Senki Zesshou Symphogear XV

you should make it user

Shem-Ha's line to the gears should have been translated something like "So, humans still cover the earth even after a million nights...what tenacity."

If someone's going to add anything please add El Grande Padre de Kazanari (Espada Murakumo) or something on SSSS rank with this pic

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actually i think we should wait until saturday since fudo is still alive and might get pierced by shem-ha's hot pink thing

Reminder that this is Noble Red going super saiyan.

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Shem-Miku is just leaking her divine power.

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seems like most of Yea Forums does not share your opinion
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i would leak over that butt

>red beam
>not white/purple
Checkmate.

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the curse beam diagram from episode 1 is red

When Adam summoned the Divine Power directly from the stars it produced a pillar of red light extremely similar to that one.

She's very pissed off right now. Please understand.

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screenshot? i only watched axz once

Clearly different types of beam.
Prepare you butts is all I'm saying.

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it shows adam is bitch-tier sparkles compared to god

>Noble Red
>still alive

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Mikuass is divine.

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This is the season of callbacks. Now what was the greatest moment in Symphogear S1?
That's right. Three dead girls rising from beams of light. You can feel it too, I know it.

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You think this is a fucking anime or something buddy?

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leaked storyboard for the final episode

yiff in hell

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I want to see Andou punch Anime-chan in the stomach.

Fucking Fudo
Instead of a hug and going home together we got Maria knocked out snd Tsubasa vs Fudo

Maria might be a cripple now and Tsubasa my be broken beyond repair

>motherly
>as waifu
Excuse me?

That wont happen to Tsubasa
She had her suffering

Suffering is a bottomless pit

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Tsubasa dies.

What's confusing about that?

Maria won't let her

I can feel it too Mr Krabs!

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this

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This was the good Custodians who haunt their gears reviving them to punish Fine.

Put a nyanko on your post and I'll start believing anything.

Genjuro will punch the moon, right?

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He will job somehow

(Not)comfy.

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Why didn't you protect this smile?

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Elsa is a horrible cunt. Serves her right.

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nobody will receive any permanent injuries until the final battle (if there are even any permanent injuries at all, I doubt it)

Ugly smile.

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Top dad fist his wife

Other way around.

What a cuck

Which one

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Yes

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The red beam is because her fail deadly just triggered due to the mind control.

>DMJii will be irrelevant from now because the tone changed

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DMJii will fight what has become of Noble Red in ep 11 (Vanessa's alive and use the remaining body of the two as her own. She'll have giant tail claw and wings).

If Ogawa is Nana's real producer and Brodad is her real dad then who is Maria?

Her foreign girlfriend.

Nana's mom

Her secret Ukrainian gf and the reason she is still single

Her mother?
Kanade is probably Yukarin.

>will be
>from now

But Yukarin isn't dead. Yet.

Maria will sell DMJii so she can buy a house to live with Tsubasa.

DMJii will barely sell for enough to pay rent for one month

Why has Tsubasa not bought a home in LONDON yet? We've only seen her in a hotel and that will probably get expensive after a while.

Dammit I want more geah SoL. I want to see where Tsubasa used to live in Tokyo and her flat in LONDON and her bike collection.

Dondon must burn.

DMJii are just secondary characters that are able to use relics. They weren't even in the initial script for G and only were added because King Records wanted more CDs to sell.
Not saying anything of this is a bad thing though, just stating facts.

Source?

My wife Miku is the best.

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His rectal cavity.

They can have kinky sex and they don't have to clean the mess.

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She eats Hibiki's stinky anus for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

If only they made horns 50% smaller and sleeker and changed leg-tents into some kind of maybe leg-blades then it would be 11/10 SSJ design.

That's a lot of bras for Tsubasa.

50% larger*

Her milkies are smaller and smaller. Is Maria sucking her dry or something?

She's dead inside.

Fuck off Hibiki.

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The crown is ok, but yeah, the pants are awful. In that upside down silhouette she looks like Walmart Night.

Maybe she is. But wouldn't you do the same in her place?

My daughter Elfnein is the best, but she gets suddenly very cranky sometimes for no apparent reason, what do I do?

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Funny, thats probably the same guy who claims NR is cut because they are unwelcome, who then proceeds to cite S1 changing its ending, but when asked about source, radio silence.

It's for showing her dominance

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Chris is probably less relevant in XV than DMJii.

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CUTE

>Maria is the only evil geah in G
>This means she must be able to fight the entire main trio on her own to make up for it
>mfw Maria could've been 6th ranger level
IMAGINE

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>the title of the original template is "My wonderful wife's hairstyles" but the artist inserted "Hibiki's" instead
He's patrician and you're plebian.

Will Tsubasa ever catch a break? I bet they'll fucking revive Kanade so she has to kill her too.

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Cute God

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I want to cum on Miku's back.

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I'd turn gay too if I had autoscorers working for me.

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your horns have to be as big as possible to flex on lesser deities

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What if you touch them?

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i love the silken cravat hanky thing that drops from the silver transformation gem

and the ass, this artist always draws em so chunky

Maria is so cute

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Nice try, Abe.

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But would it really be worth the price, though? Would it really be worth the price?

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Just saw the episode, how much did Yea Forums lose their shit over Topdad?

Tsubasa and Maria wearing each others colors is CUTE!

Oh, I didn't have the intention to send that image. Whatever, I guess.

So far Maria has access to Coolbasa, Edgebasa, Crybasa and Dorkbasa but at the moment Moebasa is still exclusively Kanade's. Will our Cat manage the impossible in the next episodes?

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To some degree sure, but he was a bit overshadowed by everything else going on in the episode.

It's a good image.

Why are Maria's facial expressions so entertaining? I don't get tired of those.

