.

He didn't want to kill Falco and he was trying to stop Zeke from screaming, the eldians in liberio and are just like the reiss family they had to die to protect his friends and family, he already did with Zackley

Because he had no idea what the future in which Rod Reiss died would look like.
It is safer to take the future he knows.

It's one of the parameter needed for the stable time loop
See

In same way HS AU is canon and how comedy school spin-off is canon for its story.

The Attack on titan was Eren's will all along, huh?

>protect his friends and family
MA and JSC?

i don't think it's coincidence that she resembles a 13 year old girl and the shifter curse is 13 years. it's also possible that this girl is not ymir

YET NOW HE SEES
THE TITAN'S DOGMA
UNBOUND BY TIME
ALL BINDING
GRAND DESIGN

LANDS AND SKIES
AND SEAS YEARN

FINISH THE CYCLE OF THE ETERNAL RETURN
FINISH THE CYCLE OF THE ETERNAL RETURN
(It's funny because i used to post this just as a meme 4 months ago......and now it is actually happening)

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He forced Sasha to go to Liberio, along with the rest of the 104th. She died because of his actions, as Jean and Connie said. And he had no rebuttal because he knows it's true. He knew any of them could die. He knew they all could die. But he went with it anyway because he's okay with that.

it was released with volume 29 and was supervised by Isayama why would Isayama agree to release something that's not canon?

I will bully all of the Mikasa self-inserters every day

>Eren is being controlled by Grisha!
>Eren is being controlled by Kruger!
>Eren is being controlled by the Attack Titan!
>it turns out Eren is the one controlling all three

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Eren knew that Zeke should survive because he saw it. That's why he made Hisu pregnant. To create the future he needs.

The same with lost girls, right?

Your being stupid user
Historia is the one with the plan
Eren is just a grunt

He didn't even try to change the past to save his mother and you know how much he was crying for her in chapter 1(or was it chapter 2 I'm not sure). Thinking that he cares about some child now is stupid.

>>Historia is the one with the plan
Ehh? What is this one saying?

Nothing about it contradict the canon like the AU and the spin off.
Historia is not the good girl all of you want her to be.

He tried to kill Falco in Liberio.

>they had to die to protect his friends and family

He doesn't care about protecting them. He might not want them to die but they're ultimately expendable.

I don't get why the rumbling triggers Grisha

He and the rebels were aiming the very same thing

I MISS YOU YOU DEPRESSED FUCKER

He can't freely shape the past, he can only slight influence the action of past AT holders. Tell me how he can prevent BR's attack just by showing some memories to Grisha or Kruger. it can't be done

i didn't mention any wife and child you fucking retard, read the posts before replying.

ZEKEBROS THIS WASNT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN! EREN HAD TO SEE OUR VISION AND AGREE.

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Except that all the time loops are identical, there are not "small deviations"

The meme of an accidental pregnancy has died. But now it seems to me that there is something else, something more grandiose than the fagots want Eren to tell Historia to go fuck Farmer. This is apparently related to the original Ymir or the future.

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Grisha was never planning on killing all of humanity. The rumbling will even kill the Eldians outside of Paradis.

Which theme do you want for the rumbling lads?

youtube.com/watch?v=ipI1qRFo1Us

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They're soldiers and went willingly. Eren was going to fight for FREEDOM with or without them. As he told Hanji, they had no better plan. They were just going to wait and die to a global coalition. Blaming Eren for her death on the battlefield is dumb

HAHA

It's funny how desperately EHfags cling to Historia's hand, even though it was the hand kiss that officially delivered the final killing blow to Ehfag delusions. Kino pottery.

Marley dogs deserve it

Because he can't change the past. He can only influence events in ways where he is not already aware of how they ocurred.

AU Hisu "jokingly" sees the world outside Eren (and a few others like her parents and stuff, who represent Paradis) like ants to be crushed.

Isayama is telling everything already but you don't want to see it.

They 2 are the villains.

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Then what is the essence of the arguments of this user?

see

This is epic enough especially from 0:40

Link?

No.

>after
I mean before, fuck

>Freedom, Freedom, forgive me!

It's perfect

Nope.

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If Historia really became a villain for no other reason than to side with Eren, she deserves nothing else than miscarriage and cruel death of bleeding out for being an evil person.

