Dragon Ball Super

GUYS I GOT ANOTHER SCREENSHOT FROM MY INSIDER
TEEN GOHAN??
RADITZ??
BEAT??
TRUNK!?!?!?!?!
HOLY SHIT CAN'T WAIT FOR THE CANON CHADIME'S RETURN
FUCK MORO
FUCK TOYO FAGS
BASED CANON CHADIME

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Any Dragon Ball Saiyan Girls that we like?

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Gohan

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In don't know about that, but what I know is that UI is a transformation and a power up that requires God ki in order to be accessed.

Gine is the best.

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So much headcanon

I don't know about that.
But I do know is that Vegeta has never defeated Goku.

Dragon Ball killed itself with Super Saiyan. That needed to be the end of the series. Now it's just unlocking a new transformation, waiting until people get bored of it, deciding it's not powerful enough any more, and then unlocking another new transformation.

QUEERen preschooler

W-What the fuck?? D-Did I just win??

Use your real voice next time.

But what is after UI ? Grand padre?

Why is he fucked?

Only headcanon part is the god ki part.

Say it ain't so

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If any hint of good sense is left in Toriyama then there wont be anything beyond UI, at best Goku will use it while in SSB

BEND OVER YAMCHA

Why does she look like a Cartoon?

>offtopic vocaroo spam
You know what to do gentlemen.

I like Bejita

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That sounds like cancer. Im hoping for a multi universal reset

Enter my whore of an ex-wife chino

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It doesn't fucking matter what's next. Something will be next. And in ten years, everyone will be using Ultra Instinct.

It'll just fucking escalate, like it always does. But he can't possibly fight a stronger enemy than the strongest in the multiverse, right? Bullshit.

That was just the current strongest fighter in the multiverse. We can still have somebody stronger from the future, the strongest enemy in this timeline. Then the strongest enemy from some other timeline. Then some bullshit asspull enemy from beyond time and the multiverse.

It's just endless "this is the strongest enemy there is, so here's Goku's strongest form ever". Until there's a stronger enemy and a stronger form.

>Jesus
>White
Discarded

Weaker than Goku

How do these threads continue to fall lower and lower?

Exit Jesus
Enter SATAN

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He's not actually white, that's just how they draw him. The Japanese think he looks Japanese, too.

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Japanese don't even believe in that garbage, retard.

This is Jesus's real face, stop with the cultural appropriation of the BLUE EYES WHITE CHAD!

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Do you like Goku?

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>moeshitter coming into the CHADS' DEN OF INTELLECTUALISM
you dare?
You dare?
YOU FUCKING DARE?
KNOW YOUR PLACE, DOG. OUT. OUT OF THIS BASTION OF MASCULINITY. AT ONCE.

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Vic

>off topic
Do it, gentlemen.

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HOLY BASED
t. Jirenscholar

BASADO

With a quality of the show decreasing so does the quality of person who watches and chooses to discuss the show.

Threads and shows are tied. And the only way for a DB threads to ever increase in quality at this point is for the show to end.

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>shit abs genetics
Good thing CHADchad cha Chad has a perfect physique.

The show ended 2 years ago jackoff.

Japan couldn't care less about Christiancucks and Christianity.
Anime >>> Jesus

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Would his power be 2x infinite?

>With a quality of the show decreasing
>is for the show to end.
The show ended over a year ago. There is a manga that comes out once a month and gets discussed for a few days and then it's back to the shitposting. It's impressive how we managed to keep the threads going for 526 days with no new weekly episodes coming out

No it didn’t dumbfuck, with more movies planned and spim off series going in it will never end.

The requirement to post in this thread is 70iq and you are still too low of an IQ to post here

>Nobody talking about Chichi's VA incest voice clip

I'm very surprised.

those 2.3% still draw him with ugly Jap eyes, the point still stands

Oh gohan!

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>perfect physique
What was going on with Toriyama's mind when he drew him?

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There’s literally nothing else to talk about. New content for this series slowly releases and there’s a lot of downtime in between that.

Congratulations. You perfectly understood the point of the post.

We are waiting something from Z

Cell death attributed to age and cocaine.

The anime isn't canon.

For those who haven't heard it:
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Spics. Not even kidding.

Quiet, you sub-par retard.

is yamcha getting fucked by piccolo and guru canon?

Nobody care about Chichi

toriyama didn't draw that.

Said nobody with an IQ above 80.

Yes and don't forget that MR POPO DOES NOT FUCK

G-GOHAN DONO, STOP!! CHICHI IS FOR BEJITA ONLY!!!

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bitch it was in the namek saga when they pointlessly made captain ginyu, freeza, vegeta, and then goku stupidly OP for no reason. I mean, the same story is perfectly possible without such ridiculous leaps in power levels, which would have made progression much easier to rationalize, but of course toriyama is a hack and had to be a literal 10 year old about it. Like, make captain ginyu a 60k power level and he’d still be dominant over the 40k subordinates, make freeza 100k and he’s still way out of anyone’s league, make his final form like 200-300k and thats still hundreds of times stronger than anyone else. jumping to 500k and a million made power levels irredeemable, but of course toryiama went for the childish novelty of “HIS POWER LEVEL IS LIKE A BAZILLION NOW HURR”
We had Raditz dominating goku and piccolo in the same way that someone with a million would dominate someone with 25k, theres no reason to jump so high.
In fact, the real problem started with raditz. Could have made him like 400 to them same effect, then nappa could be like a 500, and the saibamen could have been like 300-400, and vegeta could have been 2000, and make Goku 600 so with 4 times he’s just over 2000 but it hurts him and the story is the same. make the great ape only double the power level so vegeta becomes 4000, then make freeza’s men 4000-5000 the ginyu force 6000-7000 with the captain as 8000, literally the same fights and story. then make freeza like 15k, 20k, 25k, and 30k in his final, etc.
You could have made power levels make sense but instead he decided to make the jumps way too high so naturally the way multiplication works, it got way out of hand when it didnt need to be.
I honestly thought Seven Deadly Sins would do it right but then they jumped to 30k-60k thousand and ruined it, now they’re pushing a million and shit and its the same stupid problem.

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I see what you mean.

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Cope

tl:dr not read or watching!

I wonder if Carlos masturbated to it.

the ointment saga was the most kino filler arc of the series

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PLEASE CHINO, THEY ARE MY KIDS TOO

I guess that means you consider yourself an above-average retard?

This one was pretty good

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ENTER Chadhan

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I SAID QUIET.

i too played ultimate tenkaiichi

you’re the one coping with your ridiculous power level headcanon after toryiama realized he made a mistake a long time ago and stopped counting.
>HE’S LIKE A 48484828292020929283837327 IN BLUE AND WITH KAO KEN THATS LIKE 383835848383&383&3@3@3393393&:&:’enekeirkkekeeoeoeoos49;9393938383929292828292&2&292828
and then every new villain has to be higher so your numbers become stupid high, power scaling doesn’t make any sense, and every new villain pisses off the fanbase

WHY ARE WE YELLING?

You are a spaz

who are you quoting?

>no caps
>childish gibberish
I bet money you are brown and from the southern hemisphere.

Weaker than Mr Satan

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I won.

I’m just thinking logically, you degenerate fap-brain imbeciles, maybe put your dick away for literally a day and you’d realize that I’m being perfectly clear and intellectual

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Alright bros, which one is the cutest
>Kid Goku
>Kid Gohan
>Cell arc Gohan
>Goten
>Kid Trunks

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as always, vechadta bro.

