Why is rape so fun in isekai? has deconstructed rape itself as something not bad

How Mushoku should've gone.

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>tensei isekai adoptive titty mom hugtag
>YWN
Why live?

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Damn son then you go and be surprised about your loli sister being afraid of you.

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We need more isekai where the MC is just a chill healer

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It's always great when the tits literally hang over the borders.

What happened to you in life that makes you post manga page crops without source?

he needs to give his loli the D instead of using slime onaholes

I'm a victim of online bullying and this is the only way I can get back at my tormentors.

Cute stalker
They're not here now post full page or I swear to god I will call you mean names!

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I'm not fucking lying.
>social outcast
>"hurr my life is so sad"
>gf fed up and leaves
>gets into car accident
>appears in front of demon lord just after he decimated the summoner
>"since the prophecy says you will destroy me in the future, i'll let you leave so you can try and fulfill it, not like you'll be able to"
>thrown into the desert, confused because no powers
>gets found by cute girl
>she brings him to her village
>he tells the villagers his encounter with the demon lord
>the mother of the girl says "at last, the chosen has come, to get rid of the evil one"
>mc is freaked out, wants out
>girl misunderstands and shows him her favorite secret spot, where she relaxes
>he loses it and rapes her
>she hides it so the village won't kill him since she also believes he's the chosen one and his mission should be more important than her
I'm so mad right now.

Wtf that's not the isekai magician I've heard of

It can't be helped.

Oh, no, I'm not talking about that one.

>he loses it and rapes her
Well then what is it?

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Because 95% of isekai stories are formulaic and poorly written so it makes sense that they would overuse tropes to the point where they hold no meaning anymore

How does one lose it and rape someone?

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Easily under stress.

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he thought it was a hallucination of his dying brain

Still less cringeworthy than faggot MC that is surrounded by hotties and don't give a shit about any of them.

I Work As A Healer In Another World's Labyrinth City
Those bullies were right you're such a useless faggot user I hope you kill yourself before your forties but fail, get paralyzed and suffer for another decade confined to a hospital bed, slowly watching as all your friends and family give up on you.

and of course the one I'm reading right now uses it

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Hey if the Boss says drop your pants then you better do it.

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>Second chance at life
>Rapes someone.
Fucking idiot.

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Please respond.

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Basically and . Since he was a social outcast, he can't understand why the girl would be nice to him, nor can he endure the fact that people he hasn't met before are calling him hero and want him to kill the demon lord. When she kept trying to befriend her, he just broke.

What's there to read isn't there like 3 chapters or something?
Maybe he was aspiring rapist but never accomplished anything.

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I remembered it - The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant. It's very depressive series, while reading it remember - everything will be even worse.

What the fuck are you on about?

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I found it, don't bother with it, it's a western series.

Thank you.
Fuck you faggot get out

I guess... it can't be helped.

>literally on-topic
>also isekai
>hurr get out
Since it's a westernshit, just ignore it, don't give him attention.

>find man who claims whole life got turned upside down
>after losing everything, get told by litteral demon god you're the chosen one and he'll kill him later
>tell him he needs to save everyone
>take him alone to favorite spot
>surprised when panicking motherfucker confuses your kindness for affection and rapes you
and that's what you get for being selfish

You go with him too.

Why use whips when there are better methods that could be used?

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Soon.

hey bro I found this really sweet historical isekai you should check it out

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Op can't even write properly

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Yea Forums is a scary place.

>isekai
>still use Nyaa
Kek

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Sometimes I think I should.

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>3 moons
>inverted earth
>big ass purple sun
>foliage is still green
Isekai pls.

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go all in and set up a patreon too

Hardcore military Isekai when?

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Sengoku Komachi. Or Isekai Kenkokuki.

Maybe that's old red dwarf and those could be not moons but other planets, they're supposed to cluster close in red dwarf systems.

>Its an Isekai but instead of being an actual Isekai, the protag accidentally found his way to a 3rd World Country

I'm on it. I've played a ton of Total War so I should be fine.

"hardcore" military isekai would be 60% marching 20% how great food is after marching 15% training 4% trench songs and 1% battles.
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PHALANX

>Timeskip into reverse isekai when protag returns to Japan with his loli harem

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>barbarian
>"army"
a better isekai would be nip teenager hanging out in Pella making fun of uncivilized savages and then conquering persia

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t. miku

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>I swear she's 237 of our years there, they just look and count differently.

>demon lord lolibaba
>mc doesnt romance her
truly the worst outcome.

Is there any decent R-18 isekai? Himekishi is mediocre at best.

That would require writers to know shit about tactics.

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>there are magic walls, how should we destroy them
>O MY TREBUCHET NEN

Demon Lords (loli) would eventually be ditched onto faceless muscle caretakers.

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>O MY TREBUCHET NEN
youtube.com/watch?v=SDuN_vz8igc

Would you want the isekai to be about describing battle formations with isekai just being a fancy way of pre-building a fantasy world?

A war Isekai in a fantasy world wouldn't need that much knowledge since the MC wouldn't have that much knowledge. It would have to be more personally focused. Battle scenes in books aren't exactly interesting to read for the most part, movies/animation do a better job at showing large scale stuff like that

I would like to see the effect of magic and mages on warfare.

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Malazan Book of the Fallen does magic vs magic warfare really well in that mages are both artillery and anti artillery and whoever runs out of mana first is fucking dead and a single fuckup with a shield spell can have your entire unit wiped out in an instant.

>Battle scenes in books aren't exactly interesting to read for the most part
Wrong.

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Is that Thomas Covenant?

>MC is now a Doraemon but pulling out isekai monsters instead of gadgets

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Kumo Nani Ga has several interesting magic fights between local low-level shitters. I like the bit how army feinted preparing a big AOE spell while actually preparing long-range sniping armor-piercing spell to decapitate enemy command.

I'll give it a try.
I'd also like to see how magic afects logistics. I assume that having shit like magical messengers, palantir ripofffs and niggers who can outright teleport shit would affect logistics more than anything.

i want make an isekai manga cause most people have low standards and will read anything to pass the time. do you guys have anything you want to see? like a female mc for example

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In Slave Harem Labyrinth Adventurers can bring 5 people with them through [Field Walk] magic making logistics before every fight just finding the surface that's not protected by anti-magic cement and then walking your troops in batches, hoping there's no traps immediately near your exit point.

Unironically a good one.

>muh tactics and high iq
>meanwhile zergrush, circling, ambush destroys your fancy shit

Yes. See

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>manga
I would say the art is more important than the writing in that case.

Just know that book one is a major blockage that stops a ton of would-be readers in their tracks because it dumps you right into the story with no introduction at all. If you trudge through, book 2, the best in the series imo, is your reward. Coltaine is best commander.

Or this.

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Maybe even this.

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user I don't know if you've noticed but is an example of NOT knowing shit about tactics.

Not really no, most battle scenes are made interesting by the characters and the investment in those characters.
LOTRs massive battles are great because you can watch them. Reading them just isn't as good.

Black Iron's Glory if you want musket rows shooting at each other.

>im-fucking-plying
The Battle of Helm's Deep is pretty meh in the books but the Battle of the Pelennor Fields is fucking great, a million times better than the book version.

But that's what user was saying?

My favorite episode.

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I'm retarded and meant "the film version".

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What chapter was this?

He needed a way to open a gate to the world he left because there is probably a limit to how many monsters he stored.

>Battle scenes in books aren't exactly interesting to read for the most part
Having this much shit taste should be illegal.

Just because Tolkie can't write them doesn't mean shit.

He doesn't even recognize Brendel, he's clearly a crossboarder.

>isekai Mary Sue MC
>lazy plot, MC has no goals or survival instincts, author stroking his ego
>extremely questionable moral compass on MC
>keep cheering for the underdog villains even though they get killed and disrespected to dirt, MC only gets "wow that's a close one" at most

This is masochism

Tolkien can definitely write them, that guy just has shit taste.

Tiny Hat raping the Kingdom with bullets when?

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The manga is taking a really weird direction, it has basically just been 7 chapters of magic explanations.

Here's another great isekai.

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I think these are taken from the LN explaning how she will make weapons and sealed off her morals and PTSD when she fucks over the kingdom

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But even in the LN it had the part (that feels like it has been skipped) where she fights off the robbers at the ranch.

>following the minotaur's advice
>"write what you want to see in iseaki!"
>want to write about hardcore post-isekai where a broken mc comes back to his world with his harem, and they slowly heal his broken heart while all mutually supporting each other as a loving family
>have to write the entire isekai that comes before that, or it will come off as too sugary sweet and blatant wish fulfillment. There needs to be context why the MC got as fucked up as he did, how he met the various members in his party, why his seemingly OP abilities didn't help or even made things worse for him, and a bunch of other context

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Read Let's Aim for the Deepest Part of the Otherworldly Labyrinth RIGHT NOW

I think the robber part will show up in the next manga chapter or 2

>what are flashbacks and monologues
Start writing, even 500-1k words a day will add up fast.

Just add side chapters showing glimpses of his shitty adventure, there is no need to write the whole fucking thing.