Don't mind them. At this point they just want Eren to be the father. It doesn't even matter if he raped her. Pathetic set of people

I do not understand. Want to say that his family is Historia? Do not make me laugh

>People acting like this isn't obvious bait

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For me it's EreHisu.

He knew that Reiner was gonna protect him and he was sad when talking about Falco drinking the wine, he was literally crying when Sasha died.

>Just remember what she said about Armin
No one cares about Armin aside of Eren and Mikasa.

>miscarriage
The baby is literally guaranteed to survive though

>even if she tried to call the cops

10/10, did laugh

>running away with them would be yet another failure to live up to his ideals as an Eldian Restorationist, as well as a blow to his self-image as a saviour

Prioritizing Eldian restoration was what destroyed his first family.

>WE know Carla was doomed from the start, but Grisha had no idea her death at that place and time was inevitable.

Only because Eren didn't tell him that. She could have been saved if he had more information but Eren wouldn't give that to him.

Eren could give specific instructions like "Kill all the Reiss except for Rod", he chose not be specific about Carla because he knew if he did that Grisha would save her.

Their so-called allies wanted to use her as a breeding tool and nuclear deterrent as soon as their first meeting.

Why the fuck should anyone in paradis care about them, "good" or evil?

Why it's always the retarded dykes that are talking about rape or cuck things ?

Sex with Hans

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Reiner is forced to live to only be tortured by Eren

>bad guys win
the end GoT was too pussy to deliver

the first post i replied to was this one >most likely he told Historia to go fuck the farmer for the sake of the plan, so i proved him wrong that Eren wouldn't sacrifice Historia with this one he tried to claim that this doesn't matter anymore and that Eren changed and again i proved him wrong with this one

Man this chapter brought out the low iq retards in spades. So many peolle think Eren can send information to/change the past. So many retards think eren told Grisha to not kill Rod. So many people are brain dead retarded.

The side story confirmed Eren was living at the orphanage.

she's reserved for moblito in the afterlife

>he was sad when talking about Falco drinking the wine, he was literally crying when Sasha died.

So like is said: He might not want them to die but they're ultimately expendable.

its all ehbaby and also her plan

why would she care about the people that wanted to turn her into a breeding machine?

t. manletto

I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE EREHISU FLASHBACK.

THIS
if anything, Hizuru delivered the final nail to the world

Because Historia was crying and sad in case you havent seen. So if Eren was the father, it would be rape.

>So many retards think eren told Grisha to not kill Rod.

Because that's literally what happened.

You guys do remember Historia killed her own father right
You do remember she freed Eren even tho she knew his father massacred her relatives
You do remember she was justifying Grisha's actions when Eren was ready to be eaten

What the fuck are even talking about, Eren is literally like this because of Historia, when he found out about Grisha, he was ready to give it up, he was ready to die.

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Eren is the knight and hisu the queen.

Except he couldn't let his mother live because they never hit that memory. This is all possible only because the ATs converged when Eren and Zeke touched. Otherwise Eren wouldn't be able to do shit.

They still ignore Historia saw Eren offering his own life and hating what he has to do and even hid the secret till Zeke became an option.

>It's another chaper of Eren being a ragetard
*yawn* can we go back to Shiganshina now?

He could have told Grisha to tell Carla to not be inside the house when the titan would have attacked.

Remember that one user who didn't know Yelena was present during Kiyomi's meetings? Mostly Mikasafags and Ymirfags skipped Uprising and that chapter so they need to cope with rape and weird shit.

You think Eren saying "I've always been me" means he's never changed? That's retarded. Look at how he was with his friends at the railroad and compare that to how he is now. What he said in this chapter just meant he's always sought freedom even as a child and that Grisha wasn't the cause of that.

Thats literally not what happened. Thats you misinterpeting what grisha is saying big time.

Learn reading comprehension spic.

>People thought Eren's sense of freedom came from the attack titan
>Turns out the attack titan's sense of freedom came from Eren

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>When it comes to choosing between his freedom and the freedom of others he'll always ultimately be self centered
Wrong mangabeast.com/manga/Shingeki-No-Kyojin/0090-025.png

nothing and nobody else in Shiganshina matters tho

>ruinous ideas about peace
Truly the manga for our times. There has never been a more redpilled manga, or perhaps even piece of art, than attack on titan.

