I hate BnHA post-AFO vs OFA. (This is not a disguised BNHA hate thread.) Recently I was annoyed that the villains suddenly get their own arc in order to make them actually worthy adversaries (aka training arc.) I thought it could be executed much better and we didn't need an all-of-a-sudden no stakes villain arc. I believed this for a few weeks.
Today I realized in Naruto we suddenly cut to Sasuke wreaking havoc on the Kages or Raikage or whatever, and I remember the mini-arcs focusing on Sasuke's literally who teammates were my least favorites even as a kid.
Starting to feel that when you're younger you just have more patience (less of an entertainment input filter) and if I had experienced Naruto Shippuden as an adult weekly I would have hated it as much as the Deika City arc in BnHA.
TL;DR from a less fanboyish, more adult-like, relatively objective point of view do all shonen have shit like this that we like to overlook? Not asspulls or whatever, just shitty writing on a relatively large scale. What about seinen and manga in general then (and thus, anime adaptations as well), given that this lack of planning may be due to the schedules and necessity of releases?
Are works of fiction that are released all at once like books just way more likely to be better?
Are there manga (shonen?) that to you surpass all other works of fiction including all mediums and genres?
To me Oyasumi Punpun, AoT, OP and HxH are masterpieces. Gintama, 3-Gatsu, and Natsume Yuujinchou are completely beautiful and perhaps beyond masterpieces. LN-wise used to love Oregairu but growing up and the hiatus kinda ruined it. And Higurashi is my favorite work of fiction (VN ofc). But it feels like since books are probably way more likely to be better than manga/anime, maybe I'm just a booklet and could easily find fiction that beats the shit out of my favorite manga/etc. and it's hard to accept.
Idk, guess this turned into a blog. I really want to hear your thoughts.
I actually just hate manga regardless. I’ve always liked anime a lot more.
Evan Fisher
We all do.
Jacob Adams
You can include anime for the context of my question, user. Comparing anime to movies or books or whatever, I just want to hear your opinion. But I think anime-onlies should be gassed. There are very few cases where anime arguably surpasses the manga and even in those cases if the author is good, their soul is not conveyed in the anime, but rather you get an assorted number of animation directors' souls.
Caleb Sullivan
I wish they'd make a manga board so I don't have to be on the same board as you subhumans.
Jordan Harris
Jesus Christ I want to believe this isn't true. Goddamn it. You realize 95% of anime are soulless advertisements for manga/LN/VN/video games, right? And unlike manga which carries the will of one author, anime are clusterfucks where the tone, pacing, etc. of each episode can fuck up the story? Just look at Neverland. If a studio wants to make a story all "realistic-seeming" and "low-key" when the manga is meant to be super over-the-top thriller you completely miss out on the original intentions. Look at HxH 2011. The fucking terrible amounts of dialogue. When you can read faster than 60 WPM (idk) watching that show was fucking cancer. Gintama as well, most of the comedy episodes you gotta go 1.5x speed. The moment your timing sense (which you would have honed as a manga/comic/book reader) doesn't match perfectly with the vision of one particular animation director, you can't enjoy an episode as much as you could have. Just look at some of the worse OP and BC episodes.
Is there none? I mean I'm sure 2ch has one if not multiple but no English manga boards that are active? Fuck me if so
Alexander Foster
Anime originals tend to be even worse since individual episodes are not only produced and directed but also written by different people. I'm not trying to defend this to death though, I'm sure that the anime that are most worth watching are the originals.
Justin Green
What’s the point in pretending you like manga more? I realize you think it makes you smarter but nobody cares. Anime is beautiful. I’m not saying all anime is good but a good anime is better than a good manga.
David Hughes
You’re just looking for any reason possible to hate on anime. What does it matter how many people write it? Do you want to suck the guys cock? If the story is good the story is good. It doesn’t matter how many people write it.