So far I've just written whenever I've felt I've had an idea or inspiration for a particular part or character.
Driving home and going "Oh, this character would make sense if they met the MC here!" and write it.
But yeah, I'm not commuting the time to it like I should, and I'm having issues translating bullet point ideas into actual story that doesn't just come off as "He went and did x, and then did y"
Also, I've got to re-write the intro/chapter 1 from second person to third person.
Good idea, honestly. I'll try to do that while still giving enough context in each flashback.
The tricky part of doing flashbacks for me, is that I don't want to introduce a concept or character that might spoil the flashback, or vise versa. Have the current event and flash back close enough together that the context either provides isn't lost.

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I'm doing the same thing as you except I never write shit and just spend the entire time daydreaming.

I've read most manga I can find but which anime has the best rape scenes?

I'd at least get a google docs going, so you can jot on either mobile or at home. That way when you do have a good idea, you can at least get the bullet point down and expand on it later if you're feeling a bit lazy.
You really don't remember how many good ideas you've lost by not writing them down, because you never wrote them down and can't remember that you had them!

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Mommy

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Ditching 2 waifus - a princess and a witch for some bitch who cusses at you.

Why? Is mom's curry that good?

Instead of that, MC should have summoned his mom to the fantasy world and then both can enjoy early retirement in the fantasy world as MC marries the princess

qingyue did nothing wrong

Anyone get that feeling of fascination when a show is so terrible you can't stop watching?
I only saw the first episode by chance the other day.
It's like someone fed isekai stories into a computer and had it create a new one.
Now I want to see what happens.

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I'm not looking for sauce, but before I go reverse image searching and trying to type in the moonspeak for a translation-
Is any of what I'm seeing translated? WN, LN, or a manga?
Want to know there's something at the end of the rabbit hole before I try jumping down one.

Why do they never bring the harem with them? Or at least summon the people you miss over to the new world to also enjoy the sights. It really is kind of dumb.

How would an Isekai about a boy who becomes a bandit king and targets rich people's caravans to support poor people work?
Like a "fix the kingdom" plot, except instead of working with the king, he works with other bandits.

Hmmm... It'd be some weird combination of village founding and criminal activity

New LN cover for a series that has WN and manga translations.

Thank you kindly.

here's one about Grand strategy elf Romans

novelupdates.com/series/santairiku-eiyuuki/

It wasn't horrible, it was just kinda boring.

MC's mom is an awful cook, her curry is literally poison.

However, WN translation is dead and the manga only has one chapter at the moment.

He is not a smart person.

There are too many authors that waste that opportunity.

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no it doesn't

Actually MC is gay

He could have brought them over and introduced them to his mom. Everyone would have been thrilled, especially the mom. Fuck I hate this shit where they never treat the girls right.

dude
Turnips are awesome
also muh springtime of youth

he had a miko fetish

And introduced them to his other sword. When the setting makes a harem the obvious answer, making a MC reject it or too stupid to notice is not a good idea.

They never do and it's a real immersion break.
Get the princess to wear the outfit. She looks like she is the healer of the party.

God what a disgusting image

this but everyone involved is futa (even me)

Yep, a lot of isekai I read has the protagonist wanting to go back to Earth despite all the abilities he gained in the fantasy world because he misses his parents and I always question in my head: Why not just summon your parents.

Go ask your Mom or Dad. Would they rather you come back to Earth while they are still wageslaving and early retirement is still a dream or would they rather you summon them to the fantasy world where they can just mooch off your treasures and high social position that you maxed out in he fantasy world.

100% of parents would rather you take them to the isekai world so they don't need to wage slave any longer.

Honestly, if I was a parent of an Isekai Hero and they came home instead of summoning me to them to the fantasy world, I would slap the shit out of my son.

Hell, health care in isekai world sounds awesome if you have the money for it which my isekai son obviously would have or the powers/abilities to have.

I take a magic spell or a magic potion over surgery any day of the week. Regrowing arms is a possibility in isekai world as well compared to Earth.

And in all the isekai fiction I read, it seems nobody has oral health problems much less cavities no matter how many sweets they eat since I have not heard an isekai protagonist complaining about lack of toothbrushes or floss. There must be some generic "Clean My Teeth and Gums" spell everybody casually uses after meals. How awfully convenient.

>at least summon the people you miss over to the new world to also enjoy the sights.
Only Inuyasha did that properly.

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Makoto's parents being introduced to their first grandchildren never.

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If that user thinks zerg rush is the same as encirclement I don't think he tknows about tactics either.

Didn't that end with her going to ancient Japan and leaving her family and friends behind because the portal was going to get closed forever?

I was thinking of making an isekai like that but genderbent

basically MC gets summoned into "world of reverse gender roles" but medieval fantasy world. They wanted to summon a female hero but got the male MC much to their disappointment. Princess was nice to him at first but it was all an act as her and her posse of fellow 13 year old nobles paralyze him with a spell and gangrape him. MC thinks he'll get v&'d for fucking a bunch of children but is relieved when he's just shamed and exiled for the kingdom. With nothing better to do and with heroic delusions he sets out to defeat the Daimaou. But in the way are assloads of monster girls that kill any women they come across and rape every man they come across. rape and hijinx ensues

Tsuki ga may be one of the few series to actually do that. They conquered that weird inter-dimensional door being so they have that to look forward to. And Makoto has the raw power to follow through. Shiki would cream his pants finally seeing his life's goal completed.

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>enjoy reading mary sue MCs
>get bored writing mary sue MCs

seriously how to people do it?

really it's not much of an isekai since it's only on another planet on our world

might as well say DOOM is isekai (and Superman is reverse isekai)

You are not self-inserting hard enough.

>rape
>ever bad

Not isekai but Road to Kingdom has some meaty war arcs whenever the MC isn't dicking some rando woman.

just genderbend to the mob otome world

>then
>rape is like saying hello in Japan
>now
>rape is bad

What happened

Yes, but I'm referring to the in between where Inuyasha would come visit Kagome and interacted with modern Japan.

There are others with the possibility, but Tsuki ga is one of the few that's made it a goal for the MC, and not necessarily an end goal for the series. There are multiple ways it could be done well in Tsuki ga, and I am not sure which I prefer, but now I just want the author to start writing so something can happen. And Amelia doesn't intend Shiki to be wearing pants.

>What happened
Feminism user. It's like you have been sleeping the last 10 years.

>Hardcore military Isekai when?
Now And Then Here And There. As fucked up and faithful a depiction of the horrors of war as one can get

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Wait what? When the fuck did they broke out of the kitchen?

there was feminism back to and it was just as much of a boogieman

When you weren`t paying attention. It was ok till they comed for our animu.

>it was just as much of a boogieman
And look how we are now faggot. Keep thinking that.

What are you waiting for?

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I wonder what is the end game for Tsuki ga. Could it be Makoto turning into a god like what's being implied. And there is dealing with Bug and what Makoto's original special ability is.
I could see Mio and Tomoe bearing the 100 kids before he becomes a god and takes those two as his godly familiars forever or something before the end.
I think Amelia wants to be the cream nabe that Shiki loves to eat all the time.

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It is really just a proof of concept.

As a kid I used to read all these science fiction novels about a modern man falling into the hollow earth and BTFOing everyone with, surprise surprise, gunpowder and other weapons of mass destruction that the main character conviniently could reproduce.

Maybe dealing with whoever or whatever gives the other heroes their extra power. And if the author wanted to continue writing, there are always more worlds to explore. I do want to see lots of children being born, and not from just Tomoe and Mio. There should be a variety of species contributing genes to make children.

>Korea
>mandatory conscription for all citizens
>borders hostile as fuck neighbor
>sort of Asian powder keg between America and China (originally America and USSR)
>Starcraft is national sport
>overall: probably know a bit about military

>China
>world power from bronze age until now
>had major military conflicts with all its neighbors in recent history
>forced America into a stalemate in the Korean war
>strict military intervention all throughout
>overall: even if citizens aren't apart of the military they have good reference points

>Japan
>demilitarized
>most citizens don't know conflict
>island, no borders
>no country can threaten it without triggering big daddy America
>only field work is a small self defense force that rarely goes to battle
>overall: "Yamato can totally kick everyone's ass honest!"

any recs?

The difference is Edgar Rice Burroughs knew how to make a story entertaining, and the adventure story serial hadn't been over saturated the way the the Isekai market is.

I got into history because 19th century Britain is basically an isekai protag

Red River/Anatolia story ended that way too.

There is really so much rape in isekai? Look like i haven't read the good ones.

After 'Now and Then Here And There' you'll never find it titillating ever again

I haven't seen a lot of actual rape but there is a shitton of attempted rape and rape threats.
It's like isekai authors don't know any other way to let you know a guy is evil than making him a rapist.

Yeah, yeah, nice isekai and all that.
HOWEVER

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Well, if is not an hentai manga/anime it should be not titillating. Watching a realistic rape is like watching a beating.

Nothing implied they're the same, your smart tactics isn't saving you from simple ones.

First three books were passable. Everything after that is BDSM porn

If "smart" tactics don't work against simple shit then they aren't smart.

More like an evil dude doesn't have restraints.
What is usually the common scoundrel in isekai? Probably some gang of bandits. Raiders that invade villages, kill people, take and sell slaves...
Knights at the service of some tyrant that basically do the same...
Do you really expect a character like that to bother dating and seducing a girl?

>Do you really expect a character like that to bother dating and seducing a girl?