I don't even think it's all the shipper people. I can't stand that stuff, if it was only for that i wouldn't even write anything.

I feel like people legit misunderstand Historia's character.

Yes please, that shingeki summer was disappoiting compared to the last one

Man I can see why mikasa selfinserters are so jealous

If your friends insulted you and kept on not listening to you you wouldn't get mad at them?

So what happened? You think he only told him to kill the Reiss and Rod surviving was a fuckup? Rod surviving was necessary for things to play out the way they did, just like Carla dying. That means Eren has to make sure it happens. There's no way he'd risk Grisha actually killing Rod and breaking the timeline.

He didnt specifically order anything. He reminded Grisha about his duty to advance. Thats all

Yeah I don't understand why they think Historia is a moralfag or as simple as them, the moralfags would serve her body and her children's virginity for political reasons (possessed Frieda, Rod, Kiyomi...)
Just because she has an orphanage doesn't mean she believes in everyone is good or that sacrifices are unavoidable

But that isn't what happened. Eren never told them they were wrong, he kept those thoughts to himself until he abandoned them out of the blue.

Hate Eren all you want, but what he's doing is fair. People want to end him and his entire race. What man would take that sitting down?

Rod was the first one out user. He was far as fuck before Grisha even transformed. Eren didn't tell him to spare him, he just didn't tell him Rod would get away brainlet

>Prioritizing Eldian restoration was what destroyed his first family.
No doubt. It was also due being stupid enough to pin his hopes on the success of his progeny. Which he sort of did again at the end of the massacre, just to a different son under different circumstances.

>Only because Eren didn't tell him that. She could have been saved if he had more information but Eren wouldn't give that to him.
This is conjecture on Grisha and Zeke's parts. We don't know how much control Eren has over the memories he shares. Even if he does have full control, telling Grisha that information then might have broken the timeloop. That is likely impossible for Eren to do owning to the reasons described (really good post, by the way).
Regardless, Grisha acted according to his character from start to finish. Eren didn't change his fundamental personality by withholding details. He was a squeamish man who prioritized keeping his own hands clean over a chance to save his family. Until Eren guilted him into action.

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Fun fact just check girls faces when moralfags men are talking. Literally they look disgusted because those won't protect them.

No, he told Grisha to go the the chapel on a particular day at a particular time. He definitely gave him specific commands. Grisha went there knowing he was supposed to kill them all. He said as much.

>Get in the fucking titan, Grisha

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That's all he told him in the conversation. Why do you think Grisha went there in the first place? He was acting on Eren's orders previous given to him.

What matters then?

>Abstaining from catastrophically altering the future
>Means Eren doesn’t give a shit about anybody
Yeah, cause pic related is the face of a man who doesn’t care, fucking speed reader.

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Farmer''CHAD'' is unironically the biggest cuck in this manga, even more than Keith or Mikasa ever could be. Think about it, he felt guilty about being a prick as a kid and started doing labour in the orphanage as atonement for the bullying. She notices him and then one day asks him to pretend to be her husband since she knows he feels guilty and is an inconspicuous pick for the job, all the while a hooded guy makes a scary rageful face in the background. Dude gets embarassed, ''Joō-sama noticed me kyaaa'', agrees and now she's visibly pregnant, fucking had a bun in the oven all along, the MP's are asking him questions and rumours abound, and the guy has to care for her while she gets larger with another man's seed and still looks at him like he's walking garbage whenever he tries talking casually.

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EMwhales are so cringe. They self insert as Mikasa so hard, that the idea of Eren ending up with the 10/10 blue eyed blonde queen instead of their personal autism avatar is a personal insult to their own selfworth. Hence all the 'Eren raped/pimped her to the Farmer' posts. Its truly fascinating to watch as we near the climax of this series and the hidden povs of Eren/Historia

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Nope. Rod was still in the cave in the double spread this chapter, after Grisha killed everyone. He could have easily chased him down but didn't because he knew Rod had to survive.

What side story?