David Adams
>Look at HxH 2011. The fucking terrible amounts of dialogue. When you can read faster than 60 WPM (idk) watching that show was fucking cancer. Gintama as well, most of the comedy episodes you gotta go 1.5x speed. Gay, for me it’s easier ear a big monologue that reading a bad translated paragraph
Nathaniel Parker
Not him but do you actually think he's pretending or are you just trying to irk him? Surely you don't think people who enjoy different things from you are just pretending. Personally I think manga is vastly superior to anime. I think people who prefer anime don't want to use their minds, e.g. my anime-only friends eat while watching anime as a way to totally turn off their head after work. Which is fine but you might as well jerk off instead. Watching anime is uncreative whereas reading manga is interactive. The story will be bad and incoherent if multiple people write it. > Over the course of the writing process, elements of the Evangelion storyline evolved from the original concept. A female protagonist was initially proposed for the series, but the idea was scrapped. [...] (There's a lot more on the Wikipedia site.) Not saying all team-created fiction is bad but it's clearly less true to a vision than a single creator's work, and is less likely to be good.
Austin Turner
Just because you don't like something doesn't mean other people are just pretending to like it. I've been reading manga just about as long as I've been watching anime and I just gravitate more towards it. I imagine in the past part of it was that the anime on TV was censored while the manga was less so. Manga also goes as fast or as slow as I read and so I can consume it at my own pace rather than relying on the director of the anime telling me how fast or slow things need to go. This is especially bad with adaptations like that other user said. I was watching the Jojo part 5 anime when it was coming out and they for some reason decided to make everyone talk excruciatingly slow. I also don't want to wait years for an adaptation of something and have to deal with the seasonal structure of anime. Not that I don't watch anime, though I really don't follow anything seasonal. The last anime I watched was the first Precure series and I finished that like a month ago and haven't started anything else while I'm following 10 ongoing manga and reading some finished stuff too.
Aaron Allen
how the fuck. it's so much faster to skim jokes you don't understand by reading.
Jack Hernandez
How the hell is that? When you’re watching anime you’re reading and when you’re reading manga you’re reading. The only difference is you’re looking at animation with music and voice actors with anime where’s with manga you’re staring at a single image. Anime by far is better in almost every aspect because anime can copy manga but a manga can never do what an anime does.
Christian Collins
based. not just because you agree with me but also because you bothered to elaborate your point, in a way that makes it clear your opinion is subjective, but lets us understand your point of view and why you think what you think. When I binged part 5 tho it was actually pretty nice. Some talking was a bit much though but Araki just overdoes the volume of dialogue as times, I thought the speed itself wasn't terrible. Probably a bit slow but not HxH 2011 levels. On a related note most of the shows that I think improve on the manga are really atmospheric ones like 3-Gatsu, Natsume Yuujinchou, Hachimitsu to Clover, etc. (I might be a Joseilet though.) The dialogue can be slow and it's fine because at the same time so much in the background and environment is making me feel things at the same time. I don't need to be distracted by text overlayed on stills of character reaction faces overlayed on speedlines.
>Manga also goes as fast or as slow as I read and so I can consume it at my own pace rather than relying on the director of the anime telling me how fast or slow things need to go.
You sound like an idiot dude. You can pause the anime if it’s going “too fast for you” guy. You’re crying about the dumbest stuff right now.
Mason Kelly
>anime can copy manga but a manga can never do what an anime does No, manga has its own set of stuff that anime can't do. Art in general is one of them really. You're almost never going to get as much detail in an anime as you can in still images in a manga. The way panels are laid out is also a manga thing, which can be approximated in anime, but just like manga can't do continuous stuff like anime can (because it's a series of images) certain panel flow things can't be done in anime and need to be converted to something that works in anime.
It can be either too fast or two slow. Usually too slow though. And no, I'm not going to pause anime. That takes away from the entire point of anime. If I was going to do that I'd just read the manga. And anime is a series of frames, while manga panels can cover several seconds of "action" at a time. Looking at a still frame of an anime isn't the same thing as looking at a still panel in a manga.