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Reactions were lukewarm and generally in the ballpark of "Top Dad was alright."

Ah yeah, i can see it with all the crazy shit happening this episode.

using divine lesbo magic to improve Japan's declining birth rate and make Abe proud

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Hey, I love DMJii but I can't stop wondering how thing could have been if Maria was forced into being a genuine threat.

She's going to catch them all!

DMJii had a lot of screentime in the first half of XV and still have one more big fight guranteed to show off their unison song and Amalgam. It's fine.

I just hope Kirika's issues have a proper closure in the movie.

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>still have one more big fight guranteed to show off their unison song and Amalgam.
>It's Fine.
>mfw Fine comes back to train the Zababa duo

This but Maria still dies.
Tragedy is the water of the yuri tree.

This

>Tragedy is the water of the yuri tree
Tsubasa is gonna drown!

>Kirika's scythe doesn't just rend the souls, it consumes them
>the power of Amalgam and Unison with Shirabe helps Fine's soul break through and aid them in battle
Pottery.

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Woah would you look at that, the moon is evil and is going to fuck over humanity.
If only humans had someone warning them and wanting to protect by destroying the moon.

Everyone will get redeemed. Just waiting for Adam - Tiki returns as well.

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Their Unison is literally Fine wielding Igalima and Shul Shagana

Oops.

But seriously though. If the Moon is evil we're screwed no matter what we do. If the moon gets destroyed lots of bad shit will happen.

Fuck the moon.

What about Mamu?

Look forward to those shinais, cause that's the best you're going to get.

what happened to hibiki?

She got NTR'd by an ancient evil.

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Mamu was on the Moon the whole time cooperating with Custodians there. The body they recovered was a fake.

This reminds me of Yucky Yuuna

Vote for Nana wills it or Determination to Fist to join the Yea Forums roster for the upcoming autumn cup. You can also drop a write in for Best Dad, write ins hold a bit more weight and could see a spot on the team with enough suppport
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Anyone else here gets pumped up evertime the chorus at the beginning of Ressou Gungnir is heard?

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Noble red will NOT be redeemed. They have been written as hypocritical and weak villains from day one, completely different from any other villain in symphogear.

ロンドンですわ〜

Being a villain makes a girl so much hotter and cooler at the same time.
Look at how cool Maria was before, look at how hot Miku is now. Now we really want a downgraded Fine?

Tsubasa's henshin is so good, why are the main trio transformations so fucking hype while the other 3 transform like prostitutes?

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KONO BIKKI DA

You are not wrong in the latter half, but your conclusion is wrong, the only villain Gear didn't redeem was Adam, who was both strong and cool. Symphogear never mocks weak people.

Best dad needs to be on the team

I will post this every thread until they dock.

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KORT EL FES GUNGNIR
KORT EL FES GUNGNIR

Black Gungnir was so fucking cool.

I know it's pure fanfiction that Kirika and Shirabe weren't a thing but I wish they were more of a support thing in G. The fact that she fought with the cape was the coolest shit and I would've loved to see more

Weak was the wrong word. How do you call someone who is evil but not evil cool, like evil loser?

Capes (and scarves) are lame.

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There are many forms of redemption. Noble Red will not get the kind where the show will try to make it look like their actions were justified, but they will, and there's not a shred of doubt about this in my mind, get the kind of redemption where their actions will be portrayed as tragic, that is, as a consequence of their human nature. To be more precise, the show will emphasize how they became monsters because they loved each other so much and would do anything to protect muh kazoku. Like it or not, this is clearly how things have been set up. In fact, you could say the show has already tried to sell that argument from the start, so they don't even need to try to sell this message any further for it to be obvious that's what they were going for.

This I can agree with.

You're gonna be lame if I ever see you post something that stupid ever again.

I don't see what's the issue.

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>Capes are lame.
Base-
>scarves
There is a circle of hell for people like you

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I love that song. Too bad most of what it preaches turned out to be a facade.

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Why is Miku pouting?

Well, the song is all about how Maria is willing to play the evil part for greater justice, so in a way it's very sincere. I don't think Symphogear songs can even be anything but sincere given that they theoretically come straight from the heart.

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She didn't swallow yet.

>wanting to protect
All bullshit.
It was just a desperate last-ditch effort to get God to stop giving her the "seen", and she knew it would cause worldwide calamities so she was going to be so generous as to become the ruler of post-apocalyptic humanity.

The FIS girls had a hard life user. Don't judge them.

You moon apologists are why humanity is fucked.

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>hypocritical and weak villains
>completely different from any other villain in symphogear.
What is FIS in G?

Noble Red

Why is she crying then? Is it bitter?

Okay user, fix Noble Red so anons would feel sorry for their death

Tears of joy.

They already have their fags crying over them, "Every villain must be redeemed" and so on.

Your right. Noble Red's only redeeming quality was that they were a bunch of dorks.

We'll see who'll have the last laugh one it gets confirmed that Enki activated the curse with good intentions for humanity, to stop Shem-Ha.

I don't particularly care about Noble Red, but their current arc breaks the themes of Symphogear and I am not open to forsaking that for some edge demise of characters I don't like.

It's Biki's dad's.

>breaks the themes of Symphogear
How so?

They will use the special attack thing to help the geahs go from the moon back home so they cant be gone for good

Uh no, the moon is good and is protecting humanity.

Weakness cannot be overcome.
The notion that characters deserve to die.
Plus the overall themes of hope and, yes, redemption.

Miku is not evil.

Noble Red were unrepenant and unrepentant about their massacre. FIS trio tried to keep casualties at minimum possible, knew what they were doing was bad but we're fooled into believing it was necessary and jumped ship the moment they discovered the truth. Also turned themselves in willingly.

People who can't see how Kaneko's writing doesn't blend with that scene are in for a bad time.