>he told grisha to go to the chapel at a specific day at a specific time
Headcannon. Post a sourcce fit this bullshit.
Grisha went there in the first place to eat the founder like kruger told him to brainlet? Last chapter it was revealed Grisha was getting intel on the location. Why would he do that if Eren told him the exact location and time brainlet? Stop reading into things dumbass.

He was trying to but they kept interrupting him then he got mad, and to add to that i think he believes that they will never agree to the full rumbling and would choose to sacrifice Historia instead, so he had to keep them away so they will not oppose him.

You can tell everytime Eren is going to do something terrible he looks bad. Even when be said he had to kill BR, he looked bad, Eren even spelled every fucking person who died and wanted to die.
Ship them or not it doesn't matter people here don't understand Eren and Historia's characters

Did he mean Eren or Eren Kruger? How could he even look at his infant son the same way kek.
>Eren... their (your) memories will show you how to use this power
Pure kino

We're going to see more of the Eren eating Grisha scene next chapter. I can't wait for the truthbombs.

You say this like more than half of the EHfags here don't self insert into Eren.

Ymir fulfilling someone's wish

>Eren could have saved his mother by warning Grisha
>Didn't because he needed to fuel his freedom boner
Lmao what a piece of shit,

t. EHwhale selfinserting in Historia

Oh my god you are literally retarded. We saw last chapter that Grisha went to the chapel and could have gone into the cave but didn't because he wanted to spend more time with his family. The only reason he went there that day was because Eren told him to. He didn't even know when he left that the wall was going to be breached.

>eren can change the past
Source?

Actually Historia was my favorite character before Marley and still in the top 3 right now, i like EH because it means Historia is an actual character not a puppet who got manipulated or forced.

Isn't it pure kino? For literally 2 years, we had people say Eren's being a slave to Kruger or even the AT itself.

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Grisha doesn't have a radar. The future was already set, Eren didn't need to tell him to spare Rod because Rod would get away

Based.
Poor Farmer-kun.

>he only left that day because Eren told him to
Source?

You clearly don't understand how autistic girls minds work, or any insecure woman. Mikasa is how they believe they are, they think their autism in real life is "cute". Mikasa getting Eren means they don't need to improve themselves or they can keep dreaming competition doesn't exists.
Mikasa x Eren = victory for them.
Notice how when someone posts Eren x Historia or Eren x Pieck a post trying to make them feel guilty appears
>"you selfinsert as Eren to fuck girls who can actually talk normal unlike me!"
Let's be honest, Erenfags ship EH, that makes EMfags (Mikasa selfinserters) mad because it brings them bad memories from their real lives aka "The boy I like/Eren would choose a different girl, not me" so they start "torturing" those evil white males for rejecting their selfinsert (Mikasa). Notice how they don't seethe against that Eren x Gabi posting, probably because they are the ones posting it because their enemy are Erenfags, not Eren. Eren is their prize. This strategy is also used by modern feminism in real life
>"I'll try to make those who rejected me look bad at the eyes of the world(Yea Forums in this case)"

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Maybe, but then he has no excuse to be mad at them. They are only reacting based on what they know or assume, and he's deliberately keeping them in the dark.

based

Yes? He could have send his memories to Grisha

>he can send memories to Grisha
Source?

If he warned Grisha it would create a time paradox making him incapable of warning Grisha

His mother, Carla, was the one who actually gave him the courage to move #Forward. Not Historia.

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>i like EH because it means Historia is an actual character not a puppet who got manipulated or forced.

Lol, right now her character is
>you have to have this baby for the sake of the future
>okay

Big choices! Free will!

>Why would he do that if Eren told him the exact location and time brainlet?
At that point Eren hadn't contacted him. Grisha was still following Kruger but pussied out. Later he got memories from Eren telling him to fucking do it, and on which specific day he should.

Yeah, being the MC's personal baby factory would be so great for her character!
>t. Eren self-insert

The pregnancy was an accident. Children are the future.

>at thay point Eren hadnt contacted him
Source?
>later he got memories sent from Eren telling him to do it
Source?

Imagine being this much of a brainlet

>grisha knows Eren will win
>tells Zeke to stop Eren
>this is actually what makes Eren win
Nobody can beat Godren.

Little Eren told him that Carla was eaten.

Somehow it would have failed. Eren can't change the past.

