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>Eren does the rumbling
>whole world dies
>in the flames, a single girl is still alive
>"What's your name, young girl" Eren says
"I'm the devil of the earth"
cringe
Personally im a firm believer Armin saves the world from Eren
FOUNDER YMIR
Kino
It's over.
Erenchads win.
why so early?
I thought the chapter was on the 7th
Armong will get mangled by dogs. As for Mankasa she will die in Kiyomi's plane or be eaten.
>Armin is Eren's little sister
>Rumbling is about to happen
>NO YOU CAN'T HAVE SEX
What is Zeke thinking?
SO if a royal blood person had the attack titian would they be able to pull the shit Eren did in this chapter all the time? Is it confirmed each of the nine titians has a secret ability that oonly the royal blood can unlock in them? Like the cordinate and the beast titan's roar?
Neither of those are happening semi-satan
>Eren is doing all this for Armin like how Grisha did all this for Faye
I cant believe the EArfujos won
>The Advancing Giant rebels against the self righteousness of the founder
> The advancing giant never obeys anyone
BASADO best chapter in months. Eren is a nazi king who doesn't take orders from anybitch.
So just like how Zeke and Eren are the opposite I think Historia would never agree with Frieda
What was eren thinking at this exact moment?
He cared but he lost his will to do what needs to be done after living a comfortable life with a wife and child.
Reminder that Eren only had GLIMPSES of the future and wasnt sure that those visions are set int stone.
Thats why he went to Marley and was scared shitless before his head got blown off, he had to achieve touching Zeke inside the walls for the future he saw to actually come true.
Even now its not certain, thats why he is strugging to hard to reach Ymir.
>the SnK was king crimson all along
>Zeke has to use founding titan requiem to prevent Eren from reaching the future in which he wins.
DOES LEVI KNOW?!
>post yfw chadren kills zeke
GRISHA!!! YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE ELDIA GREAT AGAN, NOT SPEND 13 YEARS PORKING YOUR HOT WIFE AND PLAYING WITH YOUR KIDS
>anons were saying nothing happened this chapter
His she with her eyes closed or she doesn't pupils? she lived for 13 years so why the fuck does she still look like a kid? Didn't she have children? BACKSTORY FUCKING WHEN?
No chill
Zeke Frieda ship memed into reality.
REMEMBER
ONLY FIVE (5) CHAPTERS LEFT BEFORE THE END
FEBRUARY 2020
>MUH PARALLELS
She was cuntraped into submission by Eren. Deal with it.
He's trying to convince himself that he's a good person and the savior of eldiankind while simultaneously using and forcing zeke to suffer just like his father did.
You know, Eren really is a piece of shit, and it's funny how they say the attack titan goes against the founding titan's self-righteousness, when that's literally what Eren is. Self-righteous. He thinks he knows everything and is always right. He thinks he can be a hero and is doing the right thing, and any time he has those doubts you can see him push them out of the way.
Fuck Eren.
You can clearly see in Eren's face that he did not expect this, and from that Zeke knew that Eren's running on blind.
Yeah I’m thinking kino is back on the menu boys
>Grisha: You disappoint me Eren
If eren was manipulating the very first attack titan he is truly the only free person in this world. Everything from the very start was being dictated by him, everyone is a puppet of clay molded and shaped by his will. Everyone is his slave. Eren is destiny itself
>source: my ass
>mfw a plan lasting nearly two thousand years finally comes to fruition
Praise the Keikaku Titan.
CHAD
based freedom man
source?
Eren manipulated Kruger to work with Ksaver to make Zeke betray his parents
>He thinks he knows everything and is always right.
I mean, he does and therefore is. If you win, you're right. He won, and he saw that he would win, therefore he will always win, thus he is right. The winner is right, the loser is evil. That's history for you.
NWF
>Isayama watched part 5 of jojo and liked diavolo a lot, so he retconned the entire manga
What did he see, Yea Forums?
EH is dead. Proof
>tfw Zeke wins and the story becomes a closed loop
This is why Armin is better.
So Eren is a slavemaster instead of making everyone else free...yeah, real noble.
Historia understood why Grisha did it, sorry in your mind women can't be bad and you love rape so much
>Didn't kill Hans when he had the chance even though he can see the future
CHAD
>DUDE HAHA LIKE ISN'T THIS A JOJO REFERENCE
I wish it was legal to kill people like you.
>Isayama ripping off game of thrones.
You know what else he'll rip off?
BASED
After this chapter we know Eren will win, what's the point of continue to read this shit?
Cute Floch
That's literally not how any of this works and watching your shitty mental gymnastics try to justify his irredeemable bullshit and narcissistic behavior is both hilarious and sad. He thinks he's God but he's satan himself. He's a piece of shit who puts his own revenge and twisted idea of freedom above every single person on the planet.
CHAD
What could have been
>Kino philosophical debate over the survival of the Eldian race and the ethics of rumbling the world
What was
>MUH TIMELOOPS
1) How he wins
2) What did he win?
>View Eren saw
Everyone loves Commander Hange
Since future Attack Titans aren't influencing things, it probably means Eren is the final Attack Titan
CHAD
Eren is going to become the devil
>the rumbling, Zeke. It was beautiful
No Armong is a weak beta faggot bitch.
Holy fuck. He had already seen it by that point, this isn't his imagination, is the actual rumbling happening
>the rumbling nii-san, it was beautiful.
Yeah and that the fuck was Eren thinking acting like that in front of Zeke, and nice way to make Grisha another victim of Eren.
This arc was a fucking mistake, Marley was better
>expecting Kino from a literally HACK who had been hacking the series he never expected to be popular or go beyond the plot of the SnK live action movie (his originally intended ending) to write a "Kino philosophical debate"
I still don't get how the fuck the attack titan works
He won't. We know Armin is the narrator so he won't win in the end.
>what did he win
That's a good question. What is he even fighting for if he thinks everyone else is a slave? His own freedom? You're not free by killing billions of people. Taking other peoples' freedom away doesn't make you free, and on a scientific level literally nobody is free, we're all slaves to our hormones, chemicals, and time.
Trips of truth
Isayama is a diehard /got/ fan. He would love nothing more than to turn his protagonist into another genocidal maniac like Dany was
In all honesty though, Dany and Eren would love each other
>That's literally not how any of this works
It is though, and you'd know that if you paid attention but clearly even this series is above your IQ level.
>The female Titan has some mysterious power, possibly a comparable to the attack titan
Did I miss something? Also big annie cope.
There's no time where they're at.
You truly must be pissed that you can't post this anymore
>midget blonde royal
Of course Eren would love her
>future Attack Titans aren't influencing things
>*pic blocks your path*
That's about the quality of a rebuttal I'd expect from someone defending Eren. Erenfags aren't well read or intelligent and can only say buzzwords like beta, faggot, cuck, and s o y when faced with an argument that fractures their fragile worldview. It's like how male nogs say "muh dick" in response to everything confusing.
>The Attack Titan is the embodiment of rebelion against authority (the Founder), it exists for the sole purpose of standing up against him.
B A S E D
A
S
E
D
>Annie
>Hange and Manlet
>Ymir's backstory
>Hisu
>Oh yes, and the ending
There's bound to be some plot holes/glossed defails by the end of the story if there are only 5 chapters left
Isayama has wanted to murder everyone from the beginning, he’s getting there
Just some EMfag shitposting
>Armin is the narrator
That's just an anime thing and Armin takes too much cock up his ass.
So what happens after Eren activates the rumbling?
Everyone just dies?
>>Ymir's backstory
This will be covered next chapter
Detective Hanji will take care of the rest
>male nogs
I spot an unfuckable autistic landwhale who can't get cock up her smelly cunt to save herself. Why haven't you killed yourself yet?
Only Anniefags would care about trying to give her timeloop powers.
