Shingeki no Kyojin

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>C-Can we ban other s-shippers??
fuck off

Who will stop Eren Targaryen?

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So he is inevitable?

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>d-don't ban spammers!!11
neck yourself

Why was he so scared if he knew he would win?

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Mehmet.

Eren

so has eren known everything thats going to happen since he touched historias hand? am i getting this right? also when does eren use the power of the founding titan to go back in time and influence the past attack titans?

>He knew Erwin was a bigger threat than Armong and tricked manlet into making the wrong choice

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Yes, before he was balls deep in her

Well, he survived getting gabbed so there's no stopping him now.

No, no, he doesnt

>Eren talked Isayama into making him win

so the how does eren influence the past is it right now during his time in paths?

So did Eren take the Warhammer Titan because he knew he'd end up in the paths realm and would need to use it? If so, that's pretty impressive for a 3/10.

>no memories about erwin
Nah

>Eren is a 12/10 genius keikaku-master because he bullied his dad
Erenfags are ridiculous

>Isayama was originally going with an “everyone dies” ending
This has to be true

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Just kissing her makes him travel through time. Having sex with her would destroy the space time continuum

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Enter GODren

>Dykemir wasn’t in his memories either
What’s your fucking point?

So EH is dead right?

>Zeke
Cuck
>Reiner
Homosexual Jobber
>Yeagerists
BASED Bros
>Paradis
Made Great Again
>(((Marley)))
Dust In The Wind

ISAAAYAAAAMMMAAAAAAA

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>Hates her own race
>Look like Eren
Is Freida the perfect girl for Zeke?

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These two will be there to tell Annie what happened after everything's over.

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It will be back on plate, full force next month

Eren only ever controlled Grisha speedreader

Reminder Mikasa is irrelevant and didn't even get a story arc

If he saw the future 4 years ago, why wasn't he edgy just one year before?

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Or it would be the most spiritually enlightening experince eren ever had

I wonder if the female Titan secret power will play role in the ending

he totally got a boner when he heard her speak

Zeke > Eren

Not dead, but EHcoin definitely went down

He doesn’t influence the past, the most you can say he did is to convince grisha to go through with killing the Reiss family. However, depending on how you interpret time fuckery, grisha probably went through with killing the reiss family without erens influence anyway

Confirmed never alive to begin with.

Tell that to and faggot

Remember he wanted to look for other options. But it didn’t work out and things probably started to happen that he had foreseen

Secret power? Was that ever mentioned she had one?

We Haikyuu now

Called it

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>tfw someone breaks the NAP

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>this exact same monumentally triggered EM and/or YH blimp that has been shitting up threads and samefagging itself for at least 12 literal nonstop hours

W E W
E
W

Chad -- Eren -- Kruger -- Young Grisha -- Old Grisha -- Zeke -- Virgin

Pretty sure what she got in Trost counts as a story arc.

is the user still here that said they can get the text off this?

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The same message applies to them but i sent it to you because it's the only post i saw faggot

AMJCHL > Pieck + Reiner >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trash opinions >>>>>>>> Zeke >>>>>>>>>> actual psychopathic genocidal freak of nature >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more trash opinions >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Er*n

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I don't think there's much to do with partial hardening and calling mindless titans.

fuck you marleyan traitor hippie

but she did

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>noodle slurping sounds stop

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Oh sorry I forgot after Er*n >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his subhuman supporters

Guess we know who the real speedreader is then

>hundreds of chapters waiting for her to wake up
>just to get eaten by reiner

Just paint white squares over the text

Fucking cringe

Eren is the objective good guy. Seethe harder, child.

It's happening.

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Yikes!

>marleyan
>posts eldians first
imagine speedreading a short post

>Reminder Mikasa is irrelevant

We've known that for years though.

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>The rumbling, the terrified screams, the dead children.... It was beautiful Zeke

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he's bad in a greater good sense
but fuck greatergoodfags

This much rage can only be achieved by a father when he sees the life of his future child(with Historia) being threatened.

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>You have to read every post in a thread to be able to post!
unironically kill yourself

What can they do with Annie to cause the biggest shitstorm?

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This chapter was the ultimate brainlet filter this series needed. Not a single retard understands how the AT works. Some morons even think Eren can go as far back to manipulate anyone 2000 years ago.

Next chapter will be the ultimate fujo filter when the last panel confirms EH and most fujos and shitkasa retards commit suicide in unison. The AT ability creates some issues though, fujos will use it as an excuse to why Historia fell in love with Eren. They will go as far as to say Eren manipulated Ymir to sacrifice herself or brainwashed Historia's lesbian brain into fucking him. The outrage will be glorious.

Screencap this, motherfuckers.

Seething Erenfats

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>choosing pieck over anyone
anyone who likes pieck is a marleyan traitor scum

>EH next chapter!
KEK, you guys don't learn

Pretty good art making eren look like the AT there. Isayama has his moments

she dies without a word

See

>!
cringe

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>still no rumbling

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>the CGI rumbling, it was beautiful

>Eren isn't a slave to freedom, the AT is a slave to Eren
Jesus christ GODeyama does it again

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based

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Some of it is probably the translation. Last chapter retards we’re going apeshit over a ducking retarded translation, so I wouldn’t doubt something in this chapter is poorly done

WE ENEMIES OF HUMANITY NOW BOIS

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No. Why do people keep saying this? What did this chapter have to do with it?

This is humanity last hope to put down his maddog brother.

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I don't think EH will be in the next chapter. Isayama needs fujobucks and will hide Historia till the end.

There are two major scenes which define Eren's character.

When he kills the kidnappers and wraps the scarf around Mikasa
And the moment in the cave with Historia.

Notice how we revisited the kidnapper scene, but not the cave scene.
And Eren says this to Zeke, proving this is what shaped him into the person he is today.

That means the scene with Eren wrapping the scarf around Mikasa is the real Eren. I said before that if we revisited the scarf scene, EM would be confirmed. And it will.

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That hand did wonders for Eren.

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>can order the founder to do literally anything to stop Eren
>”AHHHH PLZ NO MORE SEXXXX”
absolute state of Zekek

See and kill yourself Erenfatty

...