Remember in Nanoha A's when Fate minimized her defenses because speed was the only chance she had of defeating Signum?

Tsubasa is going to do that with Fudou and Ame no Habakiri.

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Literal autism.

>The notion that characters deserve to die.
That is the reaction of one part of the fanbase, not what the writing is saying. Unless you think they're saying every character who died in Symphogear also deserved to die.

You write like a retard and half of what you said is too vague to even begin to address.

Why did all villains get last words before their defeat until Noble Red?
What do you think the writing was trying to accomplish here?

>muh redemption
Mercilessly slaughtering civilians is something a redeemable character would do?

She is.

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What's that supposed to mean? Are you talking about people who think that's the last we'll see of NR? If so, I agree, they're obviously not just going to be written away like that.

How is that Nana gets to voice so many badass girl that turn out to be cute moe dorks on the inside?

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The only point of that scene was to shock the viewer and maybe display a bit of Shem-Ha's cruelty and power.

I am not ready for PICCIES.

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Is it too soon for wheelchair?

Jobber Red decided to kill Elf9 for literally no reason, they deserve it.

It's just Elf9, you silly bugger.

Friendly reminder that even Cowboy Bebop saved humanity with a moon shattering kaboom

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Isn't Amalgam essentially trading defense for offense already?

Wait untill the aftermath

And 70k other innocent people
>b-but they were idolfags so they dont count, they must be redeemed because dog is cu- I mean its the patterns and uhm themes!

It is

Dog is not 70k dead people cute desu.

>dog is cu
Fuck off, closet furry. I don't give a shit about that thing.

Tell that to jobber red fags.

I didn't think I'd actually want to use this image, but now I'm glad I saved it.

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>kemonomimi=furry
Brainlet.

Bully her

Imagine unironically defending sadistic murderers

Noble Red did the same. Ask them how things went.

Imagine unironically being this mad because somebody on the internet likes a character you hate.

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You can like whoever you like, being cute doesnt give them automatic redemption rights though.

I mean people defend Fine, Ver and Carol so.
Did people throw such a shit fit back in the days for those 3 anyway?

>not willingly pushing Elf9 to get Carol out
shiggy

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Reminder that Maria tops Tsubasa

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I never said they should get redeemed. I just said it's ridiculous how mad you are over this.

Fine was very charismatic, Ver is funny and Carol had a compelling motive and a good alterego. Noble Red has none of that. Their only saving Grace is being cute.

Not in bed though

I know it's fun having Tsubasa on the kitchen counter Maria, but you're not setting a very good example for your gaybies.

She's setting a perfect example for them.

No! The gaybies have a pure and wholesome gay love. Leave the lewd stuff for the big girls.

dess

There's nothing more wholesome than lewd gayness.

Maria, just like her gear, is very versatile, and is able to take Tsubasa on any horizontal, vertical or other possible or not, angle.
She's not training MMA for nothing.

If only Ogawa knew what she's using his training for.

>Carol had a compelling motive
Stop posting.

Imagine Maria using her punching training to fist Tsubasa's asshole.

only between girls

Maria needs to communicate to Tsubasa that she's willing to give her all the physical affection and comfort that she needs first.
Tsubasa is too broken to initiate physical contact but she needs it more than anyone else.
I bet Tsubasa would be like an overly attached puppy once she gets comfortable with it and try to snuggle Maria whenever they're alone.

Being compelling doesn't make it right, you know.

You're the only one thinking about boys here.

It's all for the benefit of Kazanari's heir, so its all good.

Tsubasa is a lucky girl.

Imagine Maria using her strength and superior body weight to wrestle and pin Tsubasa in a chokehold with her thighs while they're training

>Thicc and fit Ukrainian body
hnnng

FIS weren't that weak. They got some wins and used heretical tech and Ver's knowledge to get an edge on the geahs.

Does it hurt your self-esteem when people disagree with you?

Tsubasa would probably feel even more ashamed than Chris did and honestly no matter how stupid Hibiki is she could probably just stupidly hug Tsubasa and say TSUBASA YOU BEAT FUDO! just so the ice gets broken as fast as possible.

Maria should hug the fuck out of her and tell her again WE ARE GOING HOME

Don't project your insecurities onto me, GXtard.

Doing it with Maria at home.

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Signum was about to get fucked up before she got bailed out.

Maria fisting Tsubasa's loose asshole at home. And in public.

Fine never killed 70k despite being ok with killing as she had multiple lives and felt above humanity.

Ver killed but believed he was 100% justified because he's legit mentally ill. The moment he could be persuaded that stopping Carol was how he could become a hero, he did it and more, sacrificing his life for Maria and DMJii. That's legit redemption.

Carol is just a cunt, but never went BOO HOO WOE IS ME. Just "fuck you I'll destroy the world and I don't even know why anymore", which also helps justifying what she did.

Doing what? Tsubasa's laundry?

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Sound Stages confirm that's a lie. A's Fate doesn't hold a candle against a serious Signum.

No hugs for the sword
Only slaps

This based man gave Miku guro fetish

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(dun)

AND AIIIIIIIIIIIIII-E-IIIIII

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I want to taste a sandwich made by Maria.

Maybe during training, but Signum would job any onscreen fight. That's kind of her thing.

GenjuuroxAdam is peak male brotherhood.

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I see. So the problem is with people liking things about GX at all. It must have really hurt when episode 7 aired.

It's not really the morality that matters. Fine and Carol were charismatic despite being genocidal maniacs. Noble Red just don't have that charisma in addition of being woobie mass murderers

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>Any onscreen fight.
Movieonlyfag detected.

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Come, Hibiki. Sun or Godslayer, come. Come and look upon the moon, and Shem-Ha. And bring Gungnir, I have need of it.