I would prefer if it happened to someone outside of the main cast.

I want a Isekai anime where a side character is an isekai guy, but you don't really know it entirely, but there are obvious hints that become obvious once it's revealed. It's like alternate perspective isekai.

Biggest empires on earth >> your 'smart' tactics

White piggu go home

I don't really get what you are trying to argue here. Any armed force above the level of nigger with sticks used tactics, even the "simple shit" you mentioned count as tactics.
You are either under the impression that something doesn't count as tactics unless it involves some extremely complex and convoluted plan or are just a brainlet triggered by the idea of fights being more than just two armies blindly charging at each other (which counts as tactics anyway).

Why are you back tracking away from the 'smart' tactics? concession accepted I guess.

Ah right, forgot about that other entity. Wonder if it's someone that really hates bug or is some kind of Alternative Makoto that survived the timeline wipes. Don't remember much beyond just wanting to mess up the world through the other heroes.

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This wouldn't give the main characters the motivation to take it personal.
Is always cooler when is personal.
Of course there is not only rape for that. But as already said the common manga/anime villain, especially in shonen and isekai, is overally some crazy psychopath that if he get horny surely have no more restraint about raping someone than murdering and pillaging.
That's why the MC is supposed to kick his ass to begin with.

I'm not backtracking. I never even mentioned "smart tactics" in the first place, you were the retard who tried to claim that "smart" tactics lose against simple shit, which means they aren't fucking smart because they don't work.
If zergrushing the enemy is more effective than having your troops do some snowflake-shaped formation and throw their spears at the enemy then the zergrush is the smart tactic while the other thing is just the commander being a fucking retard.

It has to be related to Makoto somehow, because it seemed to at least know of him.
>“Buh– Hahahahaaha!! There isn’t a single person that has wished for something as unsightly as that. Well, if asked if I know him, I do though. He is a hyuman after all. I wonder… I don’t think he will ever come here”
>“If you know him, you should be able to talk with him right?! Hm? If it’s my request he might hear it out? Does that mean—?!” (Hibiki)
>“Sadly to say but, he is not an acquaintance. I just one-sidedly know him. Also, I can’t be that supportive. Okay, this talk is over. Hibiki, decide your power”

I seriously don't understand the criteria mods have to delete threads these days.

they delete threads at random and leave normies that spam twitter screenshots. its infuriating but what do you expect

Great tactic here

That's an example of bad tactics, though.

The only isekai manga that fit the below have stalled translations. Why?

>no OP powers
>MC gets isekaied for a reason that is actually relevant to the plot, instead of just a shitty plot device
>people actually have believable goals and motivations, instead of simply lusting after the MC's cock forever while he ignores them
>no villains that kick puppies for fun
>no idiot that picks a fight with the MC in the adventurer's guild
>no chuuni [ skill names in brackets ]
>the natives are actually useful, instead of needing the MC and his harem to do everything for them
>MC doesn't use simple concepts like crop rotation or two handed wielding to amaze the natives
>no super powerful katanas that are powerful just because they are katanas
>japanese food is not amazing by default
>no ridiculous cafe that somehow manages to make a profit despite using top tier restaurant quality ingredients while selling at ridiculously low prices
>story arcs don't largely consist of the MC showing off "unintentionally" while girls get wet for him
>no "otome game villainess" plots where none of the characters are interesting and it's just about the MC living the luxurious life of a noble
>also no plots where the MC gets "banished" but still somehow manages to live a comfortable life as a "commoner" with zero issues and 10/10 handsome men knocking on her door regularly

>sarcasm

because it's boring as fuck

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A sleeping proto-god would be easy to detect if that being can easily pick out the heroes.

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It'll be out soon.

That speaks more of the pool of free translators with strong work ethic being limited than the stories being sufficiently interesting for said pool.

B R U T A L

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I already have the MC, the love interests, and the powers each of them is meant to represent. Currently working on the abandoned city they'll be using as their home between their isekai adventures.

This give Thanos the aneurysm.

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it was about as good as rokujouma

so it's Fake Meat then?

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>after that is BDSM porn
and that's a GOOD THING

I kinda feel bad that I'm reading this without knowing what the guy did

I feel if I read this arc in the main series I would feel even more catharsis.

raping slimes is a war crime

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GOBLIN EATER

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Read The Wandering Inn.

Are you advertising? That sounds like advertising.

Do you want a nutshell version of things?

yeah might as well since it's already spoiled by the spear series

>sabotages the twin phoenix guardian beast fight, resulting in the death of many people, filorials and ultimately, atla
And that's just the tip of the iceberg, but that should be as much as motoyasu is referencing

Isn't that just Futsuu? Tho it isn't said as is, the part that she sorta rules over bugworld's realm of the dead and both heroes went thru near death experience before getting a power.

If it is, then Futsu would have to be hiding a lot in that meeting later. That kind of power doesn't seem like something a dead dragon could give.

Are there any list of trope isekai events that happen in stories?
Like...
>Bandits/monsters/something attacking carriage, saves them and gets help
>random thug who outrageously picks a fight with MC for no reason
>buy a slave companion
>gets in trouble with local noble

Is there an isekai where the MC has a good life in the real world and is transported to a shitty world?

Would this make sense: your isekai MC counts as an"eldritch abomination" since they got summoned from outside of the summoner's universe if we're not using parallel world stuff?

So what's the reason WW needs an account to read 50+ chapters now? There's no cost, so it's definitely no big deal but why bother then?

Read a few of these until you feel comfortable answering that yourself.
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Howard_Phillips_Lovecraft

yes its called black company, and unsurprisingly, the translations are stalled.

Thales.

99% of the appeal of eldritch abominations is that they are being who are beyond human understanding in pretty much every single aspect.
A superpowered faggot with an obsession with raw fish isn't as scary.

>When, long ago, the gods created Earth
>In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth.
>The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
>Yet were they too remote from humankind.
>To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
>Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.
>A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
>Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.

My death.

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Is this another delaywalled chapter? Got it rustles my jimmies so much when you faggots post them.

Sauce?

Yakudatazu Skill ni Jinsei o Sosogikomi 25-nen
I suggest to read it on an aggregator that doesn't cater delaywall cunts

>yfw H.P Lovecraft getting isekai'd to fantasy Africa where they were kangz

Who let this Stacy intern work the guild counter?

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>deconstructionalists btfo
guess it's back to wish fulfillment!

Big smug mommy tiddies.

Is that Chad in the back Shirleys love interest or the daughters?

It's knockoff goblin slayer and he's trying really hard to get chuuni mom to treat him as anything but a kid.

TURNIPS ARE FUCKING AWESOME, DUDE!
M-O-T-H-E-R-F-U-C-K-I-N-G T-U-R-N-I-P-S
BEST IN THE WORLD!

Dungeon Defense

Pretty sure Thales' girlfriend slowly went insane and tried to pull a double-suicide by driving them off a cliff back in chinkland. Might be wrong as I haven't touched KB since Prison Namek started.

Is novel translated? I've seen first chapter of manga.

Yeah.

>what do you mean only the rich can have a bath

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>doubt.jpg

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There's 86 chapters out, just stop at the end of volume 2.

And there's 20 more in runes, suggesting that TL is dead.

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Yeah, but she was an amazing girlfriend while she was sane ç and Thales had a promising future too

How do you spill your spaghetti that hard?

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So? Vol 2 is a perfectly fine stopping point.

So it's like Bakarina and should've stopped at vol2 but author caved in to publisher and continued to milk the series or something?

No, it's just a more or less acceptable stopping point, because the TL dropped it.

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>using whole fucking cities to ram each other
Chinks, please.

What you never someone accidentally?

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>being surprised about flying pagodas in 2019
Can't see mount Tai

>Dwarf and dragon

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the guy is a literal leper in the real world who gets his impotency cured in this one and thinks the whole thing is a dream caused by a brain injury from his car accident

Aha, so he's retarded.

I rape in dreams too, who doesn't? Although there's an easy way to check if this is a dream or not: ask for a piece of trivia or information that you never knew before, the one your brain could not have thought up on the spot in the dream.

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thinking this shit isn't real in reaction to being transported to a fantasy world is the opposite of retarded, you have to be really credulous, insane or brain poisoned by watching too many isekai to think this could actually happen

I'm a total beta in regular dreams but as soon as I realize it's a dream (lucid dream) I go on a rape spree.

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Aha, so you're as retarded as him.

>get out of The Cube
>two Illuminati agents are waiting
>shoot male one in the head with nail gun I found in the Cube
>shot female one too but she's just grazed
>laying on the ground all secuctive
>oh well

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why would you think a fantasy world was real life when you know you have just been hit by a car

It’s not related to Glen Cook’s The Black Company, right?

Because when you spend over a fucking year there you'd have to be a fucking conspiracy theorist to think you're stuck in a dream.

Nah you're actually retarded too: what you're speaking of should last only a minute for a sane person. Then he ought to start making checks like feeling pain, shuffling environment around, pulling the corner of the eye to see if perception would distort or not etc.

To stay in isekai for hours, or even days, and still thinking it's a dream - is pure retardation.