>This chapter was the ultimate brainlet filter
every damn chapter I swear

They are watching Grisha’s memories you retard

Can we just appreciate what a shit day Eren’s had with being retarded assholes around him? It’s like he’s generating a retarded asshole field
> “Hey Mikasa, Armin, where is Ze-
> WHY YOU BEIN SUCH AN ASSHOLE BROOO?
> TEEHEEE U WUV ME EREH ROIGHT?
> “Don’t have time for this, just ans-“
> BWAAAAAAAA
> EREH U FUCKER
> Armong punches Eren and Eren beats him up
> “Okay, whatever, enjoy the lock-up ignorant slaves”
> “Hey kid, I heard Falco drank Zeke’s spinal fluid, help me out and we can sa-“
> AYAYAYAYAYAAA
> Pieck stabs a random guard
> “Oh fucking real-“
> EN’GARDE FIENDISH NAIVE!
> Porco and Reiner attack Eren and get pummeled
> “You guys are seriously too ea-“
> BOOM HEAD SHOT!
> “Ooh that fucking hur-“
> DUN WORRY BRUTHUR I SAVES YOU
> “Oh great, he’s he-“
> AHHHHHH BRUTHA SAVES ME
> “Shit, kay Zeke I’m com-“
>REEEEEEEEEEE
> “Aaaand everyone’s a titan, great, suppose I’ll-“
> EAT SHIT ASSHOLE
> Superloli’s bullet sends Eren to the path dimension
>”Wew, that was a close o-“
> BRUTHAAAAAA, LETS NEUTER EVERYONE NOW
> “No never, okay Ymir let’s-“
> LOL I’M INCHARGE OF THE PATHS NOW
> “Just Kill me alread-“
> NUH, DADDY’S A POOPOO HEAD AND I SHOWS YOU
> “See Zeke, dad wasn’t so ba-“
> BWAAAA OH FUCK OH GOD IM RETARDED, PLEASE RAPE MY FACE FRIEDA
> “Holy fuck, grow a pair you fucking pansy!”
> BWAAAA I WUV YOU ZEKE, KILL EREH, HE’S A MEANY POOPOO HEAD
> “Well now that that’s over, Zeke, I hope you can understand my point of view, and what’s more I-
> I WUV YOU DADDY, NEUTER EVERYBODY YMIR

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>fujos will use it as an excuse to why Historia fell in love with Eren
Japan or outside fujos sure as shit aren't into EH, don't make things up.

Congrats on missing the point of the chapter. This is the real Eren. He is who has always been, since before he had the attack titan, since the day he was born.
Also they're exploring Grisha's memories, not Eren's so how the fuck could they visit a scene that happened years after Grisha was dead

YOU HAVE 5 MINUTES TO EXPLAIN AT'S POWER
SO PEOPLE WILL STOP ASKING ABOUT IT

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Yup
Eren only cares about freedom

I wish that were me

DUBS CATCHES YMIR AND CAN ASK HER ANYTHING

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If you actually liked Mikasa instead of projecting onto her, you would want her to move on from her unhealthy obsession with Eren who hates her.

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He knows fragments.
I don't think he directly influences them, but his will for freedom does, in a way.

Done.

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She's never even mentioned again until the epilogue and it just says she went home and saw her dad and that's it. Not even shown.

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Cringe

Bring Annie back.

>Historia's rape, it was beautiful Nii-san...

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He's not wrong

Not a question

He sees the future sometimes, that's literally it.

Manipulating Grisha isn't Eren's power, he was only able to do that because he was in Paths.

Why are you up past your bedtime?

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Basically, you can send memories backward, but I believe it only works with the paths. Which means you need royal blood and the FT

Serious question, what fuck happened in the chapter that is supposed to debunk EH? The future memories and the reiss conspiration were the only new things we've got.

Or it is a new cope from the dumblrinas, in that case never mind

Noice

GIVE ME THE BEST DICK YOU CAN MAKE

Literally this. He is absolutely frantic about stopping Zeke's command from being carried out, which only makes sense if he has skin in the game. After all, he allegedly just wants to genocide stuff because RAGE or something.

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Based. Erenfatties seething.

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>Or it is a new cope from the dumblrinas
yes it's going to be the new cope, someone should append the list

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lmao, still sperging about that?

But seriously, she looks evil somehow in this flashback

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This sure as fuck better not end with Mikasa and Armin fighting Eren.

reminder that the wall titans are facing inwards, not outwards. Karl knew that if anyone wished to circumvent his will and try to destroy the world by waking up the wall titans, Eldia would deserve to be wiped out. As soon as they wake up, they'll finish the last order they were given: to rumble Paradis.

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BASED

What a fucking convoluted mess

>Muh "time travel" begins.
>Already opens a paradox in the first chapter.
LOL
Why authors still try this kind of stories? They always fail.

But what did he won?

It's funny to think that if Ymir Fritz is somehow reincarnated as that baby that she'd basically be aborting herself.

Prolly. Now go to sleep.

>E-EH will surely happen next chapter

So if Zeke actually won would Historia’s baby just die?

With all of the other titans, holders can only experiencing the memories of people who previously held the titan, and mostly only if they were related by blood. With the attack titan, one can perceive the memories of people who will hold the attack titan but do not yet, IE, memories from the future. To at least some degree, the memories someone with the attack titan receives form the future can be consciously decided on by the future attack titan shifter in question. Additionally, the memories sent by the future shifter can be something they themselves saw from the past like normal shifters do. It's not known if the ability to send memories backwards through time is limited to blood relation, but if not, it's entirely possible that Eren has influenced everyone who has ever held the attack titan, and that's why each holder has been in a constant state of uncompromising rebellion for thousands of years.

Always known the kidnappers scene is the most important because Eren's words from that scene are repeated several times like a mantra throughout the story

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Not really.

>paradox
Explain.

how does it open a paradox speed reader? Literally closed loops are the only consistent way of writing a time travel story.

Eren has been influencing the AT and it's holders since the King renounced war and created his vow. He basically became the will of the AT.
As Grisha states, "Everybody was led by these (Eren's) memories."

No, he doesn't need paths. Why do you think he was doing when he looked in the mirror saying "Fight, Fight"? He wasn't psyching himself up, he was using his power.

Are you actually retarded? Zeke's plan is ESTERILIZE, not KILL.

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>he was using his power.
Headcanon. He literally thanks Zeke for letting him onto the paths and into Grisha's memories, speedreader.

Who let the dogs out?

>trying to have a non-brainlet discussion with EMcucks
user... Don't waste your time

what's isayama's plan?

But if he was using his powers on his child self, does that count as psyching himself up?

It's just a joke, calm down.

Without spoilering me can someone explain to me how everything went from Killing Titans to Time Travel autism?

Based

That was in reference to being able to directly speak to his father, rather than just use the memory shit.

There are people who SERIOUSLY thinks that

will eren be reborn?

