Shingeki no Kyojin

PSA. To speed reader before you comment on the attack titans powers.

EVERY SHIFTER CAN SEE THE MEMORIES OF PAST USERS VIA PATHS.
THE ATTACK TITAN CAN THE SEE THE MEMORIES OF PAST AND FUTURE USERS VIA PATHS.

That's it, it's an extension from previous established concepts, and the explanation from Erens seeing a potential future as a child, and Kruger knowing of Armin and Mikasa.

Speaking of the memory shards, since the paths memory trip is over, I wonder when we'll get the flashback regarding Historia and Mehmet. I'd rather it not be done as a trope where the flashback is revealed, moments before Eren dies in an attempt to bring some sympathy since I expect him to be a tragic hero of some sort by the end.

To be honest I doubt there's a real "loop".
Loop means repetition, and there's no repetition here, all the events just happened once and will happen once.

>Kruger let Dina and Grisha’s friends turn titans because he saw Grisha’s memories writing it down

I'm not sure we're done with paths memories quite yet, I think we might still see the night Eren ate Grisha. But Historia and Mehmet will probably have to wait. Right now is about making Eren seem villainous, and those two memories are probably the most likely to show that isn't true.

What did he tell her?

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Historia has helped Eren recover memories on numerous occasions.

She knew Eren saw something here.

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>You have to fuck this farmer
>For the sake of the future

You are missing shit about how the Attack Titan can somehow selectively choose which Future Memories it allows the past to see somehow. Eren has done this with no explanation of how he is able to do so to such an extent. Apparently not all Attack Titans are equal

Desperate one invaded.

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Cute and canon. Can't wait for EH to sink and all these desperate incels ITT to pick up a rope and end it.

>Historia, i've always hated you

When did you realize that Reiner and Marley is the only side that is good?

;_;

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>JMchad
Based

It's more that the memories must be actively sent back in the first place.
Not just random memories from the future.

>even Monkey King realizes this scene is special
C U T E & C A N O N
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Okay, so get this. Ymir is still stuck in the PATHS from the very first time she came into contact with the "source of all organic matter" whatever that is. This is why she's still a child. Since we now know Eren can send his memories to previous SnK shifters, we can assume he's going to release her from the PATHS 2000 years ago and give her the power of the titans. She'll see the world in ruin through his memories and deduce that he is the Devil, starting that myth.

That's what I'm saying.

For example, picture if Grisha upon seeing these images from the future killed Eren and prevented him from inheriting the Attack Titan. That would have broken the loop, there would have been no continuing. Therefore, this wouldn't be a stable loop. Therefore, Grisha wouldn't have seen any memories from the future, and a different pattern of events would take shape. Resulting in yet another unstable loop.

The loops would go on and on, until they start to close in on stability. Kind of like water running down a rock in an unpredictable path, until slowly over time a stable path is found.

That path must be stable, meaning any small deviation from the path leads you back to the path. That means it must center strongly around the personality of the user. So for example, a path would never be established which requires Eren to do something contradictory to his nature, such as spontaneously killing Mikasa (loops are possible where this happens, but they would not be established).

Thus, observing this loop which Eren established gives us insight into what is most important to his character. It's not saving his mother, it's achieving his revenge.

Why is there so much fucking shipping here. Not even discord or leddit have as much as shipping.

>sibling is jealous of his other sibling
Based

the timeskip. when the focus switched to them, it became clear to me that warriors are the true protagonists of the story.

Btw, Jean > Eren

He’s responsible for the death of the only other person that ever cared about her

JM CHADS WHERE YOU AT

Why would there be anything else? Look at all these reddit tier theories posted ITT. Every single mongrel is merely repeating what others have already said before. These threads are a giant cesspool. Shipping is the only thing they are good for.

REMINDER FARMERCHAD IS A MAN OF INTEGRITY AND ISN'T LYING ABOUT BEING THE DAD TO HISTORIA'S KID. BUT EHKEKS WILL SLANDER THIS HONEST MAN'S REPUTATION JUST CAUSE HE VIOLATED THEIR SNOWFLAKE FEELINGS.

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>he's crying
holy shit, wasn't he crying on Historia's hand part too?

Historia accepted it and Frieda was pretty okay with Paradis receiving a punishment

>TRIPS
RIP EHBROS

>Every single mongrel is merely repeating what others have already said before.
And yet that's still better than the retarded EHfags and EMfags getting triggered over one another and shitposting everywhere

The way Eren is drawn here is really quite reminiscent of the devil in the book of Ymir.

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> it's achieving his revenge.
I would say it's just being free of titans.
>For example, picture if Grisha upon seeing these images from the future killed Eren and prevented him from inheriting the Attack Titan.
And that would be impossible. By your theory there wouldn't be an "unstable" loop because Grisha never kills Eren.
That's my point, there's no unstability, it's fate, it's determined destiny, nothing that happened can be changed.

I miss YH

>Implying he’s told her
Anons...

Speedreader

5 fucking threads in 12 hours

>Isayama: “My entire existence, from beginning to now, completely depended on my father’s decisions.” Within this despair, when Eren witnessed the very similar Historia releasing herself from the Reiss curse, he decided that he must do the same. Everything must be done for his own good - when you think about things this way, it’s easier to understand Eren.
So Eren became free by controlling Grisha?

That's just assumptions, plus that'd confirm Eren is a slave.

no u

cool story bro

>He’s responsible for the death of the only other person that ever cared about her
More like two, he killed Frieda by using Grisha and he killed dyke Ymir by using the coordinate nearby anf forcing her into suicide to get Porco Jaws later for WHT sake.
Maybe he just told Hisu the harsh truth like he did with Mikasa, he still might be the father cause he saw in future he needed Reiss heir, he told her after impregnating and using her to gor to the farmer for cover.
Damn that would be cold as hell but knowing what we know now about Eren rather possible, still better outcome than blackmailing Historia into fucking farmer with killing orphans.

Ok. What the FUCK did Isayama mean by this?

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Hand fetish. He's the Tarantino of hands.

What was Mikasa's purpose in the story?
It feels like she's a side character at this point.

Her connection to Hizuru has been damn near irrelevant. Her relationship with Eren has been stagnant for the entire manga. The only plot point left that she might be tied to is the Ackerman bloodline.

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>Thus, observing this loop which Eren established gives us insight into what is most important to his character. It's not saving his mother, it's achieving his revenge.
This and the last HS au Isayama did for the ast volume, Eren got very upset that the zombie reality wasn't real, even though people were dying and in despair, he got the be the center of attention.

>plus that'd confirm Eren is a slave.
Duh.
That's why he wants to break free.
>assumptions
All our theories are assumptions, but the fixed timeline one seems to be the most correct one based on the evidence.

Lesbian bean flicking fingers.