>Spaz explains why he is a autistic spaz.
Pretty sad desu.

look at those faggot ass clothes!

Cringe

how embarrassing that you self-regulate your own speech because you’re afraid of sticking out from a crowd of retards. I pity you, literal herd animal. Go stampede with the rest of your dopamine-fried braindead masses desperate to not say anything that makes you sound like you have a mind of your own. I hope you get plenty of (you)s and subscribers to your channel fuckboy

kid Raditz

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shut the fuck up you autistic cachinnating ingenious fecund little shitrenbitch. god you fuckers are cringe

So, if Gohan canonically fucked Chi-Chi, that means he can't be gay, thus meaning Goku's "My son's a fag" rant can't be about him.
Since Goku only has two sons (that we know of), the rant would have to be directed towards the one who has NOT canonically had a sexual relationship with a woman.
That leaves only Goten.
Meaning Truten is the canonical pairing.
It's been a decade, but where the fuck are my Truten bros at? WE FUCKING WON!

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he actually looks kinda badass in this one
if only they really did somehow make him stronger cause he had learned martial arts from many places but hes not as strong as krillin...

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Spaz continues to spaz, approaching maximum spazitude.

PIECE OF SHIT

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Super started strong, it died when veggitto defused
youtu.be/SuGF6oGyCvQ

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>What was going on with Toriyama's mind when he drew him?
Just give me my paycheck

>hur hur CRINGE CRINGE AUTISM HE NO CARE ABOUT FITTING IN, INITIATING OSTRACIZATION PROTOCOL #28383727, INSULT SELECTED, PROCEEDING WITH HIGH SCHOOL GIRL ROUTINE 36-B, *beeeeeeeep* YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND A MENTAL DISORDER CRINGE AUTISM NO GF GET A LIFE NEET SCHIZO WRONGTHINK HUUUUUR
watching someone attempt social ostracization in an anonymous environment is sad. I pity your stunted vocabulary and streamlined thought process, literal farm animal. Your occult pedo masters did their job well with you retards I see

holy fucking cringe. you're an actual textbook sperg. kill yourself

embarassing, like an actual highschool girl, then i suppose its only natural in an environment where grown men desire to be little girls. You’re an embarrassment to mankind, good job self-regulating, goyim cattle

Attempting a saiyan - angel hybrid would be too dangerous.

>just fucking babbling and screeching about absolutely nothing
MINDBROKEN.

>creates a strawman
>attacks the said strawman
>I-im just thinking logically

i want to see more of the loli angel in the series

This is sad, how do you spergs type these out with straight faces?

>Just like Goku wasn't fast enough to keep up with Jiren? Oh, wait, no, he was. It's retarded, but that's how UI works.
Goku was able to keep up with Jiren even before UI retard
A fusion, which is Goku's power and speed multiplied by the other participant, would be incredibly faster.
Gogeta would destroy UI Goku, because Gogeta's movements would be too fast for UI Goku to register

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Do you even know what you just said, you stupid fuck? This is what happens when you try to parrot Jirenscholars' indomitable lexicon, nothing but random, nonsense gibberish comes out. Pathetic taco gobbler. Capped.

>more seething cringe babble
you're literally a turgid mess of scintillating cosmic miasma. you're actually the cringiest poster on the entire fucking internet you whirlpool of fucking disingenuous avarice

>WRONGTHINK, INITIATING OSTRACIZE PROTOCOL: AUTISM SCHIZO SPERG SPAZ, MUST FILTER OUT ANOMALY, MUST FILTER ORIGINAL THOUGHTS, DANGER TO HIVEMIND DETECTED, DESTROY, EXTERMINATE, DOWNVOTE
just as embarrassing as I remember these generals being. go jack off to your cartoons faggots

Cringe, Vegeta would never cheat on Bulma

>comes into the CHADS' DEN
>spouts random nonsensical drivel
>whines about no one taking his dog ass seriously
>runs away

>pretends to do it on purpose after being called out
I'm imply too smart for your childish antics.
TOO
fucking
SMART.

>to register
you dont seem to understand the entire basis of ui. its about NOT taking the time to register anything and just react purely on instinct, which is far far faster than anything that makes deliberate movements.

the only thing that would out speed ui are things that move faster than the signals in his body. OR i suppose you could outlast his body. push to the absolute limit until he can no longer keep it up. thats what jiren did. he just attacked faster and faster until gokus body couldnt keep up the constant movement and he snapped out of ui

>ANOMALY DETECTED, INITIATING CATTLE DEFENSE FORMATION, *beeeeeeep*
>CRINGE SPERG SCHIZO AUTISM SPAZ, MUST SELF-REGULATE FOR PEDO ELITE

>I'm imply too smart
>IESLB
another superfluous rumination from a incandescent shitrenbitch.

I accept your concession.

I don't know about all that, but Jiren is the strongest.

>INITIATING LABEL PROTOCOL #23838272, PROCEEDING WITH OSTRACIZATION ATTEMPT: WRONGTHINK LABELED AS BETA, AUTHORIZED THOUGHT LABELED AS CHAD, INITIATING FILTER PROCESS

Cope, my precious puppy.

>and then every new villain has to be higher
>the absolute retardation of anti-power scalers
Every new villain IS higher, you dunce.
The power levels that faggot used were numbers used in the show.
The way he tried to explain his position was therefore justified, because you should have been able to understand the difference between someone of a pl of 1 million and of 25k, because these were used in the show (well 21k and 1 million, but still).
You're a retarded cuck who rides Screwattacks pussy (because they don't have balls).
Don't let me hear you talk bad about power levels again or else...

Reminder that Chadgito was wrecking an opponent 100 times stronger than him.
>SSB X Base Goku X Base Vegeta ? SSR X Base Goku Black X Zamasu
>Take out SSB Goku and SSR Golu Black becasue Black is at least as strong as Goku.
>Base Vegeta ? Zamasu
>Future Zamasu is at least as strong as SS2 Goku.
>Base Vegeta < Zamasu
>By a fucking 100 times difference.

The Smartest.

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>Most people rejected His message

Undefeated against Goku. 2-0.

>They hated Vegeta because He told them the truth

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>this post is off-topic

do you know what to do?

This thread is gayer than the entirety of Yea Forums

so is this one, gtfo

You know what to do with this off topic spam, gentlemen.

HOLY BASED

Gentlemen...

>WAHHHH NO U
Quiet, dog.

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>s-s-stop makin f-f-fun of me
all you retards are off topic, this is my thread. If you fuckers want to shitpost make a new thread and go there.

You’d think rival boost would be shit compared to being the same person but here we are.

I bet you thought you made a point in your head, or whatever is left of it after masturbating multiple times a day. My point is that toyriama himself could have made power levels rational if he maintained the tradition from the original show, which only required small, marginal differences to create the same dominatinf difference. Tao was only what, less than a 100 higher than goku? a double digit margin? and he is exactly as dominant as second form frieza over the z fighters. They never needed to jump so high with raditz to have the same effect, and the problem just exponentially multiplied from there, you cum-sucking retard

cope

i see that you are trying to fit in but you are failing miserably. Leave

>N-NO I OWN THIS THREAD
>fat moeshitter from reddit thinks he has any clout in this den of intellectual wit, wonderment, masculinity, and CHADishness
and stay there, mutt.

