Why is reverse isekai the only good isekai?
Isekai and isekai accessories
isekai is so nauseatingly bad that the only way to have chance to make something good out of it is reversing the very basic concept
And I posted the wrong page
Fuck me
What manga is that?
Well I hope you die from nausea then.
Any isekai can be good isekai user. Isekai is a blank canvas for literary artists to hone their craft upon.
Why are isekai moms always so hot?
Native isekai moms are hotter
Isekai WAS good long long ago before it got spammed and was twisted to appeal only to NEETs and virgins.
Escaflowne was good. Konosuba is not.
Cringe.
>Escaflowne was good
It was pretty, nothing particularly good about it.
>Konosuba
Eh they could've done a better job of adaptation and novels go down the drain lately but it's still one of the best comedy isekais out there.
>appeal only to NEETs and virgins.
Thank capitalism: industry caters to those who pay the most.
>virgins
>using virgin offensively on Yea Forums
>40% of japs over older than 25 are virgins nowadays
You didn't think your post through did you?
Shirley is for being femdom'ed by while her daughters watch
Fuck off mino nobody wants ESL smut wank.
Minotaur never lied about anything. He just wanted others to experience the joy and frustration of writing.
>OMG ESCAFLOWNE IS A CLASSIC BECAUSE ITS OLD
>want to write
>don't want to write
>want to write
>start writing
>come up with new idea
>really like new idea
>start to write new idea
>come up with new idea
>really like new idea
the cycle never ends.
Yeah, looks like vol 4 is for the LN of Otome Mob is going to be totally different from WN. Illustrations came out. Not sure how I feel about the change in regards to Noel, considering she was more mindbroken in the WN.
Wait, Marie and Leon have settled their difference?
Suimei is back in October
And then there's Native Isekai Dindu Nuffin
>tfw this got axed
Only good Korean otome isekai
>Koei Tecmo had previously registered trademarks for an "Isekai Musou"
>Still no updates
Who would you want in?
just make the prince the main character already,
I want gacha to stop killing series
Kind of. I recall in the WN vol 4 is when they officially make up. She becomes a lot more likable from all those events, since you see her more responsible side.
My wife of course!
Why is she wearing undersized clothes? Is she very poor or not very bright?
>musou
Isn't that just a straight forward button masher with a shit ton of npcs? you can't fight each other right.
Would be better if they added skill trees.
She was forced to wear them because of peer pressure!
Fuck I used the old one
It feels so cheap that she did everything off-page.
I wrote 469 words today, minotaur!
What a sheep!
Livia and Angie YES.
I'd struggle to find two female character designs more bland than these. They should get new illustrator.
Go away Marie. You're never getting your big brother back.
She literally did nothing at all. It's literally just
>bibliophile read books
>random citizen: Huh, what is she reading?
>read her books: Gasp! Why didn't I think of that before? She's a genius!
Is this what otome is like? I never read anything with female MC.
Not all
Bibliophile is the exception
bibliophile stands out because they essentially made a background character the protagonist without remembering to take them out of the background
The problem I have with SPL is that I can't figure out whether I want Rachel, Alexandra or Martina to step on me more.
Is it me or Shirley seems bigger than before?
If only she was still pure.
I think the LN artist got a memo after v1 that Shirley is canonically big.
Do you think her hymen got regenerated as well
The hymen being broken is a meme.
>Typical Otome
>Actively do alot of things to achieve an end goal
>random stuff happened as a result because of her actions
>Bibliophile
>Read books all day everyday
>meanwhile lots of stuff happened behind the scenes but let's just focus on Bibliophile reading books all day everyday just because.
I want to abort Margeret's fetus with my knee if she ever gets pregnant
Reminder that Shirley will have to see her kids grow old and die whilst she remains ageless!
Why are there no space/scifi isekai? Or old west isekai? Or steampunk isekai? Why is it always a generic medieval fantasy world?
There are, there are, and there are. You just don't know where to look.
Do they have anime adaptations?
>space/scifi isekai
There are a lot of things but they're rare because these settings are significantly harder to flesh out than your default litrpg Dragon Quest clone.
>Why are there no space/scifi isekai?
Because it doesn't fit the theme of the current trend, it would require a drastic restructure of either the scifi story, or the isekai story. That isn't to say there aren't any, but they aren't really so much apart of the current trend.
>Or old west isekai?
Japan has never been that big on the old west, it's mainly an american interest. If anything they are more interested in it than one would expect.
>Or steampunk isekai?
Steampunk is dead.
Reminder that literally everything has been done on syosetu in some form or another.
All scifi is isekai user. They're always going to other worlds!
Everything in general has been done before in some way. It's the execution of the ideas that's always been unique and the only part that matters.
Doesn’t matter, she took dick so she’s used trash.
>Girl shiro
Want to see Junpei BTFO Hajime while spouting edgier lines.
>go from worst girl to best girl
There is literally nothing more kino
Literally made for disgusting fat noble cock.
Clean version
Rimuru is the strongest with his bullshit time and interdimensional travel right? Makoto, Fuuka, and Ainz are up there too as essentially living gods.
I can only hope that my wife gets doujins like those.
Which one inherits her autism?
Tio, probably, since she inherits her retard strength as well.
>want to give the audience some control over what happens in the story but not sure how much
anyone have good examples of CYOA writing?
Why did the Prince tap that then decided to nope out? Too autistic?
Because he's a Prince. It's hard to find a Prince that isn't stupid. And if they aren't stupid, they're usually the sort who falls in love with the reincarnator in villainess body.
>stupid for no reason
I hate that shit.
How does the kingdom even survive?
He was already planning to betray her, he just decided to have a go before throwing her to the wolves the very next day.
As to why he did; he only ever took her in because he had a god complex, and wanted someone to treat him like a saviour. And she did, but the problem was that she became way too competent and he felt emasculated.
When you add her sister's mind influencing magic, the lies about how she was tormenting her sister and the fact that that none of the nobles wanted to back her up since they think she's the literal reincarnation of fantasy Spartacus. Also, the Emperor, Empress and Princess (who were her main allies) were away on an inspection so they chose that time to fuck with her.
Darn. The emperor being away for an inspection and the prince doing stupid shit is becoming a common trope.
At least she didn't end up partying it up in jail.
Also her sister is (was) pretty hot, even if she's fucking half the nobles in the Empire.
I thought all the court ladies fucked every official with any power?
She's not just a court lady, she became Empress.
>Literally fuck her way up into becoming an Empress
Slut Queen
They fall in love with the villainess.
Read The Wandering Inn.
Villainess is a vital resource to a country. You need a steady supply every year.
You mean every generation minimum
who's the lad at the back?
are the ln/wn translations good?
Me.
I am pretty sure eye colour inheritance doesn't work like that.
MILF Hunter Goblin Slayer Jr. And yeah, they're pretty good.
Might be possible with chimerism?
>But what does she mean by the Spirits’ Round Table? Is it like the Knights of the Round Table or something? So be it then, I’ll just be the Connecticut Yankee to your round table!
astrid is a patrician isekai reader
>impregnated her with twins on the first go
Very nice.
>original D&D archetype slimes are encounters that will fuck up newbie adventurers hard
>thanks to Dragon Quest slimes are regarded as lv1 newbie village mobs
From what I remember the WN is translated fairly well, and the guy at the back is a younger boy who's working to put some more babies in that single mother. The daughters know that he has the hots for their mom and they actively encourage it
I never understood why an enemy that has no organs or bones you can damage is considered weak fodder compared to some shit-tier goblin.