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Tsubasa's sword.

You can't deny villains getting redeemed is a pattern.

Sometimes even jobbers get a designated jobber to show they don't always job and prepare them for their next job

>Fine never killed 70k
She might have killed many more over the course of all of her lives.

carol never got redeemed, elfnein just build herself a tulpa.

the autoscorers aren't the same ones either

I sharpen and maintain my sword every day there's not really a need for Maria to help me in that regard

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>Carol is just a cunt, but never went BOO HOO WOE IS ME
But she did, did you forget all the flashbacks?

>I sharpen and maintain my sword every day
I bet you do. While thinking of Kanade, no doubt.

That's a lot though. Let's say she lived 700 years, that's still 1 person every 3 day, and remember she's more of a researcher than a murderer. Probably killed dozens or hundreds, maybe at most a few thousands, not more.

The good thing Maria have is that, unlike Kanade, she's more of an equal to Tsubasa, they can bicker, disagree and compete with each other without any awkwardness and they can pass the lead to each other according to the situation.

She was more like "fuck you" than "pity me". Pretty big difference

Too small.

Fine did the holohoax. She tried to get rid of God's chosen people to prevent them from becoming vessels.

I'd let her pity fuck me.

Tsubasa's sword is long and hard. She just doesn't know how to wield it properly.

Which wasn't the case for Signum. In the main timeline she jobber a grand total of one time. Every other fight she was in she was either victorious or a dominating force until the fight got interrupted.

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Carol was never "oh no everyone hates me I just want to get along" and more like "FUCK the world for fucking my dad over"

>carol never got redeemed
Her last action was to save Elf9 who was a backup of her father's memories and who believed in the nicer interpretation of her father's words. Sure she'd burned all of her memories by that point, but it was still Carol at heart, and he would have never had a chance to preserve her good side if he hadn't created that backup when she was still evil Carol in the first place, which shows she always had deeply seated reserves about what she was doing. Also Tomorrow.

Neither is Noble Red, they didn't want to be humans to make friends, they didn't want to deal with a monster half and the constant need of blood transfusion to survive.

You guys do realize that the reason other villain/ex-villains didn't have as high as Kill Count as Nobel Red because Symphogear managed to save the day right? If they failed like in XV ep2, thing wouldn't be much different.

This. Carol was never asking for sympathy or an apology and that made her an amusing villain. Even the way she shunned down Hibiki's attempt to reach her at the end was kind of cool. She's a girl who sticks to her guns.

She'd job a lot more if she had screentime, but even with the little she has she does it really well.

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She could have easily killed hundreds of thousands in a single incarnation if she thought it was convenient. There's too little information to make any reasonable estimate of her kill count.

>Jobs one time
>Lol she always loses
And this is how memes are born.

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They said "BUT WE WANT TO BE HUMANS!" though.

It's not about kill count, it's about reasons. Ver was fucking nuts, but when he got redeemed, no one was angry because it was fucking awesome and felt genuine.

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Nevermind the 70k, never mind the monster shit, building up characters for 7 episodes just to uneventfully kill them off is plain bad writing. I don't want to believe that Symphogear would fuck up so much during the final stretch of the final season.

So its okay to kill if you charismatic, funny or have a compelling motive?
Please, you edgefags are pathetic, you people have been seething for years at the fact Symphogear always humanized at least one villain per season.

>is plain bad writing
Here we go again

>they didn't want to be humans to make friends
Literally their whole schtick is "hurr we want human body because we want hope and tomorrow to shine for muh kazoku"
They are trying to sound sympathetic so hard that its hilarious

stop assuming they're dead then retards, especially the fucking cyborg

Keeping them alive is a bigger fuck up

does it even matter when Yea Forums is just going to lose instantly
at least /u/ will have Miku

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>So its okay to kill if you charismatic, funny or have a compelling motive?
If it makes for entertaining fiction, sure. Why not?

Not him but yes, or at least it's how it is in fiction.

Miku even scored in the last cup
If Nana gets into Yea Forums, she'll be in some useless position

For fuck suck, and where does that translate to wanting it so they can be happy and have friends?
Have you seen Elsa and Millaarc's story from before they were monsters?

>Elsa hails from Lozère, France. She was abused by near-relatives, who confined her and subjected her to physical and sexual abuse. She then came under possession of the Bavarian Illuminati as an experimental body.
>She originally hails from Styria, a location in south-eastern Austria. During a trip to Slovakia, Millaarc was kidnapped by a torture club and victimized. She was later sold to a remote branch of the Bavarian Illuminati, who used her in experiments to recreate a mythical vampire, undertaken in the organization's pursuit of eternal life.

They fucking know being a human doesn't mean living a good life. "Becoming a human" is more the sickness aspect of it, the constant need of blood to survive. It is not about regaining something they had lost even before they got spliced.

Telling your enemies "BUT WE WANT TO BE HUMAN" is asking them to pity you, meaning you think you deserve pity after the shit you pulled, aka hypocrisy deserving of a swift and bad ending, not a redemption

Noble Red are hypocrites that complain about their weakness, yet cut down those weaker than them without a second thought. They don't hesitate to crush those below them, and play the victim card when faced with those above them. They got a taste of their own medicine when they were swiftly slaughtered without a moments notice. They aren't bad villains, just not people should be forgiven so easily.

>fuck suck
Feed seed

Every character should serve some purpose, not only advancing the plot, but developing some theme. Noble Red's theme was the contrast between them wanting to become human and their inhumane actions. Just killing them off without addressing this contradiction makes no narrative sense.

>So its okay to kill if you charismatic, funny or have a compelling motive?
It made the story fun to follow.
It frustrating to watch literal retard and imcompetent fuck with shit motive as main villain.

This show has redeemed hypocrites before.
Why does that bad trait make you seethe above all else?