>Base Vegeta < Zamasu
you keep spamming this post and i know its bait, but how exactly did you reach this conclusion. how is vegeta weaker than zamasu. zamasu is nothing. hes barely stronger than kibito and kibito is weak as shit

>p-p-please leave s-so i don't feel so inferior...
QUIET, pet.

Vegeta has never once said that though.
He did say pic related.

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Quite impressive that Jiren is still the strongest.

imagine trying to ostracize and call yourself a chad while discussing a retarded children’s cartoon made by the biggest hack in the industry

He’s only somewhat weaker to SS2 Goku. SS2 is a 100 times boost. Bass Vegeta isn’t as strong as SS2 Goku.

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Use caps and punctuation if you are going to post here, you stupid, sub-par tourist.

Hercule is the strongest non Z-fighter regular human. Prove me wrong.

GODly has arrived.

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um, this encounter never happens in the manga. in the manga he fights kibito and then blue goku ragdolls him in like two hits, but at that point hes immortal so he heals and gets back up

>moedog enters the CHADS' DEN and proceeds to post with imperfect grammar
You fucking dare?

>still coping
get over it

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Non-canon but Hercule becomes slightly weaker than Cell with a power boost. Everyone else who got the same power boost only got like 2 times stronger.

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>Hercule
>Z Fighter
Dubdogs shall not be considered.

>its about NOT taking the time to register anything and just react purely on instinct
Whis explained it as being able to react without thinking which makes one significantly faster. Everything else is quite easily head canon.

>the only thing that would out speed ui are things that move faster than his body
FTFY

Gogeta, Vegetto and Broly would be faster than UI Goku.
Jiren was as quick as UI Goku.

Didn't you say the Super manga was non-canon though?
God, you really are a schizo

The mongrel has left the building.

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Graced and breadpilled

Oh ok. Did his powers ever hurt someone like Trunks?

Dub is unironically canon. Grannygokufags need to be hanged.

wow you REALLY dont get the concept behind ui. and jiren wasnt as fast as ui goku. jiren was really fast and stressing gokus body too much, but goku could still react faster than anything jiren could do

power level discussion after raditz is retarded. toryiama jumped the shark with the first dbz villain because he has the mind of a child and couldn’t think 2 seconds ahead, always pursuing a 10 year old’s fantasy of whatever seemed cool at the time without a second thought.
>like, what if his power level was like a MILLION and nobody stood a chance hahaha so epic and intimidating
>oh fuck i have to actually keep writing this manga, ok so like now I have to make the heroes have a million, but them the villain has to be like 50 million, but then fuck now the heroes have to catch up
and on and on and on until you realized you fucked up for brief shock value
embarrassing, now you’re resorting to being a grammar nazi to compensate for your sad, overdone ostracization routine? pathetic cattle

>literally changes the story into what it's not supposed to be
>canon
Cope.

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>evberyone i dont like and make fun of id leddit
It seems like you are quite familiar with that place schizo you should go back there it’s obvious to everyone you sont fit in here.

>still babbling
Begone, isekaibitch.

>Super Saiyan Full Power
I can't imagine what it would be like if he had God ki.

Isn’t Z-Fighter also used in the sub?

>evberyone
>dont like
>id leddit
>run-on sentence
>sont fit in
Get the FUCK back to Mexico.

There are people ITT who unironically prefer an old woman with a high pitch feminine voice as a voice actress for a male character

toryiama has the fans he deserves, I see

No you faggot

>B-B-BUT MUH FEE FEES
Dub is non-canon and irrelevant trash, cope.

Stronger? Yes (we all knew that).
However, your numbers are pure speculation.
Also, when we consider the fact that Zamasu was just a bit weaker than Vegeto, we can never get a hundred times difference, especially not when you yourself claimed that Goku is just as strong as Goku B.
M. Zamasu = 80 = Goku Black (50) + Zamasu (30)
Vegetto = 100 = SSB Goku (50) + SSB Vegeta (50).
That is what it would look like

>id don kno wat gren txt id
Lurk for 2 years or go back

>>evberyone
>>dont like
>>id leddit
>>run-on sentence
>>sont fit in
learn english retard, you made 5 mistakes in one post

>keeps obfuscating these hallowed threads which his perfunctory gibberish
I recommend my fellow Chads to completely ignore this drudgeon until he starts following the due decorum and starts typing correctly, like every adult must.

nothing is canon, now go masturbate to le pure nip women

>n-n-no greentexting ALWAYS has intentional typos I s-s-swear... n-n-newfag
This is beyond pathetic. Go back to your Mexican sub-reddit and stay there.

(You)

what an absolute CHAD

>OH YEAH WELL FUCK YOU IF THE DUB ISN'T CANON NOTHING IS WAHHHHHHHHH
Grow up.

I’m guessing whatever rival boost is could get past the 100 times difference. Though when Vegito transforms is his SSB also fused rather than having the same multiplier as non-fused characters?

But the sub isn’t canon. Before Super only the DB Manga really is along with some specials.

Imagine caring about Toriyama's opinion. He's a fucking hack. Dub is STILL the most popular form of Dragon Ball and nobody actually likes the sub. The only people who watch subs are those forced to because the dub has not released yet or retards and weebs with shit taste. Keep coping.

Going to go buy pizza. Don't do anything to my son while I'm gone.

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>damage controlling this pathetically
Kneel.

>argumentum ad populum
Didn't even read past this. Cope and kneel, you sad fucking sack. Your precious dub is non-canon and irrelevant, just like your pathetic 9-5 opinion. SEETHE.

>n-n-no i swear imb da greatestest 4channer evber
Yes, that is how you green text.
Isn’t it sad that no matter what you do your newness is apparent? Remain eternally BTFO

nope. he has a total number of 0 hits in on trunks. the only time he hurt trunks was when he threw his sword back at him while he was distracted by black, and the sword lightly nicked his cheek. trunks was actually gonna fight zamasu 1 on 1 in his base form but they got interrupted by black stabbing gowasu.

hes strong enough to bully shin though.

merged zamasu got bodied hard by vegito in the manga by the way

>anyone who likes thing in different way than me is retard hurrrr
Grow up.

Entire anime isn't canon. Stop spamming

Based

Retard

>this ESL newfag actually thinks the point of greentext is to intentionally misspell everything
I have no words for odious dogs like you. Begone.

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>RTH
Duburgers are so hilariously pathetic.

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>STOP WRONGTHINKING REEEEEEE TALK LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HURRR MUST SELF REGULATE ENVIRONMENT LIKE GOOD CATTLE

Cope. Hang yourself.
Hypocritical coping retard. Hang yourself.

>S-STOP TELLING IT LIKE IT IS! K-K-KILL YOURSELF!
Ask me how I know you're fat.

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>no u
EASILY done.

>making a masculine boy like Gohan crossdress

for what purpose? crossdressing only looks hot on traps, because they're almost girls

t. straight male

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Cope. Hang yourself.