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Jokes on you, I have NEVER had friends in my ENTIRE LIFE.

you're credulous and don't understand brain injuries
>Then he ought to start making checks like feeling pain, shuffling environment around, pulling the corner of the eye to see if perception would distort or not etc.
maybe a person with a brain injury wouldn't be such a tryhard but would still be aware that they have a brain injury

coming in 2021 and 2025

Or maybe you're just a fucking retard arguing for the sake of arguing.

That shows.

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you're the one arguing with me, it's perfectly rational to think you have a brain injury if you know you were in a car accident and everything around you is insane

None of that is a reasonable response to fucking anything, that's just avoiding facing the facts that yes, you're in generic fantasy land.

>having brain injury
>being aware of having a brain injury
So basic brain functions are working, there's no reason not to do dream checklist especially if it's a very long and vivid dream.
It's not perfectly rational not to check whether you're in a dream or not, it's quite easy and everyone who ever had an issue with nightmares knows it. As well as method to forcibly wake up.

Good!

>magic democracy
>now this
Are you faggot just bored or what?

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>Fivesome

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Ching Chong to you too.

Hot.

it's not a fact if the protagonist is supposed to be realistic, like if a person from our world was placed into the book
memory is intact, but complex reasoning probably isn't

>everyone who ever had an issue with nightmares knows it.
this guy doesn't have issues with nightmares i guess because he is supposed to be a real person from the 70s, not a fucking nerd from 2020

Probably not? MC is a rich guy who gets isekaied and has to work as a miner in a black company to pay off debts.

source?

Every kid has nightmares, if you don't learn to exist them yourself - you're a retard.

Fuck this. I still can't watch Basilisk to the end because of this scenes.
And you just laugh at them

>SLANTED
>PHALANX
I'm pretty sure that he used legit strategy in WN instead of this bullshit.

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i have never had a nightmare because i'm not a retarded credulous pussy raised by a single mother

>i have never had a nightmare

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What is title is this?

maybe you'd consider them nightmares because you're a pussy raised by two moms

Read the thread.
I call them nopemares that I've learned to exit.

yeah because you're a pussy who thinks they're real

he did his perception check with his dick

Best way to do it.

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Exiting them is easy, I'd call it "infusing consciousness" which is the same principle as lucid dreams except you infuse so much you just wake up. The tricky part is only infusing a little to keep dreaming but aware it is a dream, and it is far more satisfying to turn back towards what is chasing you and unleash Matrix kung-fu at them.

I sometimes do it in iterations
>Survival mode: no weapons you hide until monsters find you
>I can win: bladed weapon
>bring it on: firearm

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Read The Wandering Inn.

IIRC the TL is waiting for Vol 3 to end before TL'ing it user.

>westernshit
>female MC
No thanks I prefer my isekai with toxicly masculine male MC who is also racist, rapist and a slave owner.
Then I'd be waiting on them it's that simple.

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Translation is dead near the end of v4 of WN, and v5 is ongoing in raws.

I'm honestly planning on getting back to it soon, I just really didn't like the back end of v4 at all and I couldn't bring myself to do it.

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Understandable, that whole part felt like a quagmire to read.

WASHI JA!

>"hardcore" military isekai would be 60% marching 20% how great food is after marching 15% training 4% trench songs and 1% battles
I would still watch the shit out of that honestly.

It's... not great. The actual ending itself isn't bad but everything else leading up to that is probably the weakest part of the novel so far. At least v5 is interesting since we finally see Shirley's parents again, and they're about as lovely as you'd expect.

Just watch M.A.S.H.

I read the raws. It was alright till he only had relationship with miko senpai as "More than friends but less than lovers". But I dropped this shit when he had also added Vatican blondie to his harem as "Less than friends but more than enemies".

>Why is rape so fun in isekai?
As somebody who never watches Isekai. Would somebody mind explaining this sentence to me?

>user returned from isekai and is comparing experiences
or
>rape is portrayed in light-hearted way in isekai compared to other genres and mediums
Pick either or both.

Reverse image search gives me chink shit

That's just real life.

I mean gook shit.

Just wait 8 more hours my man until LHjews are satisfied with sheeps visiting their shitty virus-ridden site.
Yakudatazu Skill ni Jinsei o Sosogikomi 25-nen

The MC of that story is retarded. I can't stand MCs who come back to earth and act exactly like they did before they left. I mean why the fuck come back to earth then? So you can get bullied, have no friends, and just generally be a background character again?

>my isekai with toxicly masculine male MC who is also racist, rapist and a slave owner.
Will you also keep this attitude if you get isekai'd? Since it will make you an accomplice of the rotten establishment in isekai and thus a target to kill for other anons who want to destroy it.

Unironically, I would at least consider this as an option. I don't need fame, quiet and comfortable life is much more desirable for me.

BUT THE TURNIPS, user, THINK OF HOW GREAT THEY ARE! THEY'RE TOTALLY WORTH GIVING UP A GOOD LIFE FOR!

>magic democracy
what series had that?

>I don't need fame
>so I'll instead become a drone in Japan's horrible work society
Do you realize how retarded you sound there?

>for other anons who want to destroy it
There is only a handful of them, besides they are only a bunch of retards. Not a threat to me.

>other anons
>in my isekai
First thot they sleep with would gut them starting with their testicles. First rule of isekai: make yourself and your assets unrapable and unkillable before enjoying rape and murder.

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Not him but I preferl Earth with isekai cheats than isekai with isekai cheats. Solely because here I can stick it to faggots who're otherwise untouchable.

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Do you realize that there is a middle ground? Hiding your power level does not equate being a doormat. I would use my powers to get some money and not let anyone catch me but after that keep low profile till the end of my life.

>other anons who want to destroy it.
Those hippies would be busy jobbing to threats they were ignoring in favor of democracy and gay marriage.

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Unless you have a concrete idea about making money with your super powers without alerting the authorities that just won't doesn't water. I'll take being able to flaunt my shit whenver I feel like while being a rich and respected motherfucker over hiding in the shadows like a filthy rat who's afraid of waking up every day.

Though not isekai, it still doesn't beat Rance's 41-some.

If we happen to go to the same place and I find out that your participate in slavery, racism and rape, I will deliver justice on you.

There's one (two, but I hate the other one) western serial that deals with superpowers in earth (you do realize your talk it's dangerously capeshit, right?)

>without alerting the authorities
What are they going to do? Kill DnD lvl20 wizard?

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>having superpower
>committing petty thievery
Nah, with the kind of cheats isekai MCs have, you can easily make yourself head of the state or an ultra wealthy businessmen who controls everything from the shadow.

A fine addition to my rapeslave harem.

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>who controls everything from the shadow
But can you defeat the nuke?

>I'll take being able to flaunt my shit whenver I feel like while being a rich and respected motherfucker over hiding in the shadows like a filthy rat who's afraid of waking up every day.
Arrogant buffoon. There is no such thing as invincible, at some point you would lose. Be it poison, ambush, hostage, after many trials your enemies will find your weakness and then it's very unpleasant game over.
>Unless you have a concrete idea about making money with your super powers without alerting the authorities that just won't doesn't water.
That depends what kind of superpower I wield. If I can turn coal into diamonds, I have nothing to worry. If it is something more generic I can always just gank on some mafia and steal their assets.

>100% of parents would rather you take them to the isekai world so they don't need to wage slave any longer.
What sort of a reality do you live in? Do you not think that your parents might actually enjoy their job and because they are much older than your dumb ass they have many friends, unlike you.

I will kill you immediately with my poison cheats, this is my world.

>I can't stand MCs who come back to earth and act exactly like they did before they left
Wanting to go back to the life you have and the people that love you is called "not being a weird sociopath". Literally any protagonist that don't want to go back is trash tier writing. And that includes the once that died.

>If I can turn coal into diamonds
What are you going to do with them? They're only expensive because of mining monopolies. The moment you start influencing market they'll drop the price so you'd be selling pebbles and quit. Then they cut down production and prices rise again.

yall have weird fantasies.
Is it because of wow? I guess I can thank g*d I never got into that.

>have many friends
>many friends
>after 40's
>many friends

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Now why would he imagine her getting in with a towel?

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Moderation is the key. Instead of dumping tons of 100+ carat diamonds just sell them in small amount in many different places and make them look generic.

I don't get why people wouldn't outright say he was a leper and physically repulsed and everyone around him, and instead go with the very vague 'social outcast'. Kind of a different ostracism compared to what the Japanese usually whine about.

Most parents actually have this thing called "attachment" to the life they currently have.

SFW manga that's why. Be thankful it's not nipple thieves again.

>go back to earth to become a wageslave cuck just to meet some "loved ones"
>stay on isekai to rule as a god emperor where the whole world worships you
Geez, I really don't know what to choose.

>"attachment" to the life

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Just remember that Emperors can't have friends or loved ones.

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I've always found the idea of this concept so fucking stupid. It's why I find the MC Self Insert raping a woman so fucking hilarious; obviously if any of you Yea Forumswoo faggots actually got a second chance, you literal fucking morons would ruin it within' the first day.

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My parents are in their 50s and hate everyone they know on some level.

It would just be one more thing to steal in the manga besides her two nipples, and the nipples could be added in again in the tank. Or even just put her hand between her legs again if she would be hiding her body at all.

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>Being this shallow and materialistic.
You'll still be remembered as the legendary hero who saved the world, and you'll get to spend the rest of your life with the people you love in the world you belong.