>gets out of the crystal in one of the last chapters
>Armin is there
>she thinks that she is going to be eaten
>Armin says that she is free to go
>they have a conversation that basically retreads what they already said about being a good person
>"Bertolt really loved you"
>"oh"
>she gets a panel of walking towards her father in the epilogue and that's it

He saw the future before so he knew his death was in a few seconds

CUNNY

Why do you keep repeating that word? That one time in his cell he was repeating Kruger's exact words and movements, there was no Reiss around.

>Serious question, what fuck happened in the chapter that is supposed to debunk EH?

Nothing. It actually strengthened the case a little bit for anyone with an IQ above room temperature.
See:

BETTER RUN, FUKKO

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I
fuck I guess it does

aliens WHEN

I kek'd hard

Did you neglect the balls when sculpting Zeke?

Will Mehmet marry you?

Titans and shifters are all connected through a dimension in which memories travelling through time is possible

>Why do you keep repeating that word?
Nani kore?

>annie's father
>being alive at the end of the manga

NEVER!

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>Not really
It kinda is. I'm not saying it's wrong tho.

Someone, somewhere out there, is still in denial that Eren's goal is omnicide.

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SASQUATCH

Is Eren the best shonen anti hero?

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because he can change the future and still die

All shifters can see memories of the previous holders
AT is more advanced (heh) and can see ahead. Kruger sees Grisha's last words to Eren, Grisha sees THAT scenery, etc.
Unrelated, Eren can nudge Grisha to kill Frieda's family because Zeke brings him there. He knew this since he saw Grisha reacting to invisible Zeke and Eren in the ceremony with Historia, hence all his plan to act coy with Zeke and be brought there.
It's possible Eren does something similar to Karl Cuck, imposing his memories on the AT to give them the will to fight and lead to his birth

>After destroying the island, they'll follow their next order to rumble the rest of the world

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So everyone just starred at Eren making out with Historia's hand for minutes while he went to the future?

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He's the best villain.

>and that's a good thing!

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He hasn't seen ALL the future, just fragments.
He knows some things will happen, but he may not know how will they happen.

>my dad saw my future self memories
>I saw my future self's memories through my dad

I fucking knew it that isayama somehow will ruin this arc

that's a good point, i never thought about that

Eh, I don't think it's messy.

He's objectively the hero though...

It was paths shit. It happened in an instant

>he can send memories backwards
headcannon
>he was using his power
headcannon that doesn't make sense.

His only power is to see memories some times. That's literally it. The advancing titan can also see people who are using the founding titan to see back in time. That requires the founder to be stalking the advancing giant for some reason so it's not very useful.

>Frieda's face
>Karl the cuck's mind
Is this a gay or straight ship?

Fuck you this single chapter enhanced the entire series ten fold

I could see Eren sparing Eldians in the various ghettos since they are his volk.

>headcannon
>headcannon
>Eren literally sees future memories in the first chapter of the manga
This isn't your average speed reader folks.

Man time travel is always so fucky. If eren and grisha are looking at grishas ‘memories’ then that means they already happened, but how could they already have happened if eren is there talking to grisha, unless eren talking to grisha is only symbolic or grisha was just seeing erens future memories of talking to grisha in the past. Fucking wacky shit

who's still in denial?

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Reminder that Eren listens to Morrissey

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Is Eren literally Hitler?

Both brothers are wrong but one look into Eren's mind and, both brothers plus Mikasa cuz she's ride or die, need to get wiped out by both Marley and Eldia.

He might also think that it goes how he wants, but it might actually not be like that.

I've said this all along, but we're going to get a lulouch situation. If Eren can become the big baddy, maybe the eldians can shrug off some of the hatred.

>Eren stared down the WHT because he already knew the scouts would save him
>Eren was chill the entire time because he knew he would make it out alive
>Eren laughed because he knew Sasha would die, and seeing her die was confirmation that his future was accurate
BASED.
FUCKING BASED.
HOLY FUCKING BASED.

How? It destroyed several themes it seemed to be building toward while introducing dumb keikaku "I FORESAW ALL OF THIS YEARS AGO" shonen bullshit.

It's really not fucky, it's only brainlets who have a hard time with temporal cognition.

And before you ask, yes I do watch richard and mortimer.

Many outside of Yea Forums.

SEX WITH GABI

>Can manipulate time
>Hand fetishist
Really makes you think

No, because Eren would never give up

How? The writing was so bad, it has neat ideas but very badly executed, I can't take anything seriously from it.

What music does the SnK cast listen to?
I bet Jean likes boomer rock

Eren did nothing wrong

kino ending

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>Reminder that Eren listens to Morrissey

God damn right he does.

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How many times has Eren had to activate Bites the Dust?

He foresaw it, but had to make it happen, and in doing so opened up new character arcs, developments and themes. Nothing was taken away, everything was added to. I mean, literally and factually speaking.
In this particular instance, your opinion is literally wrong.

I said he could see future memories you speed reader. He can't send future memories back though. Learn reading comprehension retard.

Eren laughing when told of sasha's death was him being unable to properly express his very obvious remorse

Why didn't he just do this?

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>mfw the reason Grisha was disappointed was because Eren didn't genocide anyone

Can't they just moonwalk?

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>He almost pissed his pants when Gabi jumped up with that rifle.
>He did piss his pants when Zeke ordered Ymir to proceed with operation incel.
That attack on Liberio was as far as he saw of memories that had context. After that, he's just assuming.

Speed reader get

The founder could probably tell them to turn around.

Maybe he can't? If he could, that could easily lead to some sort of fucked up memory short circuit.

Be my daughteru.

>it was at this moment Grisha realize his entire life was JUST from the start

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Young Eren didn't have the AT.

How much does Eren fantasize about Hisu’s hands

none of these diagrams make sense. The advancing giant only has the ability to see future memories as a passive effect. It's not something they can control.

It was already ruined in all those months we wasted with Gabi shit and AMJC doing literally nothing other than wonder what Eren was up to. Not to mention the obligatory "manlet is really stronk" chapter.

It was explicitly stated this fucking chapter that Eren selectively sent memories back in time to manipulate Grisha

>Eren allowing friends' death to happen to reach his goal
>can change the future to have reached that point anyway
What a fucking cuck. Just gave in to fate. Both brothers deserve an ass ramming by Jamal.

>After that, he's just assuming.
Presumably he can't see further than what is borne of his current action? No action means no cause and effect to spark a future event, right?