This, I just want it to be addressed, then you can do whatever you want with them. As it stands right now its a terrible plot and shouldn't be praised just because it was edgy.

>Noble Red's theme was the contrast between them wanting to become human and their inhumane actions
No it wasn't you dumb fuck. That's just what you were projecting onto the story. Noble Red is about the horrible shit you can do to protect the people you love.

Why are all the best girls in this show raped?

It's not about seething, it's about the narrative acknowledging how hypocritical and shitty those guys were. If the narrative doesn't acknowledge it (which can or cannot involve karmic retribution like they got recently), it'll be badly written as in "the writers want us to feel bad for cute girls but they're not aware they've written those girls unredeemable", which creates a disconnect between the watcher and the show.

NR being dead or shat on is the more fireproof way of being sure the writers are aware of what they've done.

Because they're lame.

Why exactly is killing characters abruptly after they've been "built up" for 7 episodes a bad thing again? Are you autistic? Can't you accept that sometimes characters can die abruptly after they've had their run in the story, just like in real life?
Anyway, it's useless to discuss this for now, we'll see next episode if they survived/transformed/were resurrected.

Nope, that was what noble red was telling themselves.
is right.

Rape makes you a badass with a tragic past and a hurt interior that makes you cool and endearing at the same time.

Stop trying to compare FIS with NR.They are nothing alike.

They didn't even die because of it, because at that moment they had forsaken their main objective to try to take down Fudo. Furthermore no character even addressed Nobel Red as hypocrite.
Finally, after redeeming all sorts of bad traits, why do you think hypocrisy is the big no-no of Symphogear? No other villain got this much of a quick and bloody death.

I doubt the blood is the core issue here. It's that they don't want to be treated as monsters and rejected by the others. The disconnect here is that to the viewer, their bodies is not why they are rejected but their actions.

>They are nothing alike.
Brainlet

>Can't you accept that sometimes characters can die abruptly after they've had their run in the story, just like in real life?
user, we're talking about Symphogear here. Trying to base your argument on 'realism' is not a good idea.

>It frustrating to watch literal retard and imcompetent fuck with shit motive as main villain
With enough level of awareness it could make entertaining watch.

That's what it's painted as but it's clearly about the human vs monster aspect of their actions, as directly paralleled with Fudo's talk about needing a monster to protect Japan

No, Finé wasn't redeemed, neither was Ver, nor was Carol.

>Noble Red is about the horrible shit you can do to protect the people you love.
However you put it, the gap between what they want and what they do remains.

>The disconnect here is that to the viewer, their bodies is not why they are rejected but their actions.
Which is something I wish the show had addressed, which I guess it can do if Vanessa survives, but it cannot do if the whole of NR is dead.

>they had forsaken their main objective
They died trying to get control of the power of God, which was their main objective from the start. You think they would kill Fudou and just discard the god power without trying to become human again?

I seriously doubt it's the last we'll see of them

I for once like how sudden and brutal their deaths were. It gives their non-interesting characters a posthumous element of tragedy. They were indeed weak and worthless to the end. Smacked like flies in an instant. I hope they don't resurrect that way they'll at least keep something memorable about them.

>They didn't even die because of it
They don't have to die precisely because of it. Getting punished while doing something else is still part of the irony/retribution.

>Furthermore no character even addressed Nobel Red as hypocrite.
That's the issue. That's why everyone is happy Miku beamed them. It might indicate the writers understand they've written monsters.

>after redeeming all sorts of bad traits, why do you think hypocrisy is the big no-no of Symphogear
Previous villains never felt like the writers didn't measure how bad they were. Even in Fine's case, you could argue Bikki wanted to reform her because she'd revive either way, and also they "knew" her before, making this harder.

It's not hypocrisy being bad, it's the writers knowing what they're doing. We don't want NR's blood because we hate them, we want NR's blood because otherwise the writers might embarrass themselves by not addressing episode 2.

This. Carol flat out rejected redemption.

Fine was humanized in S1, had a lot of monologues about her feelings, and is redeemed in G.
Ver was redeemed in GX
Carol was humanized by her flashbacks, makes a noble sacrifice in GX to save Elf9 and received full redemption fanservice this season, dolls included. Remember that this is how they went out in GX.
I won't buy that all the humanization of Noble Red was just building up to this shitty plot.

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Yes, you can look at any thing from a bunch of different perspectives, but the question was what theme their characters were made to develop, and it's painfully obvious that's their love for each other causing them to become monsters not just in flesh but at heart.

Monster versions minibosses could be cool too.

Make it some sort of ironic tragedy by having them lose more free will and become actual monsters before they get put down. Maybe let them realize what they did at this moment.

Fine will be redeem when we will be told that Chris liked the abuse,

>That's why everyone is happy Miku beamed them
>We
>we
Speak for yourself

>Ver
>not redeemed

Lots of people at least.

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Fine doesn't need to be redeemed.

Not that user.
But yes, I know you like it, which is why I call you an edgefag.
Don't you people have like, Madoka and all of its clones for smackering their cardboard characters like flies? What I love the most about Symphogear is that it had never done that to any main or secondary character.

>Fudo's talk about needing a monster to protect Japan
They don't even use the same words. Fudou says oni when talking about himself and he refers to NR as bakemono. Demon and freaks respectively would be better translations.

He also speaks for me. I cheered when that happened.

Who is next?

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> Can't you accept that sometimes characters can die abruptly after they've had their run in the story, just like in real life?

Hey, let's write a SoL story, except in episode 7, a bomb goes off at the mall while they're preparing for their fun camping trip and kills them all! BOOM! The end!

Wait, why are viewers complaining? This is how things happen in the real world! Fuck things like storytelling! Life doesn't always make for a great story! Telling stories is for babies! The viewers need to grow the fuck up and accept it!