Lincoln Wood
>You're almost never going to get as much detail in an anime as you can in still images in a manga. >almost
That’s too bad because I can say you’re 1000% guaranteed to never have voice acting, animation and music in a manga.
Landon King
This has already been answered in other places better than I probably can right now. But I'll try to get you to at least understand my point of view. But I don't want to shove my penis named "manga is better" down your throat forcefully. Also, reminder that my clusterfuck of a thread was meant to be discussing whether anime/manga are just inherently as a whole worse than long-form release fiction like books and whether you think masterpiece anime/manga can match up to masterpiece books/films. Anyway, in manga paneling EXTREMELY creative. You can pause at whichever scenes you want. You can interpret how characters say things. And you can reinterpret it differently (and perhaps more accurately) on each reread. You can choose the voices that make sense to you. You can interpret each character's expression without being on a timer. Rewinding while watching an anime ruins the experience whereas in a manga it's completely fluid. Action is much better in a manga unless the anime is constant Pokemon Sun and Moon animation quality. The important action shots are given big panels as opposed to all the pointless bullshit and the key frames being the same size for anime. Also for things like group shot reveals, you can ogle the manga page (which will be detailed as fuck, btw) whereas the anime will do gay-ass zooms, pans, slicing the screen to zoom in on each guy's face, etc. There's just no good solution. If you're trying to make a movie-esque original then kudos to you, I think you can focus on that and make something great. But translating a manga to an anime will rarely create something better than the original work, and even if it is more enjoyable it loses something that would make it worthwhile to read the original work anyway. Stories are told by both the author and the reader.
There’s plenty of anime with better visuals than manga. Also the same thing goes in reverse with the visuals. There’s stuff you’ll see in anime that manga could never do.
Hudson Jones
>You can interpret how characters say things. >on each reread. You can choose the voices that make sense to you.
You mean make fanfiction that has nothing to do with the writers vision?
>You can choose the voices that make sense to you. You can interpret each character's expression without being on a timer. It’s called a pause button.
>Action is much better in a manga unless the anime That’s pretty much completely false because manga isn’t animated and anime is.
>The important action shots are given big panels as opposed to all the pointless bullshit and the key frames being the same size for anime So you’re basically bragging that you have adhd and you can skip the entire story and just watch the action?
>translating a manga to an anime will rarely create something better than the original work, and even if it is more enjoyable it loses something that would make it worthwhile to read the original work anyway. Stories are told by both the author and the reader. This is why anime originals are better.
Evan Perry
>Animelets resorting to "How the hell is that?" >Animelets resorting to "You sound like an idiot dude." >Meanwhile mangachads calmly discuss their opinions without being ignorant or pointlessly aggressive. Okay this comment is already kinda cringe, but the point is you're not really making any good points for the anime side in this discussion. As I mentioned here rewinding/pausing ruins the immersion/experience. Forgot to properly reply, in anime you're just reading subtitles and letting the world play out as a puppeteer directs the dolls and you sit there doing nothing. In manga you have to process the dialogue - and think if there are multiple layers to it, by spending longer on certain panels. It's a natural action in reading. You create the action, the scene transitions, action transitions, and little extra mannerisms of characters, etc. You have a headcanon. Many little things about characters are destroyed by anime adaptations because they tend to be conservative on animations for not-super-important-things due to limitations, which doesn't ruin the story but makes the product overall a lot less layered.
William Cooper
I put almost in there because if I didn't someone would probably post Akira or some shit as an example as if that isn't an exception in pretty much every way.
>That’s too bad because I can say you’re 1000% guaranteed to never have voice acting, animation and music in a manga. People always bring this up and I can say I really don't care. The flow of panels is manga's equivalent of animation and I never really miss voice acting or music when reading manga.
There are manga with shit art but I'm saying compare the best looking manga with the best looking anime. Anime by its nature requires toning down the visuals because you have tons of frames in a single episode while manga is still drawings. The only place that can even come close is with movies but these days even movies have their visual issues.