It's "power" is what we all thought was just a common thing related to paths, what happened to Kruger at the end of chapter 89 when he mentioned Armin and Mikasa. It is the only titan that not only pass down memories, but also is able to see future ones.
God i actually love Eren so much. He's one of the best anti-heroes i've ever seen.
Does that mean Historia will kill Eren?
each volume has 4 chapters in it. 121st chapter is the first in the 30th volume, either 3 chapters or 7 or more are left, silly user
>n-no u
Who's the low IQ individual here? Manipulation =/= freedom. I know that's hard for someone like you to understand, but please try.
>paranoia
Yep, there it is, more Erenfag delusions. I never posted that, mister mental asylum escapee.
It's an anime thing that's still going on and was an active decision on Isayama's part.
Thanks, you're just proving me even more right. You can't even argue, just throw insults and attempt to string together words to form something semi-coherent. You can't refute anything I say because I'm 100% correct, and you're too stupid and narcissistic to admit it.
He's such a meme.
Sex with Armongwhales
Based EHledditor
Tell me about "that scenery"
The Female Titan is the ultimate stacy who attracts beta orbiters through her mating call.
That's her power and quite frankly it's not even that good compared to Annie's kung fu.
but can it influence anything in the past or is it just clairvoyance
>the cucked older half-brother/sister vs the redpilled younger half-brother/sister
It's like poetry, it rhymes.
>was an active decision on Isayama's part
Source?
Doesn't that mean when the Fritz kings were around the world massacring people, the AoT was killing eldians left and right?
erencucks are in full damage control kek
dilate already
>>Annie
Remains frozen in the crystal, we get one small scene where she gets crushed to death by a colossal during the rumbling. Just before he kills her she wakes up and sees his foot and is like "B-Bert?".
>>Hange and Manlet
There will be a small scene where Lebi dies in Hans' hands just before Hans' gets crushed by a colossal foot, unwilling to leave his friend die and wanting to stay with him until the end.
>>Ymir's backstory
Explained next chapter.
>>Hisu
She will probably have a miscarriage but then she will hug the farmer, her childhood love, before the same titan who killed LH kills her.
>>Oh yes, and the ending
4 chapters are enough.
>There's bound to be some plot holes/glossed defails by the end of the story if there are only 5 chapters left
Yeah, but not really important. Just like LOST ended up with lost of plot holes and focused entirely on Jack in the end, SnK will focus entirely on Eren.
God I hope so
>"ugh fucking time travel plots" comments in some places
Is this time travel and really that left field at this point for some people
Do you even wonder how sex with Armongwhales is like? Imagine the yearly bed bill when they're not busy fapping over Shotarmin.
Grisha feeling like he's fucking losing it, imagine just staring at your son from the future right fucking there
I get it that the SnK can see the future of the next successor, but how the fuck does Eren manage to outplay the system by going back to the past memories (of grisha) and from there he is somehow able to see his own future? that's literally contradicting
Holy shit, I can actually see that. Isayama did say everyone would died.
Frieda wanted the Eldians in the wall to slowly die away? Why didn't she just use the founding titans to just thanos snap all of them dead?
Or is that the whole point. She CAN'T use her powers to directly kill titans/Eldians because the "renouncing of war" is a restriction that prevents all killing. So when Grisha asks her to kill the titans outside of the wall, she actually CAN'T, and by refusing to tell the titans to fuck off she can finally indirectly kill the Eldians. But that just makes me think, would Zeke's plan even work? Is chemically castrating every Eldian the loophole to kill all Eldians, or would that be cockblocked by the no-war restriction? Why couldn't Frieda think of the castration plan? Maybe Frieda didnt actually want to go through with her suicide pact, she wanted to drag the problem out to the next generation, and the next generation would also run away from the problem, and so on.
In a way, Eren is completely right. The royal family was not committed to their "atonement" at all, they were just running away from all of their problems. I bet Frieda would have rejected Zeke's plan if they ever had the chance to meet.
>Even their hair colors contrast perfectly
Isayama was heavily involved in the process of the anime's creation.
>more buzzwords
"muh dick"
We saw in this chapter that Eren influenced Grisha, so yes, it can. He also was probably influencing himself when he was saying "Fight, fight" in the mirror in the end of the Marley arc.
Ethics discussion is always cringe and never kino because ethics are made up low IQ drivel
@192805508
how?
Who hurt you? You sound like a fool with all the self righteous bullshit.
Absolute horror and awe at the same time...
Something beyond mortal understanding...
The abyss itself
>crushed to death by a colossal during the rumbling. Just before he kills her she wakes up and sees his foot and is like "B-Bert?".
>implying
You know jack shit about physics, Armongwhale
Nah, Shitren will kill Shitstoria via the rumbling. He hates the cattle queen, he only needed her to get fucked by the farmer in front of him so that Zeke would be safe and so that Zeke could bring Eren to the pathsland instead of being eaten by Shitstroria. She can burn in hell together with her lover Ymir.
Does anyone really think after this that Eren wouldn't use his own child as part of a plan? He seems set on achieving his goal at any cost, and since he bullied Grisha into doing what he did there's no way to "surpass" him anymore as there's nothing to surpass.
Eren was always going to end up in this position at the root of Ymir, and he was always going to set into motion Grisha's actions by exploiting the future memories to appear where he needed to to brainfuck Grisha.
>thinks
he literally can see the future
so the attack titan is 40 dimensional temporal chess
>w-who hurt y-you
This level of cope and tears is delicious. Give me more, Erenfatties. You're absolutely hilarious in how pathetic you leeches are. There's never been a character fanbase this cancerous, this braindead, and this repulsive.
So you don't have any source then
user, did you fall? Eren is still beter than whoever is your favourite
WTF ISAYAMA IS A COMPLETE FUCKING MADMAN
Yeah, Grisha is terribly scummy, but he don't hold a candle to Eren.
Am I a brainlet or wasn't it confirmed that Eren wins? Why is Zeke still trying?
Do you share the same idea?
Yes, give me more, cuckrenfatty. You're just embarrassing yourselves. Throw an even bigger autistic shitfit for everyone to laugh at, will you?
Was it a retcon?
>He seems set on achieving his goal at any cos
Then he could have sacrificed Historia years ago and would have already achieved his goal.
>Eren literally told Zeke to have sex
holy shit this chapter
>how the fuck does Eren manage to outplay the system by going back to the past memories (of grisha) and from there he is somehow able to see his own future?
By getting the AT, the coordinate and getting in contact with a royal titan.
>being this buttmad about weeaboo shit
cringe
Zeke believes the future isn't set because there are moments Eren did not see.
Well, Isayama made it clear.
either that or they will all agree with Eren
ShingeKI NO Kyojin is literally advancing manga as an artform while the rest dabble in moeshit and isekaishit. Holy based.
>eren's wish will come true
imagine have this much of a plot armor, eren basically can't lose unless someone from the future mindfucks him the same way he did with grisha etc
How old are you? You sound so immature
But Zeke wanted to have sex and Eren killed his waifu.
Don't bother. Armongwhale thinks crystals are like the bag of potato chips she lands on accidentally. See pic related
He was not stating his intention
He was stating a fact
The signs were there all along
Yeah, it's called "self defense"
>watches as some farmer fucks the queen in front of him
a phyrric victory.
But that wasn't the path his visions told him to take.
Honestly this chapter made me like eren more
I feel like i'd probably do something similar in his position
What type of person would just lay down and solently accept getting crushed by the rest of the world?
>E-Eren?
Grisha told him Eren wins though.
So Who was controling Eren when he goes apeshit in season one?
>twisted idea of freedom
No such thing
>Does anyone really think after this that Eren wouldn't use his own child as part of a plan?
Yes, he wouldn't. This is a big theme of this arc. Sasha literally died for this.
Everyone except my faves of course :^)
This. Eren is a slave to his paths and he abused Historia just because the paths told him to have her get raped by the farmer.