I'm saying, how do you define a "stable loop"? What defines which stable loops get established (there are infinite possible loops)

To do that, you have a hypothetical "unstable loop". Something which we never see in the story. That unstable loop will create another unstable loop, which will create another unstable loop.....etc. until you close in on stability. That is how a stable loop is established, and that is what we see in our story. The unstable loops are not visible to us, the are only theoretical. But using this idea, we can get an understanding for what a "stable loop" means

It's a concept you find in the calculus of s variations, lagrangians. Basically you have a path, and any small deviation from the path leads you back to the path. Thus you are finding "the path of least resistance" so to speak. Except in this case, that path of least resistance is a timeline through our story. And the timeline must take into account all of the personalities and motivations of the characters in the story. And most importantly of course, the user himself

Historia's hand as Eren leans in to kiss.

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Dumb EHfag

Based. Farmer-chad just taking care of his soon-to-be wife and kid.

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Not until there's a instance of Eren tryoling to change the past and failing.

Frieda was just a poor sweet girl, enslaved by Karl the Cuck. She did nothing wrong, it's the 145th king's fault that he never had any balls to protect his people.

Suck on Hisu's fingers

That really sounds like Eren and Zeke merged.

>apple was the child along

Farmer chad face and name reveal when

This. She deserved a life of peace with her husbando

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Based. Most of EHfags are into delusion shits

>Eren will eat all titans
>by eating Zeke he'll create his own royal line
>by eating all titans and having all the powers in one body, he'll be beyond Founding Titan, he'll have the full powers of Yimir.
>Eren will go back in time to stop all oppression of Eldians
>Eren will find an eldian girl being oppressed
>Eren as a titan god will give her the power of the titans creating the entire lore of the show
>there can't be two gods
>Eren beats Yimir in a god battle and traps her in the path realm to do his bidding
>Eren is the alpha and the omega.

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I killed Frieda

If farmer was actually the father, is he a top 5 chad in the snk universe?

>incest
ew

>e-eren what happen?
>we have to talk historia
>*proceeds to masterplan everything*
>this way we can protect everyone hisu
>at what cost? making you slave of a future your dad sees
>i'm just a cute face queen and thats the duty i accept to myself, but i'm willing to throw it all away so i can help you
>no!!! your presence is too important for the people in the wall, both of us will have to sacrifice our freedom for the sake of us eldians, BECAUSE WE WERE BORN IN THIS WORLD
>*blushes at such manly frase*
>i will protect you historia, from the marleys, the military, the survey corp, now everyone is our enemys
>at least, we are not alone, we have each other eren
>*feel months passes, plan in action*
>*millitary wants hisu to fuck zeke, have as much children as possible or to become a titan herself*
>*after many secret matchups*
>if we take action now our plan will be a failure, at least i will be useful as a fake queen b-bu...
>THIS WORLD IS CRUEL, i can't let you sacrifie yourself more, but i'm going to marley i can' protect from now on hisu
>buf i choose to deny it, at least once, i want to do what i want *blushes intensifies* e-eren, i want to follow the PATHS i choose
>*scene is cut*
>*after fuck*
>have we done the right thing eren? will this plan be for the best?
>IF WE WANT TO PROTECT ARMIN, MIKASA AND EVERYONE this have to be done
>*automatically repent her actions over this frase*
>*isolates herself in a farm*
>*farmer-kun is her only consolation*
>*eren is officially a cuck, keep going forward out of rage*
>*present days*
>called mikasa a thot
>gets angry seem his father caring for his family
>"all women's are thots dad"
>cries internally I'M NOT A KEK LIKE YOU ZEKE
>laterally wants to destroy the world for the sake of hiding his cuckness
>hisu is getting layed by farmer-kun with no responsibilities, only fat dick and happiness till the world is over

Imagine being an Eren hater and then reading the new chapter

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What would a ZF child even be like?

Does anything Zeke does even matter anymore? Everything Zeke tries is leading to Eren's eventual victory just like when he tried to unbrainwash him.

It's not incest. Not even close.

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>in the calculus of s variations, lagrangians
Yeah, it's not that difficult, you are overthinking it a little.
If you want, think that there is no stable loop because there is no unstable loop.
There's no more loops than just one, inmutable and already fixed.
You have to account for PATHS, and I doubt THAT can be calculated with our physics, but then again I'm no mathematician.

>this shitty meme again
Their nearest ancestor is from 200 years ago

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Based loopchad spoonfeeding the brainlets. You're doing God's work there, bro

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So far he's just fulfulling his past, he didn't try to change anything but provoked it and made it so.

Both have royal blood, so it's still disgusting incest.

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>Jean is Isayama's favorite character
Does that mean that Reiner will actually fuck Mikasa?

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How the fuck does Ymir Fritz have 3 kids when it looks like she hasn't gone through puberty

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>EMA's VAs
>Isayama
>Araki
Who are the rest?

>blaming Eren for Shitmir being a cocksucking retard for RB

WHERE IS HISTORIA?

Don't say she's retarded. She ships EH and knew she was in the way.

cope

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Here is the full image, can you find her?

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The right one.

She lived for 13 more years after that point.

I rabu Jiiku!

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EHfags BTFO.

There is nothing to cope about regarding your delusion, incest shipperwhale

Why does Eren have tits?

Assuming

Eren is so cute!

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Yes, Frieda. EH.

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This.
Noice.
What are the green lines tho, PATHS dimension?

yea

>Can't honestly tell if Eren or Frieda
Maybe that's why Zeke thought they'd get along.

Right there

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When we got ant pics I couldn't tell if it was Frieda or Eren

t. seething ZPfag

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What will happen first
>Annie out of her crystal
>Historia POV
>Manlet recovered and fighting again

Nah, just someone who likes Frieda and it's sad to see not even she is spared from delusional shipping shit

This chapter confirmed once and for all that all royal pussy is the property of BYC (Big Yeager Cock).

There are so many unresolved plotlines I can't see this manga ending before another handful of years. Wish he could do it faster than one a month.

When we got gook leaks I couldn't tell if it was Frieda or Eren

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>Shitrentards are toilet cleaning p*Les.
Yikes

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Is Hisu into guys that look like her sis

Levi will never fight again.
Historia's POV is coming at the end of the volume, but only briefly.
Annie isn't waking up until the middle of next volume.

It's the yurifag. Best to ignore.

>unresolved plotlines
He can just answer all of that in one chapter, what to worry about there user? Don't be pessimistic

here?

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Do any of these really matter, except for *possibly* Historia's? These past two paths chapters feel like they've made the scope of the story so much bigger

Neither of those
Forget about those irrelevant subplots already

Will Eren go back and see the origins of the Curse of Ymir when he touches her? Would clear up a bit more story

>self hating race guilt
>frog flag
Sometimes life imitates art

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>Eren is the Devil
What a tweest. This will happen for sure.

Shut the fuck up

AoT was never about shipping

I don't think so though

That's probably what'll happen. Also Ymir looks so eerie with her eyes closed in the last page

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Literally no shipping in the op, if you really want us to believe you are not a shipperfag stop being so triggered

He'd make it so the titans exist.

bros... I can't stop thinking about Hisu hands...

>The reason of all of Eren's problems was actually Eren

We know, Eren.