>Also the same thing goes in reverse with the visuals. There’s stuff you’ll see in anime that manga could never do. I'm sure there is. But they don't influence me enough to watch anime more than read manga. But these aren't even the main reasons I prefer manga. I don't like the seasonal structure of anime. At all. I don't like adaptations only adapting half of a manga or making up their own ending. And most anime originals that I see these days don't catch my eye at all and make me want to watch them. I both read manga and watched anime growing up and manga has always been what I preferred. I can understand why someone that didn't might not like manga though. But I don't know if it was you or another user that said I was "pretending" to like manga. That's a completely retarded thing to think because a lot of arguments from people that watch anime a lot sound pretty stupid to me too and I can just as easily think someone is pretending to like anime.
Nolan Morris
I agree which is why you should read manga not watch anime adaptations for the most part, and why you should watch original anime and not read manga adaptations for the most part. That's pretty much what I've been trying to say.
Now you’re just calling names because you’re mad that anime is better and you’re basic bitch hipster ways are failing you. You don’t sound as smart as your first post anymore so you’re slipping up.
Chase Phillips
Well if you agree than you’re agreeing that anime is better than manga because that’s my point.
Easton Peterson
I like Act-Age
Lincoln Ross
Best looking anime destroys the best looking manga though. It’s not even close.
James Cruz
Tell me what anime you think looks best.
Lucas Flores
> You mean make fanfiction that has nothing to do with the writers vision? No, I mean > Stories are told by both the author and the reader. The pause button ruins immersion. If you need action to be animated... god, I don't even know man. So novels have worse action than movies? > So you’re basically bragging that you have adhd and you can skip the entire story and just watch the action? Why can't we have a single discussion without all this namecalling. The point is paneling and composition is important and authors spend a long time on perfecting it but because replicating it in animated form while keeping the same nuanced meanings behind each panel/page transition (e.g. flipping a page to the result of a punch) takes too much resources for anime studios to do consistently. > This is why anime originals are better. I think anime originals and manga originals both have the potential to be good. And just as another reminder the original post was about manga/anime vs books/movies.
Henry Martinez
Yea, VEG and the Inu Curry Madoka stuff unironically makes any manga panel look like donkey shit but that’s just my opinion.
Angel Fisher
Madoka Magica.
Grayson James
>The pause button ruins immersion.
You know what I think ruins the immersion? Still images with no color, music or voices to go along with them.
Joshua Price
I'm not mad, but I was a bit annoyed that all you guys were doing for a while was name-calling. I don't consider myself a hipster or caring smart but blogging aside, forget the fact that you're trying to win an argument, I just wanted to hear your opinions, like I said in the OP. Dunno if this is bait. I agree that anime can have better visuals than the manga. You also said the same thing goes in reverse, meaning manga can have better visuals than the anime. And I agree. I think it's going down the drain of just trying to generate powerlevel hype and teasing psychological themes but never delivering. Used to love it more. Only for select keyframes I'd say. Although if anime could consistently be adapted like Pokemon Sun and Moon I would reconsider my opinion. But I'd still read most manga first just as a personal preference because I like seeing the original first. As you can tell I think S&M looks amazing.
Gavin Garcia
You realize everybody you’re responding to is me right? You don’t need to split the posts up like that.
Jose Phillips
You know what I think ruins immersion? Characters talking at a snail's pace while also repeating things, anime throwing still images into something that should be animated, and bad CGI.
