Why was Vegeta redeemed...

>actions are only wrong if they are punished by the legal system
You don't seem to understand why laws exist in the first place.

>If it ain't Earth it ain't murder. Unless you think Earth law has jurisdiction over the universe.
This make sense if you forget that Jaco The Galctic Patrolman exists and he said that kind of Law exists

I'm saying it's not wrong because they weren't human. They were just some random alien race that doesn't matter.
It's not murder if there's no one to call it murder.

What's he say about being under the rule of a ruthless dictator that destroyed your own race and is holding the last remains as a hostage?

>killing a member of a humanoid species is OK because there's no law that specifically states for killing them to be WRONG, ethics aren't a thing by the way
Friendly reminder that earth shelters flying rats and talking dinosaurs. I somehow doubt for them to treat "aliens" any different to local freaks. How even tell the difference?

>What's he say about being under the rule of a ruthless dictator that destroyed your own race and is holding the last remains as a hostage?
it's not doing anyhing for stopping it.
Frieza was accused by the Galactic King to be a dictator. He tried to stop Frieza but he was stronger than his men

he killed Danzou, but oldie deserved it anyway for being incompetent with his eyes

Technically he suicided before Tobi was gonna kill him. So no, he didn't.

>Reading comprehension ayy lmao
Humans only give a shit about other humans unless you're one of those PETA freaks. Humans barely give a shit about other humans who aren't a part of their nation and even then they only people they care about are ones that look like them and that live similar lives.

If the galactic King can't stop him what is one grunt going to do. Die and change nothing other than letting his own race get wiped out?

Think like this way
U7 is practically equivalent of Africa, where the law belong to strongest man

Didnt he destroy the city he landed on?

He also killed the people at the Satan's Tournament and when he landed on earth

That was more not stopping suicide

Vegeta was a slave

>Vegeta was a slave
that decided to kill.
And killed even when he freed himself from Frieza.
That's why the Nameks he killed couldn't be ressurected: it applied only on Frieza's slaves

>designed to kill
>omg he killed people that is bad

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because toriyama has been shitting on his own canon since the introduction of saiyans.

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what does this have to do with anything?
I am asking why does redemption works for a genocider

i'd rather have my life saved by a repentant murderer than saved by nobody at all, wouldn't you? what good is justice if millions more die as a direct consequence?

>what good is justice if millions more die as a direct consequence?
But Vegeta keep killing even after having saved everyone, he get angry and he kill everyone

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Intelligent, Nihilistic and a wicked sense of humor

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News Flash: All of human history is full of what you would consider genocide. What "Genocide" really means is
>I had to kill you and everyone like you so that me and everyone like me can have those things, land and resources that your alien culture was previously sitting on.

Also, you're moralizing pretty hard. What does him genociding the Nameks have to do with anything? It has nothing to do with his redemption arc, or with any of the characters that befriend him aside from maybe Piccolo.

>Hurr Durr Saiyans have a stake in the Namek race
Yeah, okay.

As shit as Super is it has been making Vegeta actually heroic now. Between him and Goku he's the only one trying to end fights quickly and reduce the danger and has shown actual regret for his actions. That sacred ointment Piccolos been giving him has worked wonders

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>Moral subjectivist
hmm

OP is discussing morals so obviously he would be moralizing pretty hard

Vegeta's redemption arc last from the end of the saiyan saga till the end of the buu saga

Super Vegeta is fucking pathetic

So was Piccolo. Tien was an assassin, and Yamcha was a thief who robbed and killed people. Most of the dragon ball characters were assholes at one point but a big theme in the series is that redemption is possible. Now stop being retarded, Tardkufag.

that was Nappa

I will add that he also killed Captain Ginyu during the resurrected Freiza story arc.

>that was Nappa
But when Vegeta was Majin Vegeta he killed the people at the stadium

I miss tsundere Vegeta instead of hero Vegeta.

>News Flash: All of human history is full of what you would consider genocide. What "Genocide" really means is
>>I had to kill you and everyone like you so that me and everyone like me can have those things, land and resources that your alien culture was previously sitting on.
Vegeta literally killed the Namek for the Dragon Balls and genocided alien races for selling their planets

>Vegeta's redemption arc last from the end of the saiyan saga till the end of the buu saga
But does that justify commiting a genocide?