Well you'd know if Zeke kept watching. A shame he didn't

There was an edit with Eren using Kingcrimsons epitaph during the awards ceremony. if you know what I'm talkin about post it. It makes sense now

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How can Eren not be the devil or the manifestation of the Attack Titan or Eldian rage or some shit at this point. I’m probably a brainlet but how can he influence events that have already happened when he doesn’t exist without controlling everything from paths to essentially create himself in the world to carry out his plan

He was calm and wasn't mad at first but he got mad after they kept accusing him that he was being controlled. mangabeast.com/manga/Shingeki-No-Kyojin/0112-017.png
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Look at his face when Mikasa told him he was being controlled

likely it was her idea

Literally this chapter, brainlet

>it turns out Eren is the one controlling all three
false, read slower

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Being an accomplice to Eren is better than being his pawn.

Godtier

>I’m probably a brainlet but how can he influence events that have already happened when he doesn’t exist without controlling everything from paths to essentially create himself in the world to carry out his plan
see

Why would it be her idea? She's not the one having visions of the future. She didn't speak with Yelena.

Not this chapter. I read it. You mean your ass. Stop forcing your interpretstions as cannon
This chapter never shows Eren sending memories to the past nor does it show Grisha talking to Eren before the cave.

Stop confusing cannon with headcannon. Especially if your headcannon makes no fucking sense.

>Apart from this panel, Eren looks scary as fuck
Not quite.

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Grisha didn't fully understand the power and incorrectly assumed that some of the things he saw may not come to pass

The pregnancy is not part of any plan you fucking retards, and having kids is not a bad thing, but when i see people like you i wonder if having kids is actually a bad thing.

So is Eren trying to break the loop? Or is he a slave and is inadvertently going to restart it

She's hardly an accomplice when all she's doing is sitting around and keeping her mouth shut.

What was he thinking at that moment?

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>may not come to pass
Source?
False dichotomy.

Zekebros how can Zeke turn this around?

If Eren stops Ymir nobody can defeat him. He's got freedom and destiny on his side. It's not fucking fair.

Stop speedreading.

She would still be the only person Eren trusts enough to tell her what he's going to do.

Stop confusing cannon and headcannon speedreader.

>My dad is such a cuck holy shit

He told Zeke to stop Eren. He wouldn't have bothered if he thought Eren's dream was inevitable.

By becoming who he is and joining Eren in the rumbling

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Everyone already knew this but its nice to have sources

Kek. I might actually become right wing maybe that way people will think I'm strong, hot and not an incel.

LMAO after this chapter do you really believe in the meme of an accidental pregnancy?
AHAHAHAHAH dumb EHfag

>he wouldnt have bothered if he thought erens dream was inevitable
Source?

>The pregnancy is not part of any plan

You still believe this after everything Eren did this chapter? It was literally a whole chapter of Eren manipulating things and sending information to ensure certain outcomes. The pregnancy is gonna be the same, it's necessary for whatever vision Eren has. The accident meme is dead.

>That scenery

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Basic fucking logic.

ah, yes
>Eren is sooo evil xDDD

Maybe it’s not Eren’s plan or he’s not a slave but how can the ending not involve the loop repeating or being broken, what other option is there.

We don't know how much he told her. And it's possible he broke her trust to drive her away like he did his other friends.

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Eren is doing everything for Historia's sake, he's Anakin.

Put it in a syllogism for me if its "basic fucking logic."

It's actually predestination

I'd rumble the world too if I saw this.

>he might have told her that her entire life was in the palm of his hand the entire time
Id cry too

Anakin was doing nothing for anyone else but himself.
The rest was bullshit

She's crying because Eren told her correctly that this was the last time she would see him alive

Youre confusing the term closed time loop with the idea that everything will restart again.

Closed time looo doesnt mean what you think it meana. Stop being a fucking brainlet.

>he broke her trust to drive her away like he did his other friends.
proceeds to tell everything Eren is planning to the MPs and they feed him to someone else.
Stop being a fucking idiot

People generally don't ask eachother to do things which they think are impossible to do.

Don't believe so.

If Eren was truly alone he would have broke years ago.

Is Historia actually a whore?

A good answer when there is no argument, right?