Nathaniel Williams
Your manga board would be dead though. Nobody wants that:
Brandon Sanchez
>VEG Looks very good. But you can't say that because an anime looks good it makes any manga panel look like shit. (And besides considering a single panel is like considering a single keyframe. We're talking about the size of an episode, for example, which isn't a negligible distinction.) Also, I thought that the beauty of VEG was very distracting. I don't think seeing her hands gleaming in every close-up helped, it kind of turned me off. Which is fine, I'm sure many others enjoyed it. But if I were to read the novel I probably wouldn't have been lost from that one directorial choice. Many of these small decisions add up. Do you see what I'm trying to say? That's why I tend to prefer the original, because it's less tainted with the style of the people who build on it. >Inu Curry Madoka Looks very good, I agree. It built a great atmosphere but I don't really see any added value besides that. It's kind of like if Togashi drew a bunch of traced *random* famous works of art in a chapter of HxH, it builds a great atmosphere but that's it. now if they weren't randomly picked that might be a different story ofc. You probably think reading books or oral tradition ruins immersion too lol.
Nicholas Rogers
>all characters in all anime talk slow
Now you’re just blowing your point out of proportion. Not even you believe that and on top of that you (a manga) fan are crying about still images? Really?
The funny thing is >You know what I think ruins the immersion? Still images with no color, music or voices to go along with them
This isn’t blowing anything out of proportion. This is factually true but what you said is obviously hugely blown out of proportion unless you talk 5x faster than normal humans.
Henry Ross
Reading books is very different than reading the equivalent of comic books in Japanese.
Matthew Russell
I legit didn't realize, fuck. You right I mean certain websites have quite active pages for manga. Yes yes yes yes yes. ty unexpected mangabro, again.
Try actually watching Madoka because saying the art didn’t add anything makes you sound ignorant. I don’t think you’d be able to even comprehend how much meaning the art, music holds in that series as compared to any other anime in existence.
Brayden Jackson
t. hasn’t watched Madoka
Nathan Butler
You're very good at arguing against weak-minded people. You take what they say and twist it and make it sound dumb so all the opponent can do is defend themselves. It reminds of me of THAT interview what with the "so you're saying this..." "no I never said that" ad infinitum. He never said "all" characters. You're the one blowing things out of proportion. And your fact is worthless without context. It's like saying "You know what ruins the immersion? The fact that manga is printed on paper."
>I don't really see any added value besides that. Did you watch the anime?
Luis Walker
I’m not making what you say sound dumb. I’m simplifying your paragraphs long posts and saying exactly what you’re trying to say without sugar coating and showing you how dumb you sound.
Evan Moore
I think you should stop posting these bait threads and kill yourself.
Lincoln Collins
>you (a manga) fan are crying about still images? Really? Anime should be animated. Manga by definition is still images. Throwing stills into an anime to avoid animating something is the definition of lazy and defeats the entire purpose of watching an anime. And the fact that manga is still images means that they're drawn and placed for a certain effect rather than in an anime where they just pan over a still image to save on budget.
The talking slow thing is mostly an issue with adaptations and goes back to the difference between having still images I can go through at my own pace rather than having the pacing dictated to me by the director. Shit that I'd gloss over quickly in the manga might be drawn out for over a minute in the anime or worse.
>This isn’t blowing anything out of proportion It is however basically a broken record at this point drawing attention to things that by definition are not in the medium and strikes as being petty and nitpicking. I could say that anime doesn't have chapter covers or panel flow but that'd be stupid because those are manga specific things that the medium of animation doesn't really do.
Cooper Parker
What you’re saying is actually dumb though. The very basic point you’re trying to make is dumb. You’re just not used to seeing your thoughts typed out in a straightforward way.
Christopher Jackson
Naw I watched it, although I didn't pause at every couple minutes to research which songs were which and investigate the clusterfuck backgrounds for not-that-deep messages. That sounds like bait so let me clarify, I only did one watch and I wasn't very into it so it's entirely possible I'm missing a lot. But from what I saw while participating in a *****t rewatch of the series, all of the analysis of the songs and imagery and stuff was pretty shallow. Here's some music analysis, the first I could find. There's a lot more. If you can find some better stuff feel free to post it. > Pulling no punches, this piece starts off with the strings playing at a near frantic pace as a grand choir backs them up. Every moment is filled with noise from all sides, a chaos erupting through the desperate straights that Homura finds herself in despite her focused determination. Darting desperately around attempting to find another foothold to continue the fight, the sense of panic in the music and the scene is near tangible. The threat reaches such intensity that it hits a limit, and while the pace keeps up the strings become more drawn out as if they've been pushed against a barrier and are now sliding around trying to find a weak point to break through. They fail, just like Homura's power and the consequences are severe. It doesn't seem very deep to me, I think you could say the same about Fairy Tail OSTs to be honest. Well maybe that's a bit too provocative of a statement, but you know what I mean.