>ass is so blown that all he can do is wimper and cry
Lel

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Not only is there only 12 seconds apart from our posts but the fact that you are afraid to reply to us both out of fear of the two of us screenshoting it and BTFO-ing you just proves how pathetic you are

would you dumb bitches shut the fuck up? it literally doesn't matter whether you prefer the sub or the dub because as has already been pointed out the fucking anime isn't canon, the manga is the canon source material. jesus christ why do you fucking sperging cucks always spend the entire goddamn thread arguing about nothing, i hope you all get raped

>newfag thinks you have to respond to both posts in order for someone to prove they're not samefagging
>newfag doesn't think you can simultaneously phonepost and PCpost
I'm too smart for you, newfag. Quit while you're ahead.

>h-h-h-hang yourself
>this pathetic whimper is all the beaten dubdog can muster
Cope.

>wimper
>IESLB
>inb4 "m-m-merely pretending, n-n-newfag"

Aaaaaaand just like that I win.
NEXT

>screeching when asked to type properly
Go back, moeshitting tourist.

I knew Kale was worst girl.

But on a serious note, subfags are so fucking insufferable. Imagine starting an argument because you got ass blasted mad that someone was using terms found in the dubbed version and then get upset that I respond back. Get a fucking life.

theyre only dykes in the anime

>get called out and bullied
>cry about it
Kek

tfw

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>cry and seethe about someone using things from the dub
>WAAAAAHHHHHHHH THE DUB DOESNT EXIST. STOP MENTIONING IT AND ONLY WATCH THE SUB
Seek help.

>PLEASE TAKE MY HACK CHILDREN’S CARTOON SERIOUSLY
no, you are pathetic

>b-b-b-but
Shut the FUCK up dog.
NEXT

>something actually spent time on trash
You know what to do gentlemen.

Cope. Hang yourself.

>still too afraid to do it
Discarded.

>My point is that toyriama himself could have made power levels rational if he maintained the tradition from the original show
No, he made power levels rational, but decided that there was no reason for them to keep playing a role in the series.
Big difference.

>Tao was only what, less than a 100 higher than goku? a double digit margin? and he is exactly as dominant as second form frieza over the z fighters.
Oooh, so it's because you don't understand power levels that you are against them, hahahaha OR you're bitching about them, because you understand how they work, but you don't like it.
Either way, your problem.

Why would you even use a character from the moment before powerlevels were used?
Tao Paipai isn't from the sagas in which powerlevels were used (he has no canon powerlevel).

you're also probably a purist OG Dragon Ball fag and thinks that Z is for toxic males.
You also frequent Starbucks and want to buy a Prius when you grow up.
We can also regularly find you giving blowjobs for free Uber rides.
AND your motto in life is YOLO, which unironically is why you're on your knees so often

>literally no argument
Holy FUCK. I'm so fucking smart at this
NEXT.

>no caps
Didn't even read.

>S-STOP CALLING ME OUT FOR TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT AREN'T CANON WHILE PRETENDING THEY ARE CANON
Cry.

>he doesn't know how to screencap unless the posts are both replied to in a single post
Holy FUCK. Too fucking easy.

HOLY FUCKING BASED

imagine deflecting this hard. go talk about your 1828373728192020928348473728292929293828292938733892018 power level guy who’s actions and effects on the environment are identical to guys in the low 100s from the original series because toriyama is a hack

Based

Cope. Hang yourself, resurrect then get a brain.

nobody cares that you're illiterate you stupid spic nigger.

>RTH so he can pat himself on the back since everyone else is laughing at him
>H-HANG YOURSELF PLEASE JUST DIE GO AWAY LEAVE ME ALONE
Kek

>extremely low quality
YKWTDG

>mass replying
NEXT

You seem to be mistaken.
Cope.
Cope.

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>racism
YKWTDG

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>I’m guessing whatever rival boost is could get past the 100 times difference.
Can you explain this?

>Though when Vegito transforms is his SSB also fused rather than having the same multiplier as non-fused characters?
Vegito is a fusion, but still his own perosn.
He has his own personality, so I think that his multiplier is the same as for normal people.
Good question, I don't know the answer.

>C-Cope.... p-please leave me alone.....
NEXT

>png
>what is inspect element
You CANNOT stand against my superior intellect.

>WAHHH MY FEE FEES
Shut up spic.

>base Goku
>keeping up with Jiren
You need help

>46 posters

>fucking retard just outed himself as being a samefag
Did you forget to do your Paint edit? HAHAHAHAHAHA

Idiot dog, I was proving your right by showing that I was replying to myself. How can subfags be THIS retarded?

>m-m-merely pretending
NEXT

>schizo thinks there is only one person dunking on gokutards

And you need to stop taking shit bait.

>dubfag admits to being a shameless samespic
Can't make this shit up

Reply to me next time you fucking BITCH.

Cope kneel seethe next

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>P-PLEASE GIVE ME ATTENTION
Holy cope.

>who’s actions
IESLB detected

Note the filename and ignore.

FUGGEN BASED

>give me attentnion anyway
Cope. Seething. Kneel, dog. NEXT

>Y-YES MASTER THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH I LOVE YOU MASTER KISS ME MASTER MY PATHETIC SISSY COCK NEEDS PUNISHMENT

3-0?

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>"B-BROLY IS STRONGER THAN BEERUS, GOKU SAID SO AND HE SAW THE GoD TOURNAMENT"
Reminder that both Brolyfags and Jirentrannies are full of shit and that no mortal (besides fusions)has surpassed or even matched Beerus

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is it just me or do these thread keep getting better and better?

Worse and worse* Fucking keyboard

>t.risu

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*BETTER and BETTER
man fucking gookmoot get it together

How do you blame your keyboard for typing a completely different word? Maybe your brain isn't working, subfag.

>literally the worst threads on Yea Forums
Fixed it

>taking memeposting seriously
Holy fucking newshit.

wait NO I didn't check the timestamps. I've just outed myself as a retard.

got 'em. how will those literal niggers of the community ever recover?
>g-g-granny goku don't die

Nice headcanon.
Broly is >fusions so he's >GoD too.

OFF to the TO to the PI to the C, your time is done, the janny is coming for thee.

*the best
Shit how can I be so retarded?

BASED dubtard!

>actions and effects on the environment are identical to guys in the low 100s from the original series
Oooh shit you're this type of faggot as well, the type who says "Dragon ball characters are not planet-level, because they never destroyed a planet HURR DURR look at those tiny craters HUEHUEHUE".

That's how you come across.

The LORE states that the fighters are stronger, so your IESLB my little pony watching faggot ass, should simply understand that they ARE in fact stronger.

WTF would the fighters even fight hard enough to destroy the planet they're fighting on or the universe they're fighting in?
To think that THAT, destroying the planet you're fighting which equals killing yourself, is the ONLY or the BEST route DBfighters should take, because if they don't it would mean that they haven't gotten any stronger makes you a retard.
If you can come up with BS reasons like that for the planet still being intact, use that little brain of yours to think of reasons that don't contradict the lore.

I'll await your kneeling and concession

>cesspools of pathetic shitposting niggers*
FIXED, finally.

>incomprehensible
>im n-n-not a newfag r-r-right guys?
Spaz gonna spaz

based and jannypilled. you know what to do

Jesus christ, 30 years into the franchise and people still cant grasp that the concept of power levels and that they were always pointless

Where did I mention base?

>literal incomprehensible spic babble
DIS to the CAR to the D to the ED, spics aren't welcome in MY fucking thread.

*THE BEST
I apologize to my fellow CHADs for this display.

Hercule is the strongest non Z-fighter regular human. Prove me wrong.