...kino...

1. Thats not a syllogism
2. Source?

>The only reason he went there that day was because Eren told him to.

Maybe not. As a doctor, we know that it wasn't unusual for Grisha to travel. What if this was an ordinary business trip, and he received a premonition of the fall of Shiganshina on the way? If he was helpless to save Carla and Eren from where he was (too far away to get back in time or whatever), he might have independently decided to go ask Freida to intervene instead.

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Isayama had baited you, not me.

Who's the most retarded character?

>Yumiru
Kills herself, gives jaw titan to the enemy, over a promise that Reiner has never had the ability to keep; nearly dooming Historia despite loving her.
>Asian manlet
Gives bomb to suicidal man with super-human regeneration abilities, puts detonator in his mouth, stands 20cm in front of him, tries to torture him
>white guilt zeke
The solution to racism against your people? Just genocide yourself. Brilliant.

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She was a virgin until Chadren had consensual sex with her for the sole purpose of procreation. So no, she’s not a whore

Ah I get it thanks user

yikes

Are you the kind of brainlet that would genuinely ask someone to do something you thought impossible?

>If i pretend to be retarded i can win the discussion!

>she was a virgin
lmao
I guarantee you Ryner fucked her plenty of times

The dyke.

>ending audio
>sounds of destruction
>Armin shouting "Eren"
>new chapter
>Eren's wish will come true
Its happening

Reiner is more homosexual than Zeke.

Maybe hes not sure? Maybe he wants zeke to try despite his certainty just in case?

There are many better explanations than: Grisha knows for sure that its possible to change the future

Keep dreaming Reinerfag

>She was a virgin
oh nonono he doesn't know, don't tell him

Reiner doesn't about the little death, only the big one.

>anyone who doesnt agree with my retarded interprations is being retarded
Stfu loser

I DIDN'T FUCKING SAY THAT. I said he THOUGHT the future he saw could be changed and that HE WAS FUCKING WRONG.

STOP.

SPEEDREADING.

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>I can stop it, I can fix it.

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>and incorrectly assumed that some of the things may not come to pass

Maybe you should stop speedreading your own words retard.

That's different form acting retarded and pretending to not understand what he was saying. You got called out, just say sorry and move on.

Why would Historia shag some random farmer, though? Not saying that it's necessarily Eren's kid, but there is something fishy going on imho. Either way, since this kid's on the way you can be 200 percent sure that the rumbling is happening and Zeke is gonna get mega cucked

I wonder what will happen to Zeke when he fails. Will he die inside paths?

Ymir by far.

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He says grisha incorrectly assumed that some things may not come to pass. Pretty clear and cut to me that he thinks Grisha assumes the future isnt determined.

>manipulating time,space and destiny for Freedom
Jesus
Does this connect with anyone on emotional level?
let's try our best to value our freedom in life from now on.
Thank you based Eren.

Are you seriously fucking retarded? Grisha INCORRECTLY assumed that the things he saw, IE, the future memories, may not come to pass. It's literally exactly what I fucking said. No wonder you're so confused, you're some spic that never learned fucking english!

No, because the fate is already written and none of teh AT holders (not even eren) are able to change the big scheme.
Also avoiding carla's death would cause too many problems( grisha being discovered, eren can't abotain the powers and drive the story as we know etc...), so, no matter how much eren love his mother, he can't save her, same for hannes,levi's squad,mobblit,marlow,erwin and sasha (and many hacks would actually give to him the chances to save all of them, so praise isayama to be so coerent to his narration instead of being blueballed). The grand desing for eldia (and maibe the entire world) salvation in something that all the attack titans must follow, even if it is a painful path full of innocent blood and tragedy.

Now post the copypasta

Right and the incorrect thing is not the thing im arguing about ita the assumption part you retard.

STOP SPEED READING

>sending information to ensure certain outcomes.
Grisha and Zeke assuming that was happening doesn't make it true. We didn't see any proof that Eren has full control over the flow of memories to Grisha. We don't know if he cherrypicked them. This could all be magical thinking on Grisha's part, attributing intent to random happenstance. Eren never admits to it either.

>broke her trust but still expected her to do what he said and lie to the government while hiding his involvement in her pregnancy and the reasons for it
That sounds highly counter-productive. If she doesn't trust him she has no reason to play along.