Deterministic future is bullshit, it makes Eren into a complete slave to his destiny since he knows that nothing he does can possibly change the final outcome.

Too many.

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she me the proof he can send memories back in time?

He's much worse.

You're taking what Grisha says at one point too literally and forgetting right after he says Eren is the one showing him shit.

>ruined anons starting to show up
Took em long enough

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jfc user

But that's literally wrong. He can change the final outcome at any moment if he wants to. He could, for example, just stop running.

The outcome he saw was the one he had desired long before he was aware of the possibility of seeing the future.

>explicitly stated this chapter
source?

>Historia
>the Attack Titan has shown me a vision of the future through Paths
>you will be the mother of my son
>you can't deny fate

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Nigger, if the future influences the past to get to that exact same future, then it opens the paradox of how it originaly that future was achieved when the influence from the future was not possible.
This is basic as fuck.

retard

He literally can't. You don't understand what deterministic future means.

THIS CHAPTER
FUCKING READ

That's with the founding titan powers allowing them to be paths ghost in the past

He reached some conclusion that changed his perspective after that. Either by watching events unfold and figuring out what those memories were showing (some of it wouldn't make sense without context), or by receiving more visions that made the future clearer. I think the former makes more sense.

Eren's plan is becoming a martyr and that's why Grisha told Zeke to stop him

No, I do understand it, and that's not what at play here.

Has any past king asked you to do inappropiate things with him?

I swear if Isayama didn't show us ZF in the next fake preview...

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This is what happens when your entire perception of time travel is based on 80s comedy movies. It's like watching a child struggle to speak english, it's almost adorable.

how did anime handle this?

Truly you are enlightened

>paradox
No it's not a paradox. It's literally the only model of time travel that doesn't contain a paradox you retard.

It's the closed time loop model and there exists no paradoxes.

Huzzah, a man of immense mental power. Alas we are besieged on all sides by laymen, stand strong my brother in neurons.

Then you know that Eren's decisions hold no real value, anything he does will ultimately lead to the future he saw

>when the influence from the future was not possible.
It always was. There aren't multiple time lines.

How will the normies react to all of this autistic Kino is what you should be asking

quote me exactly or post an image. I've read the chapter and have seen no such evidence.

eren didn't see any of that shit in the future. how would he know sasha would die?

No it wasn’t, that was grisha and sieg speculating. There is nothing proving that eren was doing anything purposefully

They do hold value, because his decisions "can" lead to the future he saw. He could change it at any time. You're assigning the idea that it's set in stone when it provably isn't.

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Turn the titans around

What is the Female Titan's power?

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This.
Eren is basically making himself a voluntary Dr. Manhattan from the Watchmen (movie ending).

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Irrelevance

Did you forget that we saw Eren doing what we now know to be temporal memory manipulating just a few chapters ago? When he was staring himself down in the mirror in jail?

I think it's high endurance, but it could be something paths-related

Getting written out

Semen bait

>(movie ending).
The graphic novel is different?

So Eren's time travel power only works when he comes in contact with a member of royal blood like Historia or Zeke? Why is this the case again?

is EH canon

Hes talking about Historia's ass from behind.

After he raped her of course...

literally calling titans you speed reader.

kiss me on the balls

Same principle, different fake enemy.
The movie's take is unironically better.

Make Connie into a shifter!

Literally booty call, also jewelry
>So Eren's time travel power only works when he comes in contact with a member of royal blood like Historia or Zeke?
No, it's just easier then
>Why is this the case again?
Royals are more well connected to the paths

>annie uses paths to see the future
>decides to seal herself in stone and stay the fuck out of it
Annie is literally the only sensible character in this series.

>EH IS DEAD
Is this just shitposting or do people unironically believe this? this chapter just confirmed that Eren is not influenced by anyone and his conservation with Falco was just him and not being influenced by anyone.
Eren immediately assumed the candidate was a girl, why would he assume it was a girl if it wasn't about romance? he literally saw himself in Falco who was to trying to protect the girl he loved from turning into a titan.
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So can someone explain to me how EH is dead?

>Coordinate can wake them up but not tell them to turn back
Sure thing retard

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please let the wall titans out and make them turn around and avoid every eldian born on paradis

Oh... that's kinda disappointing..

Being best girl.

Do you believe it now?

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>being this retarded

Second half of this post meant for

Did Rico die in the Zackley bombing?

>if there's no one to carry on, everyone else who died up to now will have died in vain
Eren telling Zeke to fuck off with his dumb "peaceful" genocide plan was painfully obvious all along. Eren fighting to honor the sacrifices Eldians made for the future generations is perfectly in-character.

Doesn't this help debunk the idea that Eren is fighting purely out of selfish interest (i.e. to protect only his own friends and family)? Seems like he might have the interest of all the Walldians in mind too.

filtered

>The movie's take is unironically better.
Oh no don't let the moore fans hear you. God forbid someone tell them their precious author is just a contrarian hack and that Watchmen is unironically a 6/10 graphic novel at best.

Kill all anons for me.

Wow thanks for confirming what I said

"No."

Why is no one talking about her eyes?

Remove Yeager.

How has NOBODY gotten dubs yet?

Eren looks like young Grish at the third panel from the bottom.

He CANNOT change the future. You aren't understanding what deterministic means.

What about them?

>He CANNOT change the future.
I think he can.

K now show me the part where a past AT holder saw eren in the mirror saying tatakae

...

Any grass on the playing field, babe?

Also this:

show proof of eren changing the future

her milkshake brings all the boys to the yard

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ZEKE NO

Show proof of Eren having a penis.

Nice

I've always been a believer.
>After destroying the human army, he proceeds to kill every human being on the planet. Then he returns to Loos Ptokai, marries Ermizhad, and knows peace, at least for a time. The story clearly implies that Erekosë was foredoomed by some higher power to commit genocide, that his only choice was whether he would exterminate the Eldren or the humans, and that once the choice was made he was helpless to stop himself from carrying it through. The nature of that higher power and its motivations remain, however, unclear. The book's ending with this inevitable genocide might be a major reason for its relative lack of popularity.

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Yeah, just like Grisha could have chosen to not give the titan to Eren if he didn't want the future he saw to become true.

Do Anniefags even read the manga or do they spend their whole time just masturbating to Lost Girls and making up fanfictions where Annie isn't stuck in a rock for 7 years?