The twins are against it though, aren't they? They're super protective of their mom.
Shirley is completely and utterly oblivious though and sonzones him.
> and sonzones him.
hot
It's been a while so I can't remember, but I want to think that the twins warm up to him over time.
At least some manga have slimes as magically immune creatures.
Taking on a lich with a slime is so satisfying.
Eventually he will be old enough to look like her in age.
damn. I was expecting ara-aras for all parties involved but I'll read it anyways since the TLs are actually readable.
Getting cucked must count as a pasttime for Angie by this point.
Leon ditches these broads for Marie and cucks the 5 stooges when?
That route is already past. Fun fact is that if you buy the LN and do a survey, you get part two for the Marie route.
Other way around from the images based upon Leon has to deal with these two while he is away from Angie and Livia.
Is Leon gay? Why hasn't he fucked any of these whores?
he's not gay, he's just japanese
No. They have threesome last arc tho
>VIII.2 (in the basilica); 1882: The one who buggers a fire burns his penis
>ctrl+f
>no sword dad
>no fran
fuck
also mismatched eyes a shit
New Bertia is out
>Sword Dad
That was flavor of the month shit.
Like actual threesome or did he just let them kiss and spoon him while he laid there?
>and kuma bear or handyman saitou or even fucking gyarus that made it to aren't
I do wonder if there is the possibilty of sci-fi
or is this just a lazy genre and nobody will ever bother doing it?
Bertia-sama a cute! CUTE!
>implying we wouldn't still be talking about it if it was being translated at the same pace.
A translator dropping a project then someone terrible replacing them months later is a great way to kill discussion.
Why did she even try to harass bertia? was it just jealousy that she did it?
Lotm
Her fiancee was into Bertia.
To that user from the last thread.
Fuck, you were right. It does get worse.
Sadly, no update to Guild Cheat Receptionist manga.
Real talk tho Bertia is one of the uglier otome MCs. Best looking is probably Camilla or Iris.
Which series
Villainess Noble Girl Isekai pastebin
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I took genuine offense to those words you just typed, and I'd appreciate an apology.
Read The Wandering Inn.
...
I do but they're all carried on the authors sheer skill alone.
Is it even isekai?
tell me them.
It is, but don't bother with it.
already posted that freindo
The manga only has 8 chapters. Where can i fill this void in my heart?
Look up planefag on suptg.
Read the LNs duh.
Can't they just execute this dumb bitch?
Reminder that this girl fucks.
Today's first chapter was pretty good. That wasn't how I was expecting him to cheat.
Fake news. She just slept with them. They didn't penetrate. She's still a virgin.
Can you give the manga name plz sir I am a phonefag
Talk about delusion. She's used good in both lifetimes. Nothing will change that.
>why isn't this alternate reality working like my handheld video game?
the unfortunate reality of Isekai, the only ones who get to go to other worlds are the ones too incompetent to do anything there
Fake news.
Death is too good and quick for a bitch like her
I want to believe.
Anal virgin? Maybe
She had a kid and fail marriage in her previous lifetime. In this one she wants and gets the train run on her and is able to take it since she has experience from the last time.
You should check back. The new translator got an editor or something, it's now a lot better. Not quite as good as the old translator but maybe 85% of the way there? Well above MTL garbage at least.
Those faggots probably got in bed with her and probably said something like "no I can't defile your body you're too precious blah blah blah lets get married first"
Me on the left.
Why are you guys pairing Leon with literally his isekai'd bitchy Sister. And she's loliew too
They both have shitty luck. I like it.
>cute girl is actually an isekai'd T-rex
Ok, I'm sold.
It's still worse than the tentacle, and far slower. Well not that the tentacle would be that much faster right now, as in the last month they released ten chapters of demon lord and monster girls, to the 6 sword dad chapters that were translated. But they were just finishing up school and moving, and are apparently now going to start working in an industry known for overworking.
She is the only one proactive enough to rape his lazy ass.
>Leon
>Marries the Heroine and Villainess
>Shitty luck
What?
Feelsbad. I really liked Olivia and Angel, why do none of these MCs have balls.
Something something leon keeps getting thrown into life-or-death battles and shit and his plans to retire to the countryside and live the easy life srtay father away from him.
WHAT IF
>Shounen Isekai protagonist
vs
>Shoujo Isekai villainess
How would a series, with all its cliches and things turn out? I imagine MC-kun would be extremely weirded out by the limp-wristed, effeminate male while MC-chan'd probably be jealous of the busty harem.
Doesn't he eventually make a new royal family with livia and angie?
They're readable and they're still faster than Death Mage chapters. I'm not going to bitch too hard about free fan work not being top of the line. I mean, I'm oldfag enough I remember some of the really bad subs from back in the VHS days. Think MTL only it's not even Google Translate, it's some college guy with a best-guess script transcribed from the audio and a Japanese-English dictionary. I watched half of Slayers Try with subs of that quality. Compared to that, the new translations of Sword Dad are crystal clear.
Otome isekai, but the prince who is getting targeted in a weeb, and the two girls, the heroine and villainess are far more normal, they just liked the game.
So you got two bitches thinking they're chasing prince charming, and prince charming being a social recluse loser who tries to put an act on for the story.
MC also has a side character as his waifu who is unfortunately already married, so he just worships her from a distance to the two girls dismay.
No one knows anyone else is isekai'd
Lmao i only read the manga which is up to ch 8. I guess I'll start reading since i know I won't be blue balled.
He is the one who chooses to play the hero in those situations.
The truth is that he wants to help people but he is too much of an autist to admit it so he pretends to not care till he finds a convenient excuse to get involved.
>Me searching new isekai
>Always found Isekai+Harem
Why harem?
Wish fulfillment.
Shoujo protag spends all her time in Aristocrat High School tripping over capture flags. Shounen protag collects his battle harem and fucks off to the dungeon to grind loot and levels. A hundred alternating chapters later and the closest they've come is the Shounen Protag briefly visiting the capital city to get his Adventurer Rank S certification test. They have nothing in common, no overlapping acquaintances, and the audience is seriously questioning what the point of the whole gimmick is.
Because honestly it's ridiculous that the western world doesn't buy into polygamy.
This is so accurate it hurts.
Marketing trick picked up from the anime world. If you have just one girl, then the series lives or dies on how popular she is. If you have a whole stable of girls, each with a unique collection of quirks and fetish traits, then it's very likely a reader will find at least one they favor. Then they'll buy her merch and stick around for the episodes that spotlight her and root for her to win over the other girls, and you've got them hooked.
The Waifu Showcase is a powerful tool for building an audience.
t.virgin
>planefag
Yeah okay, like the part where he spergs out repeatedly and tries to trash another quest in public only to make himself look like a total buffoon.
The entire board of /qst/ is based on player driven stories. It's also filled with shit.
I wrote the next 3 chapters to it and I haven't published it yet even though it's been a month because I'm afraid of how my readers would think of slice of life. Even though basically no one is reading it. Fuck my life
I forgot that board even existed.
I think I haven't read a quest ever since they got removed from /tg/. The last ones I can remember was a Star Wars one and one where the aussie MC was basically a mob character who lived in an unholy amalgamation of generic anime.
If you are going to publish your shit, then for the love of God make sure you have enough chapters already written to sit on your ass for a year and that you only publish them like once per week.