And that's a fair assumption from the fact that he asked Zeke to stop Eren.

No its not. Especislly considering Grisha straight up says that Eren will win you dumbass

But I'm fucking right! Do you not know what an assumption is?

Yes i do. Youre saying that Grisha believes its possible to change the future. Theres no reason to believe that he believes that. Especially since he sttaught up saya Eren will win.

Why don't beyblade turbomanlet and smelly scarf breed and make Ubermensch offspring already?

How will Eren stop Ymir(Krista)?

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Zeke explicitly says he cherry picked memories to send back.

No he did not

If he thought the future was set in stone, why did he beg zeke to stop eren?

Yes he did

He'll touch her and see her memories discovering she's actually from the future

I listed possible reasons dumbass
See:

How does this relate to pregnancy was an accident meme? This meme, by the way, is dead, as is Uncle Zeke.

>Historia was my favorite character before Marley and still in the top 3

Why?Are you retarded?Do you have mental deficiency?I don't like Mikasa too so this is not an attack on you, I'm geniunely curious.

Pic or it didnt happen

He's been totally by himself for months with no real friends or allies.

I think all he needs to keep going is his vision.

He did, but that doesn't mean he's right. Eren even thanks Zeke for giving him the chance to "forge this path". If Eren could just send memories, he wouldn't even have needed this Zeke stuff, he would just send a memory of himself saying what he said this chapter and wouldn't need to be "in" the memory to do it.

Grisha saw a bunch of future memories that we haven't been shown yet, but it's not settled that Eren can just manipulate this in any way.

Zeke said that because he heard Grisha imply it, and he assumed it was the truth. How the fuck would Zeke know one way or the other? He's not inside Eren's head, he didn't know anything about how the AT's powers until today, and he didn't experience Grisha's visions. It's a wild guess based on circumstantial evidence.

Look at the bottom of page 39

Since she's pretty much mindless and has no will of her own, assuming that the same rule of the outside world apply in the P A T H S warudo, he just touches her and we get rumblin'.
ez pz

>This post was made by a Woman

Dont see any text that shows zeke explicitly saying Eren cherry picked memories to send to the past

I NEVER SAID HE KNEW FOR SURE. I SAID HE MADE THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE.

"This path" was Eren getting to bully Grisha in person, and to use the coordinate for rumble time

jump threads like the good cucks you are

>How the fuck would Zeke know one way or the other?
Because it makes perfect sense.

I'll quote you again:
>incorrectly assumed that some of the things he saw may not come to pass

That means that you believe the Grisha believed it was possible to change his future vision. Theres no reason to believe that.

"You could show him only memories that were convenient for you"

MAY motherfucker, MAY. STOP SPEEDREADING.

>could
>could
>could
Read slower

The whole point about Historia's plot was she not becoming a good person

May means possible retard. You didnt say he may believe

Learn subtext, autist. He was describing Eren's capabilities, and implying he had used them.

>it makes sense
>could
It was Zeke's assumption based on the limited evidence he witnessed, not a proven fact. He came up with a theory he believed and acted on it. He doesn't make a single statement of fact on page 39.

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That's because there is no ambiguity on whether or not he belives. He doesn't maybe believes it's possible, he DOES believe it MAY be possible.

>explicitly
>subtext
>explicit
>subtext
Learn english retard

Again, you absolute autist, the implication is that he did. And we have no reason to think otherwise, because it makes perfect sense.

And im challenging the belief you speedreader. I dont believe theres any reason to believe he believes that.

I never said "explicitly"

It makes literally no sense.

Give her the D

HE TOLD ZEKE TO STOP EREN. So obviously he must have some degree of hope!

>Zeke explicitly says he cherry picked memories to send back

What about it doesn't make sense?

Some degree of hope is not the same thing as belief dumbass

Oh, I see the confusion, that wasn't me

The belief of a possibility is the definition of hope

>the implication is that he did.
Isayama would never mislead or bait his readers, right?
>And we have no reason to think otherwise, because it makes perfect sense.
It makes perfect sense to us because we have the same amount of information that Zeke did, user. We have no idea what Eren is thinking.