>dubfag still going

why do we subOMEGAs even bother? we should all just discard ourselves from life

ENOUGH

Basado

>S-STOP PLEASE
Whimper and wail, dubpup.

I have a muscle version as well

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>Rival Boost
I think some guides said being a rival made their boost even greater. I don’t know how accurate they are though.
>Multiplier.
It is kind of hard to answer. Elder Kai said to not fuse when transformed. This was about being transformation locked but it could imply you would get the same power. Then again he could have thought fusing before transforming would have been enough for Buu and thought another boost wouldn’t be worth a supposed shortened life span.

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Look at those ______ ___ clothes!

>DIS to the CAR to the D to the ED, spics aren't welcome in MY fucking thread.
>MY fucking thread.
Imagine being this much of a loser that since you reply 5x more than anyone else you “own” a thread. Cringed and have sex lol.

>milk

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>Jirenscholars'

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rival boost is not a thing.

and the fusion thing i think is just old kai being retarded. theres absolutely no reason why fusing as a super saiyan would make you permanently super saiyan when as base form you are free to transform into anything and back

>jirenkeks say UI is a transformation
>Goku calls it a technique/move again

>jirenkeks say Goku has a lot of raw power when using UI
>Goku says he can use it even if Moro sucks so much of his power he can't even use SSB again

>jirenkeks say Goku mastered UI in the ToP
>Goku states he's still trying to master it

This panel is fucking gold. Every time you see a toeikek talking about how Jiren fought a "transformation" "stronger" than fusion and how Goku "mastered" said """transformation""" just post this and laugh

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>absolutely NO rebuttal or refutation
A to the CU to the M to the EN, this is what you lack, my impotent friend.

UNFATHOMABLY BASED

I can't believe I have an excuse to use these.
I believe Chi-Chi's name can be translated to mean milk instead of breasts. The person who made these speaks Japanese though, so who knows.

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Do you need a dictionary I dont think you know what rebuttal is. Have sex incel lol

>I'm imply
B-BrolyGODS please help...

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why translate at all? its a fucking name

Because the name is a bunch of kanji in Japanese.

>dont think
>IESLB
CON to the C to the E D E, the only good spic is one that kneels before me.

>translated semantics
DID to the NOT to the EVEN to the READ, you and your kind shouldn't be allowed to breed.

Do you not know how nip words you fucking idiot

>Shitren stronger than Toppo
Nice headcanon

>I'm imply
Fall.

that kanji has a sound. does it sound like a milk or a chichi? go fuck yourself you retard cunt

>I believe Chi-Chi's name can be translated to mean milk instead of breasts
its supposed to be milk, dumbass. her dad is the OX king. come on. its slang for tits because it means milk

>not accepting the official translated as if you knew japanese to actually point out any mistake
Mongrel

>he thimks "red" and "breed" ryme
holy FUCKING toeipup cope.

And with that I will leave. Shitting on newfags and incels is fun but have things to do. Later fellas shitpost next time and to the spergs out there, Remember to have sex

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>damage control
Absolute goddamn idiot.

>I think some guides said being a rival made their boost even greater.
Based. I remember reading that too.

>This was about being transformation locked
True.
"Another, potentially fatal, weakness is that the fusees cannot be transformed before the fusion because they may never be able to power down as stated by Old Kai when Goku asked if he should be a Super Saiyan before fusing."
dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Fusion

>this post is off-topic
Gentlemen...

Ways Goku can surpass Ultra Instinct:
>Kaioken.
>Super Vegeta Physique.
>If you wanna go full Multiverse switch into grade 3 like with God-Blue switchimg.
>He could seal his ki like in the manga.
>Combine with Super Saiyan 1/2/3.
>Even better go through Elder Kai’s ritual and combine it with potential unleashed.
>Combine with Super Saiyan God.
>Even better become a GoD candidate and get the Hakaishin form. (Then quit and scam Whis.)
>Combine with Oozaru.
>Even better find a way to get Broly’s humanoid ape power form. I don’t know how they can just use the dragon balls or something. Then learn to control it like Vegeta or Kale.
>Master the form(s) with Cell Saga Super Saiyan training.
>Learn Babidi’s magic and make yourself stronger with a Majin like form.
>Copy Trunk’s light sword shit to create LIGHT CELLS & LIGHT S-CELLS.
>Even further use ki to multiply LIGHT S-CELLS until you get a S-TUMOR.
>Further use ki to multiply and condense the LIGHT S-TUMOR until you have a S-INGULARITY replacing your left kidney.
>Break his omni-limiters.
>Master every language.
>Do this in base: youtube.com/watch?v=qGd13RB-y1

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Ah, thank you for clearing that up. I don't know
a lot of Japanese and just go off of what the fanbase tells me usually.
But the kanji becomes romanji which sounds nothing like English.
Tell me, what does たかい mean? It's sound is "Takai"

ABSOLUTELY BASED AND UI PILLED

>he's posting his fanspiction shitcanon again
Get the fuck out.

You know UI works on base form right?

you absolute retard. theres no word chichi in english. you write what you hear

The sentence is "didn't read". Read being in present tense there fore pronounced "reed".
Of course, bring the ESL taco that you are, you probably use the past tense of Read (pronounced "red") even after using "did" on the same sentence.
Holy shit, get fucking SCHOOLED.

>N-NO THATS NOT WHAT I MENT
shutt he fuck up and cope.

Milk is Chichi's taco name. And no, Chichi name has no kanji

>b-but it's a correct translation of a completely different language which different expressions and composition, therefore I'm allowed to desperately base my weak headcanon on it's semantics h-haha
BOOM
That's it?

>Milk is Chichi's taco name
it's as simple as that

Names can be translated dipshit

It doesn't counter/dodge the SUCC it allows Goku to keep fighting until he has nothing on the tank.

Based

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Not what I asked.

>SHITrentard meme speak
Discarded

we need that because of retards like you, who get uncomfortable with foreign names. translate this chuj ci w dupe

>runs away
I to the WIN to the A to the GAIN, Jiren lives rent-free within your brain.

Yes, got a problem with that, beta Schemmelcuck?

>THATS
>MENT
>"no u" after being found out using two past tenses on the same sentence
KABLOOM. Get humiliated, Manolo. Don't ever try to fence with a prestigious scholar like me. EVER.

yfw the Dragonball franchise is reduced to this

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>base Goku: makes some new moves he just learned
>Jiren: becomes a pinball

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translate.google.com/?hl=nl#view=home&op=translate&sl=es&tl=en
Take this, you're giving me a headache

>S-TUMOR
>Would need chemotherapy.
Holy shit guys.

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>m-muh scholar
yeah we know you like touching kids you fucking freak.

>off topic link spam
just conceed you fucking samefagging dog.

>makes some new moves he just learned
Are you even trying?

Yes? Nothing in the post implies otherwise

>falseflagging
Waste my time not, you imbecile.

>Waste my time not
>incomprehensible ESL babbel
this is too easy

Arroz (Calvo)

No.

Nah it was the new Broly movie for me, desu. It was hype at first but every time I go back and watch it it gets dumber and dumber. I miss Toriyamas editors in DBZ prior to Buu saga. Pissed as he was at them at least they kept him on the rails.