If they just gave Vegeta the dragonballs then he wouldnt have traveled to Namek and killed the Namekians

At least that Vegeta stopped to be a killer, this make him having a lovely family believable

Has anyone who suffered Vegeta during his Freeza soldier days ever come back seeking revenge on him?

>So was Piccolo. Tien was an assassin, and Yamcha was a thief who robbed and killed people. Most of the dragon ball characters were assholes at one point but a big theme in the series is that redemption is possible. Now stop being retarded, Tardkufag.
Are you comparing stealing and killing few people with commiting a genocide of entire species?

>Has anyone who suffered Vegeta during his Freeza soldier days ever come back seeking revenge on him?
If they got enought power to kill God Vegeta yes

>morals are real
He does what he wants with what he is designed with. No one cares about your kikey morality and the confusion it brings.

You faggots never let go.

>your race bad forget it we wuz humans just move on brooooo
>oh oh remember that genocide even though you've changed since then yeah you need to atone
kys

>Why is killing people bad? I'm so confused

>>oh oh remember that genocide even though you've changed since then yeah you need to atone
Do you think that justify commitng mass murder?
Do you believe your actions don't have consequences?
Do you think a Dictator that genocided people can be redeemed?
Do you think Kim Jong Un can be redeemed?
Do you think a genocider is redeemed because he think he is and that erase the fact he commited genocides?

The worst thing was what Bulma did, it has nothing to do with cuckolding because her and Yamcha were no longer in couple and it was Yamcha who cheated with other chicks.

The problem was that she fucked and was impregnated by the guy who came to destroy humanity and who is pretty much responsible for the death and aggravated injuries of most Z fighters, this is just fucking immoral of associating with a person like that.

Bulma was hot for sayian dick and Goku was already taken

being lustful and immoral is Bulma's defining trait as a parody of the chaste and virtuous monk Tang Sanzang. she only cares about saving the world because she lives there

“Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds” - Scientist

he didn't start saving lives until after he stopped killing

>was Yamcha who cheated with other chicks.
The only "proof" we have of that is Mirai Trunks words. Maybe it happened offscreen.
But if that was true then Yamcha should have a girl at this point, and he doesn't.
Bulma was just wet for a murderous genocider because it gave her the "Vegetable Fever" of not knowing what he would do to her and that he was brutal and savage with her and had a boss personality, the opposite of Yamcha that was a sweet guy that loved her for what she was and always tried to cheer her up

Vegeta was redeemed simply because Toriyama and the fans liked him. There is no other explanation. You can reason that in-universe he was given a second chance and was on okay terms with the protagonists on Namek, which gave him a foothole to growing as a person and ultimately setting him on the path of redemption, but none of that shit matters. Toriyama liked him, the fans liked him, and they wanted him as a protagonist, so he redeemed himself. The only true difference between his and other redemption arcs is that he isn't a fucking bitch about his actions in the past.

>he didn't start saving lives until after he stopped killing
In the Ressurection of Frieza he killed Ginyu

All women would have made the same choice as Bulma. Women love serial killers, rapists, drug deals and other "bad boys". Is this news to anyone?

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Tone

That would mean Bulma has the most powerful pussy in existence.

They said in BotG that he was redeemed (able to join in the SSG ritual) because he has risked his live to save the planet many times.

>How does Bulma decide to marry such a monster?
Are they married?

>As a proud member of the NAZI party I shall make these weapons that will result in the deaths of countless people, BUT I will not be responsible for those deaths.
user, they made those weapons and knew what they were going to be used for.

Obviously it's not the same thing but every single saiyan except for Goku was the same way. They were all space pirates who wiped out planets and sold the leftovers. So if you're an equal opportunist then you should also hate characters like Bardock, Nappa & Raditz.

>He is a killer and a genocider that commited a canon genocide on the Nameks and on a planet we saw in his first appearence and eaten the habitants and made a non-canon genocide on the Bug Planet Arlia!
A true hero by japanese standards, the real shadow MC.