Fucking called it too
>Erin sees all Grisha's memories
>Sees all the parts in which he appears in Grisha's memories
>Proceeds to maneuver his way to FoundingLand, so he can appear in Grisha's memories
>repeat
I don't think so? Either that or Isayama hadn't planned that far ahead. It just shows Grisha looking out the door, not showing his eyes, so Isayama might have just taken the freedom to show that it was Grisha just staring Eren down
That scenery looks beautiful, right?
>before saving the world, I want to save you
himself is my guess
>He was looking at Eren here, that's why his eyes aren't shown
BRAVO
Press s to spit on all the retards who thought eren was a brainlet with no plan and that he would lose to a literal incel like Zeke, I'm so glad you fags are finally getting btfo
fucking bullshit
His future self
>Actually, Hanjo, the first time we met, you were leading me in chains to my trial where manlet kicked my face in.
But Zeke had sex with Eren
"who hurt you" is the archetype of a faceberg femoid
If he didn't bully Grisha, this story wouldn't have existed
Holy fuck.
Shinge KINO Kyojin
>Eren robbed Zeke of his chance to feel them
>that was beautiful, Sansa
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST NOT WANT YOUR PEOPLE TO DIE
other way around
>Sorry brother, i betrayed you to get to this place
>Aha! Foolish brother, i'm now going to use my power to deny you using the power and will try to heal you!
>Idiotic brother! I knew you were going to that 4 years ago, so i used you to show this situation through the memories. I've also manipulated everyone else to get to this exact situation
>Just wait a second brother! I'm going to use the power anyway!
>Pathetic, brother. I will now break free and stop you from using the power!
Kruger Kino Parallel.
Stand! Have you lost your balls dad?
I know you're an Armong fan. The worst character for me. I just have to ignore you
>Eren is not the final bo-
Falco is right there in the page, user. Eren is very willingly to manipulate and kill children.
>all of this was planned from chapter 1
It's been a while since we've had a series this fulfilling hasn't it
yes
honestly this is a perfect leftie white guilt self hate archetype vs the anti-antinatalist self loving right wing archetype
Well when your competition is genocide by infertility or by warfare, you can't help but feel justified.
Ffty
She was a chestlet just like every girl in the series
Historia was farmed and is still hella lesbian. Deal with it, EHfat. This chapter confirmed EREN NEVER HAD ANY CONTACT WITH HISTORIA AFTER HE TOUCHED HER HAND.
The true hero of this story
Not his children. Isayama said that Eren is a very selfish person.
He has the devils own luck
Why is Armin barely in Eren's memories?
Isayama asspull again?
Come on. Is that the best you got?
Seething
Why is this arc sowith fucking bad compared to Marley? Eren in Marley made sense and felt bad for his mother but now he is YES I WOULD LET MY MOTHER DIE FOR MY KEIKAKU?
Is it really that hard to make the SL responsibles for not protecting their own country?
>Grisha knew what would happen, why it would happen and how
>but there's basically nothing he could've done, because the Attack Titan's already done it
>the ENTIRE SERIES IS A FLASHBACK
So why did he let Annie kill Petra and others? Just for fun? Hell why not just eat her while she's asleep or something
What was:
>Grisha realizes that, even if he didnt try to convince his son, he still feels the same way as him, so he thinks Eren is ready to learn the truth and join the fight for eldia
After this chapter:
>LOL TIMELOOP
Just say natalist fucking lmao
>anime
I don't think it was planned per-se, but Isayama definietly regularly re-reads his earlier chapters to sneak in moments like this.
chestlets are a blessing
Wow. Frieda is a fucking pathetic bitch
Too bad the anime version is different. Will look like a retcon in S4.
Thats Grisha's memories, retard.
did I miss it? what page?
>they've been in the Paths this entire time
>they've always been in the Paths
>the entire series we've seen is just a flashback
this moment in the Paths is eternal, unchanging, a fixed point in space and time
>barely in
>memories aren't about him, they're about grisha and zeke
extremely low quality bait, kill yourself immediately
Because it's literally not moving.
I do like the idea of him as a reluctant hero. Especially after the apology Grisha just gave him.
Again, Grisha KNOWS he's there. And he's HORRIFIED
Eren's basically a voice in his head telling him to do awful things right now.
Even after all this he still goes on to give all this power to Eren.
These text bubbles are the absolute dumbest shit out of context
>through father's memories I saw my memories from the future
How the fuck did SnK end up here
Yeah I agree to it's open endedness but he still facilitated this, and it was at least concrete by Kruger's final words. That by itself is still pretty good
If Grisha wanted Zeke to stop Eren then why did he then turn Eren into a Titan, thus setting his plot in motion?
>inb4 explained in the following chapters
>ethics are made up low IQ drivel
You take that back
>being a speedreader
shameful
>Eren knew everything ever since he kissed Historia's hand
Then why the fuck did he look normal in the flashbacks? I was afraid when the editor said Isayama changes things from month to month
I swear people here can't understand jokes at all. Kys.
We don't need to see muh ocean or muh bullies again.
Yes, he's very selfish. He pushed his own father away knowing his mother would be dying without him around, and forced him to kill little children over a manipulated memory. Even his own family he steps over.
Eren obviously feels guilt for his actions but he's doing what he must in order to see his final goal through
someone needs to put cuckren down once and for all
counting on you zeke
Can't wait for Isayama to asspull another very convenient power from the Female Titan.
What will it be ?
>That scenery
but where's Rico
Hmmm so the reason he couldn't tell people this is because maybe the future would change.
Holy fuck this chapter was so insanely good I feel like re-reading the entirety of SnK even though I already watched it 3 times and read through it 1 time. I'm pretty sure SnK will go down as one of the best manga ever, it's fucking insane how good it is.
When did he first saw him? He looks used to seeing him.
Happy birthday, best nose
>Eren obviously feels guilt for his actions
FUCK YOU, SHE IS PERFECT
>THAT SCENERY
It makes sense. Eren can't see his own future memories, but he could make Grisha see Eren's future memories, and through that Eren can see the memories of his father seeing Eren's future memories.
>that scenery
He is the favorite son for a reason.
Is this chapter proof that the whole time Eren was rumbling Historia all he could see was the rumbling happening?
Who's going to put Zeke down so he doesn't turn the entire Eldian population into a bunch of infertile fucks?
>implying she's not another tool in eren's plan
I'm serious? How old are you? Forget about the beef, you truly sound immature. I'm not kidding
Well they also did all the em shit so I'm not that bothered by the anime going off script as much anymore
Damn, this manga is getting better and better, but who is actually right? What was the future Eren saw? Grisha said it was horrible, but what makes Eren believe it's right? And Zeke is actually the hero and not the villein? Even Grisha seems to hate Eren and tried to apologize to Zeke. It's pretty fucking mindblowing that Eren somehow changed the past and that Grisha knew all along that Eren would become the Attack Titan and do all this shit before it even happened.
Damn so The Owl was just a goofball all along huh.
Eren realised the Attack Titans powers but the greatest spy in Marley couldn't.
He was reminiscing happily to the future memories of the world being destroyed.
>that scenery
For him his family is already dead tho.
inb4 he went back in time already, ate her and has some more bullshit powers
Dropped.
>Eren manage to outplay the system
That's just it. He isn't outplaying anything, he IS the system. A part of it and was destined to be so all along.
Its a shame Yea Forums will forever hate it. Although that's partly because the threads are irredeemable cancerous garbage.
>people unironically advocate for the genocide of the betters so not to inconvinience the inferiors
peak white guilt
>that scenery
Because he killed them.
>Eren tells Grisha to do awful things
>Eren is responsible for Grisha being a terrible father to Zeke
ENTER SANDMIN
I'm actually glad Isayama switched favorites because Armin gathers too much fat and autism from dumblr. Pedowhales need to be gassed.