The only people that would stay are weird sociopaths incapable of forming real connections.

Shut up some of us are actually preparing for isekai.

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>have invisibility and unlimited storage bag
>steal of anons diamond and minerals

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How well do you know yourself user?
This hurt my eyes why did you have to post it?

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I think that might be because of your parents. Most people that old are not like that.

Do you even read isekai? What the fuck are these people coming home to? The MC in question comes home to no friends, no relatives(close or otherwise), just his mom and her fucking curry which he could have gotten in the other fucking world had he brought her there, she has no job and seemingly no friends outside her own son so there is no "broken bonds" there either.

>the people you love
I love you faggots but monmusume harem beats you every day.
>bag
How do living things fare inside of it?

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No, pretty much everyone in my podunk of a small town hates each other on some level.

This. Most isekaifags are disgusting otaku who gave up on life or dead-eyed wageslaves with zero prospects. Neither usually have any kind of family or friends that matter.

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>The MC in question comes home to no friends, no relatives(close or otherwise),
That's kind of stupid bullshit to begin with. Again, unless the main character is so kind of sociopathic freak, that should not be the case. And if the main character is some kind of antisocial freak with no attachment to anything, then he should be written accordingly.

What about guys like

What about an isekai inwhich the MC gain powers and allies by raping women?

>just his mom
>just
She is his family and he clearly misses her greatly. There can be also other things like usual day to day commodities or enjoyments.

>Emperors can't have friends or loved ones.
They don't even need them.
>You'll still be remembered as the legendary hero who saved the world
Yeah, and a few generations later the population will either forgot you completely or villify you as some sort of weird foreign alien.
While by staying you can make sure your reign will last for eternity.

Fair enough. But that's probably just small towns being small towns.

>How do living things fare inside of it?
They stay fine but are in total darkness unless there's some light source put in.

>villify you as some sort of weird foreign alien.
Or backstab you as soon as you complete your mission. Or feed you to a mob looking for someone to blame.

>Neither usually have any kind of family or friends that matter.
Yes they fucking do. Most of them just think they do not. That's one of the reasons why I think the whole Isekai mindset is so disgusting. Because it encourages that kind of thinking.

Again, do you even read isekai? I can probably count the amount of "well-adjusted" MCs on one hand lol, they are generally wageslaves or absolute wastrels where getting isekai'd is a fucking godsend for them.
And as I said he could have brought her over to that world with him. Again, just go read the fucking manga we're talking about instead of trying to generalize shit. He came back LITERALLY for his mom's curry. NO OTHER REASON. NONE WHATSOEVER.

I feel like if that happened they would only show Japanese military strategies, which admittedly sound pretty funny seeing obvious roman expies using shogun strategies.

>I can probably count the amount of "well-adjusted" MCs on one hand lol, they are generally wageslaves or absolute wastrels where getting isekai'd is a fucking godsend for them.
Again, that's the problem. If they are that shit of a person. Then they should be miserable and a failure in the fantasy world as well.

Shock value.

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>Or backstab you as soon as you complete your mission. Or feed you to a mob looking for someone to blame.
Exactly, that's why you need to establish a a firm rule to protect yourself.

>Again, just go read the fucking manga we're talking about instead of trying to generalize shit.
I've read it, you blithering fool. You are dangerously autistic even for this fucking board.
He obviously tries to better himself and live a life he wants. Before summoning he was a loser getting beaten regularly, now he is confident and eager to live to the fullest, without delusions of grandeur or turning into a power-drunk fuckwit. But I guess you won't see that unless someone, preferably MC or narrator, points this little tidbit to you.

I see nothing wrong with it, other than maybe we only see her legs in the second panel.

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That's what make the manga so nonsensical. If someone manages to get the power of a god, why would he wants to go back to be a mere mortal?

There are no such things as a universal "should" and a universal "deserve", good things happen to bad people all the time and those same bad people never have to pay the piper but instead get to live full lives and die in peace while surrounded by their wealth, so there's no reason why failures shouldn't just randomly turn into overpowered ubermenschen beyond you getting triggered by shit like "fairness".

Maybe he enjoys being a mortal? Let's pretend he flaunts his almighty power and somehow general populace does not try to lynch him and governments leave him alone too. What next?
Everyone will be afraid of him, some assholes sycophants will try to manipulate him. He will always be alone with no one to rely on, no one to trust.

You don't get your powers, you return to earth as a normal human and go wageslaving, get pushed around again and not loved since irl love doesn't exist without gold digging and pettyness.

Why should he keep his powers? that's even more wishfullment, gods send you back with no powers.

After beating the demon lord you should grow enough backbone to not let others push you around. In most cases being a loser is tied to the state of one's mind.

It's about personality and competency user. If you give a random beggar 1 billion dollars, he almost definitely won't be able to keep it.

Bullshit. With everything he has, he can just claim he is the chosen one, the messiah who emerges to fulfill ancient prophecies, millions of people will turn into his faithful worshipers and government will be forced to obey his will.

Enjoy wageslaving, you don't think you'll suddenly be a millionaire and have real friends and lovers right?

Oh, I was being trolled.
Are you sure you addressed your post correctly?

>no counterargument
>accusing people of being trolls

Rape is fun everywhere, as long as you don't get caught.

You objectively know nothing about airplanes, let alone engines, let alone the various fuel/material sources used in them, let alone the refining process needed to actually make them useful. The reality is that you actually can learn all of these skills, but here's the funniest part, you never fucking will.

If you actually like this type of trash garbage, you are too useless to actually survive.

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Apparently it's a thing now for anime to just skip the first part of Isekai stories because they're all the same. So they just jump to the harem part which is also the same but everyone's just here for big fuckin anime titties anyways.

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Your post was the height of stupidity. You can't really expect that everyone will see you as a god, right? Or that elites won't try everything they could to murder you? With your great ideas, you will rule the kingdom of ashes, provided you won't die like a bitch during word war you started yourself.

You're trading god mode for normal no power life, enjoy waging until your death which will probably be you getting killed by a robber or war.

There is no such thing as a universal should or deserve, obviously. But that doesn't change the fact that complete failures at life are complete failures for a reason. Pretending otherwise is both nonsensical, and shit writing.

>You can't really expect that everyone will see you as a god, right?
You literally just need to walk on water and a big chunk of Christians will believe you.
>Or that elites won't try everything they could to murder you?
That's the point of being an isekai returnee. With your godly power, you fear no assassin. Then you can turn the masses' hatred toward the elites and make them love you more.
>With your great ideas, you will rule the kingdom of ashes, provided you won't die like a bitch during word war you started yourself.
If you win fast enough, the world will stay intact. At worst you can just rebuild it to your image.

Only works if MC is butt fucking ugly.

>Sounds more like a supervillain with every word he speaks.
>Doesn't understand why staying in the fantasy world is bad.
Like clockwork.

Wait, how do you even do that? When I'm dreaming I'm barely rational and run fully on dream logic.When I try to check for dreaming, I usually try to feel pain, convince myself that I probably felt pain and then figure the world is real.
And if I do figure out I'm dreaming, my first instinct is to try to wake up. I usually go through several dreams-in-dreams before I succeed.
What the fuck even is "infusing consciousness"?

MC of that manga did not resign his powers, he resigned from using them carelessly.
If I were isekai'd I would return only if I were able to retain at least part of my powers, as some sort of award for saving the world.
I have no idea what your point is.

>You literally just need to walk on water and a big chunk of Christians will believe you.
Read the Bible, you cretin. Christians will see you as a literal antichrist and go ballistic on your ass.
>With your godly power, you fear no assassin.
You are strong but not unbeatable, you idiot. You make one mistake and you are dead.
>Then you can turn the masses' hatred toward the elites and make them love you more.
They will hate you even more.
>If you win fast enough, the world will stay intact.
You will not. Conquering the world is not the problem, consolidating, on the other hand, is.
>At worst you can just rebuild it to your image.
You are not capable enough to do that.

>If you win fast enough, the world will stay intact. At worst you can just rebuild it to your image
Case and point why everyone who watches this shit would rape a woman day one, if in the same position of their favorite self insert fantasy.

Bro,

Stop backtracking, you want everyone to go back to the normal world over an isekai world because friends and family.
Now you want to keep the powers? you go back as a normal no power loser like everyone else.

>Doesn't understand why staying in the fantasy world is bad.
You literally can't provide any reason, other than "Muh loved ones".
>Christians will see you as a literal antichrist and go ballistic on your ass.
Doesn't matter. They will be forced to obey your orders, since it will hasten the end day, which is their most sincere wish.
>You are strong but not unbeatable
With millions of worshipers, you will have enough protections. No politician will try to hurt you since they don't want to deal with millions of fanatical terrorists blowing everything up.
>They will hate you even more.
Nope if you give them someone else to hate, like the elites they always hate.
>You will not. Conquering the world is not the problem, consolidating, on the other hand, is.
>You are not capable enough to do that.
Faith is the case user. You loyal servants will run things for you.

Much as I love my friends and family, if I had to abandon them to stay with my slave harem I would without a second thought.

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>You literally can't provide any reason, other than "Muh loved ones".
That's enough of a reason for 99% of people. Because most people have connections, and do care about their old life. If the main character does not, then he should be written accordingly.