Wait.
Eren went back and talked Grisha into killing royal family and acquiring coordinate.
But Eren did this when kissing Hisu hand.
But that happened after he used coordinate power to bail everyone out of titan attack when they fought Reiner&Bert.
They should all be dead.
But Reiner&Bert wouldn't try to capture Eren in the first place if he didn't a have a coordinate.
Ahhh, my head hurts, how does this all work?

>The original lifeform was just a dumb piece of meat, that's why Ymir was able to fool it and take its powers
>Kruger takes over it and obtains the power of the 9 titans
>Eren has to fight it as a regular human
He'll become Heros.

I will legitimately kill myself if EH doesn't happen. I'm betting it all on this one, I will have nothing else to live for.

I know I took this ship too far but what is done is done.

GODren

Aot is only about shipping, lol. Nobody is interested in the plot, everyone cares only whom Eren chooses.

After all that Eren has had to sacrifices, all of the hard decisions he had to make, all of the pain and suffering he has went through, he deserves a good ending. He deserves freedom.

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>he killed dyke Ymir by using the coordinate nearby anf forcing her into suicide to get Porco Jaws later for WHT sake
Literally what? Ymir made the choice to leave Historia behind because the Coordinate gave them a future, come the fuck on.

It just works, user

Farmer, pls.

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We know, Ymir

Eren was only able to interact with Grisha because Zeke allowed Eren to enter Grisha's memories with the power of the Founding Titan.

They exited Grisha's memories after he left the Reiss cavern, so future Eren was never there for when Grisha discovered Carla had been eaten. Eren hasn't been manipulating everything from the start. He's only been able to interact with the specific memories he traveled to with Zeke's usage of the Founding Titan.

All the pain and suffering is of his own making. He's a slave only because of his own actions. He'll never obtain freedom and his only future is death.

So how often was Grisha able to see Eren and Zeke through Paths? Eren urging him to fight Frieda could have been subconscious, but Grisha acknowledging it was Eren’s wish to take the founder and talking to Zeke seems odd to me.

結果だけだ。

Eren was only able to interact with Grisha because Zeke allowed Eren to enter Grisha's memories with the power of the Founding Titan.

They exited Grisha's memories after he left the Reiss cavern, so future Eren was never there for when Grisha discovered Carla had been eaten. Eren hasn't been manipulating everything from the start. He's only been able to interact with the specific memories he traveled to with Zeke's usage of the Founding Titan.

I still don't think he's changing anything, or really capable of doing so.
otherwise they could change literally everything, and make things not shitty for possibly everyone.

if the Attack Titan's power is "time travel" then an Attack Titan of the past could have theoretically already done something to prevent the world going to shit, or at least prevent the current status of Eldians.

>He's a slave
To what exactly?

>But Eren did this when kissing Hisu hand.
Incorrect, Eren SAW this when kissing her hand, Eren DID this with Sieg in paths.
Eren knew what was going to happen after he kissed her, not before.

To fate.

I'm not surprised you fags got nothing else in life

Every living being is a slave to fate. Eren is unironically the least enslaved person in this series because he has the most agency.

Devil and Krista will meet

Eren never existed. All that time it was the devil who was planning to take back his powers.

As a former EHfag in your position. I've switched to EM and now have a much healthier life.

kek

Get a better ship to die for.

Why do people ship Frieda and Zeke? Did I miss something? They’ve literally never interacted before to my knowledge.

What agency does he have? He's acting entirely according to the visions of the future he's seen.

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>But Eren did this when kissing Hisu hand.
This is wrong.

Also its a closed time loop.

Mentally ill shipperfags who need to ship everything

Yes so he chose to do it that way to get his wish. He could've done it another way but he made a choice.

They would have gotten along well over their mutual hatred of their own race

When he travelled back in time then?

>EM confirmed
This panel subtly spoil us

This new chapter is pretty much going full retard. Why do I even get excited for leaks anymore.

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If he did it any other way, it would have created a time paradox, since the entire story would be different if the royal family was still alive and hold the Founding Titan.

They're both devoted older siblings who are consumed by a desire to have all Eldians die. Plus being a Yeager and Reiss makes it like a parallel version of EH. Zeke said he'd get along with her this chapter so that one comment will probably cause a flurry of activity.

Read

this chapter was based other than the O MY FULL FUTURE VISIONS
it would have worked better if it was a vague interjecting thoughts like when kruger mentioned armin and mikasa.

>literally asking him to kill himself

He doesn't have much agency other than being aware of it all, and therefore knowing how it ends.

So fagots I read the chapter. Eren fucking the best mc in the shonen history. So where did these disgusting farmerposting come from? After this chapter, it became clear that Historia was an ally of Eren and he would never dare tell her to go fuck the farmer because muh freedom. Also, his face means that in the end he will win, since he feels guilty for killing children, "that scenery" is clearly not a rumbling, but something else. Probably the freedom of his child. Isayama does not write his characters as absolute villains. Eren is just that now. So I assume that there must be something that will fully redeem him. Muh friends were unlikely, since he had risked them. So I ask you what the fuck in threads full of farmershitposting?

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> O MY FULL FUTURE VISIONS
how the fuck, Eren saw future visions in chapter fucking 1

There are no time paradox when dealing with stable time loops

>AAAAAAH NO ZEKE PLEASE STOP HER I WAS JUST JOKING PLEAAAAASE

t. EHfag

Wait, so Grisha has a daughter within the walls?

Stop being a brainlet, there is literally a future vision on the first fucking chapter

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I think I gained 10 IQ by reading this.

Mikasa is his adopted daughter.

EH b. T. Fo

The hair colors really complete the aesthetic

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Eren created the future. If you decide you want to be rich, and move towards that goal, and then get a vision of the future of your success. How does that make you a slave? The future only existed because of your drive and will

eren saw a glimpse of someone (probably mikasa) saying see ya later, eren. do you understand what the word "FULL" means?

Yes, but she is more of a son now

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Mikasa, dipshit. They adopted her after the incident.

no there isn't

So Zeke BTFO?

But Mikasa never recognized him as his daddy

>EREN?
>ARE YOU OK EREN?

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indeed
but people here are too dumb to understand

He meant to say the girl that's been living with us but is not blood related nor a sister to my son but he was short for time and said daughter

She's the one talking

But Mikasa is not his sister. They are not related. Also, Eren is desperately trying to stop Ymir because if she sterilizes everyone, he can't have a child with Mikasa. If he was the father of Historia's baby, he wouldn't care because it wouldn't affect him. Think.

kek, I read it on MJ's voice

literally who?

That doesn't really matter. He saw her as his child.

He adopted a girl who's parents were ordered to be killed by Eren

>EHcucks calling Historia a mentally ill whore
They're just digging their grave deeper and deeper

see
he saw a SMALL GLIMPSE. this chapter confirmed he saw almost everything that happened in the paths world of zeke showing eren memories of grisha. why didn't kruger know who the memory came from? why didn't kruger question grisha about not completing his mission for 8+ years? the writing is just inconsistent, and it would have been better if the memories seen into the future were VAGUE.

They grew up together you stupid retard, even Grisha treats her like a daughter.

Sterilization doesn't really prevent the Rumbling does it?

eren doesn't see the full future either way, you retard

She really didn't care about him, desu.