Can't you at least accept that there are also ways to address the hypocrisy of Noble Red even if they survive? I really don't want people whining once they come back.

Inshallah it will be this thread.

>there are also ways to address the hypocrisy of Noble Red even if they survive
That's also true. Death is just the more sure way to do it, but even if they come back, I trust they don't forget about the shit they've done.

It's because Noble Red were poorly written to fill as main or even secondary characters which is rare for Symphogear cuase most characters are entertaining in a way.

>Can't you accept that sometimes characters can die abruptly after they've had their run in the story, just like in real life?
It was shit in tiger mask, it was shit in oniisama e..., it was shit here. It's always shit.

Yes and? What's the problem with that plot?
Plenty of series start out like a classic plot but suddenly branch out into another plot.

Innaho Alhoub, Tabib Ver.

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This whole argument seems kind of pointless. Does anybody even think NR's arc is over and their not going to be further developed? It seems to me like some people are picking arguments against ghosts and getting replies just on account of the sheer aggressiveness of their tone.

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>NRfags seething this hard
Oh my.

the ninja XDU event has a new tsubasa song in it.

Isn't the discussion whether NR will come back or not?

I'll add that Noble Red are just a detail of the story at this point, it's not like killing them abruptly will completely change the plot like you're insinuating here.

>the writers might embarrass themselves by not addressing episode 2
What happened in ep.2 was just a symptom of NR losing their way in pursuit of human bodies. This is what the writers should address.

>muh edge
Killing characters off for thematic purposes isn't edgy.

Yes? That's been speculated tons of times. It's all ghosts because the next episode isn't fucking out yet.

More like they can't erase the gravity of what happened there.

No, the discussion is, as always, "you wrong, me right!"

To be fair, Madoka did something similar, and it was a huge success.

The discussion is a mess, that's what it is.

XDU is the only hope NRfags have to see them again.

Keep using more buzzwords so I can recognize you more easily and ignore you next time you come to shitpost.

You're all retarded. Shut the fuck up and talk about Bikki's dikki instead.

Just like NR dismembered corpses scattered across the floor. Who's gonna be responsible to clean that up?

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I'd rather talk about Tsubasa's sword

What even is there left for NR to be explored to make their sudden deaths seem like a waste?

>This is what edgefags look like IRL

If only gore inspector-san were here.

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No, my mustache is much better.

I call dibs on Millaarc's thighs.

This scene is foreshadowing, user celebrates the death of cute girls before getting BTFO.
Its exactly what is happening here, Kaneko will deliver the redemption of all redemptions.

Why does she sit like that?

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I'd rather talk about Bikki's bikkies.

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Are you saying Kaneko is going to chop my head off?

Her slav girlfriend's influence

Yes.

We still don't know if Elsa would feel pleasure if I put my finger in her second asshole.

Hibiki.

Maybe her butt hurts.

H-he's in Japan I'm safe

Are you really?

What if I told you he will get Nana to do it?

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to look cute!

cute!

It isn't.

Amalgam literally was used as a last-moment deus-ex-machina to shield all the gears from the Daedalus Labyrinth going nuclear on them and easily allowed Hibiki to lay into NR afterwards.

What it could be doing is actively switching between defense and offense. Actively re-routing power, if you will. But otherwise it's a stable improvement across the board.

>ywn have your head chopped off by Nana

Those are just invincibility frames. They used that to block Nephilim's attack in G too.

From what?

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Maria's fists.

That's a good comparison, note how the shield disappears after a little while (except for the group activation because everyone was too dumb being focused on looking at it and watching Bikki wreck the rejects up while singing with the eyebrows ghost).

she had a fuckhuge sword cut near her vital organs several times like one 24h earlier.

I'm surprised she's not in the hospital desu

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Nothing, but robot has info on silver arm and probably the kidnapping logs for the FIS children. It'll be a bargaining chip when the surviving red shows up on the sub doorstep covered in blood

>posthumous element of tragedy
Tragedy at least implies a minimum of human dignity. Getting offed like that after jobbing and being played so many times puts it in the realm of comedy.

Comedy and tragedy are the same events with different presentation.

Vanessa will sing and reassemble her faust robe body next episode.
Lyrics already leaked.

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I would expect something Wild Arms, not Dragon Quest.

>Noble Red is about the horrible shit you can do to protect the people you love.

You're both right. Noble Red's theme is the irony of losing their humanity while standing by one another as they try to regain their (literal) humanity.

The only way any kind of redemption would be feasible for them, is a moral BSOD where they finally go through some self-reflection and figure out how badly they screwed the pooch. Followed by a long, _long_ transitional period of making amends and fixing their karmic bank balance.

...

Or by going the quick way and self-sacrificing to save the main cast and the world at large from impending doom.

...

Yeah; probably the latter.

Mila and Vanessa should die
Elsa could make it because she was against the worst shit but she stil lhas to defend herself and her famouri so yanno

You should die.

Else is just as much of an ass as of the rest of them. She's just polite so you forgive her.

Source on those backstories? What the fucking shit.

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keywords

In times of distress, always check the keywords.

>When activated, the energy that the gears are comprised off is dismantled and reassembled as a golden shinning "coccoon." In this first stage it functions as a barrier field around their bodies which is much more powerful than their usual defenses. Then, (because maintaining the cocoon consumes extreme amounts of energy) for the second stage it is once again dismantled and reassembled as an "Image" (french pronunciation), a high power output armed gear.

It goes on to say that the cocoon stage has overwhelming defense, but limited offensive capabilities, while the image phase is the exact opposite.

tl;dr: Amalgam is activated by default in "barrier mode" which has high DEF, but very low ATK and is extremely energy inefficient. Then you can convert the energy from the barrier into a golden armed gear which is much more powerful than your usual attacks but leaves you relatively unprotected.