I tried to give this warning to every writefag because I have seen people go in full of motivation and shit out 15 chapters per week only to run out of steam, go into hiatus and never come back.
You've missed very little. Arguably the only thing worth reading coming from that board are Lamplighter and Court of Swords after Ouro finished Snakecatcher. Unfortunately neither of them are finished, like almost everything there.
When I become King, im gonna legalize incest and hold a royal holiday incest festival in the capital every year on my birthday
it won't happen for a long time and they'll go through 3 games worth of misadventures before it happens.
People didn't learn anything from the Hasburgs.
>no iris the dookie daughter
>no jk hooker haru
>no michio from slave harem
>kagome & yamcha & saito
>but no tsukasa from .hack//sign or kirito from SAO
>Naofumi
>But no Kitamura who gets isekai'd into mutliple time loops while in an isekai
>no michio from slave harem
That could even be two versions, one for day or night. Night wouldn't be very effective against many of those.
Michio at night has [sex fiend] job.
I think it might work on some of the girls.
Too high status to fuck Olivia. Too low status to fuck Angie.
Unfair isn't it?
Have to seal the deal if the marriage is to count.
Does he get special permission to marry them even with his court rank at the time?
Angie and Livia both agreed to it behind Leon's back and was able to get their families' support.
Channel your inner kamachi
>imouto got addicted to notInternet/notYoutube
just like in real life
Ok pseudo writers, where do you write?
Do you use pastebins or have dedicated blogs for your garbage?
He hates her, she hates him and my dick is erect.
RoyalRoad is a pretty nice platform for westernshit, some writefags uploaded their stuff there.
Stored in my Google Drive for maximum Quarantine.
The eyes remind me of an h-artist
>Foster mom wants MC to fuck her daughter
>not storing it in a folder with a password hidden in a computer that only you use
Noob
Too much soap.
Michio is Japanese and he fucks all he bitches. Leon just a typical japanese MC.
Typical japanese MC
>girls agreeing to split you evenly between them behind your back
l-Lewd. Like way lewder than actual sex lewd.
What if I'm on a bus and an idea just struck at me?
Gotta put your shit cloud user.
Not enough soap, imouto need to be kept clean.
But cleaning then requires removal of that soap.
I can't come up with a long enough plot line that would be worth writing about.
I really enjoyed writing, and I wrote some scenes from various ideas I had and it was a lot of fun, but coming up with the ideas.
Like, yeah, you can write about a character growing up doing slice of life stuff until they're old enough to tackle the actual story, but what is the story that comes after it?
>run out of ideas to continue
>return to write the previous idea
>run out of ideas to continue
>continue to work on the idea before that
>suddenly have new ideas for the first one
>resume working on it
I always have 6-7 stories going on at the same time. And the cycle does end, eventually.
Do you actually have any stories user? That sounds nice, but I wanna hear some plot synopsis so far for 7 stories
MC gets isekai'd to a medieval fantasy world and basically there is this slave girl except she's got huge boobs. I mean some serious honkers. A real set of badonkers. Packin some dobonhonkeros. Massive dohoonkabhankoloos. Big ol' tonhongerekoogers. What happens next?! Knight girl shows up with even bigger bonkhonagahoogs. Humongous hungolomghononoloughongous.
What would be the point of me listing plot summaries? I don't think it's the idea that really matters, but the execution, and my comment wasn't intended as a lead-in to self-promotion.
Oh no, boxcutter Marie, run for the fucking hills.
No one cares about sci-fi anymore.
okay, then post the content. I'm just curious to see what anons come up with. Don't worry, I won't judge too hard
They're not gonna let him have a go at their mom until he's built like a brick shithouse and they're in their mid twenties.
The woman has access to nine reality marbles and moves faster than the speed of sound, just don't question it.
Sun Ring and Deathgod having female MCs means basically nothing.
Shirley canonically has giga milkers.
She's pretty big in the manga, too.
LotM kinda counts as steampunk since there's literally no fossil fuels in that world and every big piece of tech is powered by steam.
It varies, in JRPGs slimes tend to go from fodder to "oh shit oh fuck" enemies lategame.
*flips coin*
>come in as a dirty unwashed peasant
"Your ID or you can fuck off with your sketchy money"
>come in as Gehrman Sparrow, Jekyl and Hyde in One
"Thank you for your money sir, would you like me to suck your cock sir, sir yes sir"
From this we learn that attitude and the way you dress matters a lot.
The only thing to take away from history is that people don't learn from history.
They agreed to let the man with the doomsday weapon at his beck and call marry them because they didn't want to fucking risk it anymore.
>Shonen Jump
>Kingdom Hearts style world mixup with worlds interacting
>Cast isekai'd into messed up world after strange energy sends a bunch of weebs reading manga into the mixed up world
>evil forces trying to do evil shit or something
>crossover shenanigans
>MC/Cast all get a video game interface for leveling up
>have to select abilities from different animes
>a bunch of wish fulfillment self inserts go on with their favorite anime characters
its the perfect smut, it'll sell billions
I call it, "Shonen Jumped"
Did the prince ever escape her mind control ?
Just watch Tsubasa Chronicles
Considering he's thinking of finding ways to legally get Shirley as his wife again so he can fuck her, probably?
>tfw have over a dozen story concepts that I've fleshed out in daydreams but can't write
I know I should just write something every day as practice but I'm a lazy fucker who'd rather reread otome isekai manga
I might start with the more whimsical "ranged weapon fantasy party". After the introduction the party members all use bows or crossbows, with the tank carrying a mini ballista on his back to aim from behind his shield, causing them to cheese all the fights and get into silly situations.
beans
But he still wants her only as a concubine, so that they can have a heir and Alice can remain as a queen. So, he is still in mind control.
Nah, at this point it's more about reputation than anything, he can't go full Henry the VIII here.
Considering how Alice is now, he might reconsider that.
I want an otome isekai where the MC is a villainess that wants to replace the heroine and gets her raped or does it herself
So some user claimed this shit is ending. Please tell me he's bullshitting.
Go read chinese otome then.
I don't see any signs of that. Author just seems to be taking the usual break between arcs.
I wonder about the LN though, that indeed seems dead.
It's suffering from the same fate as Eliza where despite having otome as a tag it's not exactly what the target audience wants from a otome thing.
Yeah it's a bit a too long for the third volume to come out.
Such a fucking shame. Adventure series with female MC is such a fun thing to read. The otome part is an extra cherry on top.
It's far more otomeish than Eliza, it has a reverse harem and all.
It's not really your standard otome thing, it's more of a adventure thing with a female MC that's nowhere close to girly.
I usually hate Patreon bullshit, but I would pay for these.
>MC isnt a doormat
>interesting male characters whose personality isnt just wanting to rape MC
>world isnt a copypaste of other novels
>MC actively partecipates in the plot instead of going with the flow and running away
>fight with proper descriptions
>villains with real motivations and that can accordingly become allies according to the interests of both
Why are nips such faggots.
Some doormat are okay though. The recent attack by some user on this series hurt me. It wasn't that bad guys. There's worse doormat out there. And yes she's a bit an asspully marry sue, but you should be used to that by now, especially if you like isekashit.
It's true that it isn't that bad, but come on user. She's as doormat as it gets. She didn't even get a single line in like two chapters.