O MY FORESEEING TITAN
It's likely because Zeke created the perfect storm for Eren to control things through, whereas Kruger may have just been some guy who set everything into motion and didn't have a deeper understanding of it. Eren was born special because he literally made himself so by manipulating things to encourage his role to what he does by comparison.
Sounds like anime timeloop plot twists in a nutshell.
I'm guessing it'll be something like "you can't change fate/the future, it's all set in stone, etc"
It looks like Grisha only notices anything after 'seeing' old-man Zeke in 120.
First time it looks like anyone else notices is baby Eren, but that's iffy at best.
Zeke has already lost.
Is it just me or is Eren getting hotter and more attractive as the series progresses? I didn't think that was possible. Long hair just looks so good on him.
Isayama did say in an tnterview (the same one where he said that the Berthold/Reiner reveal was the midpoint of the story iirc) that SnK was about the cruelty and pointlessness of war, and about it only perpetuates the cycle of hate. So in that sense Eren's rumbling ending would be the perfect way to finish the manga.
>Expecting this beta bitch to not freeze when Eren consumes Zeke from the inside
>Expecting anything from Armong at all
nope
there was no natalist movement
there was an anti-natalist movement and then a reaction to it which can only be called anti-antinatalist
But what if Grisha isn't actually seeing Zeke and is only saying things Eren told him to in order to trick Zeke to give up?
>inferiors
>betters
>er*nwhales
/pol/ is the cancer killing Yea Forums
SUMMER OF 92
What do Grisha mean by this?
"He" turned into a girl.
I'm seeing double here. 4 Erens!
The live action was garbage you retard.
I assume Eren will only selectively send memories back to the past once he takes control of the coordinate, and he's seen them only Grisha's/Kruger's memories. But then isn't it strange to say the Attack titan can see the future? More like the founding titan implants the memories that the attack titan perceives, Grisha only thinks the Attack has that power because he's accessing future memories sent back with the founding.
Too confusing desu
So, are we going down the Legacy of Kain style time shenanigans(sans the actual time travelling)?
Every event was predestined to happen.
Too late to change, there's a future to be had.
Eren seems like some kind of nihilist, like he just wants to kill everyone on the planet so there is no more fighting and everyone is dead. It's like his way of "saving" everyone. Eren probably lost his sanity years ago.
No character has any agency at all other than Eren and Zeke in this point of the story.
>Fuck you Zeke I'll make Dad be an even worse father in the past
SnK has the deepest fucking lore
It wouldn't surprise me if Zeke actually wins and sterilizes all eldians. Wasn't it said the ending would not be a happy one?
Fair reminder that 'the devil' is famously depicted as a malicious voice in your head tempting to evil and self-destruction. Eren is literally that to Grish and himself. I don't believe for a second Isayama planned everything from the start, but he damn sure makes it look convincing.
why you mad bro? wait, erenfags are always mad. get some therapy my dude
Have sex with Frieda and Zeke
We don't know that, because he hasn't tried as long as we know.
Rumbling, what else?
not like any of the alternatives are fully happy
why was Eren so scared?
The Attack Titan seeing the past and future is a pretty big leap up from "can run fast".
>ZE were in the Paths for years.
>Grisha spent his entire adult life knowing he was being watched by his deranged son.
The unhappy ending is the genocide of 99% of the world.
So was Eren talking to himself in the mirror sending memories to past AT holders?
At this point I think I'm willing to accept any ending as long as it isnt pants on head retarded. I really feel like I'm not sure how itll end anymore and I'm just happy I was here for the ride, what a great series. Also I'm rooting for chadren
Eren's will is powerful and resonates through all the AT's
>Source: my ass
That's Frieda
I bet the Female Titan has the power to undo Ymir's curses
Seems to me like something is going to turn Eldians into mass titans and the world's gonna end at Eren's hands as a method of clearing out all of the conflict in the world, honestly. And unless shit can be changed, he's already won.
reddit begone
Prediction of a flashback
>Eren impregnated historia just to keep touching her and having his special powers active long enough to see and be able to alter the entire story
Eren has such a beautiful mane now, I'm jealous of him.
Well the alternative is the rumbling, and the audio seems to tell us that's what happens.
>Grisha proclaims the Attack Titan was meant to oppose the Founding Titan
>Zeke proclaims that no one has yet been able to oppose the Founding Titan
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
How the fuck do they have any agency? The whole outcome of History will be decided in that split second where Eren's head lands on Zeke's palm. There's nothing anyone can do about it.
I'm a dumbass and idk how the attack titan works or how Eren used it to his advantage can someone help me plz
Because he needed access to those memories by Zeke, he couldn't fuck around.
Eren winning is literally worse than Zeke winning in every way though.
how does it make you feel that she is a self-hating freak worse than even zeke?
No, Zeke is just as bad as Eren. No matter who comes out on top, it's a lose/lose situation for everyone.
kek, based.
>Causes attack on walls himself
>Kills his own mother
>Kills made by Annie are irrelevant, but he still lets them happen
>Doesn't stop getting Sasha killed
Based
>i wonder who's behind this post
So basically for all the imperialism and bad things white people did in the past, they should let the rest of the world (who happens to hate them) get rid of them, through genocide via invasion or just downright sterilizing themselves as the ultimate payback.
WOKE
Yes just like how Kruger talking about armin and mikasa must be saved. I think this also confirms that eren still cares about them in truth because he was the one responsible for Kruger saying that.
EH BTFO
He did see something that he wants to achieve.
>evil Eren intentionally killed his mom to create himself
It's no longer a meme, Eren is officially part of the "did nothing wrong" gang along with Griffin and Adolf Hitler.
What audio?
the only way eren can be fully redeemed is if he's doing all of this evil anti-freedom shit to unite the entire world to take him down
if he does that i'll never say a bad thing about him again. i think it could possibly work too if the world sees the other shifters and eldians trying to fend him off
The cliffhanger is a formality.
Owl didnt think about touching royal blood and also couldnt do it in the first place
>Attack titan
can send the memories of future titan holders to past ones through paths, giving them an absolute upper hand against anyone
>beast titan
...
...
So how is this whole future shit supposed to work? What if Grisha just smashed Erens head in after realizing that the future self of his son was a total nutjob using him to set up the end of the world?
I fell in love.
>Zeke wanting to sterilise the Eldians was the good option all along
He just wanted the Eldians to die out peacefully after experiencing so much pain in his life, Eren is literally going to exterminate them.
Go back
they can fight or run away or hide. eren isnt controlling their minds therefore they're free.
you're really mad sneed
>how does it make you feel that Karl the Cuck is a self-hating freak worse than even zeke?
>Eren killed his mom
What the fuck are you talking about, motherfuckers?
>worse than Zeke
Nobody is worse than Zeke
Nigga went to another dimension to make sure nobody from his entire race had sex anymore
some stable time loop shit, seemingly destiny through time
Pretty sure both rumbling and this are going to happen and the you are free is sieg but in a weird way
>Zeke talking about something important but Eren is busy to see again his Kino moment with Mikasa.
Eren is so out during this scene, even Zeke react to Eren's radio silence
>Zeke :"are you ok, Eren"
Maybe Zeke will make eldians lose their titan powers somehow? It is the only happy ending I can think of
we "2 years away lmao" again
All the previous Attack Titan holders have been influenced by Eren (he is probably the last one). The Attack Titan always made it's users fight for freedom, but it wasnt really the titan itself, but Eren.
That actually makes sense, Eren didn't say that the wall was being destroyed that day to Grisha. He didn't knew.
This could not happen because the future where Eren lives and sends his memories back has already happened. There is no escape for anyone until the end of Eren's memories. This entire series is one big flashback
Honestly based
If you think Zeke is right you should unironically kill yourself (no matter what race you are by the way) for the sins of your ancestors to be logically consistant
I can't believe Eren is fucking dead but is still gonna win just because he already tampered with the future and lived through the future
This is fucked up
>that scenery
The audio WIT released, confirmed to be the final sounds in the anime.