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That’s not a question

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Show your "writing" then

Keep Coping EHfag

>based Ymir gets dubs without even trying

Repeating that shit doesn't make it true. You can just postulate that there's no paradox because it's a close cicle, the possibility to change your actions upon learning the future is still there. If Grisha didn't want Eren do fulfill his plan then he can kill him or just don't give him his titan, saying that he can't do that because everything has to happen how it happened is not an explanation, there's no explanation as to why he can't just do that either than "he just didn't"

Thank you. I guess I need to re-read and understand what is and how paths works.

>Isayama needs fujobucks

Why? Isn't he rich as fuck already? I bet he's wealthy enough to never have to work again.

based retaliation.

Show proof that he can't.
Like I said, you're assigning the idea that it's set in stone when it provably isn't.
Let's say he somehow stops Ymir moving and something happens.
He can literally choose to stop moving, and prevent that thing from happening and let Zeke's plan play out.

That's not even vaguely related to this topic. Grisha was being influenced by Eren, what you posit is that there's someone further in the future, influencing Eren.
Insofar as we know, Eren is where it ends.

The ‘future’ isn’t something that is going to happen, it has already happened

The diagram is convoluted, you faggots, not the idea that is trying to explain.

>the possibility to change your actions upon learning the future is still there

Not if the future is determined by you learning the future you dumbass.

Shut up, Not-Ymir.

Meh, fuck 'em. Dr. Manhattan seemingly going rogue is a million times better than fake interdimensional psychic tentacle monsters.
I absolutely fucking love Watchmen though, both the comic and movie (well, the director's cut anyway... theatrical cut is a mess).

>Criticizing something means you need to be good at it yourself
You fucking troglodyte.

>C-c-c-cope
Not an argument retard

This arc is shit

>dozens of chapters wasted on garbage gabi character
>Eren being a complete ass to all of his friends and brother
>Eren is now a manipulative genocidal maniac
>Chapters are filled with pointless flashback and time travel
>Time travel doesn't make sense because eren shouldn't be able to change the past if the past already happened before he could change it yada yada yada.

Why can't authors never end their mangas as great as they start? This is just terrible.

This, the memories have to come from somewhere

>show proof that he cant
The fact that he hasn't is proof that he cant

>gets dubs
>still loses because it wasn't a question

OH NO NO NO

*you can't just postulate

>the possibility to change your actions upon learning the future is still there.
No it's not.

YES

Totally disagree, it's getting better and better

2deep4u

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Filtered retards don't even know what a closed time loop is.

>ESL
He asked her to remove yeager.

See for more details.

are traps gay?

why would Ymir give the female titan a power strictly worse than the founding titan?

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Explain then

I want to compare her face with this baby to confirm the reincarnation theory. Although, the eyes probably won't help. We need to see her eyebrows but the bangs obstruct it.

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No, it's not. That's ridiculous.

FOR REAL
HOW HARD IS IT TO GET
HOW CAN THEY NOT UNDERSTAND A CONCEPT THAT WAS IN FUCKING HARRY POTTER

>"can ask her anything" =/= "can ask for anything"

It needed to be a question and it was not. GG.

that's clearly Zeke

Is EH going to be canon?

She didn't. The titan powers weren't "decided" on by anyone, it was just randomly divided into nine unequal parts.

And who says that's the case? That doesn't make any sense and it's just an arbitrary rule you're putting in there because it's convenient. There are definitive ways Grisha could have avoided that future from happening once he learned about it, literally your only excuse is "he just didn't because that's bound to happen" which doesn't have any logical reopening behind it being the case other than you forcing that rule because it's the only way to avoid a paradox

Its the only coherent version of time travel. Defined as:
"A chain of events in which someone or something time travels to the past as a means to fulfill their role in the history exactly as it already happened, thus implying impossibility to change the past."

That's Grisha and Eren.

Baby Zeke doesn't look like that.

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why does the founding titan have tits?

According to your headcanon

I want to wreck this fucking loser baby

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Will the manga have a well written ending?

If your saying that history is repeating itself and historia will become the first ymir. Then that's stupid. Why would eren know this then purposely set eldians down a path of repeat hell

why does the attack titan even exist

seems like it only exist to fuck eveything up

Am I gay?

Failsafe

Don't rape babies, Mikasa

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Reminder that grisha goes full genocidal with the rumbling when he learn about Carla death. This guy just need to be reminded

>There are definitive ways Grisha could have avoided that future from happening once he learned about it,
Did he learn about it? Where other ways presented? No, so it happened what was bound to happen.

That doesn’t explain how the first iteration of the loop happened unless you go off on some stupid time is not linear bs.

The writing of the manga says thats the case. Eren hasn't once changed the future by effecting the past. The fact that Grisha literally arguing with Eren lead to the exact same outcome. All of this points towards a closed time loop.

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Ymir and FT are the alpha
Eren and AT are the omega

The SHINGEKI NO KYOJIN is Ymir's desire to be FREE

Delicious titan milkers

According to a deterministic time theory that the story seems to follow.

the past is closed, the future is not

So just let me see if i get this straight, when Eren kissed Historia's hand he saw the future, which meant every past holder of the attack titan could also see the future, but Eren somehow gained the ability to control which memories were seen by previous holders of the attack titan and he used that to manipulate his father(by showing him the scene of the titans eating Eren's mom?) into killing the royal family thus setting things in motion to achieve the future he saw when he kissed Historia's hand?

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The attack titan is confusing and I need a proper translation immediately.

There is no "first timeline." There isn't multiple timelines in the snk universe. It's one time loop and time isn't linear in the snk universe which is explicitly stated because the paths dimension is described as being timeless.

The first founder had tits too

History is not repeating, but the titan time may be inside a loop and Eren wants to break free.

The devil deceived Ymir and trapped her in PATHS realm for eternity. Attack titan is embodiment of her desire to be free.

yikes

just shut up retard.

Now here is a riddle to guess if you can
Sing the walls of Shinganshina
Who is the master and who is the slave?

The attack titan is the devil

The Advancing Titan advances through time at the speed of regular time in order to ensure the memories it sent back in time.

absence of evidence is evidence of absence my friends who failed basic logic classes.

how big did her tits grow?

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Isayama loves his memes

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How does the time travel happen if it is necessary to provoke events leading to the time travel?

> If Eren can become the big baddy, maybe the eldians can shrug off some of the hatred.

Eh, that seems way too optimistic. Look at all the faggots who were posting ZEKE WAS RIGHT after this chapter, as though all Eldians deserved to be neutered because of something one of them did. If his actions were publicized, Eren's very existence would be used to justify racial hatred against Eldians. "Another Eren could be born at any time, and we can't take that chance".