>native isekai
Does reverse native isekai exist? Like where normal people do normal things?
chinese otome doesnt do the otome game thing
The mild annoyance I have with this manga is that the is entirely in the Doormat's POV only. The only time we get to see other characters' POVs when they talk to the Doormat about it or when she actually hear people talking about her.
Re:Creators is the literal definition of Reverse Isekai. When do we get a harem version of it?
I don't mind her being a doormat, but I'd prefer my characters to at least pretend to have agency. I'd honestly have been fine with it if we could have actually seen her do the things that people were praising her for, instead of just being told about it afterward.
The worst thing about this shit is that she end up falling for the prince. If she stayed aloof and don't give a fuck him getting close with the other girl while he desperately tried to make her falls for him, it would be much better.
In other word, give us Maomao as an otome MC.
>Prince finally 'caught' the doormat
>Now he becomes rapey as fuck
Speaking of Cat*2, a new mango chapter is out.
Cute
The Virgin Bibliophile
>Complete doormat
>Does nothing but read books
>Victim of harassment and plots, has to be saved by men
>Has her nice guy fiancee turn rapey because she's too docile
The Chad Wordsmith
>Being a doormat is just a disguise
>Actively goes out and finds material to bring her imagination to the masses
>Enjoys the pitiful attempts people make to harass her, uses it to propel her passions forward
>Even though her fiancee is a nice guy, she casts rapey aspersions on him because it's better material for her novels
>The Becky Bibliophile vs The Stacey Wordsmith
ftfy
This is probably one of the best posts of last dozen isekai threads.
As far as rapey otome MLs go this guy is pretty tame, at least he's not the dude from Lucia who literally just jabs the woman on his cock and wonders why she feels different from all the other women he's fucked while the woman is busy feeling as if she's being stabbed by a spear through her groin.
sauce
It's Marielle
>give us Maomao as an otome MC.
she basically already is, going by the pacing and aesthetics
No other man/woman are pinning for her though. Unless you count the shota she took care of.
I'm manga-only atm, but are you implying it needs to have a reverse harem element?
And even if they meet, for example at a party hosted in the palace or when she sneaks out to visit the city, what could happen? Their lives, values and everything would be too different to get along, not to even mention any romantic relationship.
About the only way the idea could work is if they were two separate stories and we'd only see consequences of their actions affect each other.
Reverse harem no, but it should've have alternate love interest. For either the MC or the male lead.
Why, negro?
It's cute.
Angie's dad is wise enough to see where the wind is blowing. He's doing it for future political gain. Just a bonus it makes his daughter happy. The double marriage was also endorsed by the royal family since the king wanted to screw with Leon. He was tricked by Luxon into being put into a situation where he couldn't wussy his way out without dire consequences.
Luxon best grill confirmed.
>without dire consequences
such as?
Angering his benefactor, burning bridges with the two girls he likes, shaming his family, besmirching his own name, and pretty much fucking over any life he'd have in the kingdom.
>40%
That sounds too high are you memeing?
What now?
surveys on young japanese men and women's opinions show that they believe pursuing hobbies is a more productive use of their time than pursuing human relationships
japanese zoomers are even more averse to sex than any previous generations
I disagree, if not ugly... then it will seem ham-fisted in.
Not learning how to build aircraft using the superior time-travelers guide in case you are in a fantasy world.
Scee these sluts, show me some ilustrations of the queen.
She is best girl and the MC must marry her.
Lampoon.
Wrong, it's a product that can be objectively appraised.
>hating on konosuba
Spot the pretentious "mature entertaintment" fuckstick.
Been reading this and after the chapters where they spend all their money to built a shit armor with the scraps of their ñrevious one, i can believe how stupod this guys are.
Shit, is like the author has sometging against pretty boys in real lofe and vents all his frustation in the novel.
>objectively appraised
>entertainment media
>objective appraisal
>objective
>objective entertainment value
Did you forget what setting they are living in?
Mino is the light
but we are a people bathed in darkness so it sting like hell
Pretty sure the elf kid has slept with her countless times.
I mean isnt for that that slaves are for in that world
because it's not about being magically transported to a life where having played videogames a lot will make you an amazing, special person and super popular with cute girls
the current FoTMs consist of two sci-fi isekai and one Victorian gothic horror isekai
I wonder if they have a lesbian thing going out too
Yeah it's about how people with superpowers somehow go insane enough to drag themselves down to the level of muggles who has no shit on them even with all of their armed forces combined because slightly above shit tier magic beats technology every day of week.
>Maou flipping burgers
Fuck that shit.
her mary sueness hurt his ego
They gotta get off somehow when Leon isn't home.
>two sci-fi isekai
What's the second one after space emperor something?
But their a re suppose to be nobles with high education, a d isnt one of those an intelectual glasses kind of kid.
They become unbelievable stupid after meeting marie.
for Japanese, Evil Lord
for Chinese, Crossing the Future (aka Boss Lan's pokemon adventures)
Haven't seen anyone mention boss Lan in a long ass time though.
>sister: "it seems your fiance is always out of the kitchen, if I was your fiance I would never leave the kitchen"
>chooses sister as fiance
>sister quickly also fucks your best friend
this is a cautionary tale
The elf slave is supposed to be a helper kind of character originally. Then again you'll later see him getting beheaded later on.
gov't wouldn't want it
>But their a re suppose to be nobles with high education
They are supposed to be second class citizens in otome world.
>a d isnt one of those an intelectual glasses kind of kid
Dude, Chris is a swordsman, not a scholar. Or do you really believe that every person who wears glasses is also a genius?
>They become unbelievable stupid after meeting marie.
They were like that even before. Even Leon's memories of them confirm that.
>getting thrown into life-or-death battles
>has OP robot that can easily get him out and slaughter the new humans while he's at it
>unlucky
They were always retards, they were just rich retards that had everyone cater to them.
>second class citizens
The males at least, dunno if that includes the prince. I doubt it.
>spoiler
W- what? Is that WN thing? Who would do such a thing? Especially after that little fucker started to be a little likeable.
Oh god, and least tell me his mom remains ok in leons land.
I wonder if leons dad ends fuckibg her like leon feared.
Ikemen are second class citizens.
Other schmucks are third class.
Japanese: wish fulfillment
Chinese: power fantasy
Korean: NTR bait
They do. They get along too well and sleep together at night. Plus their first time was a threesome.
Arent there any ilustration of the queen.
She is suppose to be the most beautifull woman in that world acording to leon.
>forst time a threesome
Is this real, holy shit leon is a lucky man.
>Muh art is subjective
>Muh entertainment is subjective
>Muh feeling are subjective
Wrong: art is a product, entertainment is a product; products that elicit objective emotions and values. Objectively, there is nothing subjective about anime.
I would have an isekai with 3 characters, a Japanese otaku salaryman, a Chinese otaku murderhobo, and a western pulp action hero
the pulp action hero will investigate and strategize
the murderhobo will cultivate and treasure hunt
the salaryman will just fuck off and do what he wants
they all end up in the same place, every time much to each other's dismay
>objective emotions
>objective values
I think he mean Chinese court dramas
or murderhobo femMC series
What novel is this? Cant say he looks familiar
they do "cannon fodder" series which has the same dilemma of "MC is isekai'd into a person that's fucked"
I remember one where after a series of misunderstandings the ML says fuck it and spends several chapters just raping the MC
seems like there's a transition period desu
The only steampunk thing I've liked since reading Sharnoth and Gahkthun.