Consider it this way: if we're supposed to just accept that this is how Eren's powers work, why has Isayama refrained from showing that explicitly in this chapter? Why not have Eren confirm or deny it?

so, by "that scenery". eren was talking about everything we saw in the chapter, right? what else from grisha's memories could we have seen about future eren?

1. Why didnt the past change? If Eren has the ability to send memories to the past at will why does it only ever seem to be memories that were necessary for the present to exist? A closed time loop would completely contradict that the AT ability is to send memories to the past. It is completely consistent with passive future sight.
2. If Eren can send memories to the past why doesn't he completely spam memories to the past? Why does it only seem like grisha recieves memories during the time period that zeke and eren are ghosting around? Seems like its related to the founder and AT titan stalking a past AT not a thing specific to the AT titan.

Nope. He could know for certain that it wasn't possible but still ask for the HOPE that a miracle is performed.

Belief and hope do not need to coincide. I believe jews will continue to exist forever. I HOPE THEY ARE ERADICATED

Because Eren just glaring at his brother is way more Kino than him saying "Yeah Zeke, and any other hypothetical third party viewers, that's how my powers work"

not at all, Grisha saw Eren's future, he saw his "dream" becoming true, basically Grisha saw the rumbling, Eren supposedly saw it too as a memory from Grisha but i think he saw another part of that future that he considers is worth all the problems, i personally think Eren saw the scene depicted in the last panel

The rumbling. Eren's dream.

You don't believe they will, you just think they probably will.

oh yes, that makes sense. that would explain why he knew that eren's dream would come true

literally take philosophy 101. You don't even have a basic understanding on what knowledge is or what is means to have a belief.

Stop being a brainlet.

Eren's definitely cool as fuck in those panels. But Isayama has used characters' secondhand surmise to mislead his readers before. I believe his phrasing of Zeke's accusations was very deliberate. Zeke's conclusion makes sense, but he doesn't have any concrete proof. And we have no proof either. For now, it's just a likely possibility, and one that's going to leave fans autistically speculating over how deep the rabbit hole of Eren's "evil" manipulation goes.

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1. It's a closed time loop. Eren can only send back memories which he already sent back. There are not multiple timines, just one linear string of events. If Eren tried to change something he knew for a fact, happened, he would fail, and we know he would fail because the thing happened. However, Eren can influence events that he personally doesn't know about specifically.
>Why does it only seem like grisha recieves memories during the time period that zeke and eren are ghosting around?
...because obviously we can't see the parts we're not there to see? Also, Grisha implies Eren sent him memories before. He went to the royal family on the day Maria fell because Eren told him to, and killed them as he instructed, specifically sparing the father. Eren didn't tell him to do that just now, it was a previous communication. Of course, Eren being able to DIRECTLY speak to Grisha snd bully him is only enabled by the coordinate, and Eren thanks Zeke for the opportunity. As far as why Eren doesn't spam memories, well it would probably make things really messy, for one. Remember, younger Eren recieved future visions by seeing Grisha's visions of older Eren's memories. If older Eren revesled too much, young Eren would get too much, too fast. In fact, in this way old Eren would have some idea of what exactly he should share, because he can just tap into Grisha's memories and see which memories were sent.

precisely this. he did the exact same thing with armin in 108.

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Well what I do know for sure is that Eren projecting his autism backwards in time 2000 years is neat enough for me

"he can only send back memories that he has already sent back"

contradicts

"he can send back memories"

You cant have a closed time loop like that. A normal closed time loop with future sight makes sense because your sight of the future effects your decisions. The ability to send back memories is not the same. It literally makes no sense. How would Eren know what memories he's suppose to send back? Is there something that just prevents him from spamming them?

Its incoherent on so many levels. It also contradicts zekes claim that eren can cherry pick memories.

youtube.com/watch?v=2c3iT-3nhXI

>You cant have a closed time loop like that.
Yes you can. Go watch harry potter and the prisoner of azkaban

>brainlet

The fact that he exists in a closed time loop means no matter what he sends it will be correct. It's literally impossible for him to get it wrong, he doesn't even have to think of it on a metaphysical level like the readers. He just has to move forward like always

Exactly. And in fact, he's literally incapable of stopping himself. If he tries, he already failed.