Nobody cares about what Grisha thinks.

t. Ereh

FOUNDER YMIR
REMOVE SEX

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he didn't think that far ahead... did he?

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This.

he literally sees the entire conversation between grisha and zeke. kill yourself, idiot. there is no other moment in the series with the attack titan being able to see that much into the future, nor does it help out about why kruger had zero idea about where the mikasa/armin quote came from.

Not inherently, but it could prevent the future Eren saw. The rumbling would be completely pointless if the Eldians were destined to die out regardless.

>"If he was the father of Historia's baby, he wouldn't care because it wouldn't affect him"
>what is trying to provide a future for his nation and people
But I'll give you this one since you're probably a woman or a fujo, so it's ok, you can't understand concepts of devotion to your people and motherland.

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Eren imitating Mikasa at this scene.
Based EM.

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Not like EMfags care about what Eren thinks either.

People can still fuck and cum, if that’s what you mean. But they will be unable to have children due to the sperm and eggs not working.

EM is canon mate, give it up.

of course not. its a simple plot set up. you can tell just by reading the manga that he has retconned designs, and he specifically has said before that he has altered his view of the ending due to the series popularity.

Is EreMikaHaven posting here? Where did you get Eren wants to have kids with Mikasa? So we now have to deal with EHfags and EMfags when Mikasa got sisterzoned?

Because it would mean acknowledging Eren as a brother

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kek

pissed Eren is best Eren

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>why didn't kruger know who the memory came from?
Because the AT paths all converged to the last shifter, which, theoretically, would be Eren. In an easier way to put it, Eren was the only one to use the AT powers at its full extent.
No, Zeke would let Eren rumble M*rley after he sterilizates all Eldians

Brother and sister user. Brother and sister

>Because the AT paths all converged to the last shifter, which, theoretically, would be Eren.
literal headcanon

EH moron
>>Muh friends were unlikely, since he had risked them.

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Actually goes to show how much of a bad writer Isayama is, he didn't even bother addressing the relationship between both these characters

Absolutely not. Looks like Eren just really, really doesn't like this euthanasia plan.

>muh revenge

>that scenery

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fuck em' dude

What if he saw the future and saw that they would all be safe in the airship but didn't count on Gabi killing Sasha after that?

EHshits need a side pairing

Fuck eldian children lives.

Cope

How did she pop out that huge head?

>t. EH pajeet

>c-cope
yeah i expected that much from someone who defends this shit

What is the actual word used there in the raws?

>thinking Eren won't stop it

Zeke cucks eternally B T F O

What would Floch say about Chadren in the paths right now?

>what EHtards want

>literally falling for the falseflag
KEK

>Thinking Eren won't kill them

Not him but what does that statement have to do with Eren's alleged nakamafaggotry? Are we going to deny that we what he pulled on the SC in Marley was blackmail, or that he endangered them for his vision, or that Jean debunked Mikasa's theory that he was doing it all for them a page before? He obviously cares about them still but come on, now.

>Zeke doesn't want to kill Eren
>He wants to stop his plans

Grew up together for a year. I hardly consider people I have been together for 3 years my family

What exactly was the “sin” that Eldians committed? It must have been some seriously bad shit if their only atonement is extinction.

Brother and sister user.

I’m sorry man. Might as well stockpile the pills now.

There are probably many hints all over the manga about Eren changing the past. But it's kinda cheap after RBA hints.

Best bro,

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I'm sure Mikasa already recognized Eren as her brother, user.

景色 (keshiki)
So literally "scenery".

And the nine years after that?

I still believe in the accident meme because the pregnancy still makes no sense.

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Eren is only gonna kill the Marleyans. Understandably.

They oppressed the rest of the humanity by using titans for over a thousand years.

What are friends for if you can't depend on them. Do you even understand the meaning of friendship? The fact still remains that without them Eren would have failed and Eren counted on them to gat his back

She just says "family" whatever that means but doesn't include Armin as that.

O-okay, EMbro.

It was part of his vision, so it had to happen. That's all the explanation needed.

>Eren is only gonna kill the Marleyans
Already shown differently.

he was talking about what he saw when he kissed historia's hand, you fucking idiot. how can you people not understand what he's talking about?

a few casualties here and there

family means as her brother, user

>>Jean debunked Mikasa's theory that he was doing it all for them
Actually this was after Jean tried to debunk the theory. Do your homework well

>few

So every time Eren was talking out loud, it wasnt some sort of odd broody gag?

He was leaving prerecorded future messages for the past Attack titan users?

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Ew, then why did she try to kiss him?

Did you read the manga dumb EHcuck?

Yes.

Why he didn't said it to her 4 years ago than?

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>kiss
Are you sure about that? Don't delude yourself, EMfag

There are three Erens, right? Kissing Eren, current Eren and mastermind Eren who experienced the future and corrected the past.

Because they’re desperate user. They’re grasping for straws anywhere they can.

>literally says he doesn't like EH
Damn I forgot how bad EMwhales were, glad Isayama dislikes EM too, bunch of autistic whales

And the list keeps getting longer.
Predict what the next asspull is gonna be about

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Because it wasn't supposed to happen until recently.

>he didn't tell her
fix

In real life, brothers and sisters can kiss each other, user. It's a sign of family

Changing history.

He's talking about a scenery from the future retard. It wasn't the Grisha scene.

>the level of speedreading of EMcucks

He shits on EM so people are surprised when it happens.

Let the many butt hurt anons hating on this post begin.

Historia and Eren are most likely allies, yes.
Because, Historia most likely knows Eren can somehow see the future.

How do I know that?
Grisha told it to the Reiss family (Rod included) and She saw many of Rod's important memories.
Not to mention Historia can somehow suck people's memories into herself too.

>
where? I'm not sure if there interaction were normal and platonic, people will mistake them for boy friend and girfriend

At least post the full scenary bro

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Jeanfags, where u at right now? Will Jean appear next chapter?

I want to see them and Historia.

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Eren cuntraped Historia for his sake so yes

user, there’s more to life than EHfaggotry.

Not until next volume.

Just remove that faceapp smile and it will be perfect

He's talking about the rumbling here right?

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he only saw the future of himself BECAUSE he saw memories from grisha. what could it possibly be other than what we already fucking saw this chapter, and was shown to us as he kissing historia's hand? he's sad because he saw his own father tell to his other son to stop him.

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>EHcumsluts are invading the thread
Cringe

EHfags are oddly much less loud and obnoxious this chapter and EMfags are flooding in.

I'll wait for another translation but it might be that the ''future'' memories Eren saw through Grisha when kissing Historia's hand were just those from the cave that day (he had seen Frieda's pov, now he saw Grisha's version of the event and saw that an older version of himself was somehow participating in it by entering Grisha's memories some time in the future). ''That scenery'' and other future memories were perhaps unlocked in later dates when he touched Historia during those 4 years, which would explain him changing behavior drastically around 7-10 months ago.

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Chapter One is called "To you, in 2000 years"

What does it mean?

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who cares about Armin Jr.

Thanks for telling me that in Yea Forums.