>time travel and gabi are important parts of the story and don't ruin it anyway

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Yeah. He only shows certain in order to fool grisha into killing the Reiss family. He also hided some memories (Carla death) in order for grisha to follow the mission. If grisha knew about Carla death beforehand, he would have died due to not having any will power to fight. Basically, eren just created a scenario that will make grisha transfer the titan power to him which lead to him being in path right now

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There's never enough with money user

Yeah that’s what I said. But, it’s still a paradox in how we perceive it because there is no way for eren to go back to influence grisha without him already doing it. It’s incomprehensible in our reality without going off on time is not linear bs

He could have just killed Eren. 100% chance the future he saw wouldn't have happened. According to your theory had he tried to shoot him or cut him down the gun would have failed and the blade broken because some universal entity is there to make sure the future doesn't change. Or somehow he wouldn't have done it even tho he wanted to avoid that future from happening. Makes no sense whatsoever

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If it was closed then why is Eren freaking out about Zeke commanding Ymir?

Time travel isn't AT power it's just that a future holder of the AT could get into paths to cause all this

>EMcuck

Even fucking dragon ball did time travel much better than this shit.

Can a man inherit the female titan?

Is this still relevant?

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I literally hate you.

It's not the Devil. It's a demon.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace's_demon

because the events leading to the time travel are provoked?

Because if time travel exists at any point in time it must also exist in every point in time

If Grisha wants Zeke to stop Eren, why did he go along Eren's plan in the first place?

Because PATHS is not time travel per se, but a pocket dimension outside of time that influences all titan history.

Dragonball's time travel is just easier to understand because it has multiple timelines, this does not.

Gabi saved the series

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>its incomprehensible
No it's completely comprehensible. It's literally just determinism applied to time travel

Maybe that is his original plan (to stop eren),but learning about Carla death causes him to hate the outside world and ultimately want it destruction. (Basically muh revenge speech grisha said to eren while injecting him with the titan serum)

>shipping cancer poster

you're a fucking idiot and should try reading slower

Wait, so who was phone?

The problem is that if he wasn't placing his personal interests unreasonably higher than Walldia's in general, many more casualties could have been avoided.
But now thousands of people are going to die just because he refused to turn Historia into a Titan.

Even if that's the case you have to explain what is enforcing that closed time loop since just saying that it enforces itself via some magic is not an explanation, especially when there are sure fire ways to change that future by just killing one person and you are not able to explain why someone who wants to change it doesn't do it, other than "the universe won't let him" which is on the same level if not even worse than the paradox itself

It's Terminator Time Travel, why did Endgame act like it was special for using it?

Because Eren doesn't have complete vision of the future.

Yes

What the fuck did I do to you?

based

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does hisu wash her angus?

they're in the middle ages tech wise, so that means no toilet paper

Provoked by the time travel which can't happen if the first time travel never happened.
How does it begin? The time loop bullshit has to start somewhere, just admit that it's impossible to explain without bullshit.

Type like an ESL on roids.

Nice meme reply, dumbass

EH is literally dead now

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>strawpoll.me/18593477
Where is the mummy Pieck crushes Eren with Cart Titan thighs option?

I am literally a smooth brained ape and i do not understand what's going on and it's pissing me off

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>"what is enforcing it"
God? Random chance? determined equilibrium positions?

Who cares. How the determined time loop got the way it is as meaningless as asking how how future was determined.

That's fucking retarded. Even endgame did time travel much better than that

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does Isayama eat his old nails for power?

Just as dead as EA

literally just read slower. also, there are often times someone may start thinking of something else while reading a line, and then forget that line since they aren't giving it full attention. make sure you don't do that either.

But if he cannot change it then he can just don't move a finger and everything will fall into place regardless

Talentless fat faggot kill yourself

Endgame fucked up their own rules though

That would make much more sense if it has multiple timelines but it doesn't.
So it's just pure bullshit inventing rules such as (every points of time exist at the same time)

>Implying I'm the user you were talking to
Keep on ramping up your 'tism.

>He could have just killed Eren.
Did he? No he didn't. He transfered his power like he was supposed to because there was no other path to follow.

If you somehow went to your past, all the things you do there would have led your future you to travel to your past.

>Gabi was doing the right thing when she blew Erens head off
Apologize

>first time travel
There is no first time travel. It's like asking how long has "everything" existed before the big bang. There is no beginning.

why is everything time travel. what started the time travel craze.?

You fucking retards. Yes Grisha was against Eren at first and told Zeke to stop him, but then Eren convinced Grisha to let him eat him. How he convinced him we dont know but Eren was literally about to show Zeke the memory but the cuck pulled out.

>Closed time loop
The closed time loop it's just an excuse that if anything corroborates the paradox, "it was always going to happen" is not an argument, that's not how time works because for a future to happen, a past must happen before, that means that for the "closed time loop" to happen in the first place an original line without the future influence must happen, and then you can haver your closed loop that rewrites the part you want and loops it.
Also
>closed
We don't know that, I think is closed to but they do treat it as something that can be changed, and Eren was panicking at the end, I don't know if because that wasn't supposed to happen, or because he didn't saw this exactly moment.

I don't understand the last few pages. How come Eren is surprised that Zeke just tells Ymir to do the thing he was going to tell her in the first place? I mean, if he's THAT surprised in those frames, what exactly was his plan? Why did he assume Zeke would suddenly not do that, even though he was planning to do that before this whole memory sequence?

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How's bullying? Still bottling it up inside? :(

Kek

It all started when Eren made his very first appearance

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I know, still better than the mess from AOT.
A another big Shonen managed to do time travel very well in a ongoing arc, won't say the name to not spoil but isayama should have take example from it

I didn't mean to imply he valued them equally. I agree that he's prioritizing Historia and his own desires over other Walldians. I've just seen posts claiming Eren doesn't care about Eldia at all, which seems unlikely to me.

>multiple timelines
No that would make way less sense. Multiple time lines is retarded and every story that has it (with the partial exception of steins gate) is garbage. Even though steins gate did it perfectly it was still retarded and made no sense.

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yes

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Well there's a confusing post if ever I've seen one.

>multiple timelines
There's no need for them?

It's really quite simple. The Attack Titan can see the future ok? Ok, but the gimmick is that Eren gained the ability to manipulate which memories Attack Titans could see in the past after he kissed Historia's hand, therefore AFTER he kissed her hand he manipulated the previous holders so that events would unfold in such a way that the manga would get to where we are. It's a closed time loop, just like Harry Potter, the only confusing thing is that Eren himself isn't time traveling, he is basically showing videos of his present and his future to the past holders, so imagine it as him sending vhs tapes from the future to the past to ensure the future happens.
The twist will be that Eren right now is being manipulated by futurer Eren.