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If i remember spoilers correctly, he and other slaves do something awful that makes the crown pass a law saying that having slaves is no longer allowed. They probably betrayed the kingdom when the principality came knocking a second time. Don't quote me on this, check the TLs if they got to that part yet.
>boss Lan gets cut off from her hormone control drugs since she's stationed in the middle of bumfuck nowhere
>all the shit she's been delaying since puberty hits her hard
>starts growing tits, hips and ass
>also starts having periods
Life is hard for boss Lan.
>reading chinkshit
Y'all are just asking for get poohed
We need rule 34 of the daughters.
I know that Leon's current sister's catboy fucktoy did incriminate Leon and colluded with the Principality but half-elf got cold feet after Leon helped his mother. So he should be innocent. I'm going by current TLs btw.
KITA!
Oh then nevermind me.
at least she's not Luo Lang
>be battle shounen protag
>try to be a manly man and protect your twin sister
>grow up to look like your twin sister (aka heaven toppling beauty)
>fucker once tried to mind control you, pump you with aphrodisiacs, and reenact several h-doujins that Yea Forumsnons fap to
>boss torments you more than others because of jelly
>special ability is having several dickass personalities who tried to derp you once
being Luo Lang is suffering
Guy keeps getting into trouble because of it and it's just sad at this point.
It's real. Course the chapter itself was a gag chapter, where the five idiots and Marie unknowingly try to interrupt, while Luxon, Noel and Claire play defense. Marie even has a sense that something is going wrong and that she has to speak to Leon.
Can't be pooh'd if I'm reading a completed novel.
>Please don’t let anything unexpected happen when they ride on the liner…
Has life taught you nothing, you coin-flipping, lampooning, glabella-tapping fuck, you're going to get dragged into other people's messes whetever you want to or not.
dunno what he'll do when his sister gets NTR'd by the ML
Is Night Ranger any good, seeing how it's completed and all.
>Chinese series gets cancelled
>still 1000 chapters to be translated
>chinese chapters
it's ok
Aren't chapters like 200 words though?
Read Kingdom's Bloodlines and tell me that again.
Does it have westernized names? Because I'd hate to CTRL+F replace all recuring characters with Johns and Wills again.
It's fucking western fantasy, dude.
Those are just coincidences.
>Because I'd hate to CTRL+F replace all recuring characters with Johns and Wills again.
You Burgers are a strange bunch.
>burgers
Who?
Not him and certainly not a burger but every Chinese name sounds the same for me. Don't have that problem with Japanese, for some reason.
I guess she only loves one boob.
Good for him, he fucking earned it.
Sven if all he has is thanks to a cheat item.
that's because you spent years going through Japanese names so you are used to them
Chinese names used to bother me too but not as much anymore (especially since they usually never exceed two syllables and always use the same 20 names)
No because japanese names are two words:
>John Smith
>Suzuki Satoru
Not fucking
>Lu Sei Xai Nue
Gooks have similar issue but it's less pronounced as they often use honorifics with one part of name. Like what does they have for "brother\sister" stuff instead of aniki or -san? I forgot.
Chinese names, at least in these novels tend to also only be two words
unless they are of a clan then (clan name, branch name, surname, first name)
but they always use the same fucking words everytime
Chu, Feng, Fang, Yue, Yu, Xue, Xie, Yi, Lang, Qian, Lan, Chen
apparently this is not IRL and that the names of chinese murderhobos are always chuuni as fuck (like Bai Long = White Dragon, or Xie Feng = Evil Wind), Japanese and western names can be very elaborate and unique, but it's always Chu and Xiao with Chinese names.
>Lu Sei Xai Nue
You just created that shit.
>she
>ML?
Also, nigga is so poor and close to being sold off as a slave, she(?) could only afford a shitty armor that covers only one tit.
Chuuni names in chuunishit like the average xianxia thing don't really bother me, after you see people dueling with their flying mountains or 48k armed budhas entering mortal combat with a dude a trillionth their size you kinda stop being bothered about small details like that.
I was talking about chapter 997.
cucked spider
That's Meol(Leon older sister slave cat person) not the little elf fuck boy
male lead
>creating a child, but without the pleasure of being cummed inside
what's the point.
She'll get that too, eventually. Once the author stops fucking around and makes the goddamm next chapter
>author stops running away and write MC finally having sex
It's going to be a long wait
Just make a fucking fade to black scene if you don't want to write porn.
Konosuba is a bad example, it’s a comedy from the start. And hilarious, so eat my ass.
But stuff like Escaflowne is definitely preferable. I really wish the Curse Blood author didn’t eat it, it was so promising.
>possesses somebody's else body
It cannot go well, in both meanings.
Still sounds very Chinese.
Only if you've never seen a actual chink name, very rarely do you see a motherfucker with more than two words in their name.
>Meol
Finally some good news. I hated that faggot since he appeared. Is his death certain?
Maybe but if some guy would try to convince me that Lu Sei Xai Nue was a famous chink general from 3 kingdoms, I would probably believe.
Pretty sure Leon's dad beheads the guy and kicks his corpse off the airship right in front of the rest of the family.
Minobros, I know you're here so I want to ask. How badly it would be if I make the main character a blacksmith even though I don't know how blacksmithing works and just shift the POV to his friends when he's forging or just does it off-scene?
>Yun Che
>Chu Feng
>Fang Yuan
>Ji Ning
>Chen Yan
It's always (family name) (given name)
it's just if it's 3+ character then it's up to translator if they write it Zhou Mingrui or Zhou Ming Rui
>I don't know how blacksmithing works
Start researching then.
there's dozens of youtuber blacksmiths who explain the process as they go along. write what you know means don't write it until you know it.
I think the trick to writing a good romance is to give the MC a preference in girls that isn't cartoonishly thrown in your face, then have the MC get with a girl completely different than that after spending a long time with them
Student main right here
SASUGA SHADOW-SAMA!
>boss Lan
Is that from INEBM?
What series? only found Sword of Stranger name associated with it
>Was supposed to lose like a mob
>Kept standing up like a shounen protagonist
What a farce.
Well, there are books that cover those. Likely plenty of web novels too. You'd have to go looking for them though, and they're not anime, manga, or even LNs, so eh.
>Is that from INEBM?
Yes.
>What series?
Same series. Luo Lang is one of Boss Lan's subordinates.
I expect that to happen, but it needs to have enough content between him agreeing to have sex with her and the fade to black before he jams it in, with some after they wake up the next day. I want to know what the bed was saying.
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He was backed up hard and just wanted to get as many mob cliches out of the way as he could now that he finally got a chance, thing is he didn't consider that stacking a million of those in a row made him look implacable.
I don't get Japanese isekai infatuation with trap.
Are CN and KR Isekais the same?
I'm thinking Onii-sama should enter right about now
Usually not many people dying on things like this except of Tales of Demon and Exorcist
That's because Japanese peasant doesn't have family name till very recently, that's why their name pool is still very diversified, like any random peasant could make up their own family name.
On the other hand, Chinese family/clan name is pretty ancient so it got concentrated into very few names nowadays. That's why you got so many Liang or Zhang. I'm not sure why but the Vietnamese is even more concentrated, that's why there's so many Nguyens. Don't know anything about the Koreans.
That's only true nowadays and only in the Mainland. I think chinks in Taiwan/HK/SEA uses different romanisation, so it's still common to see three names (e.g LKY).