Will Isayama master the tactics of time travelling?

there is no time travel in snk

Wait, people still deny that she was trying to kiss him 6 years later?

>I hate dad. Eren, he brainwashed you
>"Stop Eren, Zeke"
>wtf I love dad now

Eren from way after this chapter can also come back and visit Grisha. That's likely what happened.

No, he never looks dead inside until railroad ceremony and was always happy around Hisu.

we're going to have 2000 chapters

Do you think Eren told her about the vision and that's why she agreed to get pregnant? But why would she do that if the vision is frightening like Grisha said?

>What are friends for if you can't depend on them
He expected they would come because they had no choice but to help, which is exactly what Hange called him out on when they reached the blimp. Heck, even then Armin still laments the fact that he would have fucked shit up regardless of whether they came for him or not. How can you call what Eren had them do a sign of friendship when no one among the 104th wanted this and one of them died as a result, without even knowing what she died for since the friend who dragged and the rest of the corps into this raid never told her or any of her comrades about his true intentions. Isn't truthfulness supposed to be a sign of trust and friendship too? Why all those lies and secrets, then?

Because it never happened, user.

>was always happy around Hisu
>EHcumslut sperging about her headcanon
Get a life erehis

Get off your high horse. It’s my day off. I can shit around on the internet pissing off shipperfags.

Or she was raped.

Yeah pretty much

Do you also want me to show you Mikasa and Armin VA comment about that scene. As a matter of fact Armin's VA was mad that the kiss didn't happen. She was crying( seriously). Even Isayama visited the studio because of that particular scene and gave Eren's VA control over how the promise will sound. If you think Isayama is taking Eren and Mikasa relationship for granted then you're mistaken

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>time travel/loop? shit
What the literal fuck am I reading, time to pick this back up.

If that happened she'd have every reason to report him to the MPs, but she didn't

stop. shipping. in. my. threads.

time to drop it then since that isn't in snk. only memories/scenes. no actual time travel.

Probably because he told her "if you do this you'll survive" so she agreed, no matter if what she saw upset her.

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I barely post here so...I'm curious, did you post against EMfags too?

Don't understand why some people already paint Eren as an antagonist or villain, he's literally doing this to save Eldian people and you think thats evil.
Zeke wants the sterilizations of his people, the world wants to kill all Eldians, the Reiss family was fine with Eldians being eaten by titans, and they were all carrying out their sick goals but somehow Eren wanting to stop them is evil?

Fuck the defeatists.

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>Do your homework well
That's quite rich coming from someone who seemingly can't read a single post
>Jean debunked Mikasa's theory that he was doing it all for them a page before
>a page before

At that point the MP was 50% yeagerists, 50% poisoned with Zeke's juice.

>VA opinions matter
Oookkkaaayyy

>> Why all those lies and secrets, then?
That's why we're still in PATHS man

>VAs
>Isayama with anime team
Can't believe LE is canon then

Of course not, she was just getting close to his face with her mouth slightly open while blushing like a tomato to sniff his nose.

>EHfag desperately trying to avoid discussion about an attempt from mankasa to kiss the MC
kek!

>imagine being Eren
>in the middle of dinner
>have a vision from the future
>Grim Reminder 2.0, Survey Corps raiding Liberio
>everyone coming back home after the campaign
>snaps out of the epiphany in the middle of ot after hearing someone screaming "MEAAAAT"
>looks at the table
>Sasha is screaming cause they will have meat for dinner
>flashforward to Liberio campaign
>Sasha actually dies and her last word was "meat"

You also wouldn't handle it, user, admit it

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I don't get it

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I have ZERO fucking idea where this is going.
I am fully expecting a Devilman ending with rumbling and everyone but Eren dying.

Zeke wasn't on the island at the time so the wine couldn't do anything. And I'm pretty sure the 10 guards constantly on the farm aren't Yeagerists because if they were the Yeagerists would've gotten hold of Historia

Why do you call her Mankasa EMfag?

Well now this actually makes sense. Interesting power that the Attack has.

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>> they had no choice but to help
Pure lie. Even in chapter 118, the main reason they went to help isn't because he is the founder but rather because they don't want him to die. They consider him friend first and foremost

>She was crying (seriously)
what the fuck's wrong with these people

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because i wasn't the person you were replying to, dumb rEHtard

How'd you know they already didn't?

What if Gabi's a persistent blind spot in his visions, always showing up to ruin things?

I read that if you sterilise a pregnant cat you can kill her kitties, I guess it's the same for women.

If women never existed in SNK, would the threads be better?

Both are disgusting creatures.

That has nothing to do with. So you want to talk about Eren x Mikasa? Then stop being so shy.
Tell me, for you think Eren x Mikasa will happen?

It's not about VA's opinion. I'm replying the fool who thinks she didn't want to kiss him. Try to read at least last three comments before talking, you trash of a human being

Because we've seen Historia sitting safely in the middle of nowhere? In spite of the fact that Pixis said Eren/the Yeagerists would go for her next

Just keep the good ones

It's magic sterilization though, we don't know what the effect would be on someone who's already pregnant like Historia. It could be that her unborn child would be fine but she can't have more after that.

>NOOOOOO YOU CANT DISLIKE EH WITHOUT BEING AN EMFAG
yikes, EHfags are so simple minded..

>Gave Kaji control
>Basically "Do whatever the fuck you want Kaji-san"
>Meanwhile in the scene where he talked to Historia : "No no no! That doesn't sound right at all! You have to do it like this! ... Oh, no I think I've overstepped my right as a writer. I should have let him do whatever the fuck he wanted, silly me! But it sounds so much better now. I'm happy!".
It feels to me like he barely gives a shit about EM at this point.

That don't mean much. How do you know farmer isn't in on the Yeagerist meme?

No, it would be worse because it would be even more of a fujofest.

I'm sure this scene was meant to say her words directly to him. The angle was just wrong, Isayama made a mistake when he did this

It's not about VA's opinion. I'm replying the fool who thinks she didn't want to kiss him. Try to read at least last three comments before talking, you trash of a human being

;_;

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What the fuck? Is Isayama retarded?
Future Eren cannot influence past events without having existed, but in order to exist, he would’ve had to let past events already occur, so would he be able to influence them?

I fully support this

Isayama drew an "ambiguous face™" just so he can keep the mistery for another three chapters

AWW, I love your coping. Keep coping harder

Is this the first time travel story you read?

>give stupid gary stu MC even MORE plot armor
kill yourself, retard

Dykes are accepted. Girls never. I want only boys and dykes in shonen!

this

A mangaka should at least let the VA's know about the feeling and intensity of a character's speech but Isayama left that particular Scene in the best hands of Kaji-san. And he said he wasn't disappointed. Fuck off man!!