>no evidence of the translation being wrong in any way
>even though it perfectly matches what was already stablished and seen
>basing your whole argument on the mere possibility of a translation being wrong without realising that the opposite is just as likely
There is no limits to your stupidity huh

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>IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT MORE THAN ONE PERSON CALLS ME OUT FOR BEING AN ILLITERATE MONG
Guess what, Pablo?
It really isn't.

embarrassing

>more pathetic samefagging
literally accept your concession, kneel

It's okay. I forgive you, because you're honest

You said someone with UI can't keep up with a rival thousands times stronger, then I said Goku vs Jiren proves otherwise, but you claimed Goku was able to keep up with Jiren without UI. You are defending untransformed Goku doesn't need UI to keep up with Jiren

ABSOLUTELY BASED AND ALMOST NOT IESLB
HOW WILL SHITRENTARDS RECOVER?

Next time try writing
>RTH
instead, to save yourself from the embarrassment

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>babbel
>he has no fucking clue of ye olde English expressions.
Then again you're just shitposting. Not even anti-Jiren camels are this retarded.

>png
nice paint edit faggot. you cant hide from me.

>y-you're just shitposting i have to say that or you'll BTFO
concession excepted.

Is there any character that could even compete with an Ultra Fusion of:
>Goku
>Superman
>The Father
>The Son
>The Holy Spirit

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>nice paint edit faggot. you cant hide from me
Bro, that's cope

>UI
>not a move he just learned

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>png means you edited something
get a load of this spic

>that's cope
>more ESL babbling
i won again.

>FUCK he knows filenames
>uhhhh uhm uhhhh....SPIC
kek cope faggot

>this amount of reading comprehension
Holy shit go back to school. Go and re-read my post at least 10 times and realize how retarded you are because I never claimed the translation is wrong or that it is the flaw in your "argument".
God, are mangatards the lowest of the low? Rhetoric BTW.

Why are you still taking his bait? He knows he's wrong, he wants more (You)s, that's all

The same fusion but Goku and Superman are EX/Potara fused. We replace the open spot with an EX/Potara fusion of Shaggy and Chuck Norris.

>You said someone with UI can't keep up with a rival thousands times stronger,
True

>Goku vs Jiren proves otherwise
Yes, with this I was referring to SSB Goku vs Jiren, not to base Goku.
They were already around the same speed.

>LALALALALA I'M NOT GOING TO LISTEN AND THAT WILL BE THE WHOLE OF MY ARGUMENT
>LELELEL LOOK AT HOW SMART I AM
Brolychads use facts and logic.
You are not a Brolychad, because if you were you would have realized that it wouldn't be impossible for more than one person to call you out on your bullshit IESLB writing.

Bro, you just posted cope again

Told you I was smart, toyotaquito.

Reminder that UI Goku was blocking/parrying Jiren. If he’s only as strong as Base Goku it would be like me blocking against a locomotive.

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Never said it did, just added to the post.

>with this I was referring to SSB Goku vs Jiren, not to base Goku.
But UI Goku is BASE Goku, not SSB Goku. Even if SSB Goku had the powerlevel to reach Jiren's speed, UI Goku doesn't so you can't deny UI defies the speed logic
Plus SSB Goku isn't even close to Jiren's full speed, but even if he was that's irrelevant like I said, since UI uses Goku's base

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>RTNO

>retard babbling about random characters
cope for me

OH NONONO SHITRENBROS WHAT HAPPENED!?

No, it was the IESLB writing that I was commenting on.

Read the first pages of that chapter, toeikek, Goku's team wonders why Goku isn't being crushed by Jiren's moves and Whis explains it's thanks to UI's moves

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Oh so you didn’t actually have an argument.

buu saga at least had some interesting ideas and events
now if you want to talk about irredeemable trash you only need to look at the cell saga.

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Sorry Dad, Mom belongs to me now.

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>it would be like me blocking against a locomotive
how do you know you cant?

Shitrenschizos are irredeemable stupid, just give up and tell him to cope.

He tried, that's how he got braindamage

This. It is obviously a power up. You can't "cover your vitals" and be OK when getting ran over by a truck.

Post images. Not needing braim signals and fighting perfectly won’t let me block a locomotive. Also that image is from the anime lol.
I know how durable a human body is.

so you never actually tried it

Enter Cutehan

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Seethe SHITrendog

Enter armless Girlhan

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>JIRENJIRENJIRENJIRENJIREN
You just keep digging the hole deeper and deeper

>Posts a worn-out Vegeta who has given mutliple knock-outs at that point...

>But UI Goku is BASE Goku
UI is performed in base, but that is irrelevant for my post.

>Even if SSB Goku had the powerlevel to reach Jiren's speed
Goku fought Jiren in SSB for the majority of the time.
If Goku wasn't even remotely close in power that would have never happened.

Now, the problem with the speed of UI is that UI is NOT a speed boost.
It makes the user act faster and thus react quicker, but the speed is the same.
Explanation: UI causes Goku to punch quicker, but not faster.

A Goku fusion would have his speed multiplied.
UI Goku = same speed as base form
Fusion = speed of base form multiplied

>Plus SSB Goku isn't even close to Jiren's full speed
I never mentioned Jiren's full speed.

>appeal to nonsense
So this is the final stand of Toyoshits.

>genderbent

>post images
KEK so you admit you try to discuss the manga without even reading it? Based jirenjuans can't stop humiliating themselves

>b-b-but my IRL logic..!
The manga says otherwise. Cope.

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He's a cave dweller. He feels at home in that hole
Even more if people feed him (you)s.

we really need the anime to come back. all this headcanon is getting stupid.

Why is Gohan a better father than Vegeta?
Why is Trunks a better lover than Videl?

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>I CAN ONLY LISTEN TO MYSELF TALK ABOUT SHITREN ALL DAY.
>ANY FORM OF INTELLECTUAL DISCUSSION THAT DOESN'T INCORPORATES MY GAY PRIDE TROOPER I MUST DEEM INFERIOR
>I ALSO STILL WET THE BED AT NIGHT
That's you

well you cant make hard claims based on your knowledge. youre not infallible. you can think theres absolutely no way something can happen, until it happens

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>Explanation: UI causes Goku to punch quicker, but not faster.
So he reacts but he is too slow to do anything? Too bad that's not what happened you revisionist little cuck. UI is a transformation. No amount of tears will wash the truth away.

Zombies in movies feed on brains
The Zombie in /DBS/ feeds on (You)'s

>who has given mutliple knock-outs at that point
Literally never happened in the manga, the only time someone made Vegeta eat dust in the manga ToP was that page. And that page also happened when Vegeta powered up, that Vegeta is the strongest Vegeta to ever exist up to that point

>that is irrelevant for my post
It's not. Base Goku can't keep up with Jiren, but base Goku plus Ultra Instinct can, that means UI ignores speed. Period.

>Goku fought Jiren in SSB for the majority of the time.
>If Goku wasn't even remotely close in power that would have never happened.
Read the arc again.
ToP SSB Goku =/= pre-ToP SSB Vegeta < post-ToP SSB Vegeta < Jiren without even trying

>UI causes Goku to punch quicker, but not faster
I know, but it's not my fault Toriyama made it that way. Ultra Instinct allows an unstransformed Goku to keep up with someone stronger than a Super Saiyan Fucking God Super Saiyan, you can't deny this.