Fuck off cunt. You misunderstood every post I made.
>They will be forced to obey your orders, since it will hasten the end day, which is their most sincere wish.
They will go allah akbar on you.
>With millions of worshipers, you will have enough protections. No politician will try to hurt you since they don't want to deal with millions of fanatical terrorists blowing everything up.
These fanatical terrorists will try to get you, instead of some no-name politicians.
>Nope if you give them someone else to hate, like the elites they always hate.
Masses always hate the biggest bad they know and that would be you. Elites will manipulate them to hate you even more.
>Faith is the case user. You loyal servants will run things for you.
You will have no loyal servants, you idiot. Only a bunch of sycophants and people trying to figure your weakness to kill you.

Nope, you get no powers faggot.
Now defend going back to earth without them.
>muh loves ones and I'll definitely be a chad now

You seem to be completely disregarding the concept of them developing loved ones and people they consider to be family in the new world as well. It's not a clear cut answer one whether they should stay or go but an attempt should at least be made to contact their family if they were transmigrated, if reincarnated their family has moved on and they should accept that.

>Now defend going back to earth without them.
To bash your skull in, for one.

Someone finally says it!

>They will go allah akbar on you.
And you tell me to read the Bible...
Listen up you retard, Christians want to hasten the second coming, and Christ won't come until the Antichrist rules the world. So if the Antichrist emerges, they will have him to come to power and wait for Christ to return.
>These fanatical terrorists will try to get you, instead of some no-name politicians.
I am talking about the worshipers you would have...
>Masses always hate the biggest bad they know and that would be you. Elites will manipulate them to hate you even more.
Leave your basement and get some news. The masses always hate elites and any public figure appearing to fight them will be loved by them, see what's happening in the US and UK.
>You will have no loyal servants, you idiot. Only a bunch of sycophants and people trying to figure your weakness to kill you.
If you can't even understand that there are always hoards of dudes who are waiting for a charismatic leader to lead them in the battle against the establishment, you are an imbecile and there is no point of continuing to talk to you.

BUENO

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>Yes they fucking do.
Chill out sperg no they're not. They're wageslaves approaching 30s who were born by wageslave parents in their 40's and wageslaves don't live that long. That explains their retardation too.

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>Because it encourages that kind of thinking.
Would you call it problematic?

This book teaches you how to cannibalize airplane parts for your apocalypse greenhouse lol

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>run fully on dream logic
Well maybe raping perfectly fine unconscious woman is just my logic. Read lucid dreaming guide first step is remembering to look at your hands then trying to put one into another.

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If I rape her fast enough - does this even count?

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tiny hat's tiny brain

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Too bad, you have to go to work hahahaha.
b-but user YOU CAME BACK TO YOUR LOVED ONES AND CAN MAKE FRIENDS
Who cares about god tier powers.

You're 8 years old.

>And you tell me to read the Bible...
>Listen up you retard, Christians want to hasten the second coming, and Christ won't come until the Antichrist rules the world. So if the Antichrist emerges, they will have him to come to power and wait for Christ to return.
This fucking board amazes me more and more every year.
Do you see Christians murdering each other hoping for kingdom come? Do they sacrifice hordes of babies to trigger God so much he says "Enough, time for Har Megiddo"? Do you know anything about their religion?
>I am talking about the worshipers you would have...
And I keep saying, you will have none or handful at most. Only retards will worship you, probably hardcore Satanists thinking you are Lucifer unbound or some shit. Every religion will see you as an enemy. For Christians you are antichrist, for Jews you are an asshole who destroyed the market, for Muslims you are probably some evil genie, for Buddhists you are demon aiming to bring chaos. Even fucking neopagans will see you like Loki's avatar or something similar and will battle you to earn Valhalla. Atheists will try to get you too.
>Leave your basement and get some news. The masses always hate elites and any public figure appearing to fight them will be loved by them, see what's happening in the US and UK.
Guess what, now you are the biggest and baddest elite of the world. And for that you will be hated.
>If you can't even understand that there are always hoards of dudes who are waiting for a charismatic leader to lead them in the battle against the establishment, you are an imbecile and there is no point of continuing to talk to you.
You have a charisma of deranged hobo, no one will ever want you to lead them.

>essafag at it again

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Those are problematic loved ones and they should be abandoned.
The loved ones made while under effect of cheat powers doesn't count.
It's only decent of MC to shake off these fake attachments and go back to the true ones.

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>You seem to be completely disregarding the concept of them developing loved ones and people they consider to be family in the new world as well.
I'm disregarding it because that is no excuse to abandon the life you have and the people that helped you become the person you are. Obviously, things are different if you can communicate or travel back and forth. But if you can't, then you should never stay in the world with the people you've only known for, at best, a year or two.

>if reincarnated their family has moved on and they should accept that.
It's not reincarnation if you died with your memory, body, and sense of self still completely intact. And there is a chance that your family and friends haven't moved on, and would be overjoyed if you came back.

>Chill out sperg no they're not.
Yes, they do. I'm sure a group of people exist that do not have any people that care about them. But most people, no matter what they might think, do have people that care and love them.

No, just unhealthy and kind of disgusting.

>the life you have
What life? Most of isekai protags don't have anything but wageslaving.

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>b-but user YOU CAME BACK TO YOUR LOVED ONES AND CAN MAKE FRIENDS
Who cares about god tier powers.
You literally sound like a fucking fantasy villains right about now.

>and the people that helped you become the person you are
This one actually makes sense: I'd love to return one day with cheat powers for revenge.
>But if you can't, then you should never stay in the world with the people you've only known for, at best, a year or two.
I guess nobody should ever immigrate IRL huh
>there is a chance that your family and friends haven't moved on
And you gonna explain them that in a new isekai body stepping outside of magic portal right?

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>Yes, they do.
We're talking about isekai protags, are you still keeping that in mind?
No they're not. And even if they do - it might not be enough to warrant looking for a way back, if there even is one.

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>The loved ones made while under effect of cheat powers doesn't count.
Who are you to judge that? That what is fake and what is real?

Again, if that is the case then the main character would be a failure in the fantasy world as well. You don't go through life doing nothing without being a massive failure at something.

>This one actually makes sense: I'd love to return one day with cheat powers for revenge.
Just more evidence that only the mentally disturbed like the Isekai fantasy.

>I guess nobody should ever immigrate IRL huh
Most people don't immigrate on their own. Nor do they cut all contact with the people from their former life if possible.

>And you gonna explain them that in a new isekai body stepping outside of magic portal right?
Yes.

>unhealthy and kind of disgusting
Leaving life you don't enjoy behind and embarking on a glorious frontier adventure with cheats given by God?
You sound dumb.

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>wanting a better life
>fantasy villain

>We're talking about isekai protags, are you still keeping that in mind?
I am. And my point is that most Isekai protagonists are fucking awful characters.

Why are you responding seriously again?
>the main character would be a failure in the fantasy world as well
But that's wrong you fucking halfwit people can spend all their lives doing things they're bad at and nothing like for it like Japanese wageslaving culture that puts needs of Company above individual workers.
Also Cheats.

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Not necessarily

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Considering how you seem adamant in your choice to literally cut and run on the people who aided and supported you after being isekai'd you aren't much better user.

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>Wanting a better life by abandoning everybody you love in favour of having godlike powers.
Yes.

Pushing the idea that the problems with your life are the result of the world, rather than yourself, and that dying might result in you ending up in a world that does appreciate you is unhealthy.

>mentally disturbed
You lost mate?
>Most people don't immigrate on their own.
Do they have magic fairies carry them? Why 90% of workers in CA IT company I visited were 1st or 2nd generation asian migrants then?
>Nor do they cut all contact with the people from their former life if possible.
If possible because it's 21st century and those relatives are phone call away. If it would be a hassle you bet 90% would take better life in immigration over shitty life in some shithole, but together with the rest of unfortunate sods.
>Yes
You're retarded.

How much do you love your family and friends? do you regularly say you love them? do you hug and hang out with them earnestly?if not then fuck off hypocrite.

>But that's wrong you fucking halfwit people can spend all their lives doing things they're bad at and nothing like for it like Japanese wageslaving culture that puts needs of Company above individual workers.
There is a difference between doing a job you dislike and literally having no life whatsoever to speak of.

>Also Cheats.
Like I said, shit writing.

When did I ever say that is what I would do? If I was Isekai'd, I would spend all of my time and effort on getting back. For all of its flaws, I do like the life I currently have.

>are fucking awful characters
They're usually not great, not terrible.
You resorting to extremes just prematurely outs you as a troll.

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>Wanting a better life by abandoning everybody you love in favour of having godlike powers.
How about people who immigrate from 3rd world countries to Western ones to seek a better life? Are they villains too?

>Pushing the idea that the problems with your life are the result of the world, rather than yourself, and that dying might result in you ending up in a world that does appreciate you is unhealthy.
I dunno, I never thought of it that way, because they're a fucking work of fiction.

>You lost mate?
Most people on Yea Forums are not mentally disturbed. Just assholes.

>Do they have magic fairies carry them?
No, they travel with their family.

>If it would be a hassle you bet 90% would take better life in immigration over shitty life in some shithole
People only start mass immigrating when the situation in their home country gets bad enough. And even then, they pretty much always try to keep at least some connections from their old life.

>by abandoning everybody you love
Why do you arbitrary assume isekai protagonist have such people in their lives on Earth?