Why would Eren panic like he did at Zeke's command? If the Attack Titan can see the future, and it's set in stone, then he should believe Zeke's command has already failed by virtue of the future vision existing.
And looking at this chapter, I think I understand the Attack Titan and how it works.
Time doesn't exist inside of PATHS, we know that much because Zeke said so. We can also assume the only times the Attack Titan can see into the future is when a user of the Attack Titan has contact with the Coordinate/Founding Titan's power and chooses to send something to a past user, since Eren had seen Gersha's memories before, but only with Zeke's power could he communicate with Girsha and get him to take the Founder. If those two things are true, then that means Eren would be the only one capable of sending memories from the future, since the Attack Titan was never also the Coordinate before. But that in itself wouldn't be a power of a Titan Shifter, because it isn't a power born of only the Attack Titan, it requires other powers to work. Most likely, that would mean the Attack Titan is still the titan who strives for freedom. But that drive for freedom is a recursive thing, because it would be born of Eren's will using PATHS to communicate the actions needed, shaping the Titan's drive to that of freedom, and influencing it's shifters to do the same.
TL;DR: Eren used the Attack Titan to convince the Attack Titan users to strive for freedom, including Eren. Eren was influenced by himself to become himself, and could only influence himself because he chose himself to become the Attack Titan, with the power of the Attack Titan.
This is some fucking big brain shit, Jesus.

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Steins gate >>> hacksayama

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user, you think AMJSC were the ones who took the decision to participate and follow Eren's plan in Liberio? You know that they have superiors supposed to make that kind of decision, notably a commander, right?
Of course they didn't want Eren to die, no one argued otherwise. But the fact remains that they had their back against the wall. They didn't want to participate in this raid, but the consequences of them not helping it would have gone far beyond just Eren's death, even them were aware of that.

You have internet, right? No need to discuss anything further with you

>, then he should believe Zeke's command has already failed by virtue of the future vision existing.
except he hasn't seen into the future any further than what happened when zeke was showing him grisha's memories

Mikasa is my brother.

AMJC's POV: Eren is indeed enemy of humanity

What?
No.
There's just one Eren.

Yeah, nah. Kruger just made that up.

Because kruger and the others AT shifters have never take posses of the FT, while eren was able to do that because he have the access of the coordinate powers. This made eren a unique case compared to the others.

>We gotta undo Grisha's brainwashing on you.
>Fuck, I gotta undo your brainwashing on Grisha

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Who is in Armin's position? Might as well put Gelgar, Petra and Nifa and cut Flegel.

You hear the same shit from EMfags daily, so it's not like one is any better than the other. All shipfags for "plausible" ships engage in such retardation.

Grisha was brainwashed how many times?

Eren can only influence Past attack titan users, because they are using the future vision to talk to him.

Grisha is using the Attack Titan power to talk to his future angry son.

The Owl followed Eren's FREEDOM mantra

Eren is literally the revolutionary spearheading all the Attack Titans with his ideals

>Eren! I killed the Reiss family!! Everyone except the father... Is this okay!? Are you happy with this!?

So did Eren tell Grisha to leave Rod alive so the whole Historia arc could happen? That's how Eren found out about Grisha's story, that's how Historia was crowned and that's how he saw the future during her coronation

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>We can also assume the only times the Attack Titan can see into the future is when a user of the Attack Titan has contact with the Coordinate/Founding Titan's power and chooses to send something to a past user
Why would they need to send something to a past user when they want to look into the future?

His vision was something beautiful, and he's working towards that.

Yet another low IQ user who doesn't know about closed loops paradox.
Isayama isn't retarded, he's just using a very popular concept that most people with an IQ above 90 already know.

But I'm a nice guy so I'll explain.
When someone can see the future, there's some theories that assume that the future they see already takes into account the fact that they can see the future and how they would behave with the information of said future. And it's done in such a way that said future is unavoidable.
If they like it, they will try to make it happen and it happens.
If they hates it, they will try to stop it. But it turns out that said event wouldn't have happened if they didn't try to stop it. But it's the act of trying to stop it that made it happen.

Cappiche?

>His vision was something beautiful
For him.

>>It feels to me like he barely gives a shit about EM at this point
Only a fool will prioritize relationship over story at this point where the manga is at. Even at that he still created 112 for the purpose of dynamics. Unlike a certain someone, who has been sitting in a chair for the past 30 chapters without uttering a word. Fucking plot device

Future Eren setup the events for current Eren and Historia to happen

To be honest if i was an eldian living on paradis i would worship Eren as my god. He's pretty based.

This definitely solidified Grisha as one of the most tragic fictional characters. Sister Killed by dogs, Manipulated by the owl, betrayed by his first son, first wife & all his comrades titanized, manipulated by his second son, first wife eats second wife, all his comrades reign terror on his sons military unit and eventually killed, second son kills first wife.

I can't help but think the official translation will fuck this up

Why are you shipping and not talking about: is Eren dead or not? I'm going to leave a topic for you snktards:
Let's say Zeke gets what he wants, IF Eren is alive he can kill him and reverse everything with Historia. If he is alive he can convince the others to help him to reverse everything. Even Yaegerists wouldn't want Zeke's goal
It almost looks like he is worried about certain fetus.

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>It's made up memories fag again
Yeah, I'm gonna wait for what Isayama actually has to say instead of reading your shit.

we read the manga from eldian on paradis view, so i dont understand why someone would side with zeke. chadren will rumble the world and give us the best ending possible.

>that scenery

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See

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Whose memory was this? aren't zeppelins relatively recent inventions

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he's dead

everything happening is postmortem

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thats grisha's memory as a kid, fucking idiot.

spoken like a true redditor, go back

Based Hunterchad

Grisha and his sister went to see one the day she died, remember?

Pushed by Kruger at the start and dragged by Eren to the finish line, truly the worst attack
More like Rod ran away first, that's it, always happened like that

>Made up memories
Where did you get that from that post?

His father is also schizo

>shonen MC dying EVER
oh boy, you're in for a ride

why do you care if eren is dead or not, hunter"chad"? its obvious he stays alive. can't believe i had to say this to a hunter"chad"...

I think so far, this is the best thread that we got so far. I'll miss this thread in the future

Did he give her powers in exchange for an apple, seems like a bad move.

Good

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>chaderen is moving so forward he is moving backwards

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How can you tell I speak like a redditor?

Cute user

He's right, you brainlets.

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I don't mean that they can see into the future at will. I mean the only time an Attack Titan shifter sees the future is when a future Attack Titan shifter is showing the past one the future. I don't think Attack Titan shifters can actually see the future of their own accord. It looks like only shifters from the future can go back to past shifters and show them things at their discretion, and it's possible only Eren can actually do that because of his Coordinate control.

So Grisha surpassed Reiner in the most tragic character in SnK?

>Isayama visited the studio because of that particular scene and gave Eren's VA control over how the promise will sound
I'm not sure what that says about Isayama's opinion on the scene when he's been so nitpicky about Kaji's performance for the shortened cabin convo at the beginning of S3, which isn't supposed to be nearly as memorable as the chapter 50 confession.
The fact that his comment below the panel displayed at the exhibition was about Mikasa's strabimus of all things doesn't help either.

So yeah, looks like EH is dead.

He didn't write shit. It actually makes sense to me. Give it a read unless you just want to wallow in your ignorance

Eren cares about his friends

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Reminder:

Fighting for an abstract ideal >>>>> Fighting for muh friends > Fighting for muh wife and child

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Jojo's Bizarre adventure is a shonen, in case you didn't know.