Shut up and go work on TFRing retard.
>that scenery
mankasacusks were never even in the bowl
so why is isayama making them suffer like this?
>We'll never see them grow old together in peace
>Muh revenge
What did he mean by this?
What exactly is stopping Grisha from killing Eren instead of giving him the attack titan? Grisha already knew Eren was using him after he stole the founder titan.
I think they mean that Eren did nothing to prevent it.
How does he activate the rumbling if hes dead
That's the best part. Eren's NOT fucking dead. He has seen some scenery after all this, so he must have survived getting his head blown off.
Eren from the future directed Grisha to the founding titan and ordered him in many ways. But he did not give the information that would save his mom to Grisha.
Reminder that he wants you to suffer.
1) Story goes normal
2) Eren sees the vision by touching Historia's hand
3) Eren now knows what to do and sends specific memories past AT holders to make sure everything happens as it should
4) Grisha can see the vision of the future
5) Eren used Zeke to enter Grisha's memories so he could make Grisha kill the royal family, and retrieve the founding titan
6) Eren who kisses Historia's hand can now see the vision of the future through Grisha's memories
You get it?
Future Eren literally dictated everything Grisha did. Imagine your adult child watching everything you did and telling you what to do. Surprised Grisha didn't collapse under pressure and kill himself, poor bastard.
So then what is the best course of action? Grisha said Eren's wish would come true but since Zeke told Ymir to take the ability to reproduce away from Ymir's descendants that basically destroys whatever Eren was planning to do.
Eren is all about "muh freedom" so since Ymir's people can't produce that basically just means they'll all die out eventually.
Probably saw them all as necessary sacrifices, even though watching his mother get eaten in half like a candy bar traumatized him, he still didn't prevent it from happening. Probably felt that he needed the motivation booster to fuel his rage and plans. Really, Eren was a garbage son. Let his mother die even though he could have prevented it, controlled his father's actions and mentally tortured him, betrayed his brother, was a complete dick/asshole to his friends and comrades, etc.
Just completely went off the deep-end. Pretty sure Eren won't come back from any of that. He'll die, like I'm already expecting it to happen and since he can see the future I'm sure he probably can foresee his own death. Of course the future can be changed I guess, since that's what Zeke is attempting to do currently.
So if The Owl had accidentally touched Dina this entire story probably never happens.
we need an edit of Grisha saying Eren disappoints him
>He literally looks sideways
holy kino
>I bet Frieda would have rejected Zeke's plan if they ever had the chance to meet.
Of course, Frieda would've wanted his babies so much Zeke would have changed his mind to oblige.
How fucking retarded are some of you?
If Grisha smashed his head in he would not have gotten the message in the first place and therefore no incentive to smash the head in
Desperate EH
another bullshit power, that's how
Maybe because he couldn't?
Even Jean knew that would be a slow and humiliating death
He 100% agreed with Eren, even though he was being manipulated.
Isayama has said he wants to cause as much suffering as possible.
He literally thinks that's making his manga memorable.
We don't know if he saw anything
>implying Owl didn’t agree with Eren
Eren has never given Grisha or HIMSELF information that would have prevented the deaths of all the people he cared about. That is being complicit in all murders. He is quite literally the worst human to have ever lived at this point.
Hard to say. Grisha doesn't know that Carla's dead, so he might have been consumed by anger.
>the attack titan was never really the attack titan. it was the time titan controlled by erens motivation for freedom
absolute kino
kino
He seemed pretty horrified by the rumbeling
Shit Eren confirmed alive.
This is the last time that Eren touches Historia
Erens just seen the future from future Attack titan users, he's dead jim
Explain this chapter in easy words please
Im stupid so no bully pleas
I don't think he can send memories back just by having the attack titan, he'll probably send them only now once he takes control of the founder away from Zeke.
>So then what is the best course of action?
For Paradis itself, it's all fucked up.
>but since Zeke told Ymir to take the ability to reproduce away from Ymir's descendants that basically destroys whatever Eren was planning to do.
By taking this action Zeke has literally played into Erens hands and his future will come to pass.
attack titan's unique ability is that it can see the future and interact with the past but that's an ulti that only works when in contact with royal blood
Based
best summary so far
You often see in media a character that has edgy phases or backstory, but it gets either swept under the rug or forgotten..
But rarely you see a character that turns out to be an actual psycho and act on his desires.
This is simply amazing.
You know what scenery.
Of course he's horrified. He learned his son becomes a psychotic madman who wants to kill like 90% of the population with the rumbling.
He was lied to over the context of the memory.
Pretty sure she lost her agency when she took the founding. Her uncle was the same way.
Why did Grisha ask Zeke to stop Eren, why didn't he simply not give Eren the power?
Jean probably has erectile dysfunction anyway.
>That scenery
So that part about past titan users maybe being able to control the current user was retconned?
This chapter made 0 sense
Dropped.
How so? Did you not see Eren's panicked reaction? Or are you going to tell me that Eren is just faking it to trick Zeke into thinking he's freaking out? I mean Eren literally ripped his own fucking hand off to chase after Ymir.
That's some god-tier acting if Eren already foresaw what Zeke was going to do.
Best scene of this chapter
september's cope: checked
because he is retarded or its another fucking ass pull where eren only wins if grisha says that to zeke
More than he "couldn't" he "shouldn't", the things that are happening now depend on his mom dying.
Eren couldn't stop that shit from happening, what the fuck is wrong with you retard? Eren isn't god.
Grisha (and probably Kruger, and all the previous AT holders) was always influenced by future Eren, with a single goal in mind: to fulfill a future memory he saw when kissing historia's hand, one of a "beautiful scenery", which is probably the world being destroyed by the rumble.
Rate it.
We don't know, zeke had to cut the memories
it was headcanon
Because otherwise he would have never been able to say that to Zeke you fucking retard.
The true devil
I saw it as Eren can talk to Grisha as a voice inside his head, also it seems like Eren had convinced Grisha that there was "no other way" and to just listen to him. You saw Grisha crying and asking Eren if that as truly okay and if there was no other way? Eren just convinced Grisha that there was no other way but to give Eren the founding titan power.
Grisha couldn't go against Eren.
i dont think zeke is right. get some reading comprehension lad. viewing things so black and white is a trademark of underage newfags by the way. there's always another way, even if the chances of it working arent great. i can think of a few other ways to go about finding peace and freedom with varying possibilities. for me? its last minute trust exercises and the marley shifters and the other former captives like niko using their influence to reassure the world that they arent so bad, and that eren is the real enemy of all of mankind including eldians. maybe turn the walls into a theme park too i dunno could be fun
i am right now
Eren too has only shards of what is to happen, he was fully suprised by Gabi ripping his head off, he was even more suprised by Zeke ordering Ymir. There's a hight chance that what he saw might've been misinterpreted.
He probably is one of the betrayers
>EHcucks gone silent
We won, bros.
>Eren isn't God
>Doesn't understand how time traveling and altering of the past works.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, retard. Eren can fucking control the timestream, faggot. He can do whatever he fucking wants at this point.
do not listen to or The Advancing Giant can see specific moments in the future. This future is a closed loop. That is to say them seeing these memories doesn't change the future them receiving the memories was determined.
It just so happened that the reason grisha has talked to eren is BECAUSE zeke and eren are doing this route through history thing. Due to their connections with paths and the advancing giants ability grisha has the ability to interact with them slightly in their trip through time.
Remember this: EVERYTHING IS A CLOSED LOOP
Eren is unironically Sasuke done right.
This time paradox fuckery doesn't make any sense and Isayama is a hack. Also as expected Zecuck with a 360 the second Grisha puts a hug and a sweet word in, beyond pathetic
So what Eren saw were the main events of the future, but he didn't saw the small details like Sasha getting killed and the attack from Marley.