Blake Sanders
You’re just going back to old arguments that you’ve already made. You can pause an anime at any moment if you want to take something in and it doesn’t “ruin the immersion” either. I’ve never paused an anime before to take a closer look at something and thought to myself “wow I’m really ruining this experience by pausing right now” user.
Nathaniel Bell
Yeah and I'm asking if you guys found it to have a lot of fucked up parts on a large scale. And whether you could compare it to masterpieces of literature (your favorites.) Yes, see > I'm just rephrasing what you're saying Sure, lol. How do you not realize you're literally putting words in my mouth and then pretending you won some internet contest because I have dumb words in my mouth? basado keep fighting the good fight
>You can pause an anime at any moment if you want to take something in and it doesn’t “ruin the immersion” either I keep saying anime is too slow and you're for some reason thinking I'm saying the opposite. I'm not saying all anime is too slow though. But this isn't an issue in manga because the pacing of a manga panel to panel is decided by me while reading it.
Jaxon Lee
The mind takes a couple minutes to much longer to refocus after a distraction. I believe that by pausing a few times it makes an episode lose a lot of it's impact.
Landon Hernandez
You saying you probably missed a lot is a huge understatement. You’re probably like 80% of people who watched Madoka. You watched it and didn’t understand 3% of what went into the show but because you simply completed it you think you’re an expert and that your opinion matters. What you copy and pasted about somebody’s thought about whatever song that was explains nothing but that persons emotions. The difference in Madoka is the songs themselves legitimately have meaning and are interactive with the series down to even simple ost songs that 99.5% of people will never catch after multiple rewatches.
Also it’s not going to seem deep to you at all because you didn’t watch it.
David Myers
We get it guy. You think you’re the flash. You’re just too fast for anime right?
Wyatt Jones
btw fellow mangabro (mb if that's cringe asf) what are some of your favorite manga that you think have really unique traits that can't be replicated in anime?
I think AoT and HxH are really good examples of this, although maybe the examples are too blatantly obvious. I'm sure more low-key stories like Uchuu Kyoudai also have a lot of manga "Easter Eggs" so to speak (but with a lot more value than just an easter egg).
I’m not putting words in your mouth. If you read what I said I’m just saying what you already said in a straightforward way. You think it sounds dumb because it is dumb when you hear it that way because your idea of manga being better than anime is just an opinion but logically anime is better. Ask me why? I’ll explain it to you.
Asher Long
Yes because anime is mostly created for children/an even lower age range than the corresponding manga. And the manga itself is also targeted to youth/children. > because you didn’t watch it. You mean because I didn't watch it seriously enough, or because you think I'm lying about watching it? I'm not lying. Please explain a couple of things you think I missed. Songs, imagery, anything. Not too many, any amount is fine. I promise I won't cherrypick them to shit on them, I just want to know what I'm missing out on. Because I hate missing out on stuff.
>an even lower age range They’re both meant for children. Thanks for the desperate arguments though.
Nicholas Fisher
It's more like I feel like it's a waste of time to watch a 24 minute anime episode when I could probably get further in the manga in the same amount of time. This obviously doesn't apply to anime originals but originals tend to have not as shit pacing (or maybe it's just that there's nothing to compare it to), though I've already expressed my issues with how anime is generally released. Just like manga to you is probably a waste of time it's the same for me with anime generally. We're set in our opinions of each medium and don't get the other side as much.
Dominic James
Stop replying to madoka shitters, they're fucking with you with their shallow 3deep5u bullshit
Thomas Sanders
Do you like Homura Akemi?