>We must accept our sins, there is nothing we can do except perish.
>I feel like I'd get along well with that girl

Why is Zeke such a cuck?

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Well yeah, that's a given.

>SnKtard didn't get the hint

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I've read it the first time. 100% it's the same guy who went on about fake memories two months ago.

Only if this ideal is yours and not imposed on you by some authority.

I saw it Yea Forums... that scenery

>hunter"chads" still trying to figure out if eren is a live or not
holy kek you guys are slow.

5D chess

it is over for us zecucks.....

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>Still didn't get it

What if the nine titans have two powers, one physical and other psychical or transcendental?

>Attack Titan
>ability to transform several times in a row, basically unstoppable
>time travel shit, future vision

>Jaw titan
>claws, jaws and agility
>very self sacrificing

Other titans' both powers I think have not been revealed (other than the Founder being kinda the 'main' titan).

I imagine Eren gets his freedom kick from the fact he will be the last Attack Titan, and so no one’s memories from the future are impacting him. I think that’s why he’s reacting to Zeke’s command: he knows this shit is going to end because he’s not inheriting any future memories, but HOW that plays out is up for grabs. Zeke’s plan could succeed, in place of whatever it is that Eren is planning.

The only thing we can infer for sure is that either he is protecting Historia, or he needed Zeke specifically for some reason.

Otherwise, the next Attack Titan should be affecting his decisions as much as he affected Grisha’s (and potentially Kruger).

But what if the authority imposing the ideal on you is yourself? Is Eren based if he's only fighting for freedom because Eren made him do it?

Phantom Blood is supposed to be a prologue for the whole Joestar x Dio storyline, dumb speedreader

Eren is gonna get Ymir's attention next chapter and anti-natalist cucks are about to be BTFO. Eren's white baby will be a cutie patootie

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>inb4 Eren had sent Ymir to save Zeke from dying after "I HOPE YOU'RE WATCHING MR XAVER."

>fortnite
Can't make that shit up, senpai.

>Fighting for an abstract ideal to achieve along with muh wife and child >>>>> Fighting for muh friends

Nah, cause at least Grisha was freed from this cruel world, unlike Reiner who has people literally throwing themselves into titans' mouths to keep him alive.

He was always a pussy bitch, only third world scums liked him

>muh monkey troubles guuuuys!
>muh shitkeCHAD is so based!!!

Not him but I think I get it, Eren shouldn't be this worried about Zeke forcing Ymir in the sterilization when he can convince the others to reverse it right? But that would imply to titanize Historia

Fighting for a "scenery" >>>>>>>

When Eren was telling Grisha to kill the royals, did Grisha actually see Eren there? Or was he just influenced by the words?

And more Jojo MC still died after that. So what?

Eren is not an idealist, he's a racist. He wants Eldians to be above everyone else.

Looks like the case but also it smells like red herring because it gives Grisha no reason to Kill the royal blood, Grisha and Eren may be sharing a secret

Now that I'm hanging around Yea Forums more I have to ask: Why is SnK shipping central? It seems like the least important thing to care about in this series yet 80%+ of the posts are all about pairings and shitposts about pairing. What's wrong with you people?

B A S E D

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Yeah he saw him, but in a way that he could tell he wasn't a real person.

He probably saw him because he was side-glancing him.

Is grisha truly freed, since he was eaten by Eren?

Would Reiner even have been freed if he was eaten? Wouldn't it have been funny if whoever ate Reiner became equally depressed and suicidal as Reiner's suffering never ends

Grisha is talking about the rumbling
Eren is talking about the rumbling AND the baby
Now ""non shipperfags"" will call me shipperfag

>Fake memories
Nothing in that post implies or alludes to fake memories. I think you need to boost you reading comprehension.

>people
Women aren't people.

>Your* reading comprehension

remember when the show was about people who had no hope of survival against eldritch horrors and not a minority that other people are mean towards?

Except Ymir also wants Eldians to die.

Zeke said that Eren can rumble the army after he sterilizes Eldians.

>about people who had no hope of survival against eldritch horror
It's still about it.

>Ymir
Karl did, we don't know about Ymir.

Women are the main reason why men exists

Does Hisu share Eren's ideology?

It was surprising to me as well, but after a while it makes sense, I think. You become numb to the zombies after a while, especially now when they're no longer even a threat. Isayama's just dragging us along by the balls until we find out who ends up with who.

anti-ship missiles ready to launch, sir.

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So women are the main reason wars and violent crime happen.

>about people who had no hope of survival against eldritch horrors
But that didn't change at all. We just found out that said "eldritch horror" (you misused the term) can take human forms too, and the MC was one of them. But he is still trying to destroy humanity.

We're probably going to see Ymir (Krista's) backstory next chapter or the one afterwards. Where she encounters the original devil or whatever.

we went from
man v nature
to
man v man

to finally man v fate/man v self
truly kino

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She's the one who gave him the idea in the place.

How did the Tyburs and the Royal Family not say anything about the AT? They should have at least mentioned it at certain points like with Willy’s speech. Feels like there’s some plot holes there that need fixing.

Will Annie’s beauty and bond with EA Eren stop him like in the s1 finale? Eren has been reliving the past so she’s fresh in his mind.

Was Eren’s kiss on Historia’s hand trigger the SnK? Being forced to do a ceremony and groveling to someone seems very anti freedom

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I'm more interested in the politics and time traveling monster story than who Erin has or is going to stick his dick into.

>Minorities are the eldritch horrors now

Whether she shares it or not, she's in on it and played along. Make of that what you will.

Soon

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>Joseph died of old age
>Josuke alive
>Giorno alive
>Jotaro and Jolyne died but were brought back after Emporio stopped Made in Heaven
You could argue about Jotaro and Jolyne dying by Pucci hands before Emporio stopped him but yet Stone Ocean is a CLOSURE ARC/EPILOGUE for the whole Joestar x Dio storyline and is supposed to be a, at least, bittersweet ending for some.

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Eren and Annie is the true devil pairing. They have both felt and crushed innocents and Historia has done nothing like

Then what's stopping you?

As long as Eldians and paths exist she'll be stuck in purgatory having to build bodies out of sand. Don't be surprised if she'd prefer to die and take every Eldian with her.

Reminder that Eren will be the one to give OG Ymir her titan powers and will create a time paradox.

Despite being the 1% of the world's population, they monopolize the powers of the titans.

>something introduced in chapter 1 is an asspull
dumb speedreader

>abstract ideal
Do you even know what "abstract" means? Freedom is not an abstract ideal, because it is something that can be applied to reality and he can accomplish, but once that happens what's left for him? Did he achieve this only for himself? What was Eren really fighting for? Freedom without background nor responsibility doesn't mean shit. That's where the Eldian people took place. Family, friends, race. It doesn't matter. Freedom as such cannot be embraced without those kind of concepts being heavily implied

Retards, the next twist will be that Eren saw the future and it was horrible, he didn't have a child in it either. He told Historia about it and they both realized the only way to change the flow of time was to conceive a child right there, only then can Eren truly be free and not a slave to destiny.