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The point in magic worlds is that you get rewarded for your effort with increase in magic and skills unlike real life where nothing matters except how evil and heartless you are to make it to the top.

Nah the world is shit objectively and you must be one daft cunt to not see it.

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>How much do you love your family and friends?
I love them quite a bit. If anything, I'm almost kind of resentful of how much they helped me. Because I feel it invalidates my own accomplishments.

Most immigrants do not sound like supervillains, and still try and care for the people they love.

And?

>it's fiction bruh
No an argument, you're probably a cuck too.
>she's just having sex with other men

>There is a difference between doing a job you dislike and literally having no life whatsoever to speak of.
Japan had to think up special word for death from overwork. If watching all that anime still didn't hint you about how much free time regular nip wageslave has in his life - consider suicide. Numerous isekai protags literally worked themselves to death with 3 weekends per year (new year) and sleeping at the company.

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what if his op abilities come at the price of spending memories, emotions, senses, and even vague things like 'friendships', 'relationships', and 'wellbeing'.
basically 'the ultimate sacrifice ability', trade sufficiently worthy enough things to save the world
and so he got super fucked up doing this shit and his one relationship with his one true waifu was the final thing he had to sacrifice to save his waifus life against the demon lord or whatever

>they travel with their family.
Bullshit. They all have families back in asia because they used unis to immigrate into US and get a job.
>People only start mass immigrating when the situation in their home country gets bad enough.
You're saying people never migrate for better life to another country? What kind of boondocks genetic throwback are you? Young people move to other countries for better prospects or just sheer novelty all the time.

>supervillains
Is this a new type of insults?

Most of them are utter trash. Don't try to pretend otherwise.

Because most people do. And the only reason Isekai protagonist do not is because they are awful characters.

That's the most stupid reason possible. The only people that actually think that way are children, or people that are already evil and heartless.

what it would need is HEISTS, including the heist setups, which could involve stealing OTHER shit like magical items to defeat the defenses of whatever castle or bank they're planning to rob, then staking out the location incognito to figure out the layout of the place they wanna rob, then getting a team for it, and finally robbing it.
basically gta online heists: fantasy edition, as a isekai manga.

>tfw getting upset at the last couple chapters of BIG
All nobility needs to be purged, like right now.

>Don't try to pretend otherwise.
What are you going to do call my opinion problematic?
>Because most people do.
Who are most people and why do you assume that isekai are stories about them?
>That's the most stupid reason possible.
>moving to world with magic for magic is stupid
Your fingers are stupid cut them off.

Rape can cure evil lolis

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Japan is a flawed country. But even there, if you don't any kind of life to speak off. Then you are the problem, not the country.

>They all have families back in asia because they used unis to immigrate into US and get a job.
If that is the case, then they'll still do anything in their power to be reunited with their family.

>You're saying people never migrate for better life to another country?
When did I ever imply that? The part where I said that MASS immigration doesn't happen unless the situation gets bad enough?

Sauce?

>MC get summoned to another world, and his dick gain the power of purifying corrupted demongirls by defeating and raping them
Can a isekai plot be any better than this?

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>And?
You fucks are assuming that isekai trash are some powerful wrongvirtue-signalling devices that can influence impressionable minds, holy shit

>Then you are the problem, not the country.
>People are responsible for putting up with Black Heart company practices
>Victim blaming
Kudos.

>What are you going to do call my opinion problematic?
If you want.

>Who are most people
Not antisocial sociopaths.

> and why do you assume that isekai are stories about them?
Because most Isekai protagonists are not written like antisocial sociopaths.

>moving to world with magic for magic is stupid
It's something a literal four year old wants. So yes, I do think it is stupid.

>feeling pain
Lepers don't feel pain.

>The only people that actually think that way are children, or people that are already evil and heartless.
i bet you believe in karma too

>then they'll still do anything in their power to be reunited with their family.
They don't you dumb twat why do you think they're still in US and families back in Asia? Because families aren't qualified enough to get citizenship.
>The part where I said that MASS immigration
So you just post stuff unrelated to discussion and immigration for better life is possible and common?
The fuck are you arguing about then if people move to other countries for better life all the time?

>It's something a literal four year old wants.
Than all our pedo ring occult elite are 4 years old I guess.

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>You fucks are assuming that isekai trash are some powerful wrongvirtue-signalling devices that can influence impressionable minds, holy shit
The main demographic of Isekai is suicidal nerds and neets. I think telling those people "The world is the problem, things might be better if you die." is not a good thing.

Millions of people in Japan do still have a life despite putting up with Black Heart company practices.

>new chapter of the biggest native doormat villainess

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In a non spiritual sense, sure.

>Because families aren't qualified enough to get citizenship.
Yet, they still try and get them to the US regardless.

>So you just post stuff unrelated to discussion and immigration for better life is possible and common?
No, I wasn't. Read my posts again.

Those people are just insane.

>Those people are just insane.
So 4 years old or insane make up your mind.

So, how's that isekai-boom-and-suicide-rates correlation doing so far?

>why couldn't you fight on on literally zero food for a month like these dudes from literal myth
My god, fuck nobles and fuck the chairforce.

Nah the ones that use the fiction argument have nothing else to say.
You believe the world is good and the elites are good people don't you? a lost cause you are, surprised you haven't brought up mass immigration is good for society yet

>So 4 years old or insane make up your mind.
Adults that think like a four year old are usually insane.

>So, how's that isekai-boom-and-suicide-rates correlation doing so far?
I mean, it's Japan. Suicide rates are pretty much always high over there.

>You believe the world is good and the elites are good people don't you?
The world is neither fundamentally good or evil. And the elite deserve to have their wealth and power stripped away, violently if necessary.

>"You've exposed this whole thing as a giant jester's performance. How on earth is two bowls of porridge and two pieces of black bread supposed to be enough to keep a fighting man fit for months on end?"
Well, Yea Forums, how do you stretch two pieces of bread and two bowls of porridge per person in a 800 man company so it lasts them for like 2 months while holed up in a castle under siege?

>the only reason Isekai protagonist do not is because they are awful characters
They don't return because they have massive amounts of power in the new world. Not wanting to given up power is not an indicator of a bad character.

If they're insane why are they so rich?

>I mean, it's Japan. Suicide rates are pretty much always high over there.
'Tis a moot point then. Or do we we have to wait for some freaky evening news akin to kids jumping off buildings because they tried to imitate Naburo or Kokemon?

>Overlord
>No father, mom died making a sandwich, mentally agumented as a kid, works as wageslave since middle school age, any and all friends left for better prospects, is a magical Overlord of god-tier beings in isekai as well as ruler of a nation, master of magic and conspiracy, spends time protecting NPC which he considers his friends children
>Risou no Himo no Seikatsu
>Parents died, uncle took care of him, MC is grateful to his foster family and takes some time with them for farewells before isekai to marry 12/10 brown queen and to be a goddamn royalty, starts a family in isekai and works hard for it's sake
>Isekai Maou
>Social anxiety MMO-addict, gets isekaid into his game immediately gets 100lvl godlike powers and a starter harem of catgirl and tittyelf, spends time HELPING them resolve their issues and bonding
>Man picked up by Gods
>Earth God gives unfair trials to MC that he has no hopes to complete in modern day Japan, dies to sneezing wrong. Mom is dead father was a tyrant spent rest of the time as wageslave. Isekai gods take pity on him and reborn him as mana conduit in another world, where he immediately establishes strong familial and friendship ties to the locals as well as starts a busiiness.
>Isekai Vending Machine
>Vending Machine enthusiast becomes vending machine, literally his dream came true.
>Konosuba
>NTR PTSD Otaku saves girl but pisses himself to death, can actually go back but is rich and accomplished in isekai so why bother, also spends time helping isekaifriends and bonding
>Slime Tensei
>Ossan saves his kouhai from street slasher and dies a hero, helps impoverished and oppressed in Isekai
>Slave Harem Labyrinth
>MC literally looked for way to kill himself painlessly online, gets a harem of beauties, powerful abilities to secure independence, joins isekai illuminati and fucks his slaves every night

YOU'RE SICK IF YOU DON'T GIVE IT ALL THAT UP FOR YOUR MUM!

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Seriously what does the prince see in her other than that she likes reading books all day everyday?

If they are supposed to be the hero, then yes it is.

Inheritance or they only went off the deep end after they became rich.

People were killing themselves because they believed they would end up in a fictional world even before Isekai was a thing. That still doesn't make it healthy.

She's a nice cute thing with no ambition that won't scheme behind his back to get more power for herself.

MC fashion.
She is attractive cause she is the main girl.

good thing she did all that stuff off camera to get everyone approval, princess side character is a real princess now and can stand in the background of scenes with pride from now on

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hit that bitch with a hoe

>shitty power fantasies with awful main characters.
What a fucking awful genre.

People were killing themselves (and others along with them), because they believed they would end up in a fictional world surrounded by 72 virgins even before Isekai was a thing.
Unhealthy indeed.