Carson Thomas
>It's more like I feel like it's a waste of time to watch a 24 minute anime episode when I could probably get further in the manga in the same amount of time.
You should have just said that in the first place. I didn’t realize you like to rush past as much context and context as possible to get ground covered instead of taking your time and having fun which is what I as an anime person think it should all be about.
Joseph Hill
I'll give you an example of you putting words in my mouth. Pay attention, and I'm not saying that patronizingly, I just think it's very easy for you to miss your own idiosyncrasies, and I acknowledge that it's the same for me. You said: > You know what I think ruins the immersion? Still images with no color, music or voices to go along with them. I assume the context is that you're saying you can't immerse yourself in manga properly due to the lack of color/music/voices or at least those facilitate your immersion better in anime. So I said, > You probably think reading books or oral tradition ruins immersion too lol. Because books don't have color/music/voices and oral tradition doesn't have color/music (usually). And yet many people can immerse themselves very deeply in these media. Then you said, > Reading books is very different than reading the equivalent of comic books in Japanese. Which implies that I said something to the extent of "B-but if you hate comic books, you hate books" or otherwise compared comics and novels. All I am saying is, if you can't immerse yourself because of a lack of color, music and voices, how can you immerse yourself in novels? And if you can immerse yourself in novels, how can you not immerse yourself in comics? Do the added images distract you? I'm honestly struggling to understand.
Jack Campbell
Yes, favorite and probably only good character of that show. I do like what they did with Madoka at the end though.
Austin Wilson
But that’s factual though.
Listen here. Anime can 100% copy a manga. It can show still images in black and white change panels. On the other hand a Manga cannot copy an anime. A manga won't voice actors, music and it won’t be animated. That’s all I’m saying. Anime is superior because it can do what a manga does but a manga cannot do what an anime does. Hopefully you understand better now.
Liam Nelson
Here's another example of your twisted arguments. I mean I use them too at times IRL if something's on the line but I think you should really consider toning it down in general, that could help your outlook on life. Maybe this advice is me being too presumptuous though. So this guy says > It's more like I feel like it's a waste of time to watch a 24 minute anime episode when I could probably get further in the manga in the same amount of time. And what you derive is > I didn’t realize you like to rush past as much context and context as possible It's like we're not even speaking the same language.
If you like to rewrite the original writer's meaning that much no wonder you prefer anime.
I don't rush. I just generally read faster than dialogue is read in anime. You seem to be offended by this notion though. If I do want to stop and read slower in some places if I feel like I might miss something then I will. Anime locks me into 24 minutes at whatever pace the director decides though. And if the director is on some shitty adaptation that adapts 1.5 chapters per episode that means I get less content in the same amount of time than if I had read the manga. Like I said, this apparently seems like a foreign concept to you. And that's not including filler where I get to sit through 24 minutes of fanfiction.
Gavin Morgan
Curious what other shows you think are 3deep5u and which shows are actually deep btw. (shows, manga whatever).
Juan Hughes
since it's just one guy arguing for anime maybe we should sign off, this is getting pretty Yea Forumsutistic
Getting further in the same amount of time is rushing past.
>If you like to rewrite the original writer's meaning that much no wonder you prefer anime. I don’t care about the original writer. I’m not to type to suck somebody’s dick like that. All I care about is the story itself and how the story turns out. I’m not going to automatically take points from something because it’s written by multiple people and I'm not giving +1000000 points to something because one guy who I don’t care about wrote it:
Dylan Parker
>it’s all of us against one person guys so we’re right >haha
Caleb Campbell
I’m not offended. I’m just telling you that you sound autistic right now. Like for example you’d be the kid who eats mash potatoes with his hands because you just eat so much faster than normal humans.