Well fuck, I liked Elsa but I hate used goods.

>but it cannot do if the whole of NR is dead.

What makes you think Elsa and Millaarc bought the farm?

In folk tales werewolves have super-powered bodily regeneration, capable of mending chopped off limbs. And vampires can in many canons survive being beheaded, quartered, etc. only requiring exposure to the light of the moon to revive.

Elsa will die for real to make the other two look more sympathetic.

Madoka foreshadowed the shit out of all its twists.

The only real twist in XV regarding NR would be if they died and no one ever brought them up again.

>Vanessa next episode

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>Has to fight monster Millaarc and Elsa
>WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR

>recycling the trannies' trick
wtf I hate NR now

Why are you spacing like that?

They're already dead Jim

I know that they are building towards Noble Red getting their human bodies back, but the dolls actually deserve it as they had their redemption episode.

It could work if Vanessa takes down a monster version of the other two while being aided by the ghost version of the other two.

Didn't mean to reply.

Emphasis on reading pauses (...)
No; it has nothing to do with you-know-what spacing.
(Why am I even explaining this?)

Because you're retarded.

This. Comedy comes from misery.

That user is shit posting. Her bio has nothing about sexual abuse.

go home

Giving this some more thought:
what if natural vampire/werewolf regeneration is what's going to tip them over into becoming full on monsters? And what if the regular blood infusions turn out not to have had the effect of keeping them alive; but keeping them in their demi-human state?

Elsa could make it because Maria wants to buy a pet for the gaybies.

Kirika wouldn't know how to feed a dog.

If Fine comes back somehow, do you want her to manifest as Shirabe?

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No.

I want her to come back as an 6 months year old baby who throws an alche-blast that saves the day before winking right into the camera and shitting her diaper.

Well, in many stories, a person has to die to complete the transformation from Human to Vampire or werewolf. (aka die as human, rebirth as monster)

I want Fine to have a good laugh at Hibiki.

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It'll happen when the Gears are all purged of sin and start using their parallel selves to recover from damage with their God X-Drive Amalgam in the final battle. Shirabe will be restored with a version that didn't get stabbed by Kirika.

My dog Elsa doesn't do anything, dess. She just lays there all day. She's so chill.
She just kinda lies there all day like a good girl, dess.
I put on the TV for her, but I have to prop her eyes open so she can see it.

You sure type like a you-know-what .

I bet you can't even hide in the explosion of your own blood you scrub

I hate NR as much as the next guy but it's pretty obvious that we will see more of them.

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Is Fine going to turn out to be future-past Hibiki after she goes full Homura?

Vanessa atleast is going to survive.
Fudou's dialogue last episode obviously was setting her up to spill the beans to SONG about a flaw in the SSJ/Faust-robe hybrid Shem-Ha is using, that will allow them to pull Miku's personality back to the front or even pull her out.

Yes and no. Both ways could be potentially fun and interesting, but given that Shirabe has to die for that to happen, I think it's not very likely.

It would be cute if both Elfnein and Shirabe had hot evil headmates.

>the average user of Symphogear threads

The only thing rape makes you is used goods.

Sometimes it makes you a mother of an unwanted child too.

If Shirabe died Kirika would actually dess herself so I don't want that.

I do.

Where do you read these back stories? Is there anything similar for the AXZ characters?

Keywords and character bios. Every season has them.

Noble Red are dead. Deal with it.

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what the heck was the context for this pose

Kirika will probably kill herself eventually even if Jii is alive.

She is too dumb for that

She'll kill herself accidentally because she's so retarded.

Hug sword
kiss sword

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Cancer child trying to hide her existential dread.

Shoot sword.

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How did Tsubasa wearing the pink scarf with the silver pin make you feel?

Maria's gonna shoot her "gun" inside the sword.

Thank you Miku-Ha for just cutting them in two instead of pulverizing them. That way, people can still use their lower bodies for what they're meant to.

Melt down the sword into scrap.

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Fold scrap 1000 times and reforge into better sword.

Nobody said metanoia would be easy

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Maria needs to hurry up and let the sword impregnate her so the gaybies get a new sibling.

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>They're so big. They feel so soft. Why mine can't be like this?

Badass and conflicted used goods. Unless the genre is hentai in which case the victim is turned into a mindless cockslave instead.

Already redeemed and turned out to have never done anything wrong, she just made some tomatoes sweeter.

Tsubasa doesn't need those on herself when she can just have them whenever she wants.
Can't rest your face on your own boobs after all.

But they are hers.

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7/7 post

>S1 Ep13 ED is Gyakkō no Flügel sung by Tsubasa and Kanade
>All the other seasons had Nijiiro no Flügel sung by the six geahs+Kanade
Please for the final ED let us have a new no Flügel sung by the entire cast.

sasuga kono kuni no sakimori

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In her defense that looks way cooler than the normal challenge.

What's /u/ roster gonna be? will it include yagakimi memes?

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Oh yeah, these people existed.

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They did?

They look like sempais. Guess they already graduated.

>the dog was abused

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>We don't want NR's blood because we hate them, we want NR's blood because otherwise the writers might embarrass themselves by not addressing episode 2.
First off that's a lot of we asshole, secondly, the writes of Symphogear always embarrass themselves at the end even in S1 they didn't really address that Fine and Chris happened to the concert and they killed an actually person with a name. Third the concert in episode 2 didn't matter even slightly beyond brainwashing Tsubasa.

Nice swordbum. Maria is a lucky cow.

Remember when it was Anime-chan who saved the day? She stepped up before Miku did.

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Fine fucking died. Chris never showed herself at that concert so you can't really tell whether it was her or not.