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>that's not how time works
1. Proof?
2. Proof in universe?
>they treat it as something that can be changed
>muh Eren panicking
Eren is not omniscient.

ALL
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>all these retards who think AT can see the future/time travel

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Yeah sure it’s comprehensible when you make shit up

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You people really need to start thinking in 4 dimensions.

It's not like he said he saw the future or anything.

>eren gained the ability to manipulate after he kissed historias hand
wrong faggot headcannon

He can only see the future with the AT abilities. He can't send them back and he can't even choose what future memories to receive.

Got a better answer?

>pics that didn’t age well

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Who the fuck are those?

it was stated that the only reason why Eren could talk to his dad was because Zeke showed him that path to the past.

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What was before the big bang and how long did it last?

Ara Ara dispensers?

You really need to read slower, unless you are implying that he was lying to Zeke and that Zeke got the wrong idea.

Not as much as me.

>What was before the big bang and how long did it last?
Nothing and no time.

Show me where in the chapter with an image, quote or tweet where Eren said he could send memories to the past with the advancing giants power.

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But then that's a paradox free system simply because you decide that paradoxes cannot exist. That's not any better, the how is the whole point otherwise you're just saying that you don't know shit and have no idea how it works but you're simply deciding it works that way to avoid having to come up with a convincing explanation

So your big brain explanation is he can't because he didn't. Pure genius.
>all the things you do there
No, all the things include killing Eren or my self in the past but you're just assuming that if I shoot him in the face he'll find a way to survive because magic. Dumber than the paradox

How can he change the past in the future if the past already happened? This shit is retarded. It would make more sense if he could look into the future and then change the future because of that. Instead he's changing the past while only being able to see glimpses into the future.

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>nothing and no time
These are "incomprehensible" things. I guess they aint real.

what are you waiting for then?

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>I guess they aint real
Well, you're not wrong, since the Universe didnt exist before then.

It doesn't have any more of a paradox then our universe does.

So we need another flashback sequence of Eren's memories right?
I guess touching ymir will trigger this?

Not OP, but it really doesn't look like a loop to me
To go with this, Grisha "muh chillun"'d because of what he saw Eren was going to do through paths. Why the Attack Titan activated that way, fuck if I know, but he no longer saw the children worth sacrificing due to Eren's plans. Eren knew this so his only option was to again influence Grisha through paths. If that wasn't the case and we were in a loop, he wouldn't have bothered to say anything to Grisha in that scene. When Eren has to actively use paths and the AT ability, I really don't see how you can call it a loop.

This is further reinforced when Zeke remarks on Eren's "disappointment" with Grisha's actions. Of course this refers to when Grisha hesitates over whether to kill the Reiss family. So previously when he and Zeke are recounting the event, Eren had already seen the changed encounter between Grisha and Frieda.

Is anything even real here? What if it's all an illusion created by Eren

>Laplace's demon

That's a really interesting article. Not that guy, but thanks.

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Eren doesn't say it, Zeke does. Of course Zeke could be wrong. Eren does say that it was thanks to Zeke bringing him to the Path realm, but Grisha just says that it's an innate ability of the Attack Titan.

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>Historia
>the Attack Titan has shown me a vision of the future through Paths
>you have to fuck this farmer
>yes, that specific one
>trust me it'll work out for the both of us
>you can't deny fate

ALRIGHT, YOU WANNA KNOW FINE?! I ADMIT IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE ATTACK TITAN WORKS!! HE SEES AHEAD TIME BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?! IF YOU SEE AHEAD OF TIME THEN SHOULDN'T YOU BE ABLE TO INFLUENCE IT?! WHAT DOES THAT MEAN- WHAT DOES HE MEAN HE SEES THE FUTURE?! HE SEES AHEAD OF TIME BUT THE SAME SHIT STILL HAPPENS IN IT!! WHY DON'T THEY DO SOMETHING WHEN THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN?! IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE YOU CAN'T SEE AHEAD OF TIME! YOU CAN'T SEE AHEAD OF TIME! FINE! YOU CAN LOOK BACK IN TIME AND YOU CAN STOP TIME, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE AHEAD TIME!! THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE! IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!! YOU DON'T LIKE THE FUTURE, WHY ARE YOU NOT DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT?!! I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW SOMEONE TELL ME! SOMEONE TELL ME HOW THE ATTACK TITAN WORKS! I NEED TO KNOW! I NEED TO KNOW HOW THE ATTACK TITAN WORKS, PLEASE!!! PLEASE, JUST TELL ME!! I NEED TO KNOW! SOMEONE EXPLAIN IT! ITS CONFUSING I DON'T KNOW, HOW DOES THE ATTACK TITAN WORK?!?! HOW DOES IT WORK?! HOW DOES THE ATTACK TITAN WORK PLEASE!! PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME I NEED TO KNOW HOW THE ATTACK TITAN WORKS!!!!

>30 days until next chapter
>it will probably shift back to AMJC + Gabo shit

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No one knows and it depends on your religious views to give a theory as an answer to that stupid question. Stupid example but go off king

>How can he change the past in the future if the past already happened?
What kind of question is that? It's time travel, that's how, you go to the past to change the future.

>So your big brain explanation is he can't because he didn't
Well, yeah.
You can't be unborn because you have been born already.
Even if you somehow had the ability to influence your past it's because you were supposed to influence it in the first place, so you, technically, wouldn't "be able" to change your present.
>I shoot him in the face he'll find a way to survive
Your gun wouldn't fire/he would be able to scape/survive etc, basically you wouldn't be able to kill him because he is not dead in the present.

that would be the ultimate fuck you from isayama. he probably isn't going back to real world from anyone's pov near eren. if he switches pov im positive it would be the manlet and hange before AMJC

It says in the chapter you can see memories from future AT holders. A lot different than being able to just straight up see the future. Certainly can't fucking time travel. Memories can "time travel" forward or backward between AT users but this doesn't seem to be something they can do at will unless connected to the founder. People seem to think Eren is fully clairvoyant after kissing Historia's hand and that he can manipulate the past without the founder.

>Implying that isn't what people want

Based Gabi show those Devils whose boss.

>How can he change the past in the future if the past already happened?
He's not, it already happened and he makes sure it happens. It's like that one Futurama movie where Fry is stuck in the past and is taking care of that narwhal and all those events are set in motion.

well, that's because, as far as the study goes, time (presumably) doesn't exist before big bang.