>mfw you have to fight-off your chuuni copycats
en.wikipedia.org
>Chinese names are a well-studied example of surname extinction: there are currently only about 3,100 surnames in use in China, compared with close to 12,000 recorded in the past,[4][5] with 22% of the population sharing the names Li, Wang and Zhang (numbering close to 300 million people), and the top 200 names covering 96% of the population. Names have changed or become extinct for various reasons such as people taking the names of their rulers, orthographic simplifications, taboos against using characters from an emperor's name, among others.[
>By contrast, some nations have adopted family names only recently. This means both that they have not experienced surname extinction for an extended period, and that the names were adopted when the nation had a relatively large population, rather than the smaller populations of ancient times.[5] Further, these names have often been chosen creatively and are very diverse. Examples include:
>Japanese names, which in general use date only to the Meiji restoration in the late 19th century (when the population was over 30,000,000), have over 100,000 family names, surnames are very varied, and the government restricts married couples to using the same surname.
>The Wandering Inn
Ruined by that retard runner secondary main character. The first MC was alright, in the first volume, and runner chick was nice until big reveal. Then I wanted to legit skip every section runner chick was in, but didn't to see how it would tie in to the main arc. She just kept getting more and more fucking time though. What a horrible character. I couldn't go past the first volume. I'm told it only got worse after that for the main character too, so literally zero appeal.
that's when I dropped it. I hated how powerless the characters felt, they basically just watch the world 90% of the time
don't even acknowledge it. it's already bullshit somebody gets to advertise his shitty novel for free while contributing nothing to the thread.
True enough, but it might not just be a shill. People legitimately liked the shit for some reason. It can't have all been just flunkies or relatives.
Like how people liked that fucking awful two-hit attack mom LN. It was absolute fucking trash, yet it still scored well, and apparently the anime was well received. I might watch the anime at some point to see if it's better than the LN, but I don't see how a 1/10 could change to anything better than possibly a 3/10.
I liked the beginning of it. I also liked the other one "No epic loot only puns" or something about the girl and her friendly dungeon. I stopped because it got repetitive, but it was decent
Unless His like Van who is still alive even being decapitated, I don't think so
>but it might not just be a shill
then he'd talk about it instead of just plugging the name. if someone just went around the board and just posted Crunchyroll over and over all hell would break loose.
Van barely needs his body at this point.
>read girl who ate death god
Pretty gud. Short, sweet, and to the point.
That's a fucking fair point. The only time I ever see that fucking book recommended it is only ever the name posted, with very little information beyond that, if any. I have no clue why I didn't notice that until this point. I'll have to be on the lookout for shit like that moving forward.
I still like Epic Puns, but might stop reading since it doesn't look like it'll ever get finished. Abuse of Magic was an alright read until the author did a time skip, then it just felt like everything was on fast forward. Glad there's other books still trickling out that are fun reads though. I'm fine with a mediocre story if the author at least makes it memorable in some way.
Fucking love this series and autistic MC. How are novels? Better start with WN or go stright for LN?
Every 'arc' is literally the same old shit and repetitive
pretty good until the more recent volumes where it gets repetitive. translations have ground to a halt anyways.
Yeah, I guess it is not for people who expect an engaging story. I look at it like I looked at Konosuba, just a comedy taking a piss at some cliches.
Thanks.
Flame Ring is more of the same but you'll like it if you liked that.
>tfw you'll never eat potatoes with Schera
there's a story there, but it feels like the author doesn't know how to write his characters past the point where they're being amazed by Shadow. so he does a soft reset every volume with a complete location change with new people to amaze.
So like Ash constantly losing all his pokemon except Pikachu whenever he travels to new islands, eh?
You could say the same about OPM and look how popular that is.
Personally I also prefer ones with more engaging stories and that take themselves more seriously, but shadow is one of the few exceptions I do enjoy.
OPM develops its side-characters.
I blame Mormons
Princess Alexia seems displeased that Pooch dumped her and started chasing another tail.
I'll check it out
If you battle along side her then you eat potatoes with her forever. However, the dead don't feel hungry
>that chomp sound effect when "drinking" the coffee
Cute.
>Maou flipping burgers
>Fuck that shit.
but that was great!
there some growth in his shadow army and some side characters, but it's written more like something happening in the background rather than a B plot.
author might be trying to do something similar to Overlord where Ainz travels to different areas and dominates them. but unlike Overlord you already know what the conclusion is going to be and at the same time it doesn't feel connected to the main plot. maybe because the novel is 80% from Shadow's perspective and he fundamentally has no idea what he's doing.
she still thirsty for mob dick tho
>but unlike Overlord you already know what the conclusion is going to be
>one of 20+ Dragon Lords
>already know what the conclusion is going to be
Excuse me?
watching the hero get bitched out by some big tittied short stack was a great moment
New WN raw chapters have also almost ground to a halt. The author is focusing on the LN now.
Doesn't it update pretty much much weekly? That's a pretty normal pace for most narou novels. Though his chapters do tend to be rather short.
I have no idea what you're implying. did you misread me?
I hope it's so he can change things significantly.
>did you misread me
Yes. I'm sorry.
KnJnN? If it's not you don't have to tell me the name, I'll just keep looking.
>chinese "isekais"
how do they do it. how do do they consistently manufacture the lowest grade goods available.
They are fueled by the gutter oil.
Release that Witch was my favorite isekai for a while. but then it was cancelled by the government. so I don't fucking know.
It still hurts.
Alexa is great with how bitchy she is. Feels like she's gotten more development than Shadow's bitches.
Hasn't been updated since the 18th of last month.
>I hope it's so he can change things significantly
Volume 3 made a number of changes like making it so that Sid wasn't intentionally trying to fuck over Shadow Garden and volume 4 is supposed to be LN original.
>waiting for new Scarlet translation intensifies
Someone post Saitama x Genos training backhand flick
YIFF
Hot.
Obviously it's bad parenting user, which is historically a very very very common mistake many rulers make, most of the time simply because they can't afford the time to spare and did not plan out their later years timetable around personally raising their heir. Couple that with how most rulers tend to value their kingdom/empire/lineage more than an individual offspring and how they know their children will be influenced by various subjects of all kinds, most of them especially ones generations down the line since the founding of their dynasty will end up treating their kids like how someone would treat Pokemon. You're definitely capable of attachment if you wish for it, even unreasonable attachment at that like if someone really likes Pikachu they will use Pikachu even when fighting rock and ground. But there's plenty who just min/max and don't care for the Pokemon at all and use them to win.
Reality is like that even in 2019, so while many novels are not explicit it's supposed to be implied at this point. And that's usually if the rulers themselves are competent enough, usually the rulers are also incompetent and basically only managed because of the achievements of the ancestors.
In the case of WNs at least, editors really do help a lot. Sevens LN is a huge improvement to the WNs. I assume this will be the same and that the editors will reign in some of the author's dumber ideas or fetish insertions.
The extra epilogue is really good too. Glad to see at least Schere survive and her man survives, in a way. And that her enemies got fucked in the end.
Flame Ring also had reference to Noel and the other series the author make, the one where they girl grows drugs.
Too bad the Yuusha one doesn't get translated, I wonder if she was referenced in Flame Ring. She's referenced in a Death God extra chapter.
All they had to do was wait a bit longer before trying and he would have given in to their requests. It's not like they were male spider/spirit and dragon before the contract
They also sometimes force changes aren't necessary and just make the LN worse, which sometimes only gets it cancelled when it's too different from the WN.