Because Grisha is chained to Eren's will by the AT, Zeke isn't.
Why the fuck did he acted like that? He scared Zeke and pushed him to act faster.
he cant alter the past dumbass
Eren from 4 years ago didn't see his future directly, right? He saw what Eren from the future showed to Grisha? So Eren from the present is yet to do it or what?
Why is it called "Attack Titan" and not "Time Fuckery Titan"?
That Scenery
Shhhh, Ymir-chan is sleeping.
Post SHUSH, EREN, to avoid disturbing her peaceful nap.
....so....this is it....EHbros. It's over. We can't go back after this chapter. Eren literally never even touched Historia after that one time he kissed her hand. EH is un-salvageable.
>There's a hight chance that what he saw might've been misinterpreted.
More like incomplete.
Eren will start the third impact
Wrong. Time is a closed loop in snk. You can't change the future or the past.
Nah it would still be the same
the closest he came to dina was at the wall and he was basically eren on steriods at that point
He can't alter the past because the past where he didn't alter anything has been set. Eren has agency but he has chosen to use it for freedom.
Lmao all this projection. Eren's story can also be a parallel to the revolutionaries dealing with the evils of america empire. Eren is a leftist revolutionary as he seeks freedom from imperialism and colonialism
So if I'm not wrong
>The power of the Attack Titan is to foresee the memories of future AT users
>The power of the Founding Titan (between others) is to manipulate memories and ultimately control the "paths" (he has "free" access to previous FT holders)
>Thanks to the power of the FT, currently in Zeke's control, Eren had access to the memories of the previous FT holder (Grisha). Then, Eren used the power of the AT to show Grisha *something* that would happen in the future, that ultimately influenced his actions
Am I right?
Maybe he saw it, that's why he laughed.
Delet
wrong
EHcuck here. We have given up. There's just no arguing with this chapter. Most of us have already committed suicide. I will do it myself tomorrow morning I suppose. EH is dead, we should be dead too, it's only fitting,.
Or all the event of the AoT universe is happening at the same time. The passage of time is a mere illusion.
>Eren rips his thumbs off to get to founder Ymir
>Ymir stops walking and starts building the flesh of the Attack Titan
>Eren' s real body transforms into a titan
>Eren is saved from death
anime ruined it
It's not called Attack titan. It's called The Advancing Giant. Which makes sense because it advances towards the future.
>I saw it as Eren can talk to Grisha as a voice inside his head
Eren is literally the Devil.
>What are you willing to give up to make sure this dream will come true?
>The devil sweetly whispered, as we lay down corpses to make our path
>Remember this: EVERYTHING IS A CLOSED LOOP
The titan rule is a closed loop, maybe that's what Eren wants, to be free of said time.
Eren didn't see the whole future. He only knew that proves in this a cave again, and began to act after this. Foolish to think that Ehren wouldn't have saved his mother when he had the chance, he probably didn't have that much power to change the past.
actually this is anti-EH
I'm saying there was no romance between them and Eren was using her
Truly a hallmark of a great writer
this series is fucking madness
every time i think i have a decent grasp on what the characters are doing isayama just annihilates any expectations i had
>777
Based EHfag, here is your blessing from Yea Forums before you off yourself. Thank you for admitting defeat on behalf of all EHfags.
You're a fucking speedreader or you have the comprehension of a brain dead horse. I'm not going to explain time altercation to you when it's so simple and laid out in this chapter.
>Closed loop
What the fuck are you even talking about? I didn't even see any "closed loop" shit mentioned or implied at all. You're just pulling theories out of your ass at this point. Honestly when the author introduced time powers and shit into the manga that's where it started becoming even more confusing, it always does when time shit is introduced. Let's just wait for the next chapter or two and then will see who was right about what.
Right now I have my own theory and you have yours. I don't think either is right.
>Wouldth you like to liketh deliciously?
That would be a closed loop.
>The attack titan has not obeyed anybody
>The attack titan is going to stop the founder and defy her will
He thought Zeke was going to play the memory game a bit longer that's why he was surprised Zeke acted so quickly
I just want to go back to the giant zombies post-apocalypse, bros
eren from the future didnt know what would happen, he just sent the memories back when he found out
Good. Don't talk about EH anymore so people here can stop generalizing all EH shippers. Once it happens you can come back and celebrate.
The time fuckery only comes with the coordinate, not with the base AT.
>Shingeki no Kyojin
>Play on Attack on Titan
>Attack Titan
>Literally Advancing Titan
How many layers are we on?
>the devil murmurs in a low voice as we continue forth on the path of corpses
>the devil the last opening talked about was eren all along
Based if true
Happy ending fags are about to learn what CATHARSIS means
Only white "people" don't think like this
>what are you talking about
Point to me where they changed the past you fucking brainlet.
See? Grisha was determined here, without Eren's words of encouragement.
ATTACK ON TIMEtan
So how does the first page fit into this?
sad
>I've got this path here, now
what did eren "3/10 wits" jaguar mean by this?
>No Eren, you are the Time Advancing Titan
>What the fuck are you even talking about? I didn't even see any "closed loop" shit mentioned or implied at all.
...
Are you fucking kidding me? Close this tab and reread the manga from scratch.
Yes
>I'm the Shingeki No Kyojin
Eren has agency, he chose not to change the past. It's literally not that fucking hard to understand. Eren is controlling everything at this point because he's seen everything that will happen. He had no desire/reason to change the past, moron.
>What was the future Eren saw? Grisha said it was horrible, but what makes Eren believe it's right?
For Mikasa'sake, Eren can do the worst thing to save her
EH is dead.
He sent memories to Kruger user. He could memories to Grisha and himself.
>yeah basically I dont agree with genociding all eldians but if you fight against it you are an evil extremist that has no N U A N C E
Give me the timetravel 101
I need to understand it
Bros... Who was he talking to?
There are three Erens. Kissing Hisu's hand Eren, chad Eren from this chapter and Eren from the future who saw the Scenery. Am I right?
He was able to push his father to take the founding.
If Eren has agency then your "closed loop" defense amounts to jack shit. Might as well stop bringing it up as a defense when it doesn't mater anymore.
someone remake the kruger puppeting eren thing but the other way around
Why did you skip Armin
Am I the only one impressed by the constant lighting/color contrasts between Zeke and Eren this chapter? Isayama is a fucking genius.
Eren kicked off a self-fulfilling prophecy, basically
>he chose not to change the past
LMAO YOU FUCKING BRAINLET. If the advancing giant had the ability to change time as it sees fit it would be too OP.
Why wouldn't Eren try to save everyone? Why wouldn't grisha? You are such a fucking dumb retard its unbelievable.
So....farmerbros won after all?
He can't change the past because it already happened.
Zeke is such a raging homosexual that he wants to fuck the First King
The future Attack Titan was talking to Eren, telling him what to do, or reminding him to keep fighting.
He is free
>very first opening
>THE ONE THAT WILL GAIN FREEDOM IS EREN
erenbros we are free
but that already happened
How do you think you brainlet
To Mikasa to kill
he's using < which signifies he's from infinitychan (or atleast trying to pose as one)
his past self or previous AT holders
Eren's rage has probably influenced all the Attack Titans in history. He is the source of everything.
FREE-FALLING
What will happen to Hisu if Ymir reaches the center and makes eldians sterile?
>Hanji is not a eldian
>Eren has no way of manipulating her, that's way her presense triggers him
I was agreeing with your point, but the idea that SnK is not a closed loop is retarded. Eren chose not to change the past from the position he is in and thus is complicit in the sacrifices made, but it was always destined to be this way. He can't change what he has changed because he eventually chose not to change anything in the first place. That's a textbook closed loop.
Why wouldn't Eren try to save everyone? Why wouldn't grisha?
Well, we don't know why...yet, user. Obviously Eren had his reasons, or some BS power that hasn't been introduced. You're so narrow minded and bad at theorycrafting user...it's just sad.
the smile edits are still the best thing to come out of this shitfest
Source: my ass
EHbro.. you didn't read the chapter? It's over bro...