Go feed your cats and keep dragging your fallen tits in those dating webs for losers

>Freedom is not an abstract ideal
What is freedom then?

if wanting your only family to be safe makes you a slave… well, we are already many slaves on the planet.

Water is wet

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One can not be absolutely free as long as they don't remove the self.
What I mean is that people eat and breath, in short they obey their self preservation instinct.
And a man who obeys cannot be free.

>Eren saw far into the future
>Space is colonized
>There are interplanetary wars constantly
>Some successor of the Attack Titan is living on the moon Titan
>Calamity strikes
>"There will be an... attack... on Titan!"

I think that's dude man.

Hisu's hand is.

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I’ve been thinking recently about Eren Kruger’s words to Grisha: “Save Armin and Mikasa.” It is, of course, a future event that he accesses thanks to the clairvoyance of the attack titan. Some time ago, after Sasha’s death, I thought another (more) important death was coming. You already know Master Isayama and his murderous cravings. Who will be next to move on to a better life? I sincerely believe that … Mikasa. I never made many theories about it, but now, after chapter 121, I have reached catastrophic conclusions. I explain. When the talk of the EMA trio took place (with declarations of hate and blows in between), Eren declared to hate Mikasa and hit Armin. Charming. However, when Armin says “Is this the freedom you wanted, THE FREEDOM TO WOUND MIKASA?”, Eren’s expression is altered. There is something in those words that affects it. In chapter 121, Zeke starts talking and discovers that his brother ignores him. The cause? Eren is watching the famous scarf scene. You can say whatever you want about Eren, but I honestly think he would never hate Mikasa; I think that at that time, before the children they once were, he was thinking about the promise he made to her: “I will put the scarf on you as many times as you want.” Because, my friends, I don’t consider the scarf to be a “chain”; Mikasa has shown that he is not 24.7 with Eren. And if wanting your only family to be safe makes you a slave… well, we are already many slaves on the planet. Empathy, please. And yes, Mikasa was, at first, really protective of the Tatakae, but think of one word: adolescence. When one is fifteen everything is magnified. Or as my mother would say: hormones. Going back to the matter of hate … Obviously I think Eren is lying, for God’s sake.-COPIED

>Wanting your people to literally not be genocided is evil

Welcome to the west.

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I use the following theory, like many others: Eren did that to protect her. To protect her? Yes. Kruger mentions Armin and Mikasa; I BELIEVE ARMIN HAS ALREADY BE SAVED BECAUSE LEVI GAVE HIM THE COLOSSAL WHEN HE WAS AT THE EDGE OF DEATH… INSPIRED BY EREN’S PREVIOUS SPEECH. Armin, okay. But what about Mikasa? Surely some of you will say: HE SAVED HER FROM THE KIDNAPPERS. That was a coincidence. Do you think Eren manipulated kid!Eren to kill those men? He could not since he did not possess the titanic power. You may think that he manipulated Grisha, but it has become clear that Dr. Jaeger had nothing to do with his son’s decision. In fact, he was horrified. So, does she still have to be saved? Yes! From my point of view- COPIED

>Wears bangs to cover her very distinguishable eyebrows

All of these theories are getting me mindfucked. Is this really still shonen?

>Morphogenetic Field Time Travel
Holy
Shit

Obviously he's trying to protect her. He has an imperfect vision of the future and wants to minimize her involvement at the very end. It doesn't matter with Armin because he already has a death sentence.

The 80% poisoning discussions.

>Kid Eren was crying because Future Eren bullied him into the IPPKI NO KUROSEN turbochad of the fucking century
Holy shit

VAs are literal retards.

Small correction, but Araki has stated that Joseph was alive.
Of course, he'll eventually die of old age, but as far as the story is concerned, he lived through all of it.

So how many Eren do we have in the story so far?

They earn higher than your generation by the way and I think that's all that matters

Kid Eren
Present Eren
Future Mastermind Eren

Watch Ymir fritz to be Delta and Eren and Historia to be Diana and Sigma

If Grisha DID get influenced by Future Eren's visions does that mean Present Eren WILL win?

>They died, but it doesn't count.
Sorry?

EMfags wanting to downplay Armin gives me so much nostalgia

There is just one Eren.

>when your cunny is getting away

>Armin also had a nostalgic flashback this chapter but every "EMfag" shitposter ignored it.
Someone has the Mikasa being ignored collage?

The person that wrote that isn't even an EMfag. Sorry to disappoint you. I simply copied the theory

Yeah, it's pretty much undeniable. Chapter 121 confirmed that not only did Eren not have sex with Historia, he hasn't even TOUCHED her in the last 4 years.

Thank you, based JoJochad

In the DB franchise, Goku died a bunch of times but was brought back, so what's your point?

Do you think that Kruger’s words were not for Grisha, but actually for Eren?

Good for them.

t. EMfag sameposting

No, it was an AT forememory, Grisha's death forememory.

They don't realize this was from Grisha's point of view but my advice is to let those girls with autism thinking eren loves their selfinsert

When will EHfats finally accept the truth?

While having time-related plot was foreshadowed since beginning, the current chapter 121 actually dove into a problematic plot point where an character may be the culprit behind every single event, because of that several characters with positive and negative traits may have their characterization undone and agency stripped just like happened with Grisha, he was a cool character with good intentions that made few mistakes and very grey or even dark moral choices but now hes just a pawn of his previous and future Titan holders or solely his sucessor that seems to be the very incarnation of his Titan will, it may make you doubt every moral choice he or any other character made thus far, because every single thing may boil down to "Eren forced him", "Eren wished that way" or "Eren manipulated him", now it would not be a unreasonable to think Eren forced Grisha do get out of the gate to see a airship or even force Krugger to not act while seeing again his own people, Grisha's sister being fed to the dogs, it creates situation akin to Bleach main plot problems as everything is Aizen's plan and everything is his doing behind scenes , Eren now may even be the main culprit of his own birth, the whole "because I was born in this world" thing may gain unfathomable new meanings like Eren being born already being proof of his transcendental unbreakable will to make change the world even before his own birth.
>pic related

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Pay attention to the direction Grisha is looking while he talks to Eren in the first chapter.

>Eren took over his own father body and had sex with his own motherin order to give birth to himself

Was this really necessary?

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>Muders
I fucked it up.
Where is that goddamn noose.
Can't proof-read for shit lookin ass bitch nigga, that's what I am.

>Eren took over his own father body and had sex with Dina just to give birth to Zeke so in the future he can make Zeke suffer
Based

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It is done

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So...Eren did this

We still don't know if eren actually manipulated everything or just reminded to grisha everything during the cave scene. For what we know he can just revealed to him the shit happening to shigashina and nothing more. What is happening now was already set and the AT holders (eren too) can't do nothing to change the present or the past, they can just see what will happens and maibe remind to the others ATs what have to be done in order to succeded in eldians (or even global) savation. Eren after grisha slaughtered the reiss in this chapter was depressed (pic related), but he couldn't do anything to prevent it since everything is already written.

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Hmmmmmmmmm!

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Grisha's titan is such an absolute unit