>I never mentioned Jiren's full speed
We are talking about Jiren vs Goku and Jiren ended up using his full speed against Goku so WE are talking about Jiren's full speed

>Not attacking vitals.
That’s not evidence for him blocking and parrying without a boost.
>IRL example.
Nappa is 10 times stronger than Tien and did this. Goku’s blocking shouldn’t do shit.

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>409 posts
>54 IPs
>I've already made 84 (now 85) posts
Chads of Yea Forums or what?

>w-well maybe a boost that has never EVER been mentioned the multiples times they talk about UI exists ha ha...?
Juan...

>b-but my headcanon says Goku blocking shouldn't do shit!
Nobody cares. Also your example is irrelevant, since Ten didn't even block. Not only he didn't have UI to block in a perfect way, he literally didn't even block at all.

My headcanon is that Goku’s S-Cells are being triggered from his heightened sense of mind like how god ki does.

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This. Also remember that Whis stopped both Goku and Bejita SSB with a finger. So UI does make you incredibly stronger.
Now let me hear you sob.

>So he reacts but he is too slow to do anything?
He was "fast enough" to finally defeat Jiren and that's all.
What we did see was that Jiren was able to go toe to toe with UI in the anime AND in the manga as well.
This indicates that UI Goku was not that much faster than Jiren, if faster at all.

> UI is a transformation. No amount of tears will wash the truth away.
Absolute head canon, but tell us, oh unwise one, what did this "transformation" do?

deleted my post because I realized the wording was stupid.

55 now. I had to let you all know that I like Jiren

It doesnt, UI just allows you to attack weak points dealing a lot more damage than usual punches. Its like making every hit a crit

It's time for dogren to be taken out back.

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>his base form is fast enough to defeat FP Jiren
Toyopacos are OVER.

In the anime, not in the manga.
>"an technique that severs the consciousness from the body in order to allow the body to subconsciously move itself to even attack and evade"

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Cute and canonical now thanks to the Funileaks

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>RTH

OK who has an actual argument?

I stoomped him.

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Never happened in canon, and even if happened we don't know how strong Whis is without UI, non-blanco Whis could still be stronger than SSB. The only valid examples are the ones that use Goku becase we know his strength without UI

HOLY BASEDCHAD

Can I save this picture?

Terrible deflection, cope

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what leaks? I don't remember anything about trunks.

>I-I-I’m g-going to-o s-s-stut-t-ter to m-make m-my opponent l-look b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-ad.
I’m sorry the manga didn’t need to spoonfeed to you that a character physically stronger than a god of destruction wouldn’t one shot an attack.
>Headcanon
Do you really believe this user. I guess Piccolo just needed to block this at the right angle because that lets you beat someone who is over 400 times stronger than you. Numbers mean a lot in Dragon Ball. Gohan went from getting ass kicked by Cell to ass kicking Cell from a times 2 boost.

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>192729142
You literally accused me of the same thing 2 replies ago. I guess that a Zombie, unlike a human, can't learn from his mistakes
There will be no more (you)'s for you

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>Goku calls his son a faggot, implying homosexuality
>Gohan in the leaked audio is heard fucking ChiChi
>Goku's only other son is Goten
CUTE
AND
CANON

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Meant for

I like renchad the ji

>literally the only time an UI user uses a ki blast
>he just breaks the ground under the bad guy, who mentions the UI user has no real strength whatsoever
Anyone that still thinks UI boosts Goku's raw power is just retarded

Enter CHADren.

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The idea is to give him so many (You)s that he overloads and it defeats him. It is A strategy I learned while on Yea Forums and I am sure it will defeat him all I have to do is just believe in myself.

/DB/ lend me a little of your (You)s

H-HeroChads..... H-Hunterchads...... t...tasukete......

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>cell saga is trash
>buu saga isn’t
ultimate pleb

BASED!!!!!!!!!!!

Hero"chads" and Hunter"chads" are just puppets, flinging about for the amusement of the real chads.

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BASED
A
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B to the A to the S to the E to the D

>the only time someone made Vegeta eat dust in the manga ToP was that page
I said that he has given multiple knock-outs, not that he has received multiple knock-outs.

>Base Goku can't keep up with Jiren, but base Goku plus Ultra Instinct can, that means UI ignores speed
Like I said before. UI makes him react instantaneously, but that doesn't mean that his speed went up.

>ToP SSB Goku =/= pre-ToP SSB Vegeta < post-ToP SSB Vegeta < Jiren without even trying

What kind of gibberish is this?
SSB Goku fought Jiren without being ringed out, knocked out and killed.
SSB is able to fight against Jiren without losing.
Cope.

>I know, but it's not my fault Toriyama made it that way.
It's not a bad thing. Toriyame did a good job, it's the interpretations the viewers have that are usually bad.

>Ultra Instinct allows an unstransformed Goku to keep up with someone stronger than a Super Saiyan Fucking God Super Saiyan, you can't deny this.
Good thing I never did that.
What I did say was the SSB Goku was able to keep with Jiren as well and YOU can't deny that.

>We are talking about Jiren vs Goku and Jiren ended up using his full speed against Goku
Only AFTER Goku used UI and I was talking about SSB Goku, which is BEFORE he used UI

>WE are talking about Jiren's full speed
No, we're currently talking about whether or not I (me, not you) was talking about Jiren's full speed, which I (me, not you) wasn't.

HOLY BASED

>still no argument, just "I swear this thing that has never been stated nor hinted is real, trust me!"
Sad.
Also see and cry more. UI has nothing to do with power levels, it's all skill, Juan

>his base form is fast enough to defeat FP Jiren
How can you think otherwise when we saw Roshi dodging Jiren's attacks?
Though, just saying baseform is a very big downplay, because he would not have been able to defeat Jiren in just his baseform.
He needed UI (BUT it's still in his baseform)

>Base Goku's blast almost one shots Jiren out of the ring
>HAHA THAT MEANS IT'S NOT A POWERUP.
You truly disgust me. What a sad and pathetic individual you are. I can almost see your shaking little fingers as you desperately type damage control.

B-B-B-BUT MUH TECHNIQUE, SHITREN THE SHITBROS, I THOUGHT WE WERE THE INDOMITABLE APEX PREDATORS?

>I said that he has given multiple knock-outs
I concede here, my wrong. But I don't know why do you even mention the knock outs then

>but that doesn't mean that his speed went up
And like I said, UI ignores speed and you can't prove otherwise because base Goku keeps up with Jiren just by using UI.

>gibberish
Okay stop reading here. Toppo stated Vegeta was as strong as Goku himself, then he powered up a lot and Jiren still one shotted him without even try, go back when you actually read the manga

>Roshi SSB+ tier apologist
So THIS Is what technique shitters are comprised of. KEK.
Then again, we are talking about the non canon fanfic. Because it is clear in the canon anime that UI indeed is a power up.

>breaking the ground under someone's feet
>power up
Try harder if you want my (You)s Paco

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But the brain is only 268 mph. I could run faster than that with SS3. Goku shouldn’t be fast enough to do this. Fucking Frieza made characters piss thier pants because they couldn’t even see attacks after they already hit. Skill doesn’t let you ignore power levels. Have you ever considered Goku’s form to be different than the actualy technique either. At least Toei actually put logic in this transformation instead of it apparently reality warping power levels away with perfect imputs. Like could UI Goku punch a hole through SS2 Goku because openings.

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Better pic.