Jeremiah Kelly
>Getting further in the same amount of time is rushing past. If you read above a second grade level it's probably faster to read the manga though. Manga is still images on a page and so you can take that in however quickly you want. It isn't locked to a single pace. It is possible to rush past things in manga but things being animated takes time, as well as dialogue that needs to be said. Just because my reading is quicker than the 1.5 chapters per episode of some anime doesn't mean I'm rushing, it means that the people adapting the manga are going too slow or padding things out for one reason or another. Usually to not catch up to the manga. And you for some reason interpret this as some artistic trait when it's just something inherent in the moneymaking scheme that is anime adaptations.
Owen Rivera
>second grade level
Once again you’re heavily blowing it out of proportion. All that matters is having fun and I have more fun watching anime but if you wanted to talk about what’s factually better it’s anime because anime can copy manga but manga can’t copy anime.
Jackson Green
That’s true.
Camden Baker
>you sound autistic And yet you're the person that can't fathom that an anime director's interpretation of the source doesn't match the way I read it 100% of the time. Anime adaptations can adapt anywhere from .5 chapters to 6+ chapters per episode. Sometimes the pacing is too fast (though generally this results in content being cut rather than just speeding things up), sometimes it's too slow. This is something you're locked into with anime while in manga I can read it at whatever pace I want. I don't know how many times I've said this exact same thing but you'll probably come back saying you still don't get it.
>All that matters is having fun and I have more fun watching anime And I have more fun with manga. Glad we could establish that.
Jack Wood
>And I have more fun with manga. Glad we could establish that.
Good but you’re forgetting about this part. >but if you wanted to talk about what’s factually better it’s anime because anime can copy manga but manga can’t copy anime.
Anthony Nguyen
Never read manga from shounen magazines. They're rushed and very bad.
Thomas Morris
Literally any show or manga faggots like you prop up to have intellectual value. You find one shallow obscure reference that's shoehorned to look cool and think everyone is stupid for not knowing where it's from. It's no different from people that think they're smart because they understand every nihilistic joke from fucking Rick and Morty.
Christopher Edwards
Bro chill man. I realized a couple replies back this man is either some pro baiter laughing at us for replying or actually stubborn as fuck, either way our job is done here.
I never said I don’t get it. I’m saying you’re blowing your points out of proportion because you don’t understand how normal humans communicate.
Henry Garcia
I never thought about it like that.
Samuel Ramirez
Fpbp
Leo Walker
Evangelion had a manga that copied the anime, dipshit. And it was better.
Parker Williams
>all that matters is having fun >but also what I like is better
>you don’t understand how normal humans communicate. This is pretty fucking ironic considering most anime probably isn't how anyone would ever talk in real life. Go watch the first Lupin series and then watch Jojo part 5. You should be able to tell the massive difference in how the characters talk.
I’m only going to answer one part of your post because you can’t seem to comprehend my point.
>>all that matters is having fun >but also what I like is better
>but what I like is better Not what I said. I said >anime can copy manga but manga cannot copy anime
That’s what we in America like to call a fact. That’s factual. A factual fact.
Parker Clark
>have each page of the manga be a frame >color the manga >sell it with an audio CD There. Anime replicated. But this is stupid and so are you. I don't read manga for it to copy anime. I read manga because there's a lot of stuff I don't like about anime. Books also can't replicate movies but you'd probably get laughed off of Yea Forums for making that argument.
Julian Thomas
You’re twisting the point. anime can copy manga but manga cannot copy anime and that’s that. Also anime is just more enjoyable for me and most others.
Kayden Allen
I'm just going to say that judging a medium by its ability to copy another medium doesn't seem like it has anything to do with anything.
>Also anime is just more enjoyable for me and most others. And other people like manga more. This is exactly why I want a manga board (which me saying is what I think started this whole thing, or at least part of it), though I do think if there was one it would be annoyingly slow and have the same WSJ generals as Yea Forums does.
Jaxson Clark
I’m saying I enjoy anime more but factually anime offers more than manga goes in presentation.
Lucas Cooper
There's no more arguments happening so I'm not going to bother keeping this thread going when we seem to be the only two people left in the thread.