Thanks to Zeke bringing him into Grisha's memories. Eren had to complete the loop.
>Attack Titan
it's not, that's just shitty translation, Shingeki no Kyojin can be translated as "Advancing Titan", he's literally moving forward into the memories
kek
Hanji is a marleyan spy, an Ackerman to be precise
Rumbling is a red herring, Eren is gonna make it so non-Eldians can titanize too. Checkem
He didn't go back, be knows that Grisha will see his memories so he knows that Grisha will see what Eren is telling him in that moment, while traveling through the memories in the pathsverse. He's the one who convinced Grisha to kill Frieda and the children but he did so in this chapter for the first time. Grisha in the past saw it thanks to the attack titan being able to see future memories. And there's an inception fuckery where Eren finds out about the future by getting Grisha's past memories like all the shifters do, thanks to Grisha having witnesses what will happen in the future with the attack titan.
Erens gonna touch Ymir and see the first Titan and start the Attack Titan Vow.
>eren is a leftist fighting imperialism and colonialism
>by trying to restore an empire that ruled and colonised the entire world
Then why did Grisha had a change of heart and told Zeke to stop Eren? Why did he inject the serum to child Eren then?
Is Grisha ok with Eren's plan?
She is hella lesbian with YMir.
We don't know Eren's intentions, but if he chooses to save anyone, he weakens his position in the future. He has sacrificed too much and keeps WALKING FORWARD, not going back. It'd be the best example of how far off the rails he's gone at this point in time.
>Grisha
Eren only showed him convenient memories. He's just a pawn.
*head explodes*
HE CHANGE DA THINGY THAT HE DIDN'T CHANGE BECAUSE IF CHANGING DAT THING THEN IT WOULDN'T CHANGE WHAT WAS SUPPOSE TO BE CHANGED TO CHANGE THE CHANGE.
I'm not trying to make fun of you, but that's literally how you sound. This is why time shit shouldn't be introduced into writing.
You're mentally ill. People's choices shaped this. Not just Eren playing god you retard.
Yeah, I think that's likely gonna be it, he got what he saw wrong, and will end causing it by his recklessness.
Pieck in the bottom left
>EH IS DEAD
>Farmer-kun won
Finally
Did Hisu saw shit through paths too? she has the same thousand yard stare.
Wouldn't surprise me if she knows that Eren instigated her sisters death
Was that also Eren plotting?
you really take this too seriously, newfag. go back to readin man cause you ain't got any comprehension either. just because the world understandably fears eldians and wants them gone doesnt mean countergenocide is the answer or a good way to make peace. life is precious and should be treated as such
To you, 2,000 years after
Perhaps, but in Eren's mind he controls everything, which will be his downfall I'm sure. His arrogance. I just don't believe Eren will be the winner at the end of all this, and if he is than I'll be really impressed.
Ymir literally can't do that though.
Historia isn't a lesbian user
>hella
Did it make sense tho?
She shouldn't care either way.
But she looked fine after that and she knew Karls cuckism was dangerous for Paradis
user, it's me the future (you), I need you to stop being a lazy ass, also don't read Shingeki no Kyojin, and the cat..w...d
>Eren fights against post colonialist rhetoric used to enslave the ancestors of people who "supposedly" were colonialists
Yeah he sounds like a neonazi to me not like a leftist.
What if the reason his wishes don't come true is because Eren somehow destroys the coordinate and Ymir?
Well, he's not wrong. This is how deterministic time theory works. There's no freedom at all and even the characters who believe they are changing something, are just acting accordance to the natural flow in the first place.
eren doesn't care about the eldians, he only cares about his own (and whoever is close to him, mikasa, armin, the rest of the 104, etc) freedom
Is there any character that can defeat Eren Yeager? And I'm not talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager. Hell, I'm not even talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager after ingesting the Yoroi no Kyojin serum and having practiced his hardening abilities with Hange and the Survey Corps. I couldn't be talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yaeger using Porco Galliard as a nutcracker to destroy the Sentsui no Kyojin crystal so he can consume Ms. Tybur and gain precise creation abilities. I'm NOT talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager commanding a group of loyal followers who have dedicated their lives to fulfilling Eren's dream of finally setting his people free and ensuring the safety of generations to come. Do you think I'm talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager after going fully nuclear and telling Mikasa he's hated her his entire life and beating the shit out of Armin because they're both just slaves who refuse to accept freedom and try to get in the way of his true, eternal freedom? You better be joking if you think I'm talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager after being ambushed by the surviving members of the Senshi-tai, effectively fighting off both Reiner and Porco at the same time and even taking on Reiner, solo, after eating two direct headshots from an anti-titan sniper rifle. I'm definitely not talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager surviving after being decapitated by top Senshi-tai candidate, Gabi Braun, and still moving forward to enact his master keikaku. You better ban me if you think I'm talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager walking Zeke through Grisha's PATHS memories so he can see the error of his ways and come around to the belief that life is worth living. I'm talking about Shingeki no Kyojin Eren Yeager becoming the Devil himself, willing to destroy the entire world, and manipulating those around him in order to protect his lover, Historia Reiss, so that his child can be born free into this world.
Possibly go into labor immediately.
But maybe dies along with her baby, if Isayama is really going full suffering route.
Eren looked pretty desperate.
He's the one who sent them Dina you brainlet
10/10
I especially enjoy the theories that the "freedom seeking" trait of the attack titan is just Erens autism manifesting throughout all the ages.
She didn't know Eren forced his father to kill her sister
She can't, but whatever gave her her powers can
>T-this scenery
Grisha has to continue the plan because it already happened.
Sieg is the only who could "stop" Eren, but based on the future Eren saw, Sieg is bound to fail.
you need to add the future shit into this
>of the world being destroyed
>taking everything you're told at surface value
pathetic
He'll win. He may die in the process, but he will secure a future for Eldians. Even at the cost of everyone else's. There is nothing arrogant about that. He just doesn't want to get genocided.
what the fuck are you even talking about, Owl never had the founding titan
She looked fine after Eren saw all that shit not after the time skip so it may have happened off screen
BASADO
So why even debate this shit at this point? Now that time theory and shit has been introduced to the series, it's pointless to discuss what will happen. Only the author knows what will actually happen. For the fans this is all speculation and theorycrafting. Nobody is right in this thread.
This man is literally SO ANGRY that he warped all of space and time to kill absolutely everything
And with that he gave Paradis a chance to defend themselves
Hell yeah.
Yeah, Eren supported YH because it also supports EM.
Yes they are.
hella hell yeah
Call me stupid, but did Eren manipulate Porco's memories to make him sacrifice himself instead of Reiner?
So that Reiner was alive to make up the time for Gabi to pick up the rifle and shoot him?
Eren did not choose to send the memories to grisha. Grisha gained the memories from Eren because of zeke looking into the past. Grisha had the advancing giant so his ability to see the future allowed him to interact with them more and his blood line connection and titan connection to Eren made the influence stronger.
If Grisha did not have the advancing giant and Eren was not in paths this couldn't have occurred.
I was hoping someone autistic enough would come up with a copypasta for this, so congrats.
use PATHS to send back memories to Ymir 2000 years ago telling her to activate the rumbling through time after he dies
I love time theories and time travel plots.
I'm having a field day with this chapter.
stupid
The winner makes history, that's how it's always been, and its well portrayed in the manga. He wins therefore he's in the right.
I gotta figure out how to get it in the character limit. We're going with this until tomorrow.
No, Zeke already said it, Eren barely knows anything, just glimpses.
>> theories about EREN being the father
>> The ship sunk with the last chapter
What went wrong EHBros?????!!