While I'm glad these got fully translated, I do wish it get a better translation. It's a shame no western publisher seems interested to pick these up. It's short, sweet, and seems like it would be popular in the west (actiony, female MC, almost no lewd fanservice).
Marche si the antagonist, isn't he?
Will we see more of sherry in the future?
>he's just japanese
?
It got DMCA'd. Alphapolis is really bunch of niggers. I just hope the translator won't be as much of a pussy as those gook translator a couple of weeks ago.
The Absolute deadMadmen
Schera and Noel are way too ruthless for the West on top of neither of them giving a shit about which hot boy is gonna pork them.
Why should he care? He has control over a super advanced military prowess that can bring forth literal armageddon, why should he care about what others think of him?
Because he doesnt want to go around killing people for no reason.
Why did Alphapolis have to let Sekai Project get GATE who still only have a single volume out?
What's that? She looks like a dom.
you know exactly what i'm talking about when it comes to jap isekai protagonists dodging pussy like it's the plague
Because he's a spineless faggot and you're a fucking retard for expecting more out of his character.
Goddamn humans are truly scum. The world is ending and they are targeting Shedy instead. And I have no compassion for that old man, if they were not threatened, he would have treated that demi-human kid like slave anyway. Humans should become slaves.
What are you talking about?What isekai?
You're human too
Apotheosis of the murder bunny.
>implying anons are humans
Was.
But he still ended up killing a lot of people. He should understand that by commanding Luxon, he is essentially the enemy of all new humans.
>so it's still common to see three names
Yes but not surnames. The most famous two word surname is naturally Sima, but even that appears to be one word in English because it's not typed as Si Ma.
If we went by syllables then everyone can see nip names tend to be longer than chinks. Even if chinks having 3 words per name it means shit when each word is a syllable. Meanwhile you have an English name that can have 4-5 if they get ridiculous.
So at the end of the day, it's a matter of familiarity. You guys don't seem to get it, it's easier to get familiar with shit when you are younger. You people aren't in your teens anymore, your brain isn't as sharp and receptive to new things and even nip names took you years.
You guys wanna get objective? Go perform studies or even look up studies where people remember their foreign name classmates or peers in school at work and see the rates. I can guarantee that Japanese names do not have a higher memory success rate than Chinese or Korean or even Indian. That's not how language works. It's just you fools that can't differentiate your own bias and think you have complete control over your brains.
Source, please.
>“You really think I want to protect the kingdom?”
>[Am I wrong?]
>Speaking truthfully, I wouldn’t care if the kingdom was destroyed.
>The reason why I want it intact for now is because the citizens will be in deep water without a country.
>Without a ruler, they’ll be in trouble.
>“I have no interest in the management of a nation. If I were to destroy the country, the ones who would be in trouble are the people who live there. That’s not something a guy would do unless he really wanted to.”
>[Are you sure about that? In the event that Milaine and the duke’s faction fails, you will be executed, Master. Of course, I won’t let that happen. However, why aren’t you taking any initiative?]
>“──If the country discards me, then I will just flee.”
Seems fairly reasonable to me. Course since we're chinese psychopaths, let's just nuke the country am I right?
Not sure, but is that the only Alphapolis series that got released officially in the west? If so, it's a shame, they got some interesting otome series that'll probably never got fantranslated since they are a total pain in the ass when it comes to fantranslation.
Why can't we have stories with wholesome relationships with hugs and cuddling instead of sex?
Because they're cheap, shitty and retarded. They just licensed New Gate to One Peace Books. It's like they learned nothing from the Sekai Project mess. Those two companies deserve each other though.
Use kuroba retard
I'm actually okay with it. they were already near the end of the tech tree the whole thing with the demons and the dream world was kind of dumb. pretty sure he was already running out of ideas and stretching things out.
contrasting modern ideas to antiquated technology was the fun part. going against magic zerg bugs that just happen to be a fair fight against whatever tech Roland has at the time feels arbitrary. and the demons as a species had no fixed ideology or theme. they may as well just been another faction of humans.
There was ctulhu navy faction for Roland to defeat inside hollow earth.
Considering how fucking retarded the nobility of the kingdom is, I refuse to believe that the kingdom is actually prosperous unless Milaine and Angie's dad are doing like 99% of the work to keep it together.
So? It still means your post is wrong and you're just taking this chance to make an ignorant statement volunarily.
But the west love cool woman that need no man.
Alphapolis the scourge of all naroukind
It was DMCA from mangadex to Google, aka business as usual since they ignore it. At most Google will delist them.
I can only hope.
My guess is yes, MC is a romcom protagonist after all.
but there was no setup for it other than it being there. didn't even bother to foreshadow any of the characters or plot threads it's going to involve. it may as well be a completely different novel.
leon was annoying at the lengths he'd go to avoid his relationships with his love interests, constantly going on about how he's a mob and one is too high status for him and how the other one should be getting with other men instead
Basically the only ones who suffer are the Baron through Count ranking. The general population isn't affected. Plus in regards to nobility, you got them all over the spectrum, like Angie's dad and the Queen being one side of the spectrum to the 5 idiots.
They like a specific kind of "tuff womyn who need no man", Schera and Noel ain't the right kind.
The 5 idiots are stupid but mostly harmless.
I'm talking about retards like that duke and his cohorts who are some of the most powerful men in the kingdom and yet are completely fucking retarded.
Well yeah, for example Lin Feng would just swing his sword wife four times and make every idiot that wants to fuck with him dissapear because he has no good reason to tolerate people that actively want to harm him and everyone under him.
Fairy Slenderman is doing a good job at purging them though.
Leon is a passive faggot who refuses to do anything unless circumstances force him to do it.
His antics and personality make him extremely fun but he also has an obsession with not disturbing the status quo or doing anything with his god-like power which is one of the shittiest traits most isekai MCs share.
Wasn't it marquis?
Yeah, sorry. He is a marquis, I got his rank mixed up with the one Angie's dad has.
You're expecting chinese tropes to work in a japanese-written setting. Like sure, he can just ask luxon to just blast the problem away, then what?
the best thing about his progression so far is abandoning the mob mentality sort of.
when characters can start to accept they can be protagonists too they simply become better protagonists in their story.
Can't Leon just take his waifus and family, board his ship and fuck off to the other end of the world?
There are no more problems and he can go back to chilling. Though it's kinda unfair to compare Leon to a dude who's essentially a god.
>jap isekai protagonists dodging pussy like it's the plague
I wish these were the type of character that get NTR'd.
well, he's running away to fuck a whore, it's already reverse NTR. I'd like to see how the character would react when she returns the favor.
he doesn't go to the red light district because he has those rare japanese traits of black hair and brown eyes so people would know if he went and he doesn't want that
Please answer, anons.
>there are no more problems
Read carefully.
>Speaking truthfully, I wouldn’t care if the kingdom was destroyed.
>The reason why I want it intact for now is because the citizens will be in deep water without a country.
>Without a ruler, they’ll be in trouble.
>“I have no interest in the management of a nation. If I were to destroy the country, the ones who would be in trouble are the people who live there. That’s not something a guy would do unless he really wanted to.”
Ruling a kingdom full of idiots isnt as funny as many think. You cant expect to just kill everyone who doesnt follow your order and for things to work out.
i thought it was black and black not black and brown.
He can just put someone else in power or murder the faggots like the marquis faction.
>murder the faggots like the marquis faction.
Isn't he going to do it anyway at this rate?