>becomes the crowned princess when she literally dindu nuffin but read book

Wait
Isn't this from a book? Thomas Covenant the unbeliever?
It's not anime it's American novel from the 70s

Isekai is a new frontier that Earth lacks.
Isekai is slave harem for easy intimacy without need to be a social person and spend effort building up trust.
Isekai has System with levels that allows you to quantify your progress and success without relying on vague IRL social leaderboard where winners are all pedosatanists.
Isekai has Cheats that gives you a nice headstart.
Isekai has healing magic that can heal debilitating conditions or illness modern science is powerless against.
Isekai has magic, an entirely new field to explore for the curious.
Isekai allows MC to personally amass power that is otherwise impossible for individual to hold IRL without relying on thousands, hundreds thousands, millions of subordinates.
Isekai thus allows you to be The Hero: single-handedly saving people or entire nations, even the world, from situations that would otherwise require cooperation of great mass of people with only meager achievements left for the individuals.
Isekai has immortality and race change on the table.
Isekai has no SJW or communism and you can kill goblins when they ooga booga on your lawn.

You're fucking retarded if you think it's sane to give that all up just to see your family again as a grownup. I suspect essayfag is an underage still latched onto his mommy tit and doesn't understand the distance relatives gain between each other with age.

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rape is always fun

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>That's enough of a reason for 99% of people.
Yeah, because people never betray each other here on Earth or choose to move away for a better life.

I enjoy it, I feel zero shame about it, I don't care what you think of it or me.
I'd gladly leave my life behind for an average isekai setting with cheats and I don't care what you think of this either.
Cry me a river faggot isekai is best thing that happened to nip mediums in decades. I hope it would last to the point where everything japan makes is isekai so you would bleed from your eyes to death.

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Has he forgotten all about his imouto due to MUH OP DRUG SKILLZ of was she also in the isekailand but both aren't aware of it?

>choose to move away for a better life
I think he's saying those who do are bad people and when there's too much of them imigrating for him to call bad people - they must be running from some catastrophe or war. There's no other way in the mind of that retard. He must be blind not seeing all those foreign students leaving their homelands literally in flocks to live abroad never to turn back.

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I might be thinking of different series but isn't his imouto an /x/ yandere and currently coming to get him though some eldrich ritual?

>supposed to be the hero, then yes it is.
No Hero works without powers. A hero who gives up all of his powers to run away and become mundane again is a failure.

That's the right thing to do user think of your mom!

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What about something similar, but that alone isn't enough to purify them? Instead get them pregnant and killing the demon they give birth to instead, and that just removes corruption, but the girl keeps her appearance.

>Literally just a childish power fantasy.
Imagine never growing up.

Enjoy it all you like. At the end of the day, it's a trash genre made for trash people with trash dreams. Nothing you say will change that simply fact.

>This is what modern fantasy fans actually believe.
It's honestly kind of amazing how much fantasy has degraded as a genre.

That's not what I said. Read my posts again.

>
Stopped reading there. Your opinion doesn't matter go cry on your mamas lap about how user is degenerate.

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>There's no other way in the mind of that retard
I realize but i still wanted to point out that he's rarted

>all 100ish members of /isekai/ get isekai'd to the same generic fantasy world with magic powers and feudal kingdoms
>6 element magic system with incantations powered by muh imagination
>some get summoned as heroes to kingdoms, some as demon lords or devils by cultists, some get reincarnated as civilians, some get reincarnated as nobles, some as demihumans
>/isekai/ anons are average in every element except 1 they are amazing at
>nobody is powerful enough to topple nations alone
>you get 1 unique non elemental power
What element and power do you choose? What social position do you hope for and what are your aspirations?

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Not a argument.

This post gave me objectivity.
>Read my posts again.
They all say you're underage retard with pink glasses.

>resorts to 'it's just fiction dude'
Concession accepted, I'll be sure to tell god not to isekai you since you want to be with your earth family.

Why would I make any for a dude that thinks coming back to earth in a different body after reincarnating in isekai is a good idea?
You're clearly retarded.

why does it seem like in every thread lately theres an autist that willingly enters threads about things he doesnt like to tell everyone how wrong he thinks they are

it happens frequently but not with this amount of dedication lmao

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I don't know what else to say. I never said any of the things you pretended I said.

>resorts to 'it's just fiction dude'
Again, never said that.

Can you people just not read?

>all 100ish members of /isekai/
>what are your hopes
Sturdy handles to grip onto during the short violent trainwreck that would undoubtedly follow.

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>Why would I make any for a dude that thinks coming back to earth in a different body after reincarnating in isekai is a good idea?
Again, never said that.

Because it's very easy to criticize and mock Isekai.

>it's not me it was other user
I accept your defeat. Nuffin personell.

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>element
Water because muh healing and okay offensive power
>power
Teleportation. I can only teleport a small group of people and I can only teleport to places I have been.
>social status
Noble but with enough freedom to do what I want. I know you retards would start doing really retarded shit so I would go around healing people and become the messiah.

but its everywhere else too and that fight is better fought fighting shounenshit at least those were excluded in history
this guy or group seems to be targetting lolis too

There is nothing wrong with male valkyries.

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>-ish
If only I could punch through the monitor people who type/speak like that.

The only one accepting defeat is you. Considering you have to make stuff up to pretend you have a point to make.

Like, either point to the arguments you claim I made or fuck off.

Shit Bocchi fast.

You and me both

>discord trannies raiding Yea Forums
More news at 11

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>The only one accepting defeat is you.
Yes, that's what happens here. You lost the moment you started backpedaling.

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Again, it's easy to mock Isekai. Shounen is also easy to mock, but there are few anime fans that don't have at least one shounen they kind of like.

Who are you quoting retard?

rape element, town rapist

Besides 29 year old how many isekai MCs get raped?

What backpedaling? You being a lying coward that had to make stuff up is not the same thing as me backpedaling.

when is it okay to rape a girl Yea Forums?
I need to make sure I'm doing the right thing

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I would choose Dark element so I can sneak around and turn myself into a shadow. My power would be to make any woman fall for me. I am an adventurer and I go around impregnating every princess on the continent.

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>shitposts himself into a corner
>it w-wasn't m-me I s-swear!
>s-show me the p-proof!
Pathetic.

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>29 year old
Who?
When you can't be caught or can't be prosecuted obviously.

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>isekai'd as devil
>get amazing darkness element
>no cap on my power
>will topple nations anyway because fuck your limits faggot
>anons will be sacrificed to chaos gods for more power
>girl and feminine anons will be my slaves

>Blade play
>60+ pages of smut isekai
Bless you user.

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That one with the girl who date raped the MC and got him to rape an assassin.

I haven't made one single shitpost. Stop pretending you didn't just make shit up.

Still, if you want me to continue my rant towards Isekai. Then i'll just say that it's bad because it's a unhealthy power fantasy for people that never grew up. On top of that, it's also genuinely dangerous to impart the idea that the world is the problem and that dying would result in traveling to a fantasy world.

>Element
Earth so I can mold stones around my body like a knight's armor and use my rock fists to beat up monsters.
>Unique Power
Enhanced Regeneration so any damage I take will be healed faster than normal.
>Social Position
Commoner

My goal is to travel the world as the adventurer known only as Gran-Knight and using my brawling skills to defeat monsters.

I trade in all my magic talent to turn any /isekai/ person into a powerless little blond girl and then rape them

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>I haven't made one single shitpost.
>doubt.jpg
>unhealthy power fantasy for people that never grew up
Follow that road and all entertainment is.
>genuinely dangerous to impart the idea that the world is the problem and that dying would result in traveling to a fantasy world.
Anyone who takes this idea at face value is retarded and deserves to die, should they choose to kill themselves over such dumb reasons.
You should also follow them, for considering this possibility for sane people.

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Will you take volunteers?

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>Follow that road and all entertainment is.
Yes. Because people totally watch schindler's list for the power fantasy aspect.

>Anyone who takes this idea at face value is retarded and deserves to die
You don't even mention why you think it's retarded. So, I guess you have no reason.

>Shindlers list
That movie has an unappreciated hero MC that's literally low-key capeshit of course people watch it for self-inserting.
>You don't even mention why you think it's retarded.
Why what retarded? Seriously believing there's cheat slave harem isekai paradise waiting for you on the other end of aspeeding truck?

I say again: if you need reasons for why this is retarded - you should kill yourself now and save yourself and others lot of trouble.

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Power > everything else

Not enough.

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>That movie has an unappreciated hero MC that's literally low-key capeshit of course people watch it for self-inserting.
If you seriously believe this, then you are actually a sociopath and should get help.

>Seriously believing there's cheat slave harem isekai paradise waiting for you on the other end of aspeeding truck?
People have blown themselves up for less.

>sociopath
Nah my mother had me tested.
>People have blown themselves up for less.
Who are we to protect those retards from themselves?

It's never enough.

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tbdesu, I understand Makoto. I would probably see them more as sisters than lovers.

What isekai is this? Google search gives me trippy patterns

Seirei Gensouki

I wonder if that's meant to be a lie or a LN change, because the WN I think he went there looking for a prostitute.

They can be both. And at least he changes his mind later and wouldn't say no if it came up again.

>Nah my mother had me tested.
Then she either failed, or you have some other issue that makes you unable to understand why people watch fiction outside of "POWER FANTASY!"

>Who are we to protect those retards from themselves?
Good people.

It wasn't changed, he's lying.

I still wish we had even a single line in later chapters about thinking to try it again, but fear of those two stopping him, even when offered free use much later.