Are you implying that time here appears in a loop of 2000 years right away and people here have no free will and their actions are all predetermined?

Yeah it was zeke's conjecture that has caused all of this confusion. So it's not confirmed and there's no evidence that it's possible.

Even with Eren directly interfering with grisha the events played out exactly the same.

Doesn't matter AA confirmed.

Back in 2009, the time travel craze was just starting. If he planned it from the beginning, Isayama was actually ahead of the curve. It only feels trite because he took years to get to the reveal.

next chapter is a ymir chapter and we will learn about the devil himself.

The "people" just want to see manlet beyblade everyone's problems away

Give a proper answer or fuck off, mongoloid

But we've been reading about the devil for 121 chapters

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>tfw we are in a closed loop and ymir is Eren's child with Historia

>free will
oh god you opened another thread of tangents. "Free will" is an incoherent concept. It neither doesn't exist nor does it exist.

It's like saying "do these people have bling blomg ching long." It's complete gibberish. Free will is a meta concept and meta concepts can even be incoherent. There's a lot of these in human cultures. youtube.com/watch?v=joanVUoXY0s

It repeats every 2000 years
they will have a kid in the highschool AU too

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take your same answer and apply it to the origin of the time loop retard.

Exactly. It's not straight up time travel. It's manipulating memories past and maybe future. Conditions had to be fulfilled. AT holder just can't send and receive memories at will. Even if they could that isn't being able to time travel or see the future. It has things in common with that, but it's not so straight forward or OP as some are making it out to be.

No problem!

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>So it's not confirmed
Perhaps not, but it's what we have right now. Everything else is just headcanon.
>Even with Eren directly interfering with grisha the events played out exactly the same.
This is the part where my brain starts collapsing on itself, the events of the manga happen because Eren interfered with those events in the past, but Eren cannot interfere with those events in the past if he doesn't interfere with those events in the past. What?

the attack titan only has the ability to see memories of future holders
for what I understand eren used here was a combinaton of the royal blood power (watching past memories of any shifter) + paths power through zeke (being able to interact with those memories) + triggering grisha own attack titan power by making him see one of eren's memories

>ZF was started by a chink
>ZF was a meme inside EH meme
>Isayama still found out about it
He probably browsed the threads.

Yes

Was there a jap media that started it on the manga/anime end or is it something like doctor who that pushed it foward. seems like a bunch of time travel in stories in the last decade.

Eren is going to break the loop.

I think the problem is that in most time travel stories we see something like the world getting fucked and then the characters deciding to go back in time to fix it. Here, we see the world as it was "fixed" by the characters time traveling, and we only learn that the characters time traveled when we get to the point in the "future" where they time travel to the past.
Of course it's not quite time travel either here, it's more like memories time traveling.

Go off king, I bet you watch rick and morty too.
>if I just make up some incoherent drivel about time that is literally impossible then I will sound smart.
Pfft truly big brain

Time is not linear, and PATHS exist out of time.

I think that's the case too. His freedom will be consecrated through his enshrinement as the sole person that caused all the suffering humanity and he himself has suffered through life. Rather than being a victim of his past, he will set himself up as being the one who has done all that has happened to him. His final freedom will be to announce himself as the one that is responsible for all that titans ever did, because that's the only way to transcend the cattle-like situation he lived on previously. Since he was previously the one who had his story written for him, he has now taken the reins.

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Look at Eran's face, he at last saw the truth of everything and it broke him.

I have no idea, unfortunately. But Isayama likes a lot of Western media, so it could be either one.

Eren is for Historia
School Shooter Eren is for Gothkasa

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>literally impossible
1. proof
2. you do realize this is a manga with humans that summon flesh mechs right?
3. Time loop is consistent and has no paradox.

>Its the only coherent version of time travel.
There are definitely more ways that time travel can make sense. For example, the time travel in Stein's Gate or the MCU where changing the past just splits the timeline creating two timelines; one where you changed the past, and one where everything goes on as normal.

I'm not even going to pretend i understand this mess.

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>Grisha just says that it's an innate ability of the Attack Titan.
It seems to be both. Eren/AT users can only influence other AT users via paths. Because of the founding Titan and Zeke his abilities become more influential. Zeke brings him to paths, and Eren can exert his power because time doesn't matter in paths he can influence the future still.

>time travel in steins gate or the MCU
Oh my god don't even get me started. Don't get me wrong steins gate is my 3rd favorite anime and it does multiple timelines perfectly. It's just even when its done perfectly it still is incoherent garbage that makes no sense.

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He was born into this world because he sent memories to Kruger to have a family inside the wall. That means he is responsible for his own birth. As such, he is fully free and the beginning and end, the alpha and the omega. The reason this is possible is because the Attack Titan exists outside of time and space, inside the paths, where it has manifested and personified in Eren. If you were to see it teologically, Eren is the son, the AT is the father, and the paths are the holy spirit. In any case, Eren has probably been born many times before, besides having influenced the memories of many past AT holders beside him. It might also be that conversely, Eren himself is a concatenation of every AT holder in the past. Every time the AT holder wished for freedom, Eren's spirit got closer to being born, until finally after Kruger he managed to get Grisha to father him. It's very possible that, like Christ, Eren wasn't Grisha's blood son, and Carla gave birth through parthenogenesis.

the only thing eren influenced was grisha decision at that moment, grisha saw eren's rumbled world on his own since he had the attack titan, and eren saw his father seeing his future the moment he touched historia thanks to bot the ability of anyone with royal blood to see memories through paths and the founding titan shared it with eren

Baby Manlet, his whore mother and other whores.

Unironically this.

he doesn't, he has access to memories. The only time they influenced something was when Grisha thought he saw Zeke.

I don't know how people doesn't realize this since Eren Krueger did the same.

>192813240
>This is the part where my brain starts collapsing on itself, the events of the manga happen because Eren interfered with those events in the past,
They didn't. Not yet as far as we know.

>no one understands the plot anymore
Prove me wrong

>Eren will stop Ymir by proposing to set her free
Screencap this

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self insert

anyone have eren's copy pasta?

It's kinda obvious by now Eren send Mikasa a path message when Eren was about to get choked so she saves his younger self.

Isayama shitcanned that option day 1 with Eren saying that a situation like that is unrealistic and retarded to Pixis on the wall

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How exactly is he doing that since he is doing the same things already that his father did

wrong reaction

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cute hisu

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