Millaarc did it all onscreen. 70k.

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/u/ won't play in autumn and it already has Sayayaka.

NO

Just rewatched that episode. I didn't remember her losing her shit so much.

>70k.
No one with a name. She did nothing more narratively there than Mind Flay Tsubasa

You know just because people say a thousand is a statistic doesn't mean it doesn't actually count as a horrific tragedy.

Noble Red will be turned into real monsters by Shem-ha and used as minibosses on the moon, repent after a determined fisting, and then be restored to humanity physically as well as symbolically.

Not all writers are trash and only care about people with names. Narratively, Millaarc did something horrible.

Ver was condemned for a far lower killcount. He hadn't killed anyone with a name yet was already shown as unredeemable (except when he literally saved the world)

It absolutely doesn't it was all forgotten about in 2 episodes

YES

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>"Let me show you! This is how you wear Ame no Habakiri!"
Thank goodness he didn't try to pull out a Ragyo on Tsubasa.

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Not really, Tsubasa was still angry more than 2 episodes later. If it's forgotten and forgiven, then it'll be trash writing worth criticizing. Hopefully, it won't be.

Funny how we have this entire crew in XV with Noble Red, Shem-Ha's carrier and Chris.

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NR is causing so much shitposting I started hating them just for that.

>Ver was condemned
Gen specifically went out of his way to make sure that Ver couldn't be condemned as a villain.

Fine had only just kidnapped Chris around the time of the concert none of the blood from that day is one Chris's hands.

True. I hope they come back just so NRfags can finally be happy and just shut up about them.

NR is causing so much shitposting I started loving them just for that.

>Gen specifically went out of his way to make sure that Ver couldn't be condemned as a villain.
No, he wanted him to be jailed. Which he was.

What we don't want is NR getting a happy ending or a "they're cool guys after all because kazoku :)". Even jailing them would be ok.

Its on Fine's hand, however.

Gen went out of the way to make sure Ver didn't die a martyr you tit.

This.

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Yes and insofar as they all know, Fine is an immortal who is gonna keep coming back. Trying to reason with her is the only realistic way to stop her from starting this shit up again in a 100 years.

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This, they are amazing

True. I hope they come back just so NRhaters can finally be butthurt and constantly bitch about them.

Millaarc dies fighting for muh familia
Vanessa takes full responsibility of all charges is jailed, as in, forced to work for song
Dog doesn't get punished at all and becomes DMJii's pet, she dies of malnutrition in the OVAs

>forced to work for song
As a bridge bunny/bikki concubine.

>jailed, as in, forced to work for song
Nah. Getting a government job and a nice life isn't jail/punishment. Vanessa killed innocent citizens only to spite Gears. You don't come back from that.

Please no. It's okay to dislike them, they're shitty characters but dearly lord just let them be done with in whatever way the series does. Franchise is about to end and getting such attention is completely undeserved. Let NRfags have their moment, they'll move on.

She attempted to.

Just delete the karma files on system 32, you wouldn't jail an object, would you?

Weren't noise created by humans and Fine just let them spawn more frequently instead of every decade? Unless Fine used the cane on purpose during the concert it was just an accident.

All of the shitposting feels like it comes from the same people due to how similar every single fucking post about it looks, so I refuse to let that affect my opinions of the rejects.

Fine can summon noise without the cane she just can't control them and even if Fine did have Solomon's cane at the time it wouldn't have been active because again she had only just kidnapped Chris.

XV is just a cliffhanger for the movie

s.

>implying Vanessa won't die to let the other two live

Those fags are so busy shitposting about the jobbers yet again that nobody noticed there are only about 12 hours left until piccies

We only care about diccies.

That is where you are wrong. I want the piccies for the jobbers, I even have an alarm set up.

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Do you like your food laser cut?

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My headcanon is that the whole "Noise have appeared throughout history" this is because Fine uses them for various shenanigans every time she reincarnates, and the reason they were starting to get more common is because she had a solid workable plan to destroy the moon for the first time and had to do a bunch of shit to complete it, but I don't think that's ever been explicitly stated.

>implying Millaarc won't die to let the other two live
It's literally in her bio.

With Carol back they are pretty much the cast of Magipoka.

She'll try, but Elsa will beat her to it. Then Millaarc will have something to cry about for the rest of her life instead of getting a quick end.

okay...?

Dog girls aren't food, Chang.

>Noble Red weren't that weak. They got some wins and used alchemy and Fudo's influence to get an edge on the geahs.

Her bio only said that she would get her hands dirty and that's exactly what she did in episode 2.
Vanessa will die because she is like a mentor and her body is pretty much lost unlike the other two.

Fine admitted when she saved Shirabe that it was too late to be the good guy after everything she'd done. She saved her last descendant instead of eating her soul and passed away peacefully

Throwing Maria around doesn't count as a win. Everybody knows that.

What if Tsubapapa was actually cool

Everything depends on context. It would be a win for Tsubasa to throw her around in bed.

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Too bad we'll never know.

Is Tsubasa /fit/ enough to carry Maria out of gear? Maria easily seems like she could do the reverse but Tsubasa is so lithe I can't see her being physically strong.

Maria only weighs 95kg, Tsubasa should be able to handle that.

SWORD BRO DAD IS COOL!

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How was his brother and father so fucking buff, but he dies in 5 seconds to a single bullet?

Different stat pool.

Now you know why Fudou didn't let him procreate.

chichimori kakkoii

Before this archives, does anyone have that one relationship compatibility calculator website that someone was posting about last thread? I want to test something.

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calculator.net/love-calculator.html
here ya go.

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>calculator.net/love-calculator.html
Tsubasa and Kanade are 8%
it knows

Thank you very much.

Nice

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D-d-doushio!

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dess

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Well, that settles it.

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