It's over
typical leftie slide of hand à la
>if you want white nationalism it must mean you're a white supermacist
show me where eren admits or suggests a countergenocide and not just restoration of his nation
>Eren made Levi choose Armin over Erwin
Nah, it's not that specific.
Kek
eren wants to kill all his enemies over there, wants to enact the rumbling, and doesn't care about life. he wants everyone dead, speedreading newfag.
>zeke is now following grisha's commands
the irony
I probably have an easier time with this chapter because I read Dies Irae and this is textbook Mercurius/Foreknowledge.
Eren's rage autism is literally fucking with space and time
I lied. It'll just be until the next thread.
sounds familiar
yeah, via 3rd party retard
Dina did not meet Owl ever and Owl only seen Dina when she was titanised
and eren is acting exactly like grisha by using zeke, his own family, for his selfish reasons.
>Eren made Pixis an alcoholic
not a single time eren went about a rant over muh edian empire, he couldn't give less of a fuck about that, he specifially say on this chapter that he will kill anyone that dares to try take away his freedom, nothing more, nothing less
She's literally possessed by the first king, retard.
nice false flag mancasashit
stop copeposting, samefag
user, she's brainwashed.
I don't think Eren had anything to do with most of the stuff that happened, but it would be funny if he were the one who kept saving Reiner's ass every time just so he could suffer more.
This was a kino chapter that doesn't debunk or confirm anything and we are actually participing in the discussion.
so you can kill yourself already, EMcuck
Never read it, author?
kys
>Eren made Marie chose Nile
>eren never talked about the eldian empire
most nationalists don't care about that sort of thing. The main motivation of nazis is to protect their loved ones from outsiders. Which is why they are called "xenophobic."
seething
wrong and also wrong.
121 is the third chapter of volume 3.
Isayamas editor said 2 months ago that the manga will end in about a year, which would be summer 2020.
32 or 33 volumes are more realistic.
I wasn't reccing it. It's just a Chuuni VN from some dude named Masada. It just happened to ease me into time-travel loop discussions.
>the EMfujo and her falseflagging still at it
Sad
But Zeke says that Eren showed something to Grisha, and Eren refers to that as "that scenery"
>nation
>empire
brainlet
*of volume 30
based chapter. eren will win in the end
Don't worry, most of us real EHfags already accepted that EH was killed in this chapter.
nazis did talk about muh greater europe, if they were as much of freedomfags as eren each of the would have rejected submiting to any kind of rule, even hitler's
nice argument retard
Which means he knows her and knows she's royal blood so if he wanted to he could have touched anytime. Plus you don't know if he never met her to begin with
Eren shared his memories with his father in a similar way that him and historia shared their memories. Through brief interactions that instantly flooded them. Nothing about the language implies it was some sort of keikaku by Eren to share his memories with his father.
Oh, I was gonna ask if it was similar to slaughterhouse 5 in the premise.
Perfect 10th anniversary
>Eren killed his own mother
Based
Yeah it's really funny how all the EHfags crawled back into their holes. I bet they won't be spamming their delusions as much this month. And after we again get more Eren mass murdering, they will quietly leave forever. They know they're time is up and EH is dead.
Some of them did care about that. But the vast majority of nazis and neonazis motivations lied in protecting their loved ones.
In a similar way to how some of the jaegerists talk about the great eldian empire.
He didn't need to have a child for that, then. Historia was right there, the whole time, and actually not actively trying to euthanize her own race unlike the other last royal alive. But for whatever reason she was a no-go all these years and clearly still isn't as long as Zeke is alive.
>Eren told Gross how to make life interesting
But Eren has obeyed other peoples commands. He's obeyed Erwin, levi, armin, the military and even historia. Being free doesn't necessarily mean never taking orders.
probably abort or go into labor but the child, most likely, won't surive
yeah we know that she never met him because she was tortured and if she met him he would have been captured
Also Owl only knew that coordinate had special power activated by royal blood
he did not know that his titan did
Eren says to Zeke "you didn't see how I ate father". He must have done something in that span of time
I think we'll see that in the next chapter
I'm lowkey hoping Hitch survives this mayhem
>Eren gave Zackly the idea of the shit-machine
zeke didn't see the full memories, there's more to it
He kept touching her after that and saw more. He had also changed a lot between the ceremony and the ocean. But the Yelena meeting/railroad ceremony/two months between the 108 fb and the ceremony sure did something. Was it some particular event or more memories being unlocked?
We can assume it's the same way he force Grisha to kill the royal family.
>Eren made Oluo bite his tongue
You brainlets. Eren got the future memories when He kissed Hisu's hand. That was long after Annie went on her rampage.
Soo....... Is eren actually going to destroy the world or he is doing everything in order to create the weirdest,coolest and greatest "zero requiem" ever in order to save eldians and freed them from both the titan powers and their anchestor's faults?
>Eren made Keith bald
can any Mod ban this EH for been so retarded?
>We know Armin is the narrator so he won't win in the end.
That assumes either that Armin wouldn't survive Eren's plan, or that Isayama didn't choose him be the narrator for some other reason (e.g. Armin chronicled Eren's history for future generations to read). This doesn't guarantee that Eren will fail, or that Armin has be the one to stop him.
I love it. He was /my ragetard/ from the first second on.
>Eren came up with Zeke's special ass wiping technique
Plot twist: the Attack Titan has memory manipulation powers. It makes sense that the Founding Titan has the special power of every Titan combined but no other titan has memory manipulation. The Attack Titan has no apparent physical specialization because it's the titan with memory manipulation. At first Eren and Zeke were peeking at real memories but then Eren started using his powers to mess up the memories and weave a web of lies so that Zeke would do whatever he wants. Half of everything in the latest chapter was fake.
Technically he could have done that by telling Grisha to warn him by telling him the future memories, but it can be said for basically anything that's happened, he could have changed everything provided he really wanted, given Grisha would listen and then rely the info the Eren in his time line. But there's the usual paradox when you fuck with time travel, about how things that happened cannot be undone and are meant to happen which is bullshit anyway.
Wouidn't Eren's mother surviving create a paradox, since her death was one of Eren's major motivators to end up the way he did?
>Eren blocked Mikasa's estrogen
Eren is the reason why all Eldians need to die, his rage autism is proving everyone right about eldians being devils. Killing a million Eldians is justified to prevent one Eren.
In the last page it says that when Ymir starts doing something it can't be stopped. How is that actually a problem? Just let it happen then ask Ymir to undo it.
>ymir snaps her fingers, all eldians are sterile
"hey please undo that"
>ymir snaps her fingers, all eldians are fertile
They should also ask to give every Eldian girl bigger tits, no reason to waste a good opportunity.
>They should also ask to give every Eldian girl bigger tits, no reason to waste a good opportunity.
lel
If that were a banneable offense, you'd be gone already
btw i'm a mod :^)
Yes
Him not being able to do that makes sense depending on how exactly time travel works this way. If Eren told any of the past attack titan holders to change anything at all it could cause a butterfly effect where he never kissed Hisu's hands which means he would never even have the opportunity to send Memories to the past in the first place. That other user is right. The way I understand Eren's powers, he can't really change the future at all. The future was always predetermined to happen the way it's already happening. It's a closed loop, a self fulfilling prophecy.
Speedreader.
What if in the AoT universe past, present and future simultaneously happen?
>Eren is literally going to exterminate them
No, Eren is going to exterminate non-Eldians and any Eldians not inside the city.
>die out peacefully
Forcible sterilization is considered a human rights violation for a reason. It's still genocide.
So basically Story is "repeating cycle" theory is confirmed?
Rumbling and Sterelization will both happen, genociding most of the world?
Does that mean Historias child is the Ymir and she would inherit titan powers creating Eldia once again?
What a bummer of a story holy fuck.
Founder Ymir!!
please give me a big mac combo
it's like that Dark tv show
There is a popular theory that the 3 eye raven is playing 5 D backgammon Just like the attacktitan is