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>the strongest being in the multiverse is standing in the way and could do nothing to stop it, AND was visibly damaged from it
YOU
CANNOT
WIN
HAHA

>I could run faster than that with SS3
the do it faggot, and post a video to prove it

what does he even mean “gaslighting of sean” ??? he’s not a child

>I concede here
Aaaah, feels good.
I should screencap this, print it out and post it above my bed.

>But I don't know why do you even mention the knock outs then
You tried to downplay SSB by posting that image, but that image showed a tired Vegeta who had already forced two fighters out of the ring and fought many other fighters. Not a great example to use to try to prove your point.

>UI ignores speed and you can't prove otherwise because base Goku keeps up with Jiren just by using UI
Are you implying that UI has infinite speed?

>then he powered up a lot and Jiren still one shotted him without even try
Maybe, just maaaaybe, that was because Jiren was.... Oh I don't know.... Actually multiple stronger than Vegeta even after Vegeta had his power up.

OK give me 15 minutes.

It’s just math retard. I can fucking walk 3 mph. Combine that with the SS3 multipler and I can walk 600 mph. That absolutely shits on someone faster than their brain.

>Roshi SSB+ tier apologist
Kek, look at this fag implying that Jiren wasn't holding back because one of his punches could evaporate the old senile rapist.

Don't pretend to be me.

Actually even worse 1200 mph. Thats way more than 268.

>But the brain is...
Stop already. Stop trying to use IRL in a literal manga world you retard.

>Jiren is inexperienced and can't control his strength
Try harder.

means he farted and they lit the gas on fire

>No developer tools in mobile.
Get BTFO
Ignored all the other stuff. You shouldn’t assume something is not like reality just because it can be.

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you have 11 more minutes to post the video, i think you should hurry up instead of talking about math

why isn't there more shipping stuff of them around

there have been no official numbers since namek so multipliers are headcanon

Different guy lol.
Like seriously that’s not an argument. It’s like if I said Goku beats Broly because he can time travel because he’s so fast like Superman. It’s fictional but I can’t just make stuff up to won arguments.

That's not how you green text, newfag

Canon as long as the guide books say it.

Goten was introduced in the final arc or the original series and the two only have a major presence in four films and one OVA.
That, and Goten isn't in a majority of GT.

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theres generally very very VERY little porn and other such content for dragon ball despite how popular it is. always confused me. i really never understood it. maybe toriyamas style is too hard to draw and/or too iconic to deviate from

Imagine being a jobrenfag.

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> Beerus cant master Ultra Instinct
> Gokek did it in less than 10 min

Well done Tori

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Jiren The Gray. BASED

Chadchad Chad CHAD.

He's literally why we're the CHADS of Yea Forums.

>Moeshitter
discarded

Over 75 million years ago Beerus trapped Elder Kai in a sword. Elder Kai said he was weaker than Buu back then. Imagine how much stronger Goku could have been than Buu with all that time.

>You shouldn’t assume something is not like reality
I'm not assuming, I'm stating it. Why? Because that's what the story tells us. The manga sells UI as an upgrade in skill, not power level.

Except I'm not making shit up, I'm sticking to what the manga says, that UI is all about moving, Goku himselfs says so in the last chapter.

Lmao, imagine watching dragon ball

Being a Jirenscholar is hard, because you have to fight the entire world
But being a non-Jirenscholar is even harder, because you have to fight Jirenscholars

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beerus is too smart to do it. like how hillary was too smart to win and ghost busters was too smart for audiences.

unironically though he was too smart. he and vegeta cant do it because they actually use their brains to fight, though through training beerus can kind of empty his mind

>Goku is now faster than his brain.
>This is millions of times faster than his base.
>Not a boost.

He's just a lazy fucker.
Fuck Beerus, a gag character.

Enter El Grande Padre. (Forma Verdadera)

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HOW IS HE SO BASED BROS

>deflecting
Over.

Based.

>faster than his brain
Never said something remotely close to that, you are the one forcing scientific shit in a manga about a space monkey man

>faster than his base
If by "faster" you mean he reacts faster, yes. If you mean he moves faster than he could without using UI no, nothing says that, he has the same attack/defense/speed/etc as before, but he reacts faster and moves better.

well to be fair it's really hard to draw men with huge muscles

then drawing you would be a piece of cake

>blathering his headcanon as if it was fact
Shut the FUCK up you apologist shitter.

>stated in the series
>"headcanon"

then why is no one drawing gay porn of me?

>Shut the FUCK up you apologist shitter.
SEETHING

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>Thread's over
>SHITrentoddler utterly crushed

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because you are ugly and no one would masturbate to you so there is no point in drawing it

The whole point of the technique is that it lets you move without needing brain signals and fight perfectly. If that makes him apparently ridiculously faster to where he's Jiren levels and block attacks a million times stronger than him I guess skill makes you stronger in DBS. That's why I like the anime's more. All skill doesn't fit with the stupid power creep of DB.

>RTNO

We are 500 posts in

youtube.com/watch?v=Ibb_B4bQ6VM

>no source
Ahem...

>makes him apparently ridiculously faster
It doesn't, learn to read.

>block attacks a million times stronger than him
Explicitly stated to be skill

>I prefer the version that makes UI act as another SS form, just Goku overpowering rivals after get a bigger powerlevel again
And that's why the real UI is so great, because it's the opposite to what you like, because it's shits on powercreep and goes back to the roots when skill was important.

Read the last chapter

She wishes to taste the Prince's "milk".

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Fucking blind homo

>better father
>Trunks with training and SS at 14 is a weak bitch not close to half of 18
>just being near pops at age 8 sees the power he and the weaker Goten put out while holding back can make 18 scared
Vegeta made him strong of body in short order. Super can play its games, but in canon this is just how it is. In both, Vegeta becomes a good father. Future Gohan? Weak (and stupid). Insanely so. AT was out of his mind to let the boy be so pathetic despite all the zenkai, training (and options), etc.

Trunks is only strong in that timeline because his future wasn't fucked.
Freeza arc tier Gohan with nobody around but a baby managed to get Trunks to be a Super Saiyajin while also establishing a bond and connection with the kid. Trunks could've become an incel thanks to the bad times he was living in, but Gohan was there to properly raise him.
Present day Trunks is a fucking homosexual who stops actively training by EoZ.

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this
Buu saga was worse than anything in Super
>BUUBUUBUUUUUB XDXD
Fuck off

>x10
Nappa was half-assing against them. His best is 'over 8K' (like Goku to keep up with his base as he became able to before Vegeta ended the fight). He wasn't using his best at all until he calmed down for the fight against Goku. Even were it so, Tien is not sub-1K here. Each Saibamen is 1.2K (canon) and thus equal to Raditz. Tien Kiai'd it into a single elbow and almost put it down instantly (Vegeta just then kills the thing as it recovers for 'round 2'). Yamcha's Kamehameha almost kills one (people need to stop using that crap move). We don't have a canon value for them, sadly. Just official shit like Tien at 1,830 (same source puts Nappa at 4K).

NOTE: The gap between Vegeta and Cui was no greater than KKx3 Goku versus Vegeta (33%), but he struck his gut once to set-up an insta-kill. The gap is smaller still with Dodoria (official sources suggesting 9%), but he just insta-killed that one with a single (unnamed) blast, too. After light stretching, mind you. It doesn't take something as dramatic as x10 to produce results like you suggest here.