>Leon is a passive faggot who refuses to do anything unless circumstances force him to do it.
expect he was initially very proactive about changing his fate, and then he wasn't. his goals and personality are all over the place. pretty sure he's just motivated to do whatever is convenient for the plot.
SauceNao doesn't help this time so I guess I could help you out. Sachiku no Golem Master.
Goddamn Thunder and that mermaid exploring aren't enough for you?
Yes, because he has no other choice. I'm talking about him doing something out of his own fucking initiative for once.
it's the thought that counts
Some of the people he would need to kill would include Ange's family since they want to kill Milaine and MC's niece so that they can get the throne.
And they are the people MC was pushing all the jobs to since MC isnt interested in politics.
I mean he did change his fate from being sold off and killed. And he was very active in trying to not get a bitch wife and actively trying to derank.
He was initially very "proactive" about changing his fate because circumnstances forced him to do that (if he didn't make it big as an adventurer, he was getting married off to some old cunt who killed all her previous husbands) but once he got Luxon and had the power to literally do anything he wanted he went back to being a passive cunt.
I'd say his personality is pretty consistent: he is a lazy retard who hates doing shit on his own accord and instead chooses to whine endlessly about problems that he could easily solve and come up with excuses to not do anything till said problems because so big that he has no choice but to deal with them.
>it's the thot that counts
made me chuckle subconsciously.
Thank based user.
>expect he was initially very proactive about changing his fate
Initially, he was in the deep shit and the only way for him to avoid horrible life and death was to bite the bullet and become a powerhouse. After that, he slowed down significantly because he likes status quo. I think he is a consistent character.
Wasn't Angie's family on the queen's side?
>Some of the people he would need to kill would include Ange's family since they want to kill Milaine and MC's niece so that they can get the throne.
I don't see any problem with killing a used hag.
*become so big
>he is a lazy retard who hates doing shit on his own accord and instead chooses to whine endlessly about problems that he could easily solve and come up with excuses to not do anything till said problems because so big that he has no choice but to deal with them
He is literally me.
absolutely not. neither of those didn't establish anything other than some vague threat that they don't even have to bother with until all of the current plot threads are tied up. the 4th race and it's discovery had no impact on the plot other being another mountain to climb. it's competently tact on.
In last arc it was divided in 3 main factions.
The royals, because of MC they lost a lot of authority/trust (1 prince became a commoner to marry a literal whore, 2 prince a trans, the princess which was supposed to marry MC to reward him/keep him in check broke her engangement )
aristocratics led by Ange's father , because of MC they gained a lot of power plus a lot of them owe MC
fallen nobles, they ally with foreigners and try to restore their status
Why did she break the engagement?
how can we stop steve jobs from ruining all isekai?
The princess was MC's niece, they could only see each other as family . MC doted on her quite a lot so when he learnt that she was in love with her former fiance he helped her even tough he knew it would start a civil war.
Introduce them the PC-- oh wait
>he is a lazy retard who hates doing shit on his own accord and instead chooses to whine endlessly about problems that he could easily solve and come up with excuses to not do anything till said problems because so big that he has no choice but to deal with them.
this just feels like the author having his cake and eating it too. he's too lazy to do anything, except when he isn't for some reason that just came up. he literally knows the future and the intimate thoughts of every major character, but is conveniently too dumb to act on the information. etc.
like the whole thing where he likes gambling enough to break his mob persona came out of nowhere.
I'd say Leon is willing to act to solve other people's problems when no one else would but he refuses to do anything to solve his own problems.
>like the whole thing where he likes gambling enough to break his mob persona came out of nowhere
He broke his mob persona because Marie forced his hand. She knows jack shit about the consequences of usurping Olivia and derailed the whole plot of the game. Leon had to take action to avoid total destruction of the kingdom. Money from gambling and bitchslapping 5 idiots was a nice bonus.
>mangarock is KILL
absolute mad prophets
It still works tough.
Man those japs really like job huh.
>Magical Mozart proves that light behaves both like a wave and a particle
>wizard heads start exploding
>Magical Mozart proves that atoms are made up of smaller particles and that humans can alter their structure
>cardinals, bishops and pastors explode into pillars of holy light
I haven't laughed this hard in ages, it's just so silly.
you can find an excuse for any kind of behavior if you think hard enough. it just doesn't feel natural to me and is way too convenient for the plot. I mean he has this passionate rant about how shit the matriarchy is. and then he lectures the prince about how he's being selfish and should just go with the system.
the whole Marie thing is also infuriating. it feels like one of those NPCs that say "must have been the wind" after getting shot in the head, expect that NPC is the protagonist.
why put john carter there? it opens the pandora box
That's how I tried to rationalize it but I do agree with you, Leon's constant complaints about how awful the kingdom is and his refusal to stir the pot in any meaningful way make for a pretty annoying combination.
>the whole Marie thing is also infuriating. it feels like one of those NPCs that say "must have been the wind" after getting shot in the head, expect that NPC is the protagonist.
Don't know, really. She flipped the table rather early on and then Leon assumed she at least knew what she was doing. If he had known earlier then assassinating her before they enrolled was a feasible way to protect total derailment but he despises murder still.
this gonna need new lines of characters soon
he doesn't even have to stir the pot, he could just have luxon take him and everyone he cares about to another country that doesn't fuck with lower ranked nobility.
>If he had known earlier then assassinating her before they enrolled was a feasible way to protect total derailment but he despises murder still.
he also has a nigh omnipotent machine that can monitor her 24/7 but he only keeps it in her room for a few minutes.
That happens in real life all the time. You get stuck with a shit job, but can't do anything about it and complain instead. There's usually a boiling point where it just becomes time to fuck off. The complaints are usually just blowing off steam.
Except he can do something about it.
Leon's situation is closer to someone with a PhD working at a shit fast food joint complaining about how shit his job is but refusing to tell his boss to fuck off and quit even though he knows that he could easily get a high paying job with great working conditions and his own fucking luxuy office on a fucking skyscraper if he just bothered to try and get it.
it's not just that he thinks the system is shit but can't be bothered to do anything about it.
it's that he thinks the system is shit and also thinks other people are selfish for wanting it to change.
>it's that he thinks the system is shit and also thinks other people are selfish for wanting it to change.
explain?
He also is there to keep track of the whole Otome game aspect. And he now has skin in the game since he does have people he cares about outside of his family now.
Except he hasn't done shit to keep Marie in check or prevent her from derrailing the original plot any further.
He just sits on his ass and waits till something goes wrong to react to it.
prince is being seduced by the antagonist. so the protagonist gives him a passionate lecture about how he's being selfish for chasing love and should just marry his fiance like everybody else. except he dodged his own fiance, but still trying to marry within what's considered socially normal for his position.
>“Free?! Finding a good partner? You say that I──we are free?! Don’t treat us lightly, you spoiled brat! Have you felt that your chastity was in danger?! Did you put your life at risk?! Did you get on a tiny boat?! Have you ever set sail into the sky?! You’re allowed to have a beautiful fiancee and you get to play around with another girl…what is there that you don’t want to be born into royalty for? Aren’t you the one enjoying yourself?! Get a grip!”
Is Leon really a hypocrite though? Crown prince is next ruler of the kingdom, just fucking off is highly irresponsible, same as marrying a slut who takes for 5+ guys at the same time. If he indeed wanted to change things and pursue his own love, he should at least make it so his subjects